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Stemp 01-01-2014 08:12 PM

Tampa Bay to hire Lovie Smith
 
From SiriusXM NFL Radio Facebook:

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reporting Tampa is finalizing a deal to make Lovie Smith their new Head Coach. Bucs fans, you happy with with this move?? Did you want someone else? Sound off..

Trap_Star 01-01-2014 08:14 PM

Re: Tampa Bay to hire Lovie Smith
 
Jeff Tedford to be his OC, and Leslie Frazier to be his DC

Stemp 01-01-2014 08:15 PM

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ext-head-coach

Fred 01-01-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stemp (Post 2277619)
From SiriusXM NFL Radio Facebook:

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reporting Tampa is finalizing a deal to make Lovie Smith their new Head Coach. Bucs fans, you happy with with this move?? Did you want someone else? Sound off..

Texans win! Texans win!

thunderkyss 01-01-2014 08:17 PM

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This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.

Texn4life 01-01-2014 08:21 PM

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And the Tampa 2 defense is returning to its rightful home. I like his staff decisions though.

Texan4Ever 01-01-2014 08:41 PM

Re: Tampa Bay to hire Lovie Smith
 
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Originally Posted by Trap_Star (Post 2277622)
Jeff Tedford to be his OC, and Leslie Frazier to be his DC

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Originally Posted by Texn4life (Post 2277632)
And the Tampa 2 defense is returning to its rightful home. I like his staff decisions though.

Tedford can coach and produce some solid QBs in college (Dilfer, Carr, Rodgers) so as an OC should be interesting what he does for Glennon. I like Frazier as a DC, his Vikings D's have been solid for a few years now.

What about Monte Kiffin? Too old to run the Tampa 2 for the Bucs again? How about Jon Gruden as an Assistant HC? *sarcasm*

Showtime100 01-01-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2277626)
This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.

I kind of thought that's what the Texans were doing when they interviewed him.

ArlingtonTexan 01-01-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime100 (Post 2277663)
I kind of thought that's what the Texans were doing when they interviewed him.

yeah, interviewing a coach who

1) last year as a head coach was 10-6
2) taken a team to the superbowl in his 9 year head coaching stint
3) Was DC of the Rams when they won the superbowl

smells of just talking to him because he is a minority.

I think (don't know for sure) that TK was being sarcastic.

Showtime100 01-01-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2277684)
yeah, interviewing a coach who

1) last year as a head coach was 10-6
2) taken a team to the superbowl in his 9 year head coaching stint
3) Was DC of the Rams when they won the superbowl

smells of just talking to him because he is a minority.

I think (don't know for sure) that TK was being sarcastic.

I can't answer for TK, but I was serious. I didn't want Smith and I slightly raised my eyebrows when Kubiak practically bumped into Lovie while making his way to the car.

There's a lot about Lovie Smith I don't know about. I did watch him coach when his games were in TV, I wasn't impressed.

Fred 01-01-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2277626)
This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.

Hope the other teams all interviewed him already. Lovie off the market, Sumlin & Shaw & Dungy not interviewing - hey Romeo Crennel, do you have a few minutes to talk to us?

BetaV1 01-02-2014 10:34 AM

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Wish it were us. I always feel that you if you're in the market for a coach, you get one that will maximize your best player. The best player for the Texans is JJ Watt. Lovie would've been able to field a front seven that could make JJ's job a whole lot easier, and if Watt's job were to become even easier than it is now, opposing quarterbacks would consider talking to a mortician before games.

Conversely for Tampa Bay, their best player is Darelle Revis, although you can make a strong case for Vincent Jackson or Doug Martin, I think if you had the ability to grab one player from each team in the NFL, you take Revis from the Bucs.

Scooter 01-02-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BetaV1 (Post 2278073)
I always feel that you if you're in the market for a coach, you get one that will maximize your best player. The best player for the Texans is JJ Watt. Lovie would've been able to field a front seven that could make JJ's job a whole lot easier, and if Watt's job were to become even easier than it is now, opposing quarterbacks would consider talking to a mortician before games.

i was leaning towards lovie smith for this exact reason. we have the best defensive player in football, and i think lovie would've been the head coach most likely to make the most of watt. i cant fault the texans' brass too much though, it IS a passing league. even with the best defender in the game we only managed 2 wins.

thunderkyss 01-02-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooter (Post 2278092)
i was leaning towards lovie smith for this exact reason. we have the best defensive player in football, and i think lovie would've been the head coach most likely to make the most of watt. i cant fault the texans' brass too much though, it IS a passing league. even with the best defender in the game we only managed 2 wins.

