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beerlover 11-18-2013 11:28 AM

BL Stop bleeding Mock Draft
 
First Round: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M, 6050 310

Second Round: Will Sutton, NT, Arizona State, 6010 300

Third Round: AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama, 6030 215

Fourth Round: Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia, 6050 258

Fifth Round: Michael Dyer, RB, Louisville, 5090 217

Sixth Round: Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin, 5110 248

Seventh Round: Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas, 6040 300


Even with trading down there is just no way to cover all holes on this roster but at least this would stop some of the bleeding with safe, right the ship picks if in fact it is possible for Kubiak to save his job @ this point?

Big upgrade to OL well as heart/middle of defense. QB to groom under Keenum, TE to replace Owen & RB to replace Tate. :fostering:

htownfan32 11-18-2013 12:04 PM

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If AJ McCarron can read the blitz and get the ball out faster than Keenum I'm all for it.

Good draft, but no CB?

WolverineFan 11-18-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htownfan32 (Post 2252980)
If AJ McCarron can read the blitz and get the ball out faster than Keenum I'm all for it.

Good draft, but no CB?

McCarron has great numbers against the blitz. The problem is, he has played behind the best O-Line in the country for 4 years so even when he's blitzed he's rarely truly pressured.

It will be interesting to see how he responds in the NFL when that's not the case.

rmartin65 11-18-2013 12:11 PM

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I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.

Texian 11-18-2013 01:04 PM

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I like it but I don't think McCarron last to Rd 3. With media draftniks maybe, NFL draft boards probably not. I would guess McCarron is closer to Rd 1 than Rd 3. Like Lynch in Rd 4 and Hopkins in Rd 7. IMHO better value with Manziel Rd 1 and Schreff Rd 2. As for NT easier to find better value in FA at reasonable cost.

beerlover 11-18-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rmartin65 (Post 2252983)
I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.

Thanks Amigo,

It thought Mitchell had one of his best games but seemed like every time he made a play they rotated him out then nothing. Sutton is a better prospect coming out than Earl who was taken with high 3rd.

Like stated there are just more needs than picks even with a trade down plus have yet to identify a DB after priority needs are met, as BB states Texans can roll w/Kareem on the cheap for one more season.

WolverineFan 11-18-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rmartin65 (Post 2252983)
I really like this draft, with the exception of Sutton. I don't think he will be anything special in the NFL. Great college player, JAG in the NFL. Maybe slot a CB in there, and hope to fill the NT spot in FA.

Sutton was a beast last year. He put on weight to take on double teams and looks slow. He would do better to get down to his previous weight. He's not a NT. Using him as one is a waste of his skills.

I agree with BL's assessment that he's a more talented Earl Mitchell. Both guys have the similar skill-set's. They are gap shooting 3' techniques that excel at rushing the passer. Like Mitchell, he would be miscast at NT in this defense.

aussie_texan 11-18-2013 03:58 PM

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who is your starting ILB and back ups next year?

Texian 11-18-2013 04:52 PM

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FWIW - I had Mitchell as 5th RD draft pick. Needless to say I was aghast when the Texans took him in the 3rd.

badboy 11-18-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WolverineFan (Post 2253205)
Sutton was a beast last year. He put on weight to take on double teams and looks slow. He would do better to get down to his previous weight. He's not a NT. Using him as one is a waste of his skills.

I agree with BL's assessment that he's a more talented Earl Mitchell. Both guys have the similar skill-set's. They are gap shooting 3' techniques that excel at rushing the passer. Like Mitchell, he would be miscast at NT in this defense.

I also agree with BL and 65 as we should move Mitchell over to take Ninja's place and back him with Crick for at least one more year.

beerlover 11-18-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aussie_texan (Post 2253239)
who is your starting ILB and back ups next year?

Cushing & Sharpton starters.
Borland & Tarp back-ups.

steelbtexan 11-18-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2253372)
I also agree with BL and 65 as we should move Mitchell over to take Ninja's place and back him with Crick for at least one more year.

