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Seegara 01-20-2014 05:56 PM

New coaching regime
 
How do you think our new head coach will turn out?

Corrosion 01-20-2014 06:10 PM

Re: New coaching regime
 
I find this question hard to answer right now with so many questions to answer as far as the roster goes.

Who the QB is will make a bigger difference in the fortunes of this team than anything else ..... Who's the QB ?!? :truck:

McNair seems to think its an instant fix with a couple players , I just don't see a QB coming in and being the salvation of this franchise in year one.

kingtexan 01-20-2014 06:49 PM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Playoffs ...

_King_ 01-20-2014 06:49 PM

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I don't know enough about obrien to guess.

One thing I will say is that I don't think the talent here is terrible. I think our previous coaches did a terrible job of using players to their strengths/limiting their weaknesses. It's like they tried to fit round pegs in square holes all over the place. No adjustments.

If OB does like I hope/have a hunch he'll do I think we'll be really good really fast.

Some of our bad players can actually be used if they are used correctly...IMO.

TheMatrix31 01-20-2014 07:23 PM

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I don't think he'll be amazing off the bat, probably be the same as everyone else for a while. But he doesn't have to be amazing. He just has to get the team to win those stupid games we lost last year. How many one-possession games did we lose, like 7? Shore that **** up and we'll be fine.

Playoffs 01-20-2014 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtexan (Post 2288486)
Playoffs ...

Me?

Uhhhh, errrr, I think they're doing a bang up job so far. :truck:


I need to change my username...

acal21 01-20-2014 07:37 PM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2288470)
I find this question hard to answer right now with so many questions to answer as far as the roster goes.

Who the QB is will make a bigger difference in the fortunes of this team than anything else ..... Who's the QB ?!? :truck:

McNair seems to think its an instant fix with a couple players , I just don't see a QB coming in and being the salvation of this franchise in year one.


The QB is gonna be Schaub or Keenum, I honestly blame Kubiak for how bad they were

I just can't get over the thought of Clowney and JJ playing side by side

You never know maybe we get ourselves a QB in the 2nd round and he ends up being the guy sooner than anticipated

Big Lou 01-20-2014 07:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2288517)
Me?

Uhhhh, errrr, I think they're doing a bang up job so far. :truck:


I need to change my username...

Haven't lost a game yet!!!!

2slik4u 01-20-2014 08:28 PM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Playoffs.

BigBull 01-20-2014 10:24 PM

New coaching regime
 
I like what I've seen from OB thus far, but it's still to early to know how he will turn out. I for one can't wait to see how the players respond to him during training camp and the preseason.


Sent from the future...

JB 01-20-2014 10:40 PM

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He'll be better than this off season is going to be :kitten:

JCTexan 01-20-2014 10:42 PM

Re: New coaching regime
 
****, it's January: optimism is all I've got. O'Brien will right the ship, the Texans will win the most games in franchise history (13), Luck will fall flat on his face next year and miss the playoffs. And the main thing, the Texans will win the Super Bowl... :koolaid:

Honestly, free agency hasn't happened, the draft hasn't happened and I don't even know who the hell is going to be the QB of this team next year. What else am I going to say? :cutthroat:

beerlover 01-20-2014 10:59 PM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Call of duty whatever you want I'm all in, just long as they get rid of Rick Smith.

revan 01-21-2014 01:29 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2288595)
Call of duty whatever you want I'm all in, just long as they get rid of Rick Smith.

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Marshall 01-21-2014 05:13 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
None fit. I expect immediate success followed by slow decline. Coaches head to be called for in three years and fired in 8 when there are no resources left to pay for the savior QB.

Corrosion 01-21-2014 06:29 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acal21 (Post 2288525)
The QB is gonna be Schaub or Keenum, I honestly blame Kubiak for how bad they were

I just can't get over the thought of Clowney and JJ playing side by side

You never know maybe we get ourselves a QB in the 2nd round and he ends up being the guy sooner than anticipated

Yeah , the same guy who turned Schaub into a multi time pro bowler ..... Kubiak didn't all the sudden forget how to coach , Schaub had health issues.
Keenum was an UDFA , there is a reason he went undrafted .... He just didn't have the ability to be a successful NFL QB. The only thing he can do is improvise.


Clowney ?! 3 sacks last season. Unmotivated , questionable character and injury issues .... Yeah , that screams draft me 1:1.

Thorn 01-21-2014 07:30 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Where's the answer "I haven't the slightest frigging idea and neither do you" on your list? :lol:

Corrosion 01-21-2014 08:11 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 2288636)
Where's the answer "I haven't the slightest frigging idea and neither do you" on your list? :lol:

Its in the "So .... who's your QB" thread.:barman:

Hervoyel 01-21-2014 08:41 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
I answered the question in the only manner a hopeless optimist could.

"Instant Turnaround, Playoffs in 2014"

Only because there was no "Superbowl Mother****er!" option available.

Hervoyel 01-21-2014 09:07 AM

Re: New coaching regime
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2288626)
Yeah , the same guy who turned Schaub into a multi time pro bowler ..... Kubiak didn't all the sudden forget how to coach , Schaub had health issues.
Keenum was an UDFA , there is a reason he went undrafted .... He just didn't have the ability to be a successful NFL QB. The only thing he can do is improvise.


Clowney ?! 3 sacks last season. Unmotivated , questionable character and injury issues .... Yeah , that screams draft me 1:1.

Yeah, I completely agree that Schaub's demise was the result of him losing that tiny little shred of athletic ability that allowed him to keep his head above water for so many years. He couldn't do it anymore so he got desperate and began making stupid mistakes trying to force it. Ok, I also think that some of the smarter defenses in the league had worked out certain tendencies that the Texans had and exploited them (Matt probably making it easier to do in falling back on them so much).

Keenum I've been thinking about a lot lately. Those first three starts. 17-16 loss to the Chiefs, a 24-27 loss to the Colts, and a 24-27 loss to the Cardinals. 6 TD's and no picks.

I just keep wondering if that might have played out differently had the Texans won one or more of those games. So much depends on momentum in the NFL and it's like these three very close losses just snuffed out the very real spark Keenum brought to the team. After a few weeks to let the stink of the season fade a bit and after stepping back to look at the entirety of the thing (which I believe is an absolute must. It's 16 games that are all part of a narrative. Looking at just Keenum's starts, or just Schaub's starts doesn't give you an accurate picture. Wins and losses need to be placed in the correct context I think). I've concluded that Case Keenum isn't done. He may be done here as a result of the change that this season brought about but I don't think we've seen the last of him in the NFL and I don't think we've seen the best of him either.

I don't think that the only thing he can do is improvise. Think about that for a moment. that's just silly. He can execute a game plan. He can run an offense and yes, he can read a defense. The situation speaks for itself and I'm going to say right now that you could not have placed any NFL QB in that situation and gotten results. Too many issues. Line issues, RB injury issues, defensive issues. The season was lost before Keenum ever got on the field and he wasn't going to be able to change that.

When a team loses 14 straight games that's the kind of event that has taken on a life of its own. You don't right that mess with a second year QB very often. Usually never.

The Clowney thing I agree with you on though. He's the only defender who appeared to rate the 1-1 pick and his issues make him a real risk at 1-1. I think that Clowney being a question mark will contribute as much to our going QB at 1-1 as the relative quality of any available QB prospect. If Clowney had come through this year he'd be the pick and we'd roll with a second rounder or possibly even Keenum again. Instead I think we take Bridgewater and hope it works out.


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