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CloakNNNdagger 03-04-2014 08:14 AM

New proposed nfl rules changes
 
The League will be again tinkering with the rules at their next meeting. Some potential changes.

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1. Taking chop blocks, peel-back blocks, roll blocks and downfield cut blocks out of the game

This has been long overdue. For years, the NFL has been making sure offensive players are safe and sound without worrying about the other side of the ball. Few things are more dangerous than an offensive lineman diving at the knees of a defensive lineman or a linebacker. It's time to change the thought process here.

This will also protect the heads of defensive players who are fixated on the ball-carrier. Under current rules, a offensive player can peel off his block and side-swipe a would-be tackler.

2. The "hands to the face" call, which would expand to include quick shots to the head for players on either side of the ball. This would eliminate strikes to the helmet as a tactic.

In this day and age, anything to protect a guy from getting a concussion has to be considered. There are plenty of people who scream about the softening of the game. Those people don't play in the NFL and should stop complaining. Let these guys enjoy their retirements.

This call would effectively keep players from going upside a player's helmet with their hands. While the head-slap has long been illegal, this would keep players from "punching" into the face mask. The rule is intended for receivers and corners, along with linemen.

3. Instant replay going to the college system or the NHL way

Look, replay is a great thing and works pretty well now, but could be better. The NHL has all their decisions made from Toronto, providing great consistency. In college, the replay official upstairs makes the call. Personally, I love the NHL way, very few calls are missed.

4. Playoff expansion, which would put another team from each conference into the postseason. Only the No. 1 seeds would get a bye. The other 12 teams would play on Wild-Card weekend.


Everybody says it would cheapen the product. That's garbage. Would anybody have complained if a 10-6 Arizona Cardinals team was in the playoffs last year? How about if the Pittsburgh Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger made it? Why not reward the team with the best record in the conference as the only team with a bye? Plus, it's more football. Frankly, you're un-American if you don't want more football.

5. Taunting and fighting penalties being enforced to maintain respect among players

Again, some will scream about this. Again, put a lid on it. These are grown men who can handle themselves, but who are also a role model to kids. They need to put their big-boy pants on and refrain from being obnoxious idiots to each other. Can't go wrong here.

There is no place in the game for some clown sacking the quarterback up or down by 30 points and then getting in the face of the opponent over it.

6. Eliminating the point-after attempt

This is where I starting going the other way. Why does this need to be taken out of the game? It has been part of football forever. Do people really complain about having to sit through the extra point? Sometimes things are over-analyzed and this is one of them. If it's not broken ...

There has been talk about changing this rule throughout the offseason with myriad ideas. The best one has been to make a touchdown seven points and if you want to go for eight, it's the same as a two-point conversion is now. Only catch? If you miss, you lose a point.

7. Low hits on defenseless players, especially receivers

Now, I will call this soft. I understand you want to protect knees and that is admirable, but you can't protect high and low. The defenders have to be able to target somewhere on the body, and when a 250-pound target is moving at 4.4 speed, it's ridiculous to ask them to only hit from the shoulders to the belt. Sometimes a smaller player has to cut a guy down. The NFL needs to make sure defense still matters and gives these guys a somewhat fair shake.

8. Protecting read-option quarterbacks in the pocket

Quarterbacks are already treated like they are made out of glass. If a quarterback wants to run the option, that's fine. However, a defender should be able to pop him like a paper bag if he does so. Again, this speaks to fairness. Stop protecting all the quarterbacks constantly. If they are threatening to be a runner, cream them.

Currently, a quarterback can be hit if he is in the process of the read-option within the pocket. Please, leave the rule alone.
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CloakNNNdagger 03-04-2014 08:18 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
Point After may not be eliminated......just distance-adjusted.


NFL might experiment with making extra-point attempts longer

By Judy Battista
NFL Media reporter
Published: March 3, 2014 at 03:40 p.m.
Updated: March 4, 2014 at 08:53 a.m.

The NFL Competition Committee has discussed experimenting this preseason with a longer -- much longer -- extra-point try. According to one member, the committee's meetings this weekend included preliminary talks about placing the ball at the 25-yard line for the extra-point kick -- which would make it a 43-yard attempt -- rather than the 2-yard line, where it is currently placed.

