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TexansFight 01-01-2014 05:40 PM

Bill O'Brien "type" players on our roster
 
Let's start thinking about who is a BO'B type player. First and foremost, I think JJ Watt will absolutely love playing for this guy. I really think hiring BO'B is going to help us re-sign JJ. AJ will love having an intense, offensive mind that takes advantage of matchups to maximiize the remainder of his career. Poor guy suffered under milquetoast coaches in Capers and Kubiak and now finally gets a winner.

Guys that don't fit, Schaub obviously, Wade Smith, Newton and OD. See you later McCain on D. Who else makes the grade with BO'B?

EllisUnit 01-01-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TexansFight (Post 2277477)
Let's start thinking about who is a BO'B type player. First and foremost, I think JJ Watt will absolutely love playing for this guy. I really think hiring BO'B is going to help us re-sign JJ. AJ will love having an intense, offensive mind that takes advantage of matchups to maximiize the remainder of his career. Poor guy suffered under milquetoast coaches in Capers and Kubiak and now finally gets a winner.

Guys that don't fit, Schaub obviously, Wade Smith, Newton and OD. See you later McCain on D. Who else makes the grade with BO'B?

I see him keeping Foster

Heres my deal, if he is anything like Bill B than our team will be getting smaller, but faster. I dont see a TE on our roster who fits his style. I do expect we will become a pass first tem though, which i think will help pro long Fosters career.

dalemurphy 01-01-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit (Post 2277485)
I see him keeping Foster

Heres my deal, if he is anything like Bill B than our team will be getting smaller, but faster. I dont see a TE on our roster who fits his style. I do expect we will become a pass first tem though, which i think will help pro long Fosters career.

I'm sure Griffin is a fit- though he may not be someone to feature.

It will be interesting to see what his take on Matt Schaub is. I am sure the organization will move on from Schaub as the "starter", but I think it is at least possible (particularly if the plan is to draft a QB in round one) O'Brien will want Schaub to be the veteran backup/mentor- a role that he would like excel in.
O'Brien's assessment of Schaub will be one of the more interesting things to watch this off-season, I think.

Texn4life 01-01-2014 06:54 PM

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I hope his fire helps with our Corners and he can find someone to fix their technique issues. I'd hate to think JJo is done this soon. Hopefully he'll bring in a DC to match the passion for the game that he has.

Our 3 core Lineman should all respond to him well. Arian will if healthy, AJ, Cushing, and he will probably love Braman and Reed. Hopefully he loves Reed as an inside backer though.

welsh texan 01-01-2014 07:10 PM

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Yo seem to have named players where the consensus is that they've underperformed rather than given any insight into which players are prototypical at their position for what Bill O'Brien is likely to want to do scheme wise.

I think in New England you implement the master plan that the hood lays out for you, and I'm unsure whether his time at PSU can be seen a fair reflection of his ideal world tendencies because the programme was hamstrung by their sanctions to the point where the recruiting must have been more about taking who they could get rather than allowing him to be picky about taking guys to fit his scheme.

I think that will smooth the transition, the dude is obviously good at playing to the strengths of what he has to work with, and I'm pretty sure McNair will have favoured someone who doesn't expect to rip the roster apart and start again.


I think we'll see a scheme built around what we have on the roster, I think he may well feel comfortable to axe a few vets taking big pay checks in order to off us some cap room.

EllisUnit 01-01-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 2277522)
I'm sure Griffin is a fit- though he may not be someone to feature.

It will be interesting to see what his take on Matt Schaub is. I am sure the organization will move on from Schaub as the "starter", but I think it is at least possible (particularly if the plan is to draft a QB in round one) O'Brien will want Schaub to be the veteran backup/mentor- a role that he would like excel in.
O'Brien's assessment of Schaub will be one of the more interesting things to watch this off-season, I think.

Whew Schaub is way to expensive to keep on the roster as a back up. I dont see that happening !

aussie_texan 01-01-2014 08:53 PM

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will be interesting what he does with the players that are underperfoming: wade smith, OD (more injury and cap related), Jjo, Derek Newton, Sharpton for example.

Also players like Keo who even though are not that good are improving steadily game by game year by year.

Others to look out for are Tim Jamison and Crick.

kingtexan 01-01-2014 09:03 PM

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He is going to probably like the guys who show intensity.

We have a few of those, but need more.

