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Doppelganger 03-13-2014 07:10 PM

Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
According to Ian Rappaport, Wilfork wants out of NE and wants to be released. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444176971191169024

If he is released, would he want to come to Htown and if so, would you want him here? He was part of Romeo's D in NE and while he did not play for him, knows Bill o' Brien. If this is a repost, I apologize.

Showtime100 03-13-2014 07:16 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
If Houston signed Wilfork I wouldn't have the slightest problem whatsoever. Not - at - all.

Dude would be expensive, though.

dc_txtech 03-13-2014 07:18 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2311793)
According to Ian Rappaport, Wilfork wants out of NE and wants to be released. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444176971191169024

If he is released, would he want to come to Htown and if so, would you want him here? He was part of Romeo's D in NE and while he did not play for him, knows Bill o' Brien. If this is a repost, I apologize.

He's coming off an Achilles injury, turns 33 this year, and wants a fat contract, let Denver sign him.

Thorn 03-13-2014 07:19 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
I've had my fill of signing older injured players.

Marshall 03-13-2014 07:19 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2311793)
According to Ian Rappaport, Wilfork wants out of NE and wants to be released. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444176971191169024

If he is released, would he want to come to Htown and if so, would you want him here? He was part of Romeo's D in NE and while he did not play for him, knows Bill o' Brien. If this is a repost, I apologize.

If he's turning down $8M (not including signing bonus cap hit) from NE, he'll be too expensive for Houston.

People still can't get used to the spending cap and the limitations it places on obtaining every good player in FA. They just want everybody.

infantrycak 03-13-2014 07:24 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall (Post 2311800)
If he's turning down $8M (not including signing bonus cap hit) from NE, he'll be too expensive for Houston.

People still can't get used to the spending cap and the limitations it places on obtaining every good player in FA. They just want everybody.

He isn't turning down anything. They have asked him to reduce his pay this year and he is refusing. He has asked for his release. Odds are he does not receive more than his base this season of $7.5 if he is released.

Doppelganger 03-13-2014 07:30 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2311803)
He isn't turning down anything. They have asked him to reduce his pay this year and he is refusing. He has asked for his release. Odds are he does not receive more than his base this season of $7.5 if he is released.

Right. We don't know what they offered him. My concern is health and age. But if he can play, wow. What a great addition to help play right now and help mentor a younger developing NT.

Marshall 03-13-2014 07:34 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2311803)
He isn't turning down anything. They have asked him to reduce his pay this year and he is refusing. He has asked for his release. Odds are he does not receive more than his base this season of $7.5 if he is released.

Base ($7.5M) plus 500K in non signing bonuses makes $8M. I suspect he'll get that or he wouldn't ask for his release, even if NE is asking him to take a cut. But say you're right. How much do you think he could get from Houston? Just remember that we have a lot of holes to fill with the cap space left.

Texecutioner 03-13-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
I love Wilfork. Would love to have him on this team, but not at the price he'll demand. I don't see us as a SB contender, so I don't see why we would pay him all of that money.

Playoffs 03-13-2014 07:49 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dc_txtech (Post 2311798)
He's coming off an Achilles injury, turns 33 this year, and wants a fat contract, let Denver sign him.

Or the Raiders.

They have money to burn and low expectations.

infantrycak 03-13-2014 07:53 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall (Post 2311806)
Base ($7.5M) plus 500K in non signing bonuses makes $8M. I suspect he'll get that or he wouldn't ask for his release, even if NE is asking him to take a cut. But say you're right. How much do you think he could get from Houston? Just remember that we have a lot of holes to fill with the cap space left.

I don't think the Texans will or should make a run at him, but I think the market price will be something right around the same as an avg. per year instead of a base and on a limited 2-3 year contract - which will be structured such that anything after year 2 is easy to dump.

Texn4life 03-13-2014 08:04 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Maybe he'll give us a discount so he can be close to Ted Johnson to kick his ass.

gtexan02 03-13-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Great player and even better character. Yes please

Craig. 03-13-2014 09:18 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02 (Post 2311823)
Great player and even better character. Yes please

Plus it would be easier for him to exact sweet revenge on Ted Johnson for calling his wife ugly.

Hervoyel 03-14-2014 01:07 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Didn't we just do something not unlike this?

No. Lets find the next Wilfork, not overpay the old one.

santo 03-14-2014 01:11 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hervoyel (Post 2312065)
Didn't we just do something not unlike this?

No. Lets find the next Wilfork, not overpay the old one.


Moulds, Green, Reed. Why not add Wilfork to the Retirement Hall of Fame list here in Houston?

:smiliepalm:

The1ApplePie 03-14-2014 01:36 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hervoyel (Post 2312065)
Didn't we just do something not unlike this?

No. Lets find the next Wilfork, not overpay the old one.

Raji would be ideal, just entering his prime. Probably not the cap space though.

Terrance Cody would be the cheap, poor-man's Wilfork. Maybe Cam Thomas

robroy72 03-14-2014 04:41 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The1ApplePie (Post 2312077)
Raji would be ideal, just entering his prime. Probably not the cap space though.

Terrance Cody would be the cheap, poor-man's Wilfork. Maybe Cam Thomas

Raji just signed back on with GB for 1 year.

CloakNNNdagger 03-14-2014 08:50 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dc_txtech (Post 2311798)
He's coming off an Achilles injury, turns 33 this year, and wants a fat contract, let Denver sign him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2311804)
Right. We don't know what they offered him. My concern is health and age. But if he can play, wow. What a great addition to help play right now and help mentor a younger developing NT.

I too have loved Wilfork, the player and the person. However, an Achilles in a locomotive size NT???? Terrible situation.

He suffered his injury pushing off..........without resistance against opposing O.

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/ar...650&h=433&q=85

Now he will be expected to continue pushing off against double teams. His performance WILL be compromised and the risk for re-reputure is ~5% (probably higher because of his size the position.......ala Philly's LT Jason Peters) and his risk for further compensatory injury is high.

Keep in mind that though Wilfork only missed 6 games in his 10 year career, he was intermittently throughout the seasons on the Patriot Injury Reports for a foot/ankle during EVERY year except for 2007 and 2008. And knowing Belichik, the foot/ankle listings were used ultra sparingly.

_King_ 03-14-2014 11:06 PM

Re: Vince Wilfork wants out of NE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2312311)
I too have loved Wilfork, the player and the person. However, an Achilles in a locomotive size NT???? Terrible situation.

He suffered his injury pushing off..........without resistance against opposing O.

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/ar...650&h=433&q=85

Now he will be expected to continue pushing off against double teams. His performance WILL be compromised and the risk for re-reputure is ~5% (probably higher because of his size the position.......ala Philly's LT Jason Peters) and his risk for further compensatory injury is high.

Keep in mind that though Wilfork only missed 6 games in his 10 year career, he was intermittently throughout the seasons on the Patriot Injury Reports for a foot/ankle during EVERY year except for 2007 and 2008. And knowing Belichik, the foot/ankle listings were used ultra sparingly.

Well that's good enough for me.

I'll pass on wilfork.


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