I liked that Lovie was considered because he is one of the few HCs who get fired with a winning record. Even more rare with a "recent" Conference Championship. He's probably a "better" Andy Reid on the defensive side of the ball.









And he's from Texas.

Playoffs 01-02-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2277626)
This is probably just a Rooney rule smokescreen. They're really going to hire Kubiak.

Huh? I don't get this.

Lovie is the real deal. He suffered the worst drafting GM for nearly the entirety of his time in Chicago. The man is a head coach. Delegates. Strong minded on his defense. And unflappable. Players played for Lovie.

Watch what he does in Tampa... with his Tampa. I'm a fan of the man.

WolverineFan 01-02-2014 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaV1 (Post 2278073)
Wish it were us. I always feel that you if you're in the market for a coach, you get one that will maximize your best player. The best player for the Texans is JJ Watt. Lovie would've been able to field a front seven that could make JJ's job a whole lot easier, and if Watt's job were to become even easier than it is now, opposing quarterbacks would consider talking to a mortician before games.

Conversely for Tampa Bay, their best player is Darelle Revis, although you can make a strong case for Vincent Jackson or Doug Martin, I think if you had the ability to grab one player from each team in the NFL, you take Revis from the Bucs.

How does Lovie to TB help Revis? He's a man corner that was stuck playing zone this year by Schiano and struggled. Now he's a man corner that will be stuck playing Cover 2. How does that maximize his ability?

I could see this move helping their recent 1st round pick Gerald McCoy and their stud WLB Lavante David, but not Revis.

BetaV1 01-02-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WolverineFan (Post 2278128)
How does Lovie to TB help Revis? He's a man corner that was stuck playing zone this year by Schiano and struggled. Now he's a man corner that will be stuck playing Cover 2. How does that maximize his ability?

Remember when people questioned how our personnel would fit Wade's 3-4? It fit just fine because we understood that while we throw out the name of a defense, that does not imply that you'll see that formation for 100% of the game, or even a majority of the game.

The same is said with the cover 2. The principle idea behind the Tampa 2 is two bodies covering the outside deep and one body covering the middle deep. That doesn't mean it HAS to be two safties and a middle linebacker. It could be a combination of anything. I'd imagine you'll see Revis playing a lot of looks in the safety position regardless of the fact that he's a cornerback by name. It's how Lovie used Charles Tillman when he knew it was obvious passing downs or when facing a big time WR like Calvin Johnson.

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I could see this move helping their recent 1st round pick Gerald McCoy and their stud WLB Lavante David....
Which indirectly helps Revis. :)

Playoffs 01-02-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WolverineFan (Post 2278128)
I could see this move helping their recent 1st round pick Gerald McCoy and their stud WLB Lavante David, but not Revis.

McCoy was the #1 rated NT by PFF in 2013. David, the #2 rated 4-3 OLB. Revis was the #1 rated CB. Stacked!

But I agree, think Revis is gone.

WolverineFan 01-02-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2278154)
McCoy was the #1 rated NT by PFF in 2013. David, the #2 rated 4-3 OLB. Revis was the #1 rated CB. Stacked!

But I agree, think Revis is gone.

I don't follow PFF so not sure on the rankings. Everything I heard this year pointed to Revis struggling this year.

ChampionTexan 01-02-2014 12:38 PM

Re: Tampa Bay to hire Lovie Smith
 
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Originally Posted by Scooter (Post 2278092)
i was leaning towards lovie smith for this exact reason. we have the best defensive player in football, and i think lovie would've been the head coach most likely to make the most of watt. i cant fault the texans' brass too much though, it IS a passing league. even with the best defender in the game we only managed 2 wins.

I like the O'Brien hire, and I'm excited by it, but I would have been totally ok if it had ended up being Lovie also.

I think there's some folks on this board who looked at Lovie's persona, and saw Kubiak. After that, anything related to actually coaching an NFL football team kind of ceased to matter.


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