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dream_team 11-25-2013 12:23 AM

Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
The Texans are at 2-4, just coming off their 4th straight loss in a row. Kubiak is left with a tough decision, here are his options going into the next game:

1) Keep Schaub as the starter. He got hurt in the Rams game, but he claims he's good to go. Plus, we all know his mobility with a busted ankle is just as good with a healthy one. I know a lot of fans thought the season was over at this point, but guess what... it wasn't. A 5-6 crappy Titans team are currently in the playoffs, are you serious!? That means if we simply would have beaten the Raiders & Jags, we'd be only one game out of the playoffs right now with a game against the Titans still remaining. Schaub isn't an exciting player, and he's not going to win games by carrying guys on his back... but we do know he is capable of winning games. He was in a slump, no doubt, but did Kubiak give him an honest shot of getting out of that slump? The fact remains, Schaub has won the only two games we've won this season, while Keenum has now lost more games than Schaub.

2) Give TJ a real shot at being a starter. I know TJ didn't have a great "half" in the Rams game. But lets be honest, did he have a real shot at earning the starting job? He came in at the middle of the 3rd quarter, already down by 18. He had to take some shots and be aggressive. That's hard to do, considering he most likely had no real reps during practice with the 1st team. If he was truly the 2nd string QB on the team, the honest decision here would have been to give TJ a week to prepare for the KC game and give him a shot at being the starter for the rest of the season.

3) No, he made the right choice by handing the keys to Keenum. We were heading no where with Schaub, so by starting Case, it would lead to either one of the following. 1) Case sparks the team into a winning streak and leads us into the playoffs. 2) Case doesn't play well and it gives us a clear signal we MUST looks for an answer at QB this offseason. At least it seems like we got our answer about Case... but was it really worth throwing away a whole season, just to see if one guy is worth being a starter in this league?

To be honest, I don't know what the right answer is. I could have gone with any of the three. I do know this, though... I'd rather win games now than try to find answers about the future. It's hard to fathom, that if we simply won 3 of our last 9 games, we'd be sitting pretty in a playoff spot right now.

Norg 11-25-2013 12:27 AM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
well obvs Scahub was hurt or hurt enough to make a change


if Matt was healthy I would of rolled with matt a lot longer I think we started Case to soon


he made a mastike in not giving TJ yates a fair shot or at least a lot longer shot

but IMO I think he sees these guys every day he knows who Qb's I guess but he knew the least about Case I think he knew more about TJ then case


but man TJ made that run beat cincy ATL and CINCY again were did that TJ go ..?????

Vance87 11-25-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg (Post 2256859)
well obvs Scahub was hurt or hurt enough to make a change


if Matt was healthy I would of rolled with matt a lot longer I think we started Case to soon


he made a mastike in not giving TJ yates a fair shot or at least a lot longer shot

but IMO I think he sees these guys every day he knows who Qb's I guess but he knew the least about Case I think he knew more about TJ then case


but man TJ made that run beat cincy ATL and CINCY again were did that TJ go ..?????

That TJ went nowhere, he was just surrounded by a vastly superior team.

Corrosion 11-25-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dream_team (Post 2256852)
was it really worth throwing away a whole season, just to see if one guy is worth being a starter in this league?

Absolutely was the right decision to give Keenum a shot.


We all knew Schaub wasn't the answer and it was fairly obvious that Yates wasn't either. The record would have been no better with either of them under center than it has been with Keenum.

At least we now know that there isn't a QB on this team that's likely to lead this team deep into the playoffs after watching Keenum the past several weeks. We'll have to find that guy elsewhere be it in the draft or via FA.

dream_team 11-25-2013 04:52 AM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
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Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2256866)
Absolutely was the right decision to give Keenum a shot.


We all knew Schaub wasn't the answer and it was fairly obvious that Yates wasn't either. The record would have been no better with either of them under center than it has been with Keenum.

At least we now know that there isn't a QB on this team that's likely to lead this team deep into the playoffs after watching Keenum the past several weeks. We'll have to find that guy elsewhere be it in the draft or via FA.

Another thing to consider is was Keenum ready to start, or should have he spent more time learning all of the little nuances of the game? Did we ruin this guy's confidence and future by playing him too early?