Quick II Draw 01-01-2014 09:30 PM

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It will be interesting to see who O'Brien keeps and cuts, but it is a waste of time to talk about considering nobody even knows what schemes he will run much less the type of NFL players he likes...

badboy 01-01-2014 09:43 PM

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just flipped over from Fiesta game to catch local Fox sports and Foster suppose to say why he hopes Chick Harris (RB coach) remains.

bah007 01-01-2014 09:52 PM

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O'Brien will tailor his scheme to fit whatever pieces he has to work with.

Will he be looking for specific types of players going forward? I'm sure. But for now, I expect we will still lean on Foster and AJ and continue to use our TEs quite frequently in the passing game.

A great coach makes his scheme fit his players, not the other way around.

ArlingtonTexan 01-01-2014 10:06 PM

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let's see I am guessing that BOB type players will include Watt, a. Johnson, D. brown, foster, cushing and the other 5 or so better players on the Texans...just guessing

Norg 01-01-2014 10:23 PM

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so basically his type of players our are VEt Superstar players ...yeahhh that's not good because Rick does not draft Superstars all to often

steelbtexan 01-01-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2277782)
let's see I am guessing that BOB type players will include Watt, a. Johnson, D. brown, foster, cushing and the other 5 or so better players on the Texans...just guessing

I've got my doubts that Foster will make it back and be effective after back surgery. Think Cody

Gary ran Foster into the ground.

Norg 01-01-2014 10:37 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if Foster retires ever since he got payed hes been a BUM

and didn't he say once hes not gonna over stay his welcome in the NFL he wants a career after the NFL like Hollywood or something

bah007 01-01-2014 10:50 PM

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Let's please not make this a Foster bashing thread...

Guy was a UDFA and earned his money. He got paid because he was a straight up beast and our franchise decided he was worth it (yet to be determined). Not his fault.

badboy 01-01-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2277823)
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster retires ever since he got payed hes been a BUM

and didn't he say once hes not gonna over stay his welcome in the NFL he wants a career after the NFL like Hollywood or something

There is this thinggy called a search engine you should use. Foster in 2012 had over 1400 yards with 351 attempts (many think that led to his injuries in 2013). Projected to 16 games he would have been at least 1100 yards this season.

Playoffs 01-01-2014 11:31 PM

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Some players w ties to O'Brien worth watching: James Ihedigbo, Daryl Smith, Randy Starks, Jordan Hill (rookie contract) Vincent Rey #Texans

Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallett. I think he'll find 1 to 2 vets that's he's comfortable with & draft a QB, not sold on 1st overall thou. #Texans

Several veterans with ties to O'Brien make sense to come in and compete for depth & push rookie. Shaun Hill, Brian Hoyer(contract), Thad...

Bill O'Brien also had Thaddeus Lewis at Duke when he was an OC / QB coach. Ryan Mallett was drafted at QB while O'Brien was OC. #Texans

Bill O'Brien has been sold by some as having to have a pocket passer. I believe his background opens him to a wide array of QBs. #Texans

bckey 01-02-2014 04:58 AM

Re: Bill O'Brien "type" players on our roster
 
Don't forget about Matt McGloin. O'Brien got this guy to surpass Daryll Clark's record for most career touchdown passes in Penn State history with 45, Clark's single-season passing yard record of 3003, and the record for most completions in a season. He went undrafted and signed as a free agent with the Raiders. He could probably be had for cheap and is very familiar with O'Brien. You guys already know what he did to the Texans in his first start with the Raiders. He didn't do all that well after that but maybe O'Brien could use him as a stop gap until whoever we draft at qb is ready to go. Just a thought.

You mentioned Mallot and that is a possibility also. The Patriots shopped him last year with no takers. So maybe they were asking too much.

Another possibility at qb would be Ryan Nassib from the Giants for no particular reason other than I like his potential.

LikeMike 01-02-2014 06:42 AM

Re: Bill O'Brien "type" players on our roster
 
Since I am not really familiar with O`Brien - what are O`Brien kind of players? The players I see listed here are basically our best players - those are every coaches kind of players. But what does he look for? Fast players that aren`t too big like NE, strong as a bull linemen, smart players that can adjust the playcalling on the field, athletic freaks that can be taught to play football?

Honest question, what are Bill O`Brien type players? Will he use zone blocking schemes? 3-4 defense? Creative coverages? Only tall TEs? Will he use a FB in the passing game? 5 WR sets? Wildcat? Blitz a lot or let the front handle the pass rush?


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