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Lord Bills 10-29-2013 12:56 PM

Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Trade deadline today. We have a lot of holes both on offense and defense. Kubiak possibly coaching for his job. A lot of teams out of it already and could part ways with some talent like the Vikings who could trade Jared Allen.

Should the Texans try to make some moves before the trade deadline and improve our chances to save this season or should we stand pat and save our draft picks?

Exascor 10-29-2013 01:05 PM

Stand pat if you are trying to salvage the season. Trade if you get a decent offer for Ben Tate or someone else we're going to lose anyways.

Lord Bills 10-29-2013 01:11 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
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Originally Posted by Exascor (Post 2239290)
Stand pat if you are trying to salvage the season. Trade if you get a decent offer for Ben Tate or someone else we're going to lose anyways.

what if keenum ends up being the real deal?

I would make a trade because the AFC is wide open this year. Patriots are hurting and very vulnerable and so are the Broncos.

Dutchrudder 10-29-2013 01:13 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Sure, trade away anyone you want for picks. No point in making this team better right now, because every win is one step closer to keeping Rick Smith and Kubiak for another year. I hope they lose out and clean house accordingly, cause we aren't playing for anything this year.

steelbtexan 10-29-2013 01:15 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Yes

Trade vets for draft picks.

Green Bay could use a TE like OD.

HOU-TEX 10-29-2013 01:16 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Kubiak and Schaub for Andrew Luck

Wolf6151 10-29-2013 01:18 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2239295)
Sure, trade away anyone you want for picks. No point in making this team better right now, because every win is one step closer to keeping Rick Smith and Kubiak for another year. I hope they lose out and clean house accordingly, cause we aren't playing for anything this year.

Agree with this. Hold onto our picks or add some by trading away dead wood if possible, clean house at the end of the season, but I'd keep Smith, and then start over with a whole new coaching staff. We've got some really good talent on the team and it shouldn't take a good coaching staff long to get us back in the playoffs, hopefully next year.

Let's also trade Kubiak for a couple hot cheerleaders.

Thorn 10-29-2013 01:19 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 2239300)
Kubiak and Schaub for Andrew Luck

Did the Colts management suddenly become extras on The Walking Dead?

texanhead08 10-29-2013 01:24 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
The only trade we should make is the ones where we acquire extra picks in the next draft. The thought of us mortgaging the future to win a game or two is just dumb.

b0ng 10-29-2013 01:24 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2239297)
Yes

Trade vets for draft picks.

Green Bay could use a TE like OD.

An injured TE? Who would trade draft picks for that exactly?

Here's the problem with trading and the NFL and why you don't really see blockbuster deals happen at the trade deadline:

1) It's really early in the season and there are plenty of teams who are nowhere close to playoff contention who think they still have a shot. They will want to keep the few good players they have on their roster in hopes of pulling a 2012 Vikings and just getting to the wildcard game.

2) Coaches and GM's who do not believe they are on the hot seat (again, because it's still fairly early in the season) are not going to trade away key players for draft picks because that would appear that they are throwing away the season when it's barely half over.

3) The guys who are apparently available (Nicks, Allen, Britt are the ones I hear the most) are either in a position that we just invested a high draft pick in, and are going through a change at a position that is crucial to their involvement on the team (WR's), or, are on the last year of their contract and will be basically an 8 game rental and then you have to re-sign that player (Allen).

Jared Allen is the only guy I have heard bandied about being traded (and really that just started today, and with Seattle) that I would have a passing interest in as Texans fan, and really, I cannot find it in myself to be upset if they "passed over" Jared Allen. I might give up like a conditional 4th or 5th round pick for that particular player, but I doubt the Vikings would just give up Allen for that low of a price.

kingtexan 10-29-2013 01:30 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
The only players we have that anyone would trade for, we need to keep for the future.

Not a feasible idea ...

Exascor 10-29-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Bills (Post 2239293)
what if keenum ends up being the real deal?

I would make a trade because the AFC is wide open this year. Patriots are hurting and very vulnerable and so are the Broncos.

If Keenum ends up being the real deal, great. Actually awesome. I still wouldn't trade picks away to improve this year. Take a chance with the young players. Hope some shine and plug holes for next year. The only exception being a right tackle that would stay for a few years.

