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Tearstain 01-02-2014 06:47 PM

Austin Jenkins TE
 
fter reading about our new HC and his liking for TE. (Forget where I read this)

Would a 2nd or 3rd (if lucky) rd draft pick for this big bruiser of a TE be worth it?

270 lbs with a good catch radius and the strength to power out of tackles. An excellent red zone target (area we have struggled with). Only down side I have been reading is his burst speed and blocking for his size.
One report says he has same skill sets as Mercedes Lewis at the Jags.

I know we have lots of other more urgent holes to fill but thoufht I would put it out there for a discussion (getting bored of everything been QB related sorry).

TexansFTW 01-07-2014 11:12 AM

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I wonder why this thread was buried and not talked about. I'm interested to hear what people that know more than me have to say.

The QB talk has gotten a little old, I agree. I doubt at this point either side is going to be swayed by the other.

Playoffs 01-07-2014 12:27 PM

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Austin Seferian-Jenkins, 6-6/266 TE Washington

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Skill-Set Summary: Tight ends have taken the NFL by storm in recent years and Seferian-Jenkins looks like the best tight end prospect to come along since the 2010 NFL Draft that featured a banner crop of tight ends. Seferian-Jenkins is a physical specimen who looks like he could be a high-impact tight end in the mold of the Patriots' Rob Gronkowski or the Saints' Jimmy Graham.

Seferian-Jenkins could become the complete package as a tight end. He is a fantastic receiver with the potential to be a top blocker. In the ground game, Seferian-Jenkins is generally effective on his blocks. He doesn't sustain his blocks as long as one would like and could use more force and attitude. That being said, Seferian-Jenkins flashes some impressive blocking in pass protection on edge-rushers.He could stand to improve more as a blocker for the NFL, but definitely has the skill set to be a good one.

As a receiver, Seferian-Jenkins is a matchup nightmare. He is too quick for linebackers to cover in man coverage and too big for defensive backs. The junior has a burst off the line and excellent straight-line speed to burn defenses down the middle seam. Seferian-Jenkins uses his size and strength to box out defenders for the ball. He has no problem going up over defensive backs to make contested catches. Seferian-Jenkins has phenomenal agility and body control for a thick tight end, and his basketball background is easily visible there.

To go along with his size and speed, Seferian-Jenkins has excellent hands and runs good routes. He is a rare tight end with his run-after-the-catch ability. Seferian-Jenkins uses his burst to run away from defenders and his size to bounce off of tacklers. He is very hard for one defensive back to bring down. Once Seferian-Jenkins has the ball, he does a nice job of picking up extra yards with a nose for the red zone.

Seferian-Jenkins looks like he could be a three-down tight end NFL and a devastating weapon as a pass receiver. He should be a phenomenal red-zone target. His rare combination of size, speed and athletic ability make him an elite tight end prospect for the next level.

2014 NFL Draft Expectations: It wouldn't be surprising if the biggest question mark for Seferian-Jenkins when he enters the NFL is off-the-field concerns. Some teams could be frightened away because of his DUI arrest and that could cause him to slide in the 2014 NFL Draft. For Seferian-Jenkins to be a high draft pick, it is vital that he stays out of trouble and develops the reputation that his problems are behind him.

Seferian-Jenkins enters the 2013 season looking like a first-round talent for the 2014 season. He just has to stay healthy, productive and out of trouble off the field. If Seferian-Jenkins is able to do that, the junior could easily be a Thursday night selection and one of the top tight ends to enter the NFL in recent years.
Question is is he http://www.modacity.net/forums/style...t-airquote.gifAaron Hernandez or has he changed?

Worth reading/watching: http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...kins06xml.html

Usually the people who "get it" talk more about who they might have killed/harmed and less about me, my body, my career, my life. But have to give him props for standing up and talking at all.

Really like him as a propect and would love to see a trade down where he's our second selection. More to learn about him in upcoming months.

Texian 01-07-2014 12:33 PM

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A good choice for the Texans 2nd RD pick IF he gets by the New England Patriots in RD 1.

aussie_texan 01-07-2014 07:02 PM

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anyone one of the top 3 to 4 TEs i would be happy with. although Amaro is my favourite

bhsman 01-07-2014 08:01 PM

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I think he and Griffin (as well as Graham, if he stays) would be an impressive group of Tight Ends and would fit what O'Brien likes to do with his offense. I would say that comparing any player to Aaron Hernandez when his character concerns are alcohol-related seems to be an exaggeration.

Marshall 01-07-2014 08:20 PM

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Right now, CBSSports.com has him behind Eric Ebron and Jake Amaro and an early second rounder. If we trade down, we'd have to pick up another 1st and high 2nd this year to take TE that high.

Cleveland fits.
St. Louis fits if they zero in on a player, but there's no indication of that now.
Minnesota would probably have to give up 2015 picks to move up. Tennessee and Jacksonville are unlikely trade partners.
Oakland might be a fit.

Blake 01-08-2014 03:18 PM

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Was it being in Washingtons offense, or just a lack of vertical speed that kept his numbers low? 35 yards per game isnt very impressive.

mattieuk 01-08-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake (Post 2282181)
Was it being in Washingtons offense, or just a lack of vertical speed that kept his numbers low? 35 yards per game isnt very impressive.

