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Texian 10-22-2013 12:25 PM

Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
Currently Texans projected to pick in the #7-#12 Vicinity.

At the end of the 2013 season Bob McNair fires Kubiak and Smith.

Hires Eric Decosta as GM who hires HC.

Mid Season Mock

Rd 1. C. J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama, 6021, 232 (up grades OLB, Reed moves to ILB)
Rd 2. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford, 6055, 261 (replaces Ninja)
Rd 3. A. J. McCarron, QB, Alabama, 6032, 214 (replaces Schaub)
Rd 4. JaWuan James, OT, Tennessee, 6056, 318 (replaces Newton)
Rd 5. Marcus Williams CB, N. Dakota St., 5110, 197 (upgrades secondary)
Rd 6. Storm Johnson, RB, Cent. Florida, 6001, 218 (replaces Tate)
Rd 7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