Last season, kickers missed just five of 1,267 extra-point attempts, a conversion rate of 99.6 percent -- so good that Commissioner Roger Goodell recently suggested the demise of the extra point could be imminent, because it is almost automatic, and thus not exciting enough. A longer extra-point try certainly would make things more interesting and require significantly more strategizing. The conversion rate of field goals between 40 and 49 yards last season was 83 percent. The last time the extra-point conversation rate regularly fell below 90 percent was in the 1930s and early 1940s. That surely would give coaches something to ponder when weighing whether to kick for one point or try for two, with the success rate for two-point conversion attempts typically around 50 percent.

"There is no consensus yet," said the committee member. "We could experiment in preseason, but we are not there yet."

No matter. It seems likely that the extra point as it is currently tallied eventually will be the latest victim of the kickers' own success. It will follow in the footsteps of sudden-death overtime, which was altered first for the 2010 playoffs and then for the regular season in 2012 after years of deliberation, sparked in large part by the kickers' increasing accuracy. Owners feared a Super Bowl might someday be decided by an overtime coin flip, with one team booting the winning field goal while the opposing squad never had a chance to touch the ball.

The NFL, of course, usually moves deliberately before enacting significant rules changes. In the meantime, kickers -- through a combination of specialization, better field conditions, the now-omnipresent kicking gurus and camps and rules changes -- are only getting better. Kickers made a higher percentage of field-goal (86.5 percent) and extra-point attempts (99.6 percent) last season than they ever had before. Perhaps even more striking is how many long field-goal attempts are being made. In 2013, 67.13 percent of all field-goal attempts of at least 50 yards were good. While the numbers fluctuate from year to year, that is a sharp rise even from 2012, when just 60.92 from long distance were good, and it is dramatically up from just 10 years ago, when kickers made just 48.38 percent from 50 yards or more. THE REST OF THE STORY

infantrycak 03-04-2014 08:24 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
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8. Protecting read-option quarterbacks in the pocket

Quarterbacks are already treated like they are made out of glass. If a quarterback wants to run the option, that's fine. However, a defender should be able to pop him like a paper bag if he does so. Again, this speaks to fairness. Stop protecting all the quarterbacks constantly. If they are threatening to be a runner, cream them.

Currently, a quarterback can be hit if he is in the process of the read-option within the pocket. Please, leave the rule alone.
I hate this one generally. If you are going to act like you have the ball, you get hit like you have the ball. But an additional reason is because it will become a playoff differential on how the game is played like PI is now. Make game changing discretionary ticky tack calls during the season to "enforce the rule" and then during the playoffs "let them play."

_King_ 03-04-2014 08:27 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
Whatever to the rules.

It'll either still be an interesting game or it won't. I love football. It's been a huge part of my life, but I don't mind not watching if it no longer interest me on a professional level.

NCTexan 03-04-2014 09:15 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
The one I am most excited about is the Instant Replay rule. I think it'll make the game quicker, more consistent, and better overall.

Troy Chapman 03-04-2014 09:23 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
I like the adjustment to the extra point attempt back to the 25 yard line.

bah007 03-04-2014 09:40 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
Generally agree with all of those proposals, save a few.

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1. Taking chop blocks, peel-back blocks, roll blocks and downfield cut blocks out of the game
Love this. Should have happened years ago. It's been blatantly obvious up to this point that the league only cares about the safety of ball carriers (QB, RB, WR). It's about time this happened. If we're protecting players let's protect all of them, not just the ones you put on your video game covers.

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4. Playoff expansion, which would put another team from each conference into the postseason. Only the No. 1 seeds would get a bye. The other 12 teams would play on Wild-Card weekend.
I don't like this. Seems totally unnecessary to me.

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7. Low hits on defenseless players, especially receivers
Stupid. Just put flags on them then.

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8. Protecting read-option quarterbacks in the pocket
Same as above. If you're going to pretend to have the ball then you can expect to get hit.

Dutchrudder 03-04-2014 09:44 AM

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4. Playoff expansion, which would put another team from each conference into the postseason. Only the No. 1 seeds would get a bye. The other 12 teams would play on Wild-Card weekend.
The only reason why I think this could be good for the NFL (besides revenue) is that it would make the last couple games important for teams that are fighting for the #1 and #2 seeds.

Speedy 03-04-2014 11:41 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
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6. Eliminating the point-after attempt
Make the extra point be a drop kick.

