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IDEXAN 01-23-2014 07:55 AM

They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Quote:

erry Smith made football history in the 1970s when, as a player for the Washington Redskins, he caught more touchdowns than any other tight end in NFL history. But Smith is probably better known for being a closeted homosexual and succumbing to AIDS in 1986 at only 43 years old.

Tonight on the NFL Network docu-series A Football Life, the struggle and legacy of this two-time Pro Bowler comes into focus. A host of notable figures are interviewed, including former Redskins Sonny Jurgensen, Bobby Mitchell, Brig Owens, Larry Brown Billy Kilmer and Dave Kopay, who had a sexual encounter with Smith in the early 1970s.
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Noted LGBT advocate David Mixner, a friend of Smith’s who will participate in a post-show program on NFL Network says the closeted athlete had a “horrendous existence” and lived in constant fear of being outed. “He was really alone and terrified that he was gonna lose everything.”

The producers of A Football Life believe that, despite his impressive record, Smith’s sexual orientation has kept him out of consideration for the NFL Hall of Fame. Hopefully this will help change that.
http://www.newnownext.com/gay-nfl-le...-life/01/2014/
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I dunno, but I'm betting Jim Rome and the rest of the left-wing LA sports media crowd make it their personal crusade to have this guy posthumously inducted into the NFL HOF.

infantrycak 01-23-2014 08:10 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
The personal crusade involved here is yours.

IDEXAN 01-23-2014 08:56 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
That's all you've got this morning, that's downright civil for you Infantrycak. C'mon now, you are so much more entertaining when you are insulting.

infantrycak 01-23-2014 09:10 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2289765)
That's all you've got this morning, that's downright civil for you Infantrycak. C'mon now, you are so much more entertaining when you are insulting.

Plankton is bemused by your ability to both breathe and post with a single brain cell.

Better?

steelbtexan 01-23-2014 10:05 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2289753)
The personal crusade involved here is yours.

Really,

Jerry Smith doesn't have the numbers to be a HOF.

To suggest that he is deserving of the HOF reeks of the PC crowd at work.

Jerry Smith was a very good/All pro type TE. Not a HOF.

I find it ironic that Smith played the TIGHT END position.

IDEXAN 01-23-2014 10:30 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2289772)
Plankton is bemused by your ability to both breathe and post with a single brain cell.

Better?

Aright ! Aright ! There's the ole Infantrycak that we know and love !

Hookem Horns 01-23-2014 11:31 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2289792)
Really,

Jerry Smith doesn't have the numbers to be a HOF.

To suggest that he is deserving of the HOF reeks of the PC crowd at work.

Jerry Smith was a very good/All pro type TE. Not a HOF.

I find it ironic that Smith played the TIGHT END position.

Really? I watched that documentary last night and they showed that several HOF tight ends have inferior numbers to his.

As a matter of fact he held the touchdown record for tight ends for 25 years or so until it was finally broken by Shannon Sharpe.

Impressive because they were playing fewer games during Smith's era and offenses were more run oriented back then. Another thing to consider is he had Billy Kilmer, Sharpe had Elway.

_King_ 01-23-2014 11:38 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
I don't get the title of the thread. What do you mean "finally"?

Double Barrel 01-23-2014 11:58 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2289772)
Plankton is bemused by your ability to both breathe and post with a single brain cell.

Better?

bwahahahahahah!! That's sig-worthy right there! :lol:

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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns (Post 2289822)
Really? I watched that documentary last night and they showed that several HOF tight ends have inferior numbers to his.

As a matter of fact he held the touchdown record for tight ends for 25 years or so until it was finally broken by Shannon Sharpe.

Impressive because they were playing fewer games during Smith's era and offenses were more run oriented back then. Another thing to consider is he had Billy Kilmer, Sharpe had Elway.

Hey now, isn't it forum policy (or is that tradition?) to not let cold, hard facts get in the way of a good moral crusade?

OJ Simpson can decapitate people and not a problem to be in the HoF.

But man, if someone happens to love someone of the same sex, ERMAHGERD!!!!

infantrycak 01-23-2014 11:59 AM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns (Post 2289822)
Really? I watched that documentary last night and they showed that several HOF tight ends have inferior numbers to his.

