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Oilersfan96 10-24-2013 12:54 AM

Lets get back the Oilers
 
Starting a petition to get back the the rights to the Oilers name, Uniforms and records. We'll have our history back, be able to hang earl and moons jerseys among others as well as use the oilers throwback jerseys. I wish we could go back to being the oilers instead of the texans but thats unlikely. Please email, and share this on FB, Twitter etc etc. Lets spread the word and get back whats ours.

https://www.change.org/petitions/ten...n-texans#share

Lurvinator11 10-24-2013 12:55 AM

Re: Lets get back the Oilers
 
No. As much as we would love it, the Texans are their own franchise.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the titans org won't let go of that history.

Oilersfan96 10-24-2013 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurvinator11 (Post 2237327)
No. As much as we would love it, the Texans are their own franchise.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the titans org won't let go of that history.

This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

Carr Bombed 10-24-2013 01:08 AM

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The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

Lurvinator11 10-24-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237329)
This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

I know it's not to replace the Texans. But what your suggesting is adding the Houston portion of the Oilers franchise to the Texans, and honoring them at Texans games and what not.

I seriously doubt the Titans org will ever go for an idea like this. Despite the fact that we loved the oilers, they have moved on, and I'd have to assume a good amount of our fan base has moved on as well. Sure we hate Bud for what he did, but once again our franchise is different from their franchise.

Now, honoring the oilers in some sort of sports museum here in Houston would be an awesome idea. I could actually see that happening, but as far as actually using names and players here at the Texans games, I just don't see that.

Plus, The Astros had a pretty big following as well. So I wouldn't go as far as to say the Oilers are the only reason Houston has any major league team. I mean, people were calling for the Astros to become a team back in the 50's when they were the Houston Buffs, a minor league team for the St. Louis Cardinals.

Brisco_County 10-24-2013 01:09 AM

Re: Lets get back the Oilers
 
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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237329)
This isnt to replace the texans. Its to give us back our records, throwbacks ect. They belong to the city of Houston. The Oilers are the reason Houston has any major league teams. They meant more to this city than any team has or likely ever will.

That's great. What's in it for the Titans owners?

Oilersfan96 10-24-2013 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brisco_County (Post 2237333)
That's great. What's in it for the Titans owners?

Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

Lurvinator11 10-24-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237334)
Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

So why didn't Indy give the rights of the Colts back to Baltimore?

I mean, they didn't do it, so why should the Titans?

Carr Bombed 10-24-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237334)
Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

That's because their owner, despite the fact that he moved the team.. still had a hint of class. Unlike Bud and Irsay who packed up and moved his team under the cover of darkness during a snow storm.

Oilersfan96 10-24-2013 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr Bombed (Post 2237330)
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

Just because you have a big market doesn't mean people are going to support a team. We dont have a pro hockey team do we? nope. The oilers proved that Houston Could draw people into stadiums. From that we proved we could have major league teams.

Vance87 10-24-2013 01:28 AM

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Meh. Cleveland got their history back and they suck. Maybe the Browns name is cursed, maybe the Oilers name is cursed.

Oilersfan96 10-24-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurvinator11 (Post 2237337)
So why didn't Indy give the rights of the Colts back to Baltimore?

I mean, they didn't do it, so why should the Titans?

Because the colts didn't change their name.... They are still the Colts.

Carr Bombed 10-24-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237341)
Just because you have a big market doesn't mean people are going to support a team. We dont have a pro hockey team do we? nope. The oilers proved that Houston Could draw people into stadiums. From that we proved we could have major league teams.

LOL, your argument that Houston wouldn't of had another sports team is because we don't have a NHL team? Who cares if they don't have a NHL team, this isn't really a hockey town is it? And Houston still was a front runner to land the Penguins before Mario Lemieux stepped in and saved the franchise.

With all the movement of sports teams throughout the last couple of decades (to even small markets that can barely support them) you're crazy if you think the 4th largest city in America wouldn't be able to land a major sports team. The Oilers being here are not the only reason why we have pro baseball, pro basketball, and pro soccer,... and another pro football team. And know they're not here because the "Oilers proved the citizens would support a pro team". Big market cities get pro teams, because pro teams are owned by successful business men. Successful business men want to do business in major markets.

Norg 10-24-2013 01:47 AM

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TBO I don't want da history it left to ten sio year


Texans till I die is all I care about

Oilersfan96 10-24-2013 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr Bombed (Post 2237344)
LOL, your argument that Houston wouldn't of had another sports team is because we don't have a NHL team? Who cares if they don't have a NHL team, this isn't really a hockey town is it? And Houston still was a front runner to land the Penguins before Mario Lemieux stepped in and saved the franchise.

