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CloakNNNdagger 04-21-2014 07:14 AM

Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
Smoke screen or valid is the question?

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Posted by Darin Gantt on April 21, 2014, 7:39 AM EDT

When the longer-then-ever pre-draft process began, the general assumption was that the Texans would draft a quarterback.

Then, as everyone began to realize what a generational talent Jadeveon Clowney was, the pendulum of conventional wisdom swung that way.

Turns out, neither may be the case in two and a half weeks when the draft finally starts with the Texans on the clock.

According to Peter King of TheMMQB.com, one “Friend of Rick Smith” (the Texans’ General Manager) said that Smith preferred Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack to Clowney, but his preference in quarterbacks was unclear.

While Clowney might be a better fit in a 4-3 defense than in a 3-4 such as Houston’s, that’s still a bold call.

In fact, it’s almost like the kind of thing that gets out there on purpose this time of year, as the Texans hope that someone calls a Friend of Rick Smith and says “Hey, if you don’t want that pick, we do.”

We only have 17 more days to wait to find out.
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disaacks3 04-21-2014 07:19 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2327945)
Smoke screen or valid is the question?

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If true, trade back should be on the table.

PapaL 04-21-2014 07:31 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
I put it under the "meh" category. Pre-draft talk to drum up trade value.

IDEXAN 04-21-2014 08:04 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
In fact, it’s almost like the kind of thing that gets out there on purpose this time of year, as the Texans hope that someone calls a Friend of Rick Smith and says “Hey, if you don’t want that pick, we do.”
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Well if so, then why not just wait for him to fall into your lap if the Texans aren't interested ?
Not that I buy these kind of stories, but the logic escapes if it's meant to be a strategy to induce a trade. Seems the desired approach would be for the Texans to express a strong preference for the most sought after player in the Draft if they are looking to flush out a trading partner.

Playoffs 04-21-2014 08:09 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Houston, at No. 1, isn’t set on Jadeveon Clowney. In fact, one FORS (Friend of Rick Smith) told me the Texans general manager likes Khalil Mack over Clowney, and we still don’t know which quarterback Houston would choose if it chooses one first overall. I still think the Texans would go with a more sure thing with the first overall pick than a quarterback—and that sure thing could also be tackle Greg Robinson. But imagine Mack, the outside linebacker from the University of Buffalo, being the first pick in a stacked draft. Wouldn’t that be something—a second straight Mid-American Conference player (Eric Fisher, Central Michigan, by Kansas City) as the top pick in the NFL draft?
Last week it was Rick wanted Teddy Bridgewater, O'Brien wanted Clowney, and McNair wanted Manziel.

This week it's Rick wants Mack, does not want QB, but might go Robinson.

Clear as mud..... 17 days.


ArlingtonTexan 04-21-2014 08:47 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by disaacks3 (Post 2327947)
If true, trade back should be on the table.

Trading is always "on the table' for the team with a pick, it is finding someone to sit down with said team at the table. in a draft with no sure fire number 1, but several rounds of solid depth, I would not be trading up to that position.

Texian 04-21-2014 08:51 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
An advertisement that Clowney is available to any team that wants him?

ArlingtonTexan 04-21-2014 09:02 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2327956)
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Last week it was Rick wanted Teddy Bridgewater, O'Brien wanted Clowney, and McNair wanted Manziel.

This week it's Rick wants Mack, does not want QB, but might go Robinson.

Clear as mud..... 17 days.


I would rather the Texans take whatever player they had the most conviction for than taking Clowney or QB because "the rest of the of the world"

htownfan32 04-21-2014 09:05 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
Considering most of my stuff gets done this week school wise, it's going to be a long wait till the draft.

Texian 04-21-2014 09:10 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2327945)
Smoke screen or valid is the question?

