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acal21 11-25-2013 08:23 PM

Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
When I watched this offense all last year i was drooling over the thought of having a mobile, fast QB when Schaub would be Schaub and thought about how amazing we could be

It seems like everyones favorite QB on here is Bridgewater, so would you guys not believe that Kubiak could turn things around and make a run for a Super Bowl in the last year of his contract with a change at QB?

Thorn 11-25-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
A good QB would improve things. So would a good O-line. And even the best QB can't perform at their best when they are getting hit and sacked all the time.

ATXtexanfan 11-25-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
#8 believes.

acal21 11-25-2013 08:39 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 2257396)
A good QB would improve things. So would a good O-line. And even the best QB can't perform at their best when they are getting hit and sacked all the time.

Im not talking about this year, this year has been a complete disaster... think about last year when we were still winning games but would slow down on offense

Obviously at 2-9 there is gonna be more than one position you have to fix

Im not sure what I'm rooting for at this point, thats all

Thorn 11-25-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I'm rooting for the Texans first. But also for a new GM, coaching staff, and front office staff.

Marcus 11-25-2013 08:42 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
It's not a question of "believing in Kubiak".

The season has gone to sh!t, and fans want that mental reset going into the offseason.

acal21 11-25-2013 08:49 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 2257406)
It's not a question of "believing in Kubiak".

The season has gone to sh!t, and fans want that mental reset going into the offseason.


I definitely understand that

Thats exactly what I need, 5 weeks early

Say Watt 11-25-2013 08:55 PM

I routinely pointed out the problems with Kubiak last year and felt their were many problems with the team then, and still believe the same now. This team has underperformed under Kubiak, the last two seasons notwithstanding.

acal21 11-25-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Say Watt (Post 2257411)
I routinely pointed out the problems with Kubiak last year and felt their were many problems with the team then, and still believe the same now. This team has underperformed under Kubiak, the last two seasons notwithstanding.


They do underperform under Kubiak and i don't think that is something that will change as the head coach of the Texans.. if he figures it out its not going to happen here in Houston

Norg 11-25-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I still believe in Kubes ..... yes rick smith NO


but uhh I don't think hes making a good case for himself right now esp if we lose out


Maybbbbeee myabbbeee if we win out and show we can beat dees elite teams in Denver pats and colts and wipe out ten and jags on the road then IDK but we will see

acal21 11-25-2013 09:09 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I honestly think if we fixed our special teams, i would have a little bit more faith in kubiak to fix this team

JB 11-25-2013 09:17 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
If we had one of the top running attacks in the NFL, Kubiak's offense can be potent. Doesn't change the fact that it has gotten so predictable that you can call the play beforehand and so can the defense. A better QB might change that, and fixing the offensive line would help. He's still learning to manage the game.

I think on a different team and with a different set of circumstances he may be a decent HC. But he has lost this team, and there is no going back.

silvrhand 11-25-2013 09:31 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acal21 (Post 2257393)
When I watched this offense all last year i was drooling over the thought of having a mobile, fast QB when Schaub would be Schaub and thought about how amazing we could be

It seems like everyones favorite QB on here is Bridgewater, so would you guys not believe that Kubiak could turn things around and make a run for a Super Bowl in the last year of his contract with a change at QB?

It's not just this year for many years we have seen the following:

- getting completely outcoached
- not having his team ready for big games aka primetime
- we have only beat a bad bengals team in the playoffs, see above
- not able to deliver a good QB, even though he's supposedly a great QB coach.
- sticks with players/coaches too long.
- doesn't seem willing to adjust his style to suit his players.

Now that being said Kubiak has done a lot for this team, and he's a great person, but I just think he's not head coach material and that's ok. He'll make a great position/offensive coordinator somewhere if he can learn to adjust. I just think it's time for us to move on to get to the next level.

badboy 11-25-2013 09:40 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I like Kubiak as well as Schaub and rooted for them but that is over. We play down to the level of competition seemingly. We can replace MS & maybe Keenum will, but not sure about who would replace Kubiak. I am not fan of ZBS or multi TE sets. It is like when I filed for divorce, didn't care what kind of life replaced the married life I had, I just wanted a change. I am beginning to lose respect for Robert McNair.

Corrosion 11-25-2013 09:40 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Say Watt (Post 2257411)
I routinely pointed out the problems with Kubiak last year and felt their were many problems with the team then, and still believe the same now. This team has underperformed under Kubiak, the last two seasons notwithstanding.

I don't think they underperformed .... I think Schaub's injury was a bigger deal than any of us could imagine and it significantly increased his limitations. Then throw in injuries to Cushing , OD and Foster .... along with pathetic play from the OL and this is what you get.

I think Keenum has played about as well as he possibly could under the circumstances and the defense .... even tho its given up points is still a good unit overall , proof being they are still leading the league in yardage allowed while being 2-9 , not producing turnovers and cant get off the field on 3rd downs as well as the offense constantly putting them back on the field.



There's a lot of talent on this team , its just lacking a QB , a RT and an impact player on defense other than that Watt guy be that a LBer or a DB .... Quarterback being the biggest issue , no matter who the coach is they aren't going to win many games with a broken down Schaub , TJ Yates or Keenum. (yes , Ive passed judgment on Keenum , he's not the solution)

Hard to say they underperformed given the circumstances.

gtexan02 11-25-2013 09:50 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Not a chance. I would have fired Kubiak already if I was McNair. It shows a loser's mentality to keep him around.

Kubiak has had a lot of years to build a team and here we are sitting at 2-9 and getting worse every game. He has lost this team, he has lost the players, and he has lost the fans. If he sticks around next year expectations will be low and we will still probably underachieve.

Kubiak has had so many strikes against him this year it's a miracle he hasn't been kicked to the curb already:
1) Predictable playcalls that have directly contributed to interceptions and pick 6s
2) Refusing to manage our special teams, resulting in the worst kicker in the NFL and atrocious return teams
3) Benching Schaub for Yates. Then benching Yates for Keenum. Then benching Keenum for Schaub. Then benching Schaub for Keenum. Wtf?
4) Sick and needs to remain in the box during games

I hate to put #4 in there, but it's a liability now. A good coach is on the field at game time. If he isn't well enough to do that, I am very sad for him -- but reality is reality.

infantrycak 11-25-2013 10:02 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02 (Post 2257441)
Not a chance. I would have fired Kubiak already if I was McNair. It shows a loser's mentality to keep him around.

Then I guess every owner in the league has a loser's mentality since mid-season firings are rare.

chicagotexan2 11-25-2013 10:31 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I believe in Kubiak less than I believe in Schaub because Kubiak still believed in Schaub. I wish it had worked out for Kubiak here especially because he's a Houstonian. I thought he was a solid HC but everything got away from him and he's crashed and burned in houston.

texanhead08 11-25-2013 10:43 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I don't believe in Kubiak, Smith, Schaub, and Phillips is on thin ice to me.

Big Lou 11-25-2013 10:43 PM

Re: Does anyone still believe in Kubiak?
 
I believed in Kubes too long. I wavered on him in 2010, but believed in him when the offense started rolling in 2011. He has lost this team, and Wade has lost his shine as many pointed out with his past turn arounds, I won't discuss what we call ST.

It's time for a new coach a new QB for that coach. I'd give Rick more time to see how he handles a new coach and new schemes. My only concern (my only concern, but it has to change at some point) is changing offensive schemes and the retooling of the online, although it needs to be blown up anyway.

I just hope their are coaches out there that can do what the Harbaughs have, which pains mean because I loathe the Harbaughs.


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