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Hookem Horns 01-03-2014 05:03 PM

Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
New article on ESPN.com. Didn't see this posted yet, not that this is really news. Of course McNair would be open if the right deal came around.

Quote:

HOUSTON -- Texans owner Bob McNair is open to trading out of the No. 1 overall selection in this year's NFL draft.

"Maybe we'll trade down and still get a quarterback that can do the job and get an outstanding defensive player," McNair said Friday. "It's an exciting time. Everything's a moving target. Lot of different pieces."

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GanguliAfter this season's mess at quarterback, the Texans are smart to keep all options open with the No. 1 pick in the draft, writes Tania Ganguli. Blog

The Texans secured the top pick with a league-worst 2-14 record this season. They fired coach Gary Kubiak on Dec. 6 and officially announced the hiring of Bill O'Brien on Friday to be the franchise's third head coach.

Houston needs a quarterback with the likely departure of veteran Matt Schaub and the struggles of young quarterback Case Keenum, who started eight games and didn't win any of them.

"I don't think you take a particular position just because you need a particular position at any point in the draft, especially the first pick," Texans general manager Rick Smith said. "So we'll rank it, we'll value it, and we'll make good choices if the opportunity presents itself to move back because it is a very valuable pick, and we'll entertain those as well."

This is the third time the Texans have had the No. 1 overall pick, and each time it has coincided with a new head coach. With their first No. 1 overall pick, the expansion Texans selected quarterback David Carr in 2002. With their second in 2006, the Texans took pass-rusher Mario Williams.

Unfortunately, both suffered losing seasons in those years, combining to go 10-22.

"The defensive player worked out better than the offensive player," McNair said with a chuckle. "That won't lock us into anything."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...ding-no-1-pick

Marshall 01-03-2014 05:05 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Hookem Horns (Post 2279202)
New article on ESPN.com. Didn't see this posted yet, not that this is really news. Of course McNair would be open if the right deal came around.



http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...ding-no-1-pick

This is music to my ears.
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Errant Hothy 01-03-2014 05:06 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
This is a non-story of the highest order.

b0ng 01-03-2014 05:12 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Errant Hothy (Post 2279206)
This is a non-story of the highest order.

Agreed. Nobody is deadset on keeping their pick in January unless it's an Andrew Luck type draft.

bOODRO87 01-03-2014 05:17 PM

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"Maybe we'll trade down and still get a quarterback that can do the job and get an outstanding defensive player,"
Sooo, what it sounds like to me is the first plan is to draft a QB at No. 1.

Teddy, Teddy, Teddy...

Marshall 01-03-2014 05:21 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Errant Hothy (Post 2279206)
This is a non-story of the highest order.

Au Contraire; this is big. Let it be known that Texans should receive any offers that might have gone to the Rams at number two if everyone thinks we are locked in to one player or one position, Make it known that we have the prime trade position, not the Rams.

Trade with the Rams and take a chance that your trade will not bring the player you covet. I'd take a deal for Minnesota's 1st and second in 2014 and 2015 so they can leapfrog other QB hungry teams. At 8, we could still get a prime player, but closer to where they should be drafted rather than overpriced. But Minnesota would have to have made a different analysis than us.

Even better would be trades with St Louis or Cleveland if the price is right and we think our guy will fall to us later.

My dream would be to trade down one slot at a time while picking up draft choices until we reach the point our guy is next up.

Errant Hothy 01-03-2014 05:24 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Marshall (Post 2279213)
Au Contraire; this is big. Let it be known that Texans should receive any offers that might have gone to the Rams at number two if everyone thinks we are locked in to one player or one position, Make it known that we have the prime trade position, not the Rams.

Trade with the Rams and take a chance that your trade will not bring the player you covet. I'd take a deal for Minnesota's 1st and second in 2014 and 2015 so they can leapfrog other QB hungry teams. At 8, we could still get a prime player, but closer to where they should be drafted rather than overpriced. But Minnesota would have to have made a different analysis than us.

Even better would be trades with St Louis or Cleveland if the price is right and we think our guy will fall to us later.

My dream would be to trade down one slot at a time while picking up draft choices until we reach the point our guy is next up.

If it takes the owner saying this in public for trade offers to be made than the front office here, and a bunch of other places, are in serious disarray.

NFL GMs are fully capable of doing their due diligence without McNair advertising the pick is available.

badboy 01-03-2014 05:26 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Marshall (Post 2279213)
Au Contraire; this is big. Let it be known that Texans should receive any offers that might have gone to the Rams at number two if everyone thinks we are locked in to one player or one position, Make it known that we have the prime trade position, not the Rams.

Trade with the Rams and take a chance that your trade will not bring the player you covet. I'd take a deal for Minnesota's 1st and second in 2014 and 2015 so they can leapfrog other QB hungry teams. At 8, we could still get a prime player, but closer to where they should be drafted rather than overpriced. But Minnesota would have to have made a different analysis than us.

Even better would be trades with St Louis or Cleveland if the price is right and we think our guy will fall to us later.

