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leebigeztx 01-03-2014 09:41 PM

Potential Free Agents
 
As most have pointed out, all the holes can't be fixed via draft. Some of the holes can be fixed through free agency. I'm not talking high dollar,big time free agents, moreso middle of pack guys who are known or on the come up.

I would like to see the texans offer a 4yr deal to either Jason Worlids or Jerry Hughes. I've watched both guys and I think both are on the verge of breaking out. I remember polian saying both are the best benders in the draft. I'm not saying the will lead the nfl in sacks,but both worlids and hughes are seemingly starting to get it. Hughes had 10 sacks and Worlids had 8. Both guys are 25 and are free agents. Buffalo has a ton of money, pittsburgh is bumping the cap and in trouble. Not to mention the steelers drafted jones last yr and woodley is still on the roster. I have a few more,but I don't wanna hog the thread.

NastyNate 01-03-2014 10:47 PM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
I'm pretty sure it's "Worilds"

TJ Ward is my first pick. I'd be okay grabbing Orakpo or maybe Eugene Monroe if we don't grab a suitable tackle, I don't think Baltimore pays him.

DX-TEX 01-03-2014 11:04 PM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyNate (Post 2279380)
I'm pretty sure it's "Worilds"

TJ Ward is my first pick. I'd be okay grabbing Orakpo or maybe Eugene Monroe if we don't grab a suitable tackle, I don't think Baltimore pays him.

Harbaugh said last week he wants to keep him

aussie_texan 01-03-2014 11:07 PM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyNate (Post 2279380)
I'm pretty sure it's "Worilds"

TJ Ward is my first pick. I'd be okay grabbing Orakpo or maybe Eugene Monroe if we don't grab a suitable tackle, I don't think Baltimore pays him.

orakpo and monroe will surely get big contracts

aussie_texan 01-03-2014 11:13 PM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
how about Rodger Saffold and Austin Howard for the RT position.
Brandon Spikes and lamarr houston could potentially be options all be it expensive ones

bah007 01-03-2014 11:29 PM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
T.J. Ward will get a big contract for a safety.

I still submit that if we want a one year rental at QB Vick is a good choice.

Mari-OWNED! 01-03-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 2279413)
I still submit that if we want a one year rental at QB Vick is a good choice.

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O'Brien said he wants smart play from his quarterback, not a turnover/injury prone one. I'd rather start a rookie over Vick.

bah007 01-03-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED! (Post 2279428)
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O'Brien said he wants smart play from his quarterback, not a turnover/injury prone one. I'd rather start a rookie over Vick.

He's also the most polished of the terds available if y'all insist on signing a FA QB.

I'd prefer not to trade picks for a QB. If we do that we're making a commitment to that player. We're not making a move like that and then just letting the guy walk.

In my mind the best plan is to draft Bridgewater and sign Vick. Let Vick start until he inevitably gets hurt, and then throw Teddy in there.

michaelm 01-03-2014 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 2279432)



In my mind the best plan is to draft Bridgewater and sign Vick. Let Vick start until he inevitably gets hurt, and then throw Teddy in there.


Sounds good. Teddy gets to sit on the bench observing Vick and learn what not to do, then eventually he'll get on the field.
5 minutes into game one of his career when Vick gets hurt.

Mari-OWNED! 01-03-2014 11:58 PM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 2279432)
He's also the most polished of the terds available if y'all insist on signing a FA QB.

Who is "y'all?" I personally don't think this team needs to have a vet QB on the roster.

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I'd prefer not to trade picks for a QB.
Totally agree with you here. Those picks are for rebuilding.

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In my mind the best plan is to draft Bridgewater and sign Vick. Let Vick start until he inevitably gets hurt, and then throw Teddy in there.
I'm okay with Vick on the roster if the Texans draft Bridgewater, but I am definitely not okay with the idea of Vick starting over Bridgewater in any way, shape, or form. There's no better way for a rookie to learn than on the field experience in my opinion.

bah007 01-04-2014 12:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED! (Post 2279437)
Who is "y'all?" I personally don't think this team needs to have a vet QB on the roster.