As a matter of fact he held the touchdown record for tight ends for 25 years or so until it was finally broken by Shannon Sharpe.

Impressive because they were playing fewer games during Smith's era and offenses were more run oriented back then. Another thing to consider is he had Billy Kilmer, Sharpe had Elway.

Yeah, check out the HoF TEs who largely overlapped with him:

Mike Ditka - 5812 yds, 43 TDs.
John Mackey - 5236 yds, 38 TDs.
Charlie Sanders - 4817 yds, 31 TDs.
Jackie Smith - 7918 yds, 40 TDs.

Jerry Smith - 5496 yds, 60 TDs.

Pretty hard to argue his numbers were inferior.

By the way, that era makes up half the TEs in the HoF.

kingtexan 01-24-2014 02:16 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Guy gets his own A Football Life ... just because he is gay.

:vincepalm:

Wolf 01-24-2014 04:28 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Wish they would do a story on Dr Doom and Why he isn't in the hall

Marshall 01-24-2014 04:37 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2289750)
http://www.newnownext.com/gay-nfl-le...-life/01/2014/
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I dunno, but I'm betting Jim Rome and the rest of the left-wing LA sports media crowd make it their personal crusade to have this guy posthumously inducted into the NFL HOF.

...and make every team retire his jersey too... Then have every player wear it for a game so nobody knows who is playing...

Double Barrel 01-24-2014 05:24 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by kingtexan (Post 2290400)
Guy gets his own A Football Life ... just because he is gay.

:vincepalm:

Tim Tebow got his own A Football Life, too. For what??? :um:

infantrycak 01-24-2014 05:28 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2290506)
Tim Tebow got his own A Football Life, too. For what??? :um:

You've answered this one for people a million times - entertainment.

Usual is boring. Unusual gets noticed.

Honoring Earl 34 01-24-2014 05:30 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2290506)
Tim Tebow got his own A Football Life, too. For what??? :um:

Jury is still out cause he hasn't had sex .

Wait ..... if he didn't do the deed with Lucy Pinder he's gay or dead . :peek:

Double Barrel 01-24-2014 06:02 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2290513)
You've answered this one for people a million times - entertainment.

Usual is boring. Unusual gets noticed.

Exactly. People seem to forget the point of entertainment is to be entertained.

Do some folks have a little red button for immediate butthurt? See subject, PUSH BUTTON. Lather, rinse, repeat.

It's like the remote control does not exist in their lives and they only get one channel on the tv.

Simple concept, y'know? Don't like something on tv, change the channel. Turn it off.

But the Butthurt must be heard!! RAGE RAGE BUTTHURT RAGE RAGE!!!

Amazing that grown men could be so friggin' sensitive.

Texecutioner 01-24-2014 06:08 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2289792)
Really,

Jerry Smith doesn't have the numbers to be a HOF.

To suggest that he is deserving of the HOF reeks of the PC crowd at work.

Jerry Smith was a very good/All pro type TE. Not a HOF.

I find it ironic that Smith played the TIGHT END position.

I don't know a whole lot about this guy, but based on the numbers presented in this thread, I'd have to disagree with you. You add that to the fact that he played in a run oriented era with a QB that wasn't all that great, well I think there is a very strong case for this guy. I'm basing this mainly off of the information presented in this thread though.

bhsman 01-24-2014 06:55 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
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Originally Posted by kingtexan (Post 2290400)
Guy gets his own A Football Life ... just because he is gay.

:vincepalm:

Well, it sounds like he was very good at his job and he unfortunately died young due to AIDS (did he die around the same time as Freddy Mercury? Honest question here), so there's a compelling bit there. Being gay in the NFL back then (especially compared to now, though there are still quite a lot of homophobic players) provides another angle that they could talk about, plus just a chance to talk about the Redskins, who are a large fanbase.

There are a lot of reasons that they decided to do A Football Life about him, not merely that he was gay.

kingtexan 01-25-2014 01:25 PM

Re: They finally found a Gay NFL guy (but dead for over 25 years)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2290506)
Tim Tebow got his own A Football Life, too. For what??? :um:

He won a Heisman and a two national championships. That isn't bad ...


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