Depends on what type of defense the new regime wants to run next yr.

aussie_texan 11-19-2013 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2253384)
Cushing & Sharpton starters.
Borland & Tarp back-ups.

and your happy with that?

Ps. tone my not come across right way with this wording, just asking.

beerlover 11-19-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie_texan (Post 2253536)
and your happy with that?

Ps. tone my not come across right way with this wording, just asking.

I'd be super happy if both Cushing/Sharpton could stay healthy for a change. While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!

Texian 11-19-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2253543)
While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!

Stud and 6th is a contradiction in terms covered and smothered with a whole lot of wishful hoping and thinking. :)

aussie_texan 11-19-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2253543)
I'd be super happy if both Cushing/Sharpton could stay healthy for a change. While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!

bolded are my concerns. mind you I really like mosley and am probably a little be biased. along with the terrible play of our current linebackers I'm perhaps overreacting when it comes drafting a ILB early

badboy 11-19-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2253543)
I'd be super happy if both Cushing/Sharpton could stay healthy for a change. While adding a stud in 6th who could very well turn into a starter, elated!

Reminder Sharpton is a FA this off season & would probably sign up for reasonable amount but I am done with him.

Insideop 11-19-2013 10:20 AM

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BL, I like most of the positions you drafted and about 3 or 4 of the players. Can't argue with Matthews in the 1st. They have to do something about that right side and Newton isn't cutting it. We do have Quiz and Brennan Williams on IR so I'm sure between Matthews and those 2 they should be able to find their RT and maybe their LG.

Not sure about Sutton in the 2nd. I'm still holding out for a bigger NT like maybe Hageman, if he's still there, or Jones from Penn St. Sutton seems like Mitchell or T. McClain part 2. Just hope who ever the DC is next year will be inclined to go that direction. You can see what it does for teams like KC with Poe or Carolina with Lotulelei. And, it may help Cush stay healthy for a season.

McCarron in the 3rd I'm not really sold on either but it may be a good value. To be honest I'm not really sold on any of the QB's in this draft, so I could live with McCarron I guess. Just not excited about him and wouldn't mind waiting on another QB later and maybe pick up a CB/S here. I know there's a lot of questions moving forward with this team and who the coaches will be next season, but I really think Keenum can be the QB of this team and I hope they will give him a chance.

Lynch in the 4th would be a good replacement for OD who should be gone next season. If the Fiedorowicz kid is still there I'd rather they get him.

Dyer in the 5th I don't know much about but could be a good replacement for Tate.

Borland in the 6th would be great but I don't know if he lasts this long. They may have to take him earlier, but I think he would be a great fit for the LB corps. He's a little undersized (5'11") but a big time run stuffer.

Not sold on taking an OG in the 7th. Whoever you get here will probably not be as good as Ben Jones or Quiz. This spot could be used for a Special Teams player like a quick "scat back" type RB, or maybe another Safety or LBer.

Overall it looks like a good draft and I wouldn't be unhappy with the pickups. Like you said, there's too many holes to fill in one draft, but I think you got most of them.

badboy 11-19-2013 11:15 AM

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The biggest knock against McCarron seems to be he does well behind a great Oline so why not put him behind a great Oline in Houston. Brown, Quess, Myers/Jones, Brooks and Matthews. We want to build the line for Keenum anyway so McCarron would seem to be a perfect fit. My only concern is using that pick elsewhere.

bhsman 11-19-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2253653)
The biggest knock against McCarron seems to be he does well behind a great Oline so why not put him behind a great Oline in Houston. Brown, Quess, Myers/Jones, Brooks and Matthews. We want to build the line for Keenum anyway so McCarron would seem to be a perfect fit. My only concern is using that pick elsewhere.

Except that is basically the same thing as saying he needs a good team around him to win (or at least he wins when there is a very good team around him). He's never been challenged in the way Manziel or Mariota or even Morris and Mettenberger have.


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