Totally agree with you here. Those picks are for re-building.


I'm okay with Vick on the roster if the Texans draft Bridgewater, but I am definitely not okay with the idea of Vick starting over Bridgewater in any way shape or form. There's no better way for a rookie to learn than on the field experience in my opinion.

Y'all just being whoever is advocating for signing a FA QB, whoever it may be.

I think that a rookie QB can benefit from adjusting to the NFL without having the expectations of being the #1 pick placed immediately upon them. I don't like to ever start a rookie QB unless it is clear that it would be bad for the team if the player didn't start, which very may well end up being the case if Bridgewater is the QB we select. I think he is this year's only rookie QB who is ready to start year 1 if necessary.

leebigeztx 01-04-2014 12:28 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
In the secondary, I like tracy porter, if his health checks out. I also like Huff as a free safety and matchup guy. Alan branch has played well since leaving arizona.

drs23 01-04-2014 01:17 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelm (Post 2279435)
Sounds good. Teddy gets to sit on the bench observing Vick and learn what not to do, then eventually he'll get on the field.
5 minutes into game one of his career when Vick gets hurt.

LOL. My exact thought!

TXAg14 01-04-2014 01:22 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
I think the Texans will need to pick up a veteran QB to back up any rookie they pick in the draft. If the Texans pick a QB in the first round, obviously they plan to start him. However if the plan is to wait until a later round, the veteran QB may be more heavily leaned upon.

I can't see the Texans going into the 2014 season with Schaub, Yates or Keenum on the roster. Keenum at least would make a little sense, but I can't imagine him giving advice to a rookie QB. "Don't be worried if you see eight defenders up on the line. Hold on to the ball and let a receiver get open."

dalemurphy 01-04-2014 01:45 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Okay, here's a list. I'm leaving the OL alone- I haven't paid enough attention the past year or two... Also, I know a number of guys on my list have injury issues- I'm assuming we would kick the tires on them and see if they have anything left (perhaps after our training staff is replaced!):

QB: Henne, McCoy, JMcCown, Cassel
HB: A.Bradshaw, Stephens Howling
TE: SChandler, Pitta, Dickson, BMyers, Kellen Davis, Fred Davis

3-4 DEs/ or DTs for either: Tyson Jackson, Ratliff, Linval Joseph, T. Cody

43 DE/ 34 OLBs: R. Ayers, Shaughnessy, D.Tapp

LBs: DBishop, Witherspoon, Dansby, DJ Williams, Stewart Bradley, Akeem Jordan

CBs: Richard Marshall, Sherrod McManis!!

S: Nate Allen, Mikell, Will Allen, Chris Clemons (I'd love TJWard but surely he'd be very costly)

leebigeztx 01-04-2014 02:21 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 2279469)
Okay, here's a list. I'm leaving the OL alone- I haven't paid enough attention the past year or two... Also, I know a number of guys on my list have injury issues- I'm assuming we would kick the tires on them and see if they have anything left (perhaps after our training staff is replaced!):

QB: Henne, McCoy, JMcCown, Cassel
HB: A.Bradshaw, Stephens Howling
TE: SChandler, Pitta, Dickson, BMyers, Kellen Davis, Fred Davis

3-4 DEs/ or DTs for either: Tyson Jackson, Ratliff, Linval Joseph, T. Cody

43 DE/ 34 OLBs: R. Ayers, Shaughnessy, D.Tapp

LBs: DBishop, Witherspoon, Dansby, DJ Williams, Stewart Bradley, Akeem Jordan

CBs: Richard Marshall, Sherrod McManis!!