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There are people in the know that also agree. Enough to give this credibility and make it a valid argument

powda 04-21-2014 09:16 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
And the next leak will be Robinson and the next will be Watkins. Listen up NFL, we're targeting the player you want. If you want him your going to have to trade with us.

steelbtexan 04-21-2014 09:25 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
I would prefer Rick Smith not have anything to do with the draft or for that matter the Texans org. 2-14.

kingtexan 04-21-2014 09:44 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2327987)
I would prefer Rick Smith not have anything to do with the draft or for that matter the Texans org. 2-14.

I concur.

kingtexan 04-21-2014 09:45 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2327956)
Last week it was Rick wanted Teddy Bridgewater, O'Brien wanted Clowney, and McNair wanted Manziel.

This week it's Rick wants Mack, does not want QB, but might go Robinson.

Then just for ****s and giggles ... we draft Watkins.

htownfan32 04-21-2014 09:51 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by kingtexan (Post 2328000)
Then just for ****s and giggles ... we draft Watkins.

I'd be cool with that.

Playoffs 04-21-2014 10:34 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2327974)
I would rather the Texans take whatever player they had the most conviction for than taking Clowney or QB because "the rest of the of the world"

Pretty sure that's how they'll do it, no? I don't think the Texans will be drafting on a consensus of other people's opinions.

Question is, who makes the choice? If it's QB (or even offense) I think we can agree that's OB 's domain. But who's choosing if it's a defensive player? Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

As to the Mack attack, I wonder if there's a team who'd trade up to #1 for Mack? ... So they dangled this tidbit out there to give them a nudge to make an offer. No "secrets" make it to Peter King this time of year. Oops, I accidentally revealed our draft strategy to the biggest NFL writer in the country. Sorry, Rick.

Looking forward I expect to be reading about Teddy's gang affiliation, Blake's crack addiction, Manziel's broken arm, Clowney's broken legs, and Mack & Robinson as roommates in a psychiatric hospital last summer. :kitten:

Texian 04-21-2014 10:46 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2327987)
I would prefer Rick Smith not have anything to do with the draft or for that matter the Texans org. 2-14.

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Originally Posted by kingtexan (Post 2327998)
I concur.

Based on the reading of the interview McClain did with O'Leary and others, the one consistent piece of advice O'Brien received from multiple mentors is, "Make sure you're in charge." I highly suspect that this is the case, same as it was with Kubiak and Smith remains O'Brien and McNair's make it happen guy.

PapaL 04-21-2014 10:47 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2327987)
I would prefer Rick Smith not have anything to do with the draft or for that matter the Texans org. 2-14.

You should put that in your signature block...just so you can stop beating that dead horse. :deadhorse

ArlingtonTexan 04-21-2014 10:53 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2328021)
Pretty sure that's how they'll do it, no? I don't think the Texans will be drafting on a consensus of other people's opinions.

Question is, who makes the choice? If it's QB (or even offense) I think we can agree that's OB 's domain. But who's choosing if it's a defensive player? Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

As to the Mack attack, I wonder if there's a team who'd trade up to #1 for Mack? ... So they dangled this tidbit out there to give them a nudge to make an offer. No "secrets" make it to Peter King this time of year. Oops, I accidentally revealed our draft strategy to the biggest NFL writer in the country. Sorry, Rick.

Looking forward I expect to be reading about Teddy's gang affiliation, Blake's crack addiction, Manziel's broken arm, Clowney's broken legs, and Mack & Robinson as roommates in a psychiatric hospital last summer. :kitten:

We have actually swung the door too far the other way in terms of thinking about smokescreens. It is like a poker player who gets a reputation as a 'bluffer," when other players always read bluff, the best play is to tell the truth, since nobody is believing you anyway.

Playoffs 04-21-2014 10:59 AM

Re: Report: Texans G.M. prefers Khalil Mack to Jadeveon Clowney
 
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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2328028)
We have actually swung the door too far the other way in terms of thinking about smokescreens. It is like a poker player who gets a reputation as a 'bluffer," when other players always read bluff, the best play is to tell the truth, since nobody is believing you anyway.

I bet the "trade into 1-1" phone has not rung one time yet, with the draft pushed back. Other than the good-hair brothers already having a conditional trade in place, I don't think much will happen until the week of the draft. Playing chicken.


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