As a Huskies fan...

His statistical drop off this year was huge from last year. I don't think the DUI preseason shenanigans helped one bit, especially after the strong Boise St. season opener and his pinky issue probably slowed him down as well. Coach Sark used the Boise game to test out his up tempo game, which was pretty run intensive and actively developed receiving playmakers based on their pace. There just wasn't the dependance on ASJ this year that was seen before. If you watched the 2012 season, Keith Price had a shocking year, in no small part due to one of the most holey o-lines in the country and ASJ benefited from that pressure quite a bit. The change in offense this year did help ASJ become more of a rounded TE.

The off the season issue is not much of a red flag. I think the coach dealt with it very well, and I can't see a relapse of that kind of behaviour, and it appears to be an iscolated blemish which he paid for in the season opener, which, as the first game at the redeveloped Husky Stadium was pretty much a bowl game.

If he falls to the second round (and I do think there is a good chance he goes in the late first round due to an increase in stock after workouts due to his physical absurdity) the Texans would do very well to pick him up.

Blake 01-08-2014 04:32 PM

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Thanks for the insight. I mocked us trading up for Ebron in the 1st and it was not well received. Maybe getting a guy like this in the 2nd would be more of a crowd pleaser.

bah007 01-09-2014 08:25 AM

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I like Seferian-Jenkins. He has good speed moving forward but he is sometimes slow coming out of his cuts. He also suffers from the drops every now and then even though he has good hands. That's more of a concentration thing than a physical issue. These are nitpicks though. He's a solid late 1st/early 2nd round prospect. And his size and blocking are impressive enough that I remember Texas recruiting his as an OT.

I would prefer Fiedorowicz at the top of the third, but if ASJ is sitting there at #33 and you're planning on taking a TE then I don't see how you pass.

Texian 01-09-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake (Post 2282181)
Was it being in Washingtons offense, or just a lack of vertical speed that kept his numbers low? 35 yards per game isnt very impressive.

New OC, installed hurry up spread O. That's the reason for low numbers. See ASJ #'s from prior years. If he had same #s this year he would be #1 TE.

Playoffs 02-22-2014 05:07 PM

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Ryan McCrystal ‏@Ryan_McCrystal
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Austin Seferian-Jenkins says he wasn't cleared medically to participate. Didn't say why. Didn't say when he might be cleared.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins dodging questions on NFL Network on why he didn't work out and when he will work out. He says "talk to my agent"
"Unsure about his pro day."

Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline
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Sources tell me unlikely Seferian-Jenkins is healthy for a pro-day.

I'm told the injury which kept Austin-Seferian Jenkins from working out is a fracture in his foot.

Tearstain 02-23-2014 03:46 PM

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Just been reading the Bleacher Report and it looks like he is out for upto 8 weeks.

He dropped 20lbs for the combine.

Will this effect his draft position?

Still think we should take him 33rd if still there.

Playoffs 02-23-2014 05:57 PM

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In the last hour Ive learned much more on the injury which kept Austin Seferian-Jenkins from working out yesterday. It was an injury medical examiners at the combine accidentally found.

Doctors x-rayed Seferian-Jenkins left foot with the sole intention of examining the ankle which he sprained a year ago and kept him on the sidelines during a small portion of the 2012 season. In reviewing the x-rays doctors noticed what seemed to be a potential small fracture in the foot and ordered more tests. Im told Seferian-Jenkins was getting ready to take the field for his workout when he was pulled from the line and told additional tests were needed.

The big tight end was as surprised as anyone as hed never experienced pain in his left foot to that point. Seferian-Jenkins combine weight of 262-pounds is a number significantly lower than his playing weight of 2013.

Im told Seferian-Jenkins had been timing in the 4.6s during recent training.
Tony Pauline

mussop 02-23-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2303451)
Tony Pauline

He's my number one target at TE. Has been for months

htownfan32 02-24-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2303534)
He's my number one target at TE. Has been for months

Mine is Ebron but no way he slips to 33. Dude will be gone by pick 20. After that ASJ is my #2 TE, with Amaro at #3.

bah007 02-24-2014 03:32 PM

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I value TE differently than most. I prefer guys that can block just as well as they can catch. Guys like Ebron and Amaro are awesome but I like Niklas and Fiedorowicz the most in this class.

You can be more multiple on offense with those guys because they can play on the line of scrimmage. They block like a third OT and they are athletic enough to get open in the middle of the field.

Dutchrudder 02-24-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 2303942)
I value TE differently than most. I prefer guys that can block just as well as they can catch. Guys like Ebron and Amaro are awesome but I like Niklas and Fiedorowicz the most in this class.

You can be more multiple on offense with those guys because they can play on the line of scrimmage. They block like a third OT and they are athletic enough to get open in the middle of the field.

You can also get them later in the draft... :)

kiwitexansfan 02-24-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bah007 (Post 2303942)
I value TE differently than most. I prefer guys that can block just as well as they can catch. Guys like Ebron and Amaro are awesome but I like Niklas and Fiedorowicz the most in this class.

You can be more multiple on offense with those guys because they can play on the line of scrimmage. They block like a third OT and they are athletic enough to get open in the middle of the field.

Would you put Arthur Lynch in with that group?

Seems like another guy who can add value as a blocker and still be a reliable target to get those 1sts.


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