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Uncle Rico 12-07-2013 06:30 PM

Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...houston-texans

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Or they could try to pick up the best of both worlds. With the first overall pick in a draft where there's a true franchise quarterback available, the Texans are sure to field juicy trade offers reminiscent of the haul that the Rams received from Washington in the Robert Griffin III deal. Maybe Houston trades the first pick to the Rams for their two first-round picks and ends up with Clowney and, say, local star Johnny Manziel. The point is that the Texans have options. Part of rebuilding quickly is getting a really high draft pick at exactly the right time. The Texans appear to have pulled that off.
This scenario is particularly intriguing to me. I still feel strongly that the team should take the best QB available, but if you are somehow able to nab two top level players in one deal you do it. This draft is freaking loaded, Rick Smith better not mess it up because it shouldnt be that hard to retool given the players that will be available during your selections. I dont agree with the Clowney part, but any variety of multiple top 15 picks would work wonders.

I would even get uber aggressive and trade back into the late 1st round and get yet another guy, using picks from next years draft.

kiwitexansfan 12-07-2013 06:44 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
Many would argue faulty logic on this piece because Bridgewater is a JAG.

If the league is convinced on Teddy though it has more merit, then again if Teddy is a franchise guy you take him and never look back.

Surreal McCoy 12-07-2013 06:53 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan (Post 2265138)
Many would argue faulty logic on this piece because Bridgewater is a JAG.

If the league is convinced on Teddy though it has more merit, then again if Teddy is a franchise guy you take him and never look back.

You also have to find a team dumb enough to make that trade. RGIII/Herschel Walker type deals come along rarely...

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 06:54 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
Man, it's gonna be fun watching Teddy every Sunday.

1.1 Bridgewater
2.1 Best RT avail
3.1 BPA
4.1 BPA
5.1 BPA
6.1 BPA
7.1 Kicker

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 06:55 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy (Post 2265141)
You also have to find a team dumb enough to make that trade. RGIII/Herschel Walker type deals come along rarely...

Great point.

It's not going to happen.

And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.

Linca 12-07-2013 07:01 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by SchaubApologist (Post 2265143)
Great point.

It's not going to happen.

And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.

What makes you think Bridgewater is the answer? He has not looked impressive in a lot of his starts including; UH, Memphis, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I don't get this Teddy fever. If you were to take any the other 1st or 2nd round quarterbacks and play those same teams it would be a total blow out.

He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.

infantrycak 12-07-2013 07:01 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy (Post 2265141)
You also have to find a team dumb enough to make that trade. RGIII/Herschel Walker type deals come along rarely...

Not sure why people keep saying this about the RGIII trade. The trade is not far off by the chart. Future picks are downgraded a round per year conventionally.

kiwitexansfan 12-07-2013 07:02 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by SchaubApologist (Post 2265143)
And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.

Is he? Someone is going to have to make that call in the FO.

If he is you draft him, if he is not you hope some team is convinced he is not.

That one decision will determine our next few years.

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 07:10 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Linca (Post 2265146)
What makes you think Bridgewater is the answer? He has not looked impressive in a lot of his starts including; UH, Memphis, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I don't get this Teddy fever. If you were to take any the other 1st or 2nd round quarterbacks and play those same teams it would be a total blow out.

He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.

Did you see his game last thursday?

Teddy is absolutely a franchise QB:

1) The guy strives to be a "coach on the field"
2) There's not a bad hair on his head
3) He runs a pro style offense at lville
4) Capable of reading defenses and making adjustments at the LOS
5) Makes ALL the throws
6) Throws his WR's open
7) Natural leader
8) Uncanny pocket awareness
9) Keeps his eyes downfield while side stepping pass rush
10) Makes plays when the play called breaks down
11) Goes through progressions
12) 4.5-4.6 speed
13) Pocket passer first
14) Ice water in his veins
15) Football junkie
16) Film junkie
17) Understands football
18) Great dude, Great citizen, Face of Franchise type player

I have studied him extensively over the past 1.5 years. He's the real deal. I cannot wait to see #5 Teddy Bridgewater in a Texans uniform.