Uncle Rico 11-25-2013 07:09 AM

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Considering the uproar benching Keenum caused why even ask this question? Keenum is being given his shot, thought that's what everybody wanted? Damn a right decision this season is dead in the water. Schaub and Kubiak are both gone, and Keenum won't be looked on as favorably by the next regime. It's a going out of business sale.

IDEXAN 11-25-2013 07:26 AM

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So some fans are already second-guessing the move by Kubiak to start Keenum as the Texans QB ? I dunno, but could anybody but more accurate than Ben Tate when he said Houston fans are really fickle ? I think not.

Thorn 11-25-2013 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2256924)
So some fans are already second-guessing the move by Kubiak to start Keenum as the Texans QB ? I dunno, but could anybody but more accurate than Ben Tate when he said Houston fans are really fickle ? I think not.

Sports fans act up when their favorite team is in the toilet. It's a universal reaction. Houston fans are no different.

cstyle42 11-25-2013 07:38 AM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2256924)
So some fans are already second-guessing the move by Kubiak to start Keenum as the Texans QB ? I dunno, but could anybody but more accurate than Ben Tate when he said Houston fans are really fickle ? I think not.

Houston football fans get a pass 12 years only two playoff appearance no afc championship game or super bowl game appearance. One of four cities to have never been to the super bowl with the other three cities being super small market cities. All the while games keep selling out. Fickle? F that BS...

Mr teX 11-25-2013 07:43 AM

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I think he should've given Yates a more legitimate chance for a few more games before he went to Case...that's the only thing i disagree with. We were still in it playoffs wise & although Case's performance's were admirable, noone can deny his inexperience was part of the difference in both the KC and Indy loses.

The other end of this is you give him a pressure free audition for the next regime as opposed to the situation he was put in from the outset.

Dutchrudder 11-25-2013 09:05 AM

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we lost, therefore he made the right decision :)

Vinny 11-25-2013 09:10 AM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
Keeping a guy at QB as your #2 that you won't play if your QB goes down...well, great call Kubes.

Mr teX 11-25-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 2256965)
Keeping a guy at QB as your #2 that you won't play if your QB goes down...well, great call Kubes.

someone needs to do one of those miller lite "real american heroes" skits off of this post right here..well done Vinny.

Dread-Head 11-25-2013 10:16 AM

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I still say Bill should have started....I'm just sayin'.

The1ApplePie 11-25-2013 10:20 AM

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There isn't a starting NFL QB on the roster, might as well throw the local kid out there

TexansBlood 11-25-2013 10:32 AM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
Whoops. I agreed with the 3rd opinion. So I went to the poll and clicked 3rd option with out reading. haha

TheIronDuke 11-25-2013 11:47 AM

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I picked the third but I was just trolling like I always do when it's a private poll.

Rey 11-25-2013 11:51 AM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
For the sake of the franchise it was the right call. Schaub wasn't leading anybody anywhere.

At least now we know what we need and we now have the ammo to get that done. Having a top 5 pick (or the #1 pick) in every round should prove valuable for the next regime. Hopefully we pick a good head coach this time.

Honoring Earl 34 11-25-2013 12:22 PM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
Kubiak made the right call IMO because the team was going nowhere and needed a spark . The same thing that's killed the Texans raised it's ugly head under Case , stifled in the 2nd half of games .

Kubiak made the wrong choice in his haste to put Matt back in . That was a boneheaded , short sighted move that has left the team helpless . Heads need to role .

Well Case has now come down Kubes doghouse disease . Don't know if he can recover but Matt's immune to it . After Kubes pulled him in the Raiders game , he might as well played Schaub in the Jags game because the horse has left the barn .

I think the QB of the Texans future is not on the roster yet . I also think the Texans need to get a coach who is not passive aggressive but in your face . The Texans way means picking and choosing who gets the wrath and who doesn't .

WolverineFan 11-25-2013 12:33 PM

Re: Did Kubiak make the right call?
 
It was the right call to go to Keenum. Schaub was hurt and you know what you have in Yates. See what the kid can do so you know where you stand at QB come offseason.

I do feel bad for Yates though because he hasn't been given a shot. I think we all know that we would see Schaub Jr, but it still sucks for him. He did win the 1st playoff game in franchise history.


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