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mussop 04-07-2014 10:26 AM

McClain rumor
 
I'm no McClain fan but he had an interesting story to tell this morning. According to him a pro scout that has been around a long time swears he knows which QB the texans will draft. In fact he was so sure of it he wanted to bet McClain a steak dinner anywhere he wanted. McClain pushed him on it and the scout refused to say who the QB was. He did however say it wouldn't be a first overall pick QB. In fact it was a second round/tier QB.

The fact that he is refusing to name names kinda makes it more credible IMO. McClain pointed out to him that they still have private workouts scheduled and could change their minds. He didn't disagree but was adamant that they are set I a particular QB in the second round. If true my money is on Garoppolo (sp) or AJ McCarren.

_King_ 04-07-2014 10:43 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
I heard McClain's story, and I'm with him. I don't buy it.

PapaL 04-07-2014 10:45 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Clowney and Garoppolo

Stemp 04-07-2014 10:47 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
His can you be set on one specific 2nd rounder when you have no idea if that guy will get picked before your turn??

IDEXAN 04-07-2014 10:55 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Not that I think for a minute that McClain has a clue about the intentions of the Texans in this Draft, but I do hope this "rumor" might somehow turn out to be true because I think we can do better for ourselves using the 1.1 on a non-QB and getting our QB later either in this Draft or thru trading a draft pick for a
QB already on another teams roster.

djohn2oo8 04-07-2014 10:58 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
McClain not believing it means it will happen.

infantrycak 04-07-2014 10:59 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stemp (Post 2323335)
His can you be set on one specific 2nd rounder when you have no idea if that guy will get picked before your turn??

If you are targeting a guy expected to go significantly lower and interested only in that particular player rather than the position. It's not a guarantee if that is what you are asking.

thunderkyss 04-07-2014 11:00 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2323322)
If true my money is on Garoppolo (sp) or AJ McCarren.

Don't bet on McCarron. I am the anti-fan, whatever I want, they do the exact opposite. It took me four years to fake that I loved Kubiak & when I finally got it..... BAM.

I'm working on my man-love for Rick Smith next.

Also if something unexpected happens, like Bridgewater dropping to the 2-1, I'd bet they go with him.

Playoffs 04-07-2014 11:06 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Johnny McClain's new mock... you'll never guess:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=104644

Texn4life 04-07-2014 11:31 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
A steak dinner isn't exactly betting the farm. Plus the scout always has an out in case the QB gets picked ahead of the Texans so he can always say they would have drafted him.

Porky 04-07-2014 11:35 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Mettenberger or Garrapalo would be my guess IF (huge if) the scout is onto something. I like Jimmy but his hands are small. And Mettenberger is coming off an ACL. All QB's in this draft have one or more question marks.

I am not a huge fan of AJ. I wouldn't bite on him in the 2nd. Maybe in the 3rd or 4th. I think his future is shaky. Good backup/borderline starter type to me.

I still think they are taking Bortles at 1.1.

BigBull17 04-07-2014 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Porky (Post 2323358)
Mettenberger or Garrapalo would be my guess IF (huge if) the scout is onto something. I like Jimmy but his hands are small. And Mettenberger is coming off an ACL. All QB's in this draft have one or more question marks.

I am not a huge fan of AJ. I wouldn't bite on him in the 2nd. Maybe in the 3rd or 4th. I think his future is shaky. Good backup/borderline starter type to me.

I still think they are taking Bortles at 1.1.

i think its Clowney or trade down. You absolutely cannot take one of these qbs number 1. None of them are worth the pick. Id rather reach later in thee draft on a qb than reach with #1 overall.

infantrycak 04-07-2014 11:44 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Porky (Post 2323358)
I like Jimmy but his hands are small.

I still think they are taking Bortles at 1.1.

Garoppalo's hands are the same size as TB and 1/8" smaller than Bortles, i.e. no different.

HOU-TEX 04-07-2014 11:49 AM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Isn't Garappolo more of a 3rd round prospect? I like him a lot, but think 33 might be a bit early to pick him.

mussop 04-07-2014 12:24 PM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 2323363)
Isn't Garappolo more of a 3rd round prospect? I like him a lot, but think 33 might be a bit early to pick him.

I have seen him going in the first on a lot of mocks. Even if so better to reach for a Third round QB in the second than a mid rounder at first overall. Especially when there isn't a whole lot of separation from the two.

ArlingtonTexan 04-07-2014 12:35 PM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2323344)
If you are targeting a guy expected to go significantly lower and interested only in that particular player rather than the position. It's not a guarantee if that is what you are asking.

I think generally it is called a "reach."

infantrycak 04-07-2014 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2323385)
I think generally it is called a "reach."

Agreed. But for some reason it is acceptable to many who find reaching in the 1st unacceptable.

Mr teX 04-07-2014 12:55 PM

Re: McClain rumor
 
To be honest, everything BoB has said publicly about the qb's in this draft & our qb situation points to this. Every time someone asks him about 1 of the top 3, he always goes out of his way to mention a few of the other 2nd tier guys.

I honestly think he's looking past the 1st 3 guys unless 1 of them drops to around 25 or so.

I don't think Grapalo will be there. Someone's gonna reach & get him late in the 1st. My bet on the 2nd tier qb he's targeting is either Mettenberger or Savage. Mettenberger b/c there won't be any pressure there to put him in right away b/c of his late injury, but the potential is definitely there.

& prior to BoB mentioning him, I hadn't heard anything about a Tom Savage.....from anyone. Which tells me he's firmly entrenched as a 2nd round & below prospect that most likely will be there 2:1 when the texans come up.

thunderkyss 04-07-2014 01:15 PM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr teX (Post 2323393)
To be honest, everything BoB has said publicly about the qb's in this draft & our qb situation points to this. Every time someone asks him about 1 of the top 3, he always goes out of his way to mention a few of the other 2nd tier guys.

I still doubt they have a solid idea about how the draft will unfold. Whatever they think now, will probably change after this week, when they get a better look at the players we have.

I guarantee you Rick has been selling his team to OB from day one. "Wait 'till you see this guy, do this, or that." or "You're going to be really impressed with, blah, blah, blah..."

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
  1. Can I win with this guy?
    This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
  2. Can I win this year with this guy?
    I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.

From what I've heard about the draft I feel pretty good that at least two of the guys that answer yes to both questions will be there at the top of the second (which is basically a first round pick)...... it would be hard for me to draft a QB at the top of the draft just because "everybody" is talking about three of them.

TexansSeminole 04-07-2014 01:27 PM

Re: McClain rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2323399)
I still doubt they have a solid idea about how the draft will unfold. Whatever they think now, will probably change after this week, when they get a better look at the players we have.

I guarantee you Rick has been selling his team to OB from day one. "Wait 'till you see this guy, do this, or that." or "You're going to be really impressed with, blah, blah, blah..."

As far as the QB thing goes, if I'm OB, I'm asking myself two questions.
  1. Can I win with this guy?
    This goes back to the list of things OB said he is looking for in a QB. I think all but maybe four guys would fit.
  2. Can I win this year with this guy?
    I think five guys in this years draft answers yes here.

From what I've heard about the draft I feel pretty good that at least two of the guys that answer yes to both questions will be there at the top of the second (which is basically a first round pick)...... it would be hard for me to draft a QB at the top of the draft just because "everybody" is talking about three of them.

I don't agree, I think they finished their in-house evaluation of current players a month or more ago. Normally, the draft would be just around the corner, so I think the Texans are probably done with most if not all their evaluation. They are probably putting together some situational strategies in case specific things happen at this point.


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