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 07:19 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan (Post 2265148)
Is he? Someone is going to have to make that call in the FO.

If he is you draft him, if he is not you hope some team is convinced he is not.

That one decision will determine our next few years.

Not having a franchise caliber QB has plagued our team for the last 12 years.

I'm willing to take a gamble. Although I do not see it as a gamble, but nothing is a "sure thing".

Playoffs 12-07-2013 07:27 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
Nice writeup by Barnwell, thanks for posting it.

WolverineFan 12-07-2013 07:55 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Linca (Post 2265146)
He plays in the AAC, these are NOT GOOD DEFENSES IN COLLEGE. He has had one good victory over Florida but he has really regressed since then.

?

Since the Florida game....

268/382 (70.2%) for 3523 yards (9.2 y/a) with 28 TD's and 4 INT's.

You can not like him because he doesn't blowout UH. That's fine. But don't throw stuff like regression against the wall hoping it will stick. That is just simply inaccurate.

badboy 12-07-2013 08:05 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by SchaubApologist (Post 2265143)
Great point.

It's not going to happen.

And, I'm ecstatic because Bridgewater is so freaking legit.

most were shocked when Washington gave three firsts and a second for RG3 but they did. Cleveland defense is getting good but still need a QB and they missed out on RG3 so a deal is not out of question.

Bulls on Parade 12-07-2013 08:06 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by SchaubApologist (Post 2265154)
Did you see his game last thursday?

Teddy is absolutely a franchise QB:

But then there is his mediocre performance against our own Houston Cougars about a month back and it makes you second guess yourself.

http://youtu.be/IQKN-F6fk6I

2:02 to 2:11 and 2:40 to 2:51 in particular. We already have Case Keenum who can do that with our current offensive line.

But anyways, watch the entire 7:38 video and I'm not convinced Teddy is a franchise QB. Yeah it's one game but that's against our hometown team. Eat 'Em Up Cougs!

aussie_texan 12-07-2013 08:09 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2265169)
most were shocked when Washington gave three firsts and a second for RG3 but they did. Cleveland defense is getting good but still need a QB and they missed out on RG3 so a deal is not out of question.

:evil:

Bulls on Parade 12-07-2013 08:11 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
Uncle Rico. I'll be upset if we don't draft Jadeveon Clowney number one overall. We need to add another beast up front to pair with J.J. Watt, especially if we move to a 4-3 defense depending on the new coaching staff.

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Bulls on Parade (Post 2265171)
But then there is his mediocre performance against our own Houston Cougars about a month back and it makes you second guess yourself.

http://youtu.be/IQKN-F6fk6I

2:02 to 2:11 and 2:40 to 2:51 in particular. We already have Case Keenum who can do that with our current offensive line.

But anyways, watch the entire 7:38 video and I'm not convinced Teddy is a franchise QB. Yeah it's one game but that's against our hometown team. Eat 'Em Up Cougs!

haha, so 1 bad game does it for you?

you realize no one is perfect, right? andrew luck and peyton manning had bad games in college too.

kiwitexansfan 12-07-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Bulls on Parade (Post 2265175)
Uncle Rico. I'll be upset if we don't draft Jadeveon Clowney number one overall. We need to add another beast up front to pair with J.J. Watt, especially if we move to a 4-3 defense depending on the new coaching staff.

Franchise QB trumps franchise DL right?

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by Bulls on Parade (Post 2265175)
Uncle Rico. I'll be upset if we don't draft Jadeveon Clowney number one overall. We need to add another beast up front to pair with J.J. Watt, especially if we move to a 4-3 defense depending on the new coaching staff.

be prepared to be upset.

no chance we take clowney because of his red flags.

smith is not about to go through sam montgomery again.

SchaubApologist 12-07-2013 08:34 PM

Re: Grantland's Latest Take on the Texans
 
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Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan (Post 2265189)
Franchise QB trumps franchise DL right?

exactly!!!

another DL is straight up a luxury pick for a team without a franchise qb.

but, no worries, clowney has mad red flags.


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