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Honoring Earl 34 11-11-2013 10:48 AM

The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcat (Post 2247295)
Dave Toub, ST coach with KC. This guy is going to be another Harbaugh.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/8...ams-highlights

Hey ... if y'all want a special teams coach , good , Bob has a favorite in Joe Marciano . He's a great face of the franchise kinda like another #8 . :hurrah:




Link to the first/original thread:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64514

kingtexan 11-11-2013 11:01 AM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bckey (Post 2247194)
My number 1 GM prospect would be:

Eric DeCosta Ozzie Newsome's long time protege

I like that. Newsome has done wonders for Baltimore. Maybe he could bring a scout or two with him.

I like Reed as a secondary coach. Let Ed coach up the youngsters.

We need a fresh offensive system, Garys has been figured out and exposed. Not sure who the next OC needs to be, but they need to bring something fresh to the table, and not conservative.

Wades defense has also been figured out, and puts too much stock in the blitz. We need to get better at applying pressure with four up front, and controlling the field in coverage. We need to bring in a defensive scheme that is cutting edge, and not the same ol same ol.

ST needs to be completely re-vamped. Bring in someone who is shining at the college level.

Mr teX 11-11-2013 12:05 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yesterday (Post 2247284)
Clear a couple things up first:

Shaw won't be leaving Stanford.
Lovie Smith is not a good coach
Gruden isn't leaving MNF

Now, some other prospects mentioned:

Tony Dungy may be the most overrated coach in NFL history (Anyone could have done what he did with Peyton. In fact, a really good coach would have won many more titles). Just see what Jim Caldwell did with Peyton (14-2) and without.

Rex Ryan isn't getting fired by the Jets - he has done a phenomenal job this year. He's weird, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Tony Dungy also built the defense that Gruden won his SB with...I feel safe in assuming he has an eye for defensive talent..especially when you consider how good his defenses were in Indy.


I'd like to see David Shaw or Obrien from Penn State...

Texian 11-11-2013 12:11 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Dungy has categorically said he is done with coaching, kaput, finished, never to go back. Enjoying his life after coaching to much to ever go back.

TEXANRED 11-11-2013 12:14 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
I would be happy with either Lovie Smith or Kevin Sumlin.

texanhead08 11-11-2013 12:17 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
You need a good GM with an eye for talent no matter who you hire. I don't like a coach having total control or the final say on personnel decisions. It just gives them more things to worry about and its hard enough to coach without having to find players too.

kingtexan 11-11-2013 12:38 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texanhead08 (Post 2247359)
You need a good GM with an eye for talent no matter who you hire. I don't like a coach having total control or the final say on personnel decisions. It just gives them more things to worry about and its hard enough to coach without having to find players too.

Unless someone like Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells walks through the door.

HoustonFrog 11-11-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
You call Cowher, without a doubt. Lovie was well loved up here, even with the firing. Good man, runs great Ds. His issue was working with a GM to hire a competent O Coordinator. Zimmer needs a shot at some point. I'm just a little worried why he hasn't gotten one so far. Not sure if his style wears on people.

LZ threw this out today. I haven't watched his work as much as others so no real opinion here.


Quote:

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 2h
I would take Kyle Shanahan as play-caller in HOU in a heartbeat. I would also consider him w/ interview if HOU went in diff direction at HC

beerlover 11-11-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog (Post 2247395)
You call Cowher, without a doubt. Lovie was well loved up here, even with the firing. Good man, runs great Ds. His issue was working with a GM to hire a competent O Coordinator. Zimmer needs a shot at some point. I'm just a little worried why he hasn't gotten one so far. Not sure if his style wears on people.

LZ threw this out today. I haven't watched his work as much as others so no real opinion here.

Makes a lot of sense. Give Gary his final year contract while lightening his load by bringing back Kyle. Rick Smith will remain the GM. Soild call.

bckey 11-11-2013 01:11 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
We already had little Shanny (28 years old) here and groomed him for daddy to take to Washington as his oc. He isn't going to come back and do the same job he is already doing for his dad. I sure wouldn't want him as head coach here. He is way to inexperienced for that job. I think we need to go in a different direction.

mussop 11-11-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bckey (Post 2247404)
We already had little Shanny (28 years old) here and groomed him for daddy to take to Washington as his oc. He isn't going to come back and do the same job he is already doing for his dad. I sure wouldn't want him as head coach here. He is way to inexperienced for that job. I think we need to go in a different direction.

People said the same thing about Jeff fisher.

kingtexan 11-11-2013 01:34 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Wonder what Rob Ryan could do with our defensive players?

2slik4u 11-11-2013 01:34 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bckey (Post 2247404)
We already had little Shanny (28 years old) here and groomed him for daddy to take to Washington as his oc. He isn't going to come back and do the same job he is already doing for his dad. I sure wouldn't want him as head coach here. He is way to inexperienced for that job. I think we need to go in a different direction.

I bet big Shanny gets canned after this season.

Honoring Earl 34 11-11-2013 01:36 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
I would be done with the Shanny's and their tree .

2slik4u 11-11-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2slik4u (Post 2247423)
I bet big Shanny gets canned after this season.

just to clarify - I want nothing to do with big Shanny. Just pointing out that after daddy gets fired, Kyle will have no other reason to stick around D.C.

To be honest, I am ready for a complete overhaul scheme change myself. Ready for a spread offense a la New Orleans, GB, Denver, etc. The ZBS was great and effective but in order to re-invent our team (which is what I think is needed) I think we need to re-invent the scheme.

HOU-TEX 11-11-2013 01:41 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Jerry Glanville

We might still suck, but ya couldn't say it wouldn't be entertaining


:sarcasm:

The1ApplePie 11-11-2013 01:43 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
Mike Zimmer
Jay Gruden
Lovie Smith
Joe Philbin (if he gets canned over the Incognito mess)

Rob Ryan was a blowhard douche when he was with the Cowboys, not sure if he is head coach material.

Hopefully no college coaches

Lurvinator11 11-11-2013 01:46 PM

Re: Coaching candidates
 
This is just speculation, but:

I was looking at teams records today, and realized it is very possible that 8 teams could have openings this offseason.

Washington 3-6 Shanny
New York Giants 3-6 Coughlin
Minnesota 2-7 Frazier
Pittsburgh 3-6 Tomlin
Tampa Bay 0-8 Schiano
Atlanta 2-7 Smith
Jacksonville 1-8 Bradley
Houston 2-7 Kubiak

Now of course, some of these seasons can be turned around, and won't get fired. Like I said, it's just speculation.

Giving that however, are there any coaches from these teams any of y'all would like to bring in?

Kaiser Toro 11-11-2013 02:37 PM

Re: The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread
 
Little Shanny needs a win on his career path before there is any consideration. Cronyism is a major contributor to the mediocrity of the Texans' Kubiak experience to date.

GuerillaBlack 11-12-2013 10:40 AM

Re: The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread
 
Lovie Smith.


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