My dream would be to trade down one slot at a time while picking up draft choices until we reach the point our guy is next up.

Bolded could possibly happen. Trade with Browns then maybe to Minnie or Oakland or both. I think the key is not to get greedy and expect RG3 type deal.

infantrycak 01-03-2014 05:27 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Errant Hothy (Post 2279215)
If it takes the owner saying this in public for trade offers to be made than the front office here, and a bunch of other places, are in serious disarray.

NFL GMs are fully capable of doing their due diligence without McNair advertising the pick is available.

Plus the fact that the top picks are shopped every single year so this is the ultimate non-news.

badboy 01-03-2014 05:27 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Errant Hothy (Post 2279215)
If it takes the owner saying this in public for trade offers to be made than the front office here, and a bunch of other places, are in serious disarray.

NFL GMs are fully capable of doing their due diligence without McNair advertising the pick is available.

Then why did St Louis do it so quickly?

Errant Hothy 01-03-2014 05:29 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2279222)
Then why did St Louis do it so quickly?

Honestly? Pandering in my opinion. Snyder did not need to be told that the Rams were open to trading.

drs23 01-03-2014 06:03 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Marshall (Post 2279213)
Au Contraire; this is big. Let it be known that Texans should receive any offers that might have gone to the Rams at number two if everyone thinks we are locked in to one player or one position, Make it known that we have the prime trade position, not the Rams.

Trade with the Rams and take a chance that your trade will not bring the player you covet. I'd take a deal for Minnesota's 1st and second in 2014 and 2015 so they can leapfrog other QB hungry teams. At 8, we could still get a prime player, but closer to where they should be drafted rather than overpriced. But Minnesota would have to have made a different analysis than us.

Even better would be trades with St Louis or Cleveland if the price is right and we think our guy will fall to us later.

My dream would be to trade down one slot at a time while picking up draft choices until we reach the point our guy is next up.

Yeah, that'd be really cool. The coup of all times, but alas, a dream. Has that ever happened before?

Marcus 01-03-2014 06:40 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Errant Hothy (Post 2279215)
NFL GMs are fully capable of doing their due diligence without McNair advertising the pick is available.

Don't be so cynically melodramatic. The same thing is said every year.

That said, if they trade down multiple times, all the way out of the first round, I'd be one happy camper. The team is very overrated in the overall talent department.

Marshall 01-03-2014 06:42 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Errant Hothy (Post 2279215)
If it takes the owner saying this in public for trade offers to be made than the front office here, and a bunch of other places, are in serious disarray.

NFL GMs are fully capable of doing their due diligence without McNair advertising the pick is available.

There are never enough sales pitches. Where did you learn marketing?

Errant Hothy 01-03-2014 06:48 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 2279259)
Don't be so cynically melodramatic. The same thing is said every year.

That said, if they trade down multiple times, all the way out of the first round, I'd be one happy camper. The team is very overrated in the overall talent department.

I know. Which is why my first post called this whole announcement a non-story.

EllisUnit 01-03-2014 06:51 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
OMG THIS NEWS IS LIKE.....a preacher saying he might go to church sunday.

Man i hate the off season, this one specifically is going to suck more so than previous ones IMO.

NastyNate 01-03-2014 07:13 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall (Post 2279213)
Au Contraire; this is big. Let it be known that Texans should receive any offers that might have gone to the Rams at number two if everyone thinks we are locked in to one player or one position, Make it known that we have the prime trade position, not the Rams.

Trade with the Rams and take a chance that your trade will not bring the player you covet. I'd take a deal for Minnesota's 1st and second in 2014 and 2015 so they can leapfrog other QB hungry teams. At 8, we could still get a prime player, but closer to where they should be drafted rather than overpriced. But Minnesota would have to have made a different analysis than us.

Even better would be trades with St Louis or Cleveland if the price is right and we think our guy will fall to us later.

My dream would be to trade down one slot at a time while picking up draft choices until we reach the point our guy is next up.

I take it this is your first offseason watching professional football. This is not news. In other news, I might eat carrots this week, I might not.

JCTexan 01-03-2014 07:15 PM

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I'm starting to feel like this is one off-season I'm going to want to skip. I can't wait until the draft gets here.

Marshall 01-03-2014 07:44 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
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Originally Posted by NastyNate (Post 2279270)
I take it this is your first offseason watching professional football. This is not news. In other news, I might eat carrots this week, I might not.

~I've only had 50 years watching the off season and I guess I need a little more seasoning.~

By the way, it's said every year for a reason. Talking heads like to take away options and GMs and Owners like to keep them. It's like marketing any other product. There can't be too much as long as it doesn't cost any more.

Playoffs 01-03-2014 07:57 PM

Re: Bob McNair open to trading No. 1 pick
 
A man asks a woman if she would be willing to sleep with him if he pays her an exorbitant sum. She replies affirmatively.

He then names a paltry amount and asks if she would still be willing to sleep with him for the revised fee. The woman is greatly offended and replies as follows:

She: What kind of woman do you think I am?

He: We’ve already established that. Now we’re just haggling over the price.




Tough crowd.


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