I still can't understand fans that want the team to lose when there is still a chance at the playoffs. Blows my mind...

Nawzer 10-29-2013 01:36 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
I'd like to trade Kubiak for some Popeye's chicken. But I don't think they'll agree.

bigmck 10-29-2013 01:39 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2239295)
Sure, trade away anyone you want for picks. No point in making this team better right now, because every win is one step closer to keeping Rick Smith and Kubiak for another year. I hope they lose out and clean house accordingly, cause we aren't playing for anything this year.

Yes, this.

Lord Bills 10-29-2013 01:41 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exascor (Post 2239314)
If Keenum ends up being the real deal, great. Actually awesome. I still wouldn't trade picks away to improve this year. Take a chance with the young players. Hope some shine and plug holes for next year. The only exception being a right tackle that would stay for a few years.

I still can't understand fans that want the team to lose when there is still a chance at the playoffs. Blows my mind...

So if there's a chance to make the playoffs and your new quarterback ends up being the real deal, why wouldnt you take a chance on sacrificing some draft picks that could or could not work out in future order to save the season and acquire players who are proven?

The future isnt promised to anyone. The AFC is wide openn this year. I think a trade for a proven talented linebacker from a losing team could do wonders.

Put schaub on the market, see if anybody bites. Sacrifice some draft picks if you could talk a losing team into parting ways with a really talented player.

dalemurphy 10-29-2013 01:45 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Bills (Post 2239319)
So if there's a chance to make the playoffs and your new quarterback ends up being the real deal, why wouldnt you take a chance on sacrificing some draft picks that could or could not work out in future order to save the season and acquire players who are proven?

The future isnt promised to anyone. The AFC is wide openn this year. I think a trade for a proven talented linebacker from a losing team could do wonders.

Put schaub on the market, see if anybody bites. Sacrifice some draft picks if you could talk a losing team into parting ways with a really talented player.

Nobody is going to trade for a QB in the middle of the season to help them win now. Especially given that he is injured... Even if the system were similar enough for him to understand, he would have no timing with receivers, etc... CRAZY idea that will never happen!... and why would a "losing team" give up draft picks for a limited athlete at QB on the back side of his career- in the midst of possibly significant injury issues?

phantom17 10-29-2013 01:47 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
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Originally Posted by Nawzer (Post 2239316)
I'd like to trade Kubiak for some Popeye's chicken. But I don't think they'll agree.


If not, maybe KFC!:wadepalm:

Exascor 10-29-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Bills (Post 2239319)
So if there's a chance to make the playoffs and your new quarterback ends up being the real deal, why wouldnt you take a chance on sacrificing some draft picks that could or could not work out in future order to save the season and acquire players who are proven?

The future isnt promised to anyone. The AFC is wide openn this year. I think a trade for a proven talented linebacker from a losing team could do wonders.

Put schaub on the market, see if anybody bites. Sacrifice some draft picks if you could talk a losing team into parting ways with a really talented player.

First the mountain the Texans have to climb is very, very steep. This team doesn't need a player to fix what happened over the first 7 games. Players just need to play better. No more dumb penalties at crucial times. No more holding blocks for 2 seconds then releasing. The only exception is at QB and Keenum is the attempt at correcting that.

Schaub really can't be traded. We'd have to restructure 2-3 contacts just to trade him.

Lord Bills 10-29-2013 01:53 PM

Re: Should the Texans Make A Trade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dalemurphy (Post 2239320)
Nobody is going to trade for a QB in the middle of the season to help them win now. Especially given that he is injured... Even if the system were similar enough for him to understand, he would have no timing with receivers, etc... CRAZY idea that will never happen!... and why would a "losing team" give up draft picks for a limited athlete at QB on the back side of his career- in the midst of possibly significant injury issues?

but according to kubiak schaub is healthy. :kubepalm:

He's only 32 and a change of scenery could do him wonders. there are what 8-9 games left in the season, if you're not gonna bring him back next year, dangle him out there and see if anybody bites.

What is it with this franchise and fanbase where you dont even want to give yourself a chance to find out?

Section516 10-29-2013 02:07 PM

Of there's a RT from a similar scheme, I'd take him.. We need someone who can stop giving open access to our qbs


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