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beerlover 02-17-2014 01:12 AM

Pat Kirwan Mock Draft
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/m...ert/pat-kirwan

Old school, well respected in draft circles, not his first circus, ha beat you to it Playoffs :dancer:

Anyway he has O'Brian going with Bortles
Rams w/new OL Coach Bruce Matthews taking somebody he knows, Jake Matthews
Jacksonville getting Johnny Football
Browns hoping for Bridge over troubled waters
da Raiders take a Clown - y
Falcons probably the top prospect in draft Greg Robinson, "I just talked to a former NFL line coach that worked with Robinson for five weeks and feels he has a chance to be a great player. Some believe he passes Matthews before the draft".
Tampa gets a Mack truck
Vikings Barr
Bills take 3rd OT in top 10, Lewan
Detroit goes with same WR BL did in Watkins

there's your top 10 from Mr. Kirwan. enjoy :barman:

Corrosion 02-17-2014 10:05 AM

Re: Pat Kirwan Mock Draft
 
Kirwan's comment from the link on Bortles -

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A big, strong-armed player
Bortles probably has the weakest arm among the top three .... He really struggles with anything over ~15 yards if he cant set his feet and often underthrows those longer routes when he is able to. He really has to load up to make those throws.

beerlover 02-17-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2300355)
Kirwan's comment from the link on Bortles -



Bortles probably has the weakest arm among the top three .... He really struggles with anything over ~15 yards if he cant set his feet and often underthrows those longer routes when he is able to. He really has to load up to make those throws.

I think comparisons between Blake & Ben are unfounded other than large frame, Ben was amazing pass throwing machine coming out of Miami Ohio, his bowl game was one of the most impressive QB performances I've ever seen. Deep ball after deep ball with pinpoint accuracy, more on par with Stafford when he came out of Georgia, then went #1 overall. Just don't see same thing with Bortles but to each his own :)

Playoffs 02-17-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2300419)
I think comparisons between Blake & Ben are unfounded other than large frame, Ben was amazing pass throwing machine coming out of Miami Ohio, his bowl game was one of the most impressive QB performances I've ever seen. Deep ball after deep ball with pinpoint accuracy, more on par with Stafford when he came out of Georgia, then went #1 overall. Just don't see same thing with Bortles but to each his own :)

Agree. Hate it when writers just mail it in instead of doing some groundwork. Rip off someone's work instead of just throwing commonly joined phraseology out there for filler.

Texian 02-17-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2300419)
I think comparisons between Blake & Ben are unfounded other than large frame, Ben was amazing pass throwing machine coming out of Miami Ohio, his bowl game was one of the most impressive QB performances I've ever seen. Deep ball after deep ball with pinpoint accuracy, more on par with Stafford when he came out of Georgia, then went #1 overall. Just don't see same thing with Bortles but to each his own :)

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2300453)
Agree. Hate it when writers just mail it in instead of doing some groundwork. Rip off someone's work instead of just throwing commonly joined phraseology out there for filler.

Nothing says drafting Blake Bortles as much as signing Christian Hackenberg. (aka a pattern of behavior)

Number19 02-17-2014 08:22 PM

Re: Pat Kirwan Mock Draft
 
First mock I've seen where Kyle Van Noy has moved into the 1st at 1-25. I'm hoping he'll be available at 2-33.

Wolf6151 02-17-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Number19 (Post 2300645)
First mock I've seen where Kyle Van Noy has moved into the 1st at 1-25. I'm hoping he'll be available at 2-33.

I agree, hoping he's available at #33. Van Noy would be great at SOLB.

beerlover 02-17-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2300673)
I agree, hoping he's available at #33. Van Noy would be great at SOLB.

1. Greg Robinson
2. Van Noy
3. Zach Mettenberger

steelbtexan 02-17-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2300716)
1. Greg Robinson
2. Van Noy
3. Zach Mettenberger

Sign the Miami NT Soliai (SP) and I really like this draft.

Wolf6151 02-18-2014 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2300716)
1. Greg Robinson
2. Van Noy
3. Zach Mettenberger

NO, try this instead:

1. Teddy Bridgewater-QB
2. Kyle Van Noy-OLB
3. JaWaun James-OT

No need for a RT at #1 overall. How old is Soliai and does he still have enough in the tank to play at a high level at NT? Never mind just looked it up, Soliai is 30 yoa.. Still wonder if he has enough left in the tank to play at a high level.

beerlover 02-18-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2300744)
NO, try this instead:

1. Teddy Bridgewater-QB
2. Kyle Van Noy-OLB
3. JaWaun James-OT

No need for a RT at #1 overall. How old is Soliai and does he still have enough in the tank to play at a high level at NT? Never mind just looked it up, Soliai is 30 yoa.. Still wonder if he has enough left in the tank to play at a high level.

this could work but you along with many others dispel taking Robinson strictly based off projecting him as RT only. This is essential now but in the future it gives Texans flexibility, depth & much improved talent base. Brown has played through injury all six of his seasons, when he has done so or sat out the drop-off has been noticeable. Break in Robinson then when Brown gets knicked, cause you know he will, move Robinson over to LT. I feel history will write itself & it will be Brown filling RT duties, where he would be better than JaWaun James. So in essence its a huge upgrade OVERALL for the Texans Offensive Line.. If Brown goes out without replacement or JaWann struggles so too will Bridgewater :overreact:

WolverineFan 02-18-2014 11:40 AM

Re: Pat Kirwan Mock Draft
 
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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2300419)
I think comparisons between Blake & Ben are unfounded other than large frame, Ben was amazing pass throwing machine coming out of Miami Ohio, his bowl game was one of the most impressive QB performances I've ever seen. Deep ball after deep ball with pinpoint accuracy, more on par with Stafford when he came out of Georgia, then went #1 overall. Just don't see same thing with Bortles but to each his own :)

I agree. I continue to see people compare him to Ben and I don't get it. He really reminds me of Locker.


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