And if it's really about wanting the play to be more exciting, then allow the defense to score 2 if it's blocked, picked off and returned.

Not really in favor of the 2nd part as I don't see why a defense should get an opportunity to be rewarded for giving up a TD.

Playoffs 03-04-2014 12:13 PM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
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1. Taking chop blocks, peel-back blocks, roll blocks and downfield cut blocks out of the game

This has been long overdue. For years, the NFL has been making sure offensive players are safe and sound without worrying about the other side of the ball. Few things are more dangerous than an offensive lineman diving at the knees of a defensive lineman or a linebacker. It's time to change the thought process here.

This will also protect the heads of defensive players who are fixated on the ball-carrier. Under current rules, a offensive player can peel off his block and side-swipe a would-be tackler.
About time!

I've been against these ever since we got rid of Kubiak and his scheme. :truck:

Double Barrel 03-04-2014 12:16 PM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
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4. Playoff expansion, which would put another team from each conference into the postseason. Only the No. 1 seeds would get a bye. The other 12 teams would play on Wild-Card weekend.
I'm not going to lie, I like it. The wildcard weekend is when the end of the season realization hits, mainly that Sunday night. Give us a couple of extra playoff games that weekend. It is the part of the season I live for as a football fan.

And like Dutch mentioned, it makes the top seeds continue to play hard in weeks 16/17 instead of resting players. They have a reason to win if it is for the only bye.

ChampionTexan 03-04-2014 01:01 PM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2307526)
I'm not going to lie, I like it. The wildcard weekend is when the end of the season realization hits, mainly that Sunday night. Give us a couple of extra playoff games that weekend. It is the part of the season I live for as a football fan.

And like Dutch mentioned, it makes the top seeds continue to play hard in weeks 16/17 instead of resting players. They have a reason to win if it is for the only bye.

Agreed - a playoff weekend that has two Saturday games, two Sunday games, and either two Monday night games or a Friday night (no HS football to worry about) and a Monday night game would be fantastic as far as I'm concerned. Additionally, other than any years where the Texans (or Chiefs) end up as the #2 seed, I like the idea that they're making the top seed even more valuable than it already is. I don't think I'd ever want them to make it a 16 team playoff, but as long as less than half of the teams get in, I like the idea.

CloakNNNdagger 03-04-2014 01:13 PM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
If they move the extra point kick back to the 25 yd line, there will be plenty of 2-point attempts.

I feel that it would make it more of an exciting chess strategy move if the rules would say, "If a team chooses to avoid the extra point kick, and opts for the 2-point attempt.........and the 2-point attempt fails, the kicking team will LOSE 1 point."

CloakNNNdagger 03-07-2014 07:21 PM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
From PFT:

Interesting proposal from Gibbs.

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Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs is all for eliminating the extra point. But why stop there?

Gibbs told Colin Cowherd on ESPN Radio that he wouldn’t mind getting rid of field goals in addition to extra points. Why should 11 football players have to march the ball down the field only to put the team’s fate on the foot of a puny kicker? Gibbs thinks that if you want to give out partial points to a drive that gets stopped short of the end zone, award points for a team that gets inside the 10-yard line or the 5-yard line but fails to score.

“Even field goals, you know what I mean? I was one who wanted to let the team decide,” Gibbs said. “You get to the 10 you get one point, you get to the 5 you get two. I’m for anything like that where the team — that’s 11 guys — help determine the outcome of the game. Not one person kicking something.”

Gibbs is an old-school coach whose career started back in the days when men were men and kickers were expected to play another position, not just specialize. So it’s not surprising that when Gibbs thinks of a team of 11 guys determining the outcome of a game, he’s not thinking of one of those guys being a kicker.

But eliminating field goals isn’t even up for discussion in the NFL. Anyone who wants to de-emphasize kicking would be wise to keep the focus on extra points.

PapaL 03-07-2014 11:41 PM

Like the NHL style replay.

Also, if a RB can stiff arm a defender in the face, the defender should be able to do the same. Make it fair or eliminate it. Stiff arm would still be allowed, just not to the helmet.

Playoffs 03-08-2014 09:32 AM

Re: New proposed nfl rules changes
 
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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2309073)
From PFT:

Interesting proposal from Gibbs.

Funny. Coaches hate kickers. :lol:


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