With all the movement of sports teams throughout the last couple of decades (to even small markets that can barely support them) you're crazy if you think the 4th largest city in America wouldn't be able to land a major sports team. The Oilers being here are not the only reason why we have pro baseball, pro basketball, and pro soccer,... and another pro football team. And know they're not here because the "Oilers proved the citizens would support a pro team". Big market cities get pro teams, because pro teams are owned by successful business men. Successful business men want to do business in major markets.

Yes, and Im sure we would might still have had other franchises without the oilers but how often does the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA and other create expansions. Answer is not all that often and without what the oilers were able to do in the AFL, we would likely not have the Pro teams we have now. You say big market cities get pro teams... So then why didn't LA get the football team. They have the 2nd biggest TV market... by your logic we shoudn't have got the Texans since we are something like 9th or 10th on that list. Big market isn't everything its where will I make the most money. If nobody in that city can prove worthy of it then they wont get it. Just like why we don't have a NHL team. Before the Oilers left McNair was trying to bid on a Houston NHL team. The NHL shot us down for obvious reasons. Who knows though, had we got a team and the oilers left, McNair would probably not had pursued a Houston Expansion team to the NFL and we may not have the Texans.

infantrycak 10-24-2013 01:57 AM

Re: Lets get back the Oilers
 
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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237334)
Why would there have to be something for the titans owner? When the browns moved to Cleveland and became the ravens they gave back the rights to the browns to cleveland so that one day when they got a new team they could continue.

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Originally Posted by Carr Bombed (Post 2237339)
That's because their owner, despite the fact that he moved the team.. still had a hint of class. Unlike Bud and Irsay who packed up and moved his team under the cover of darkness during a snow storm.

Baltimore didn't give anything back and it wasn't about class. A deal was cut to have the players of an existing team move and be deemed a new team and Cleveland was promised a team and given the history. If they hadn't left the history, the NFL wasn't going to let it happen.

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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237347)
So then why didn't LA get the football team.

C'mon, that argument doesn't even make sense. LA has repeatedly had franchises. Not holding onto is not the same as not getting.

They have had the Los Angeles Chargers, Rams and Raiders. Los Angeles was awarded the 32nd franchise but couldn't meet the conditions and so Houston got the Texans.

Carr Bombed 10-24-2013 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Oilersfan96 (Post 2237347)
Yes, and Im sure we would might still have had other franchises without the oilers but how often does the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA and other create expansions. Answer is not all that often and without what the oilers were able to do in the AFL, we would likely not have the Pro teams we have now. You say big market cities get pro teams... So then why didn't LA get the football team. They have the 2nd biggest TV market... by your logic we shoudn't have got the Texans since we are something like 9th or 10th on that list. Big market isn't everything its where will I make the most money. If nobody in that city don't prove worthy of it then they wont get it. Just like why we don't have a NHL team. Before the Oilers left McNair was trying to bid on a Houston NHL team. The NHL shot us down for obvious reasons. Who knows though, had we got a team and the oilers left, McNair would probably not had pursued a Houston Expansion team to the NFL and we may not have the Texans.

Los Angeles has the Lakers, the Clippers, the Dodgers, the Angels, the Kings, and the Galaxy (6 pro teams).. They've had the Rams and the Raiders.. and the NFL is still hell bent on getting another NFL team back into that city even if they'll have to eventually rip another team away from a smaller city (Jacksonville).

So yes again.. big market cities get pro teams. It is completely crazy to think Houston wouldn't be playing any pro major league ball if the Oilers never existed.

As far as this petition, the entire city could sign it and the Titans would just laugh.. no way in hell would they ever hand over their history (even though it came in another city) to a divisional rival. No way at all.

Txn_in_FL 10-24-2013 02:44 AM

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Why does this continue to be an issue with people? I grew up on the Oilers and hated it when they left, but geez... it's over man. It was great while it lasted. Actually, was it really that great? Having your heart snatched out of your chest constantly isn't something I recall as being too much fun.

It would have been great if they got the rights to everything, but in the end would it have been that great? I think the clean break that happened is what was needed. I only wish they would tear the dome down and completely exorcise the demons.

To be honest, now that Bud isn't in the picture, my rage towards the Titans has strangely subsided.

Nitrofish 10-24-2013 07:25 AM

Re: Lets get back the Oilers
 
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Originally Posted by Carr Bombed (Post 2237330)
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

WOW! Something you and I can finally agree on, oh wait. You put me on ignore didn't you. lol

Exascor 10-24-2013 07:30 AM

Re: Lets get back the Oilers
 
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Originally Posted by Carr Bombed (Post 2237330)
The Oilers are NOT the reason why this city has any other major sports team, that's just ludicrous. Houston is not some small market podunk town, they are a big market city and would've had multiple teams with or without the existence of the Oilers.. hence why they even got a 2nd chance at a NFL team.

As far as bringing the Oilers back.. lets not, that shipped has already sailed. Bud took it with him and those records now belong in Tenn. We'll still own the memories though.

This. :fans:


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