S: Nate Allen, Mikell, Will Allen, Chris Clemons (I'd love TJWard but surely he'd be very costly)

I like that Fred Davis mention. Dude is ultra talented,runs like the wind and can detach from los. Linvale Joseph is another guy I like on your list. Young guy on the up,can play the nt or the 5 tech. Richard Marshall is a guy who is probably better suited for S than cb now. He's always been a sure handed tackler and can be the nickel cb. Ayers is the true definition of solid.

bigbrewster2000 01-04-2014 08:17 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 2279469)
Okay, here's a list. I'm leaving the OL alone- I haven't paid enough attention the past year or two... Also, I know a number of guys on my list have injury issues- I'm assuming we would kick the tires on them and see if they have anything left (perhaps after our training staff is replaced!):

QB: Henne, McCoy, JMcCown, Cassel
HB: A.Bradshaw, Stephens Howling
TE: SChandler, Pitta, Dickson, BMyers, Kellen Davis, Fred Davis

3-4 DEs/ or DTs for either: Tyson Jackson, Ratliff, Linval Joseph, T. Cody

43 DE/ 34 OLBs: R. Ayers, Shaughnessy, D.Tapp

LBs: DBishop, Witherspoon, Dansby, DJ Williams, Stewart Bradley, Akeem Jordan

CBs: Richard Marshall, Sherrod McManis!!

S: Nate Allen, Mikell, Will Allen, Chris Clemons (I'd love TJWard but surely he'd be very costly)

That's a nice list Dale. If we were to go the veteran QB route and only looking on the list that you have and no one else Cassell is the most intriguing guy I see. There are certainly worse options out there and he has experience with BOB.

steelbtexan 01-04-2014 08:29 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 2279469)
Okay, here's a list. I'm leaving the OL alone- I haven't paid enough attention the past year or two... Also, I know a number of guys on my list have injury issues- I'm assuming we would kick the tires on them and see if they have anything left (perhaps after our training staff is replaced!):

QB: Henne, McCoy, JMcCown, Cassel
HB: A.Bradshaw, Stephens Howling
TE: SChandler, Pitta, Dickson, BMyers, Kellen Davis, Fred Davis

3-4 DEs/ or DTs for either: Tyson Jackson, Ratliff, Linval Joseph, T. Cody

43 DE/ 34 OLBs: R. Ayers, Shaughnessy, D.Tapp

LBs: DBishop, Witherspoon, Dansby, DJ Williams, Stewart Bradley, Akeem Jordan

CBs: Richard Marshall, Sherrod McManis!!

S: Nate Allen, Mikell, Will Allen, Chris Clemons (I'd love TJWard but surely he'd be very costly)

Off of that list give me

Cassel/Joseph/Davis

PHILLYTEXANFAN 01-04-2014 08:51 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 2279469)
Okay, here's a list. I'm leaving the OL alone- I haven't paid enough attention the past year or two... Also, I know a number of guys on my list have injury issues- I'm assuming we would kick the tires on them and see if they have anything left (perhaps after our training staff is replaced!):

QB: Henne, McCoy, JMcCown, Cassel
HB: A.Bradshaw, Stephens Howling
TE: SChandler, Pitta, Dickson, BMyers, Kellen Davis, Fred Davis

3-4 DEs/ or DTs for either: Tyson Jackson, Ratliff, Linval Joseph, T. Cody

43 DE/ 34 OLBs: R. Ayers, Shaughnessy, D.Tapp

LBs: DBishop, Witherspoon, Dansby, DJ Williams, Stewart Bradley, Akeem Jordan

CBs: Richard Marshall, Sherrod McManis!!

S: Nate Allen, Mikell, Will Allen, Chris Clemons (I'd love TJWard but surely he'd be very costly)

Lol Nate Allen is straight garbage

WolverineFan 01-04-2014 10:05 AM

Re: Discount Free Agents
 
O'Brien worked wonders with Cassel and he was probably the best of the 3 crappy Minnesota QB's this year. Wouldn't mind signing him and going into camp with...

Cassel/Draft Pick/Keenum


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