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Lucky 03-22-2014 07:42 AM

All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread
 
Not a surprise. What I didn't know was the connection between Raider HC Dennis Allen and Schaub.

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Matt Schaub will not need to win a quarterback competition in Oakland to become the Raiders’ starting quarterback. He already is the Raiders’ starting quarterback.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said after Schaub arrived in a trade with the Texans that Schaub will open the season as the No. 1 quarterback.

We brought Matt Schaub in to be our starting quarterback,” Allen said. “We feel very confident that he is going to be able to come in and function in that role and be outstanding for us. Obviously, we love having competition within the team, but right now Matt Schaub is our starting quarterback.”

The Raiders also have Terrelle Pryor, Matt McGloin and Trent Edwards on the roster, and they could draft a quarterback like Teddy Bridgewater, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel or Derek Carr. But Allen, who was an assistant coach in Atlanta when the Falcons drafted Schaub in 2004, says Schaub is his guy.

“This is a guy that is a two-time Pro Bowl player. When you get an opportunity to add those type of players, that’s what we’re looking to do,” Allen said.
Allen knew Schaub from his days in Atlanta. He also had to be impressed with Schaub rallying the Texans to two 4th quarter FGs against the Raiders last year, only to lose by 5. That was one of the two games where Matt didn't throw an INT (the other vs the Rams). Of course, he only played a half in those contests.

thunderkyss 03-22-2014 07:52 AM

Re: Schaub named starter in Oakland
 
I've got to admit that I was wrong about the Raiders looking for a starter. I thought they would be content with Pryor & McGluv'n....

Perhaps I was also wrong about the Browns as they were also said to be interested in trading for him.

IDEXAN 03-22-2014 08:15 AM

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I have no idea what kind of a season Schaub is gonna have in Oakland, but he might fool a lot of Texans "fans" who think he's washed up in this league. Obviously there's quite a few NFL people (and not just the Raider's HC) who think Matts still got a future in this league. BTW, Schaub was a whole lot cheaper for the Raiders than Carson was.

Thorn 03-22-2014 08:16 AM

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I don't see him starting for long, but who knows? If Oakland doesn't have a good O-line they got themselves a very immobile QB who is gonna get killed.

Playoffs 03-22-2014 08:16 AM

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Yes this was the plan all along. After two 4-12 seasons -- hampered by salary cap -- Reggie needs to show some improvement now to keep his job, IMO.

I think it'll be Browns vs. Raiders for Sammy Watkins.

thunderkyss 03-22-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 2316436)
I don't see him starting for long, but who knows? If Oakland doesn't have a good O-line they got themselves a very immobile QB who is gonna get killed.

Matt usually does a pretty good job about getting the ball out & avoiding sacks. Not as good as Peyton, but better than most.

kingtexan 03-22-2014 10:56 AM

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Championship ...

StarStruck 03-22-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kingtexan (Post 2316482)
Championship ...

Oh dear, I never considered Oakland going to the Super Bowl any time soon until now. :)

CloakNNNdagger 03-22-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 2316436)
I don't see him starting for long, but who knows? If Oakland doesn't have a good O-line they got themselves a very immobile QB who is gonna get killed.

If something doesn't dramatically change this year, Schaub will only think he had a bad OL. Last year, ProFootballFocus ranked Raiders OL line at #29 as compared to Texans #16.:kitten:

Playoffs 03-22-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2316538)
If something doesn't dramatically change this year, Schaub will only think he had a bad OL. Last year, ProFootballFocus ranked Raiders OL line at #29 as compared to Texans #16.:kitten:

Revamped. They signed Penn, Saffold, Howard, and Boothe. One of those OTs will slide to G, with Watson watching/learning unless he surprises.

htownfan32 03-22-2014 04:25 PM

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What if (crackhead theory) Schaub leads Oakland to a championship?
I think I might cry if that happens.

thunderkyss 03-22-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2316541)
Revamped. They signed Penn, Saffold, Howard, and Boothe. One of those OTs will slide to G, with Watson watching/learning unless he surprises.

I thought they failed Saffold on a physical & St. Louis re-signed him.

CloakNNNdagger 03-22-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2316550)
I thought they failed Saffold on a physical & St. Louis re-signed him.

That's what I understand.

CloakNNNdagger 03-22-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2316541)
Revamped. They signed Penn, Saffold, Howard, and Boothe. One of those OTs will slide to G, with Watson watching/learning unless he surprises.

Losing Veldheer is a negative. Penn has durability but is far from anything special.......and he is not OT material, maybe guard. The Raiders continue to pee money down the drain with contracts such as what humdrum Howard got. And Boothe looked less than stellar with the Giants playing guard or center. Last but not least, wasn't Watson the one someone on the Raiders said he just doesn't look like he has it? Between calf and knee injuries and surgery, he virtually never saw the field........and if I remember, he's never played LT, but that was what they wanted of him. I've never really understood the Raiders of old. And now, the Raiders are getting rid of Al's players while replacing them just as quickly with more expensive but no more productive players.

I don't believe that there is a reason to be to excited about what OL the Raiders will be putting together to protect their QB(s) in 2014.:)

Blake 03-22-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2316573)

I don't believe that there is a reason to be to excited about what OL the Raiders will be putting together to protect their QB(s) in 2014.:)

Good thing that according to our TT mock draft they will be able to add Sammy Watkins, Morgan Moses, and Cyril Richardson.

CloakNNNdagger 03-22-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake (Post 2316578)
Good thing that according to our TT mock draft they will be able to add Sammy Watkins, Morgan Moses, and Cyril Richardson.

If they get Moses, at best, he'll be a guard. As far as Richardson, he's someone I'd hate to see without a T shirt.......overweight and underconditioned. He's not NFL LT material. Even if they try him at RT, I see possible bust written all over. As it appears now, their OL will be made up of a rotational mix of questionable OL talent with even more questionable talent.:thinking:

Playoffs 03-22-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2316550)
I thought they failed Saffold on a physical & St. Louis re-signed him.

Yep, my bad, did read the fine print.

Blake 03-22-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2316588)
If they get Moses, at best, he'll be a guard. As far as Richardson, he's someone I'd hate to see without a T shirt.......overweight and underconditioned. He's not NFL LT material. Even if they try him at RT, I see possible bust written all over. As it appears now, their OL will be made up of a rotational mix of questionable OL talent with even more questionable talent.:thinking:

Not sure that I agree with your assessment. I believe they are day 1 starter material. Moses at RT and Richardson at RG.

Trap_Star 03-22-2014 10:13 PM

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under fire GM Reggie McKenzie and HC Dennis Allen have hitched their wagon on Matt Schaub.

good luck with that.

ObsiWan 03-22-2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htownfan32 (Post 2316548)
What if (crackhead theory) Schaub leads Oakland to a championship?
I think I might cry if that happens.

I believe we'll have to put NitroFish in a padded room.
...with no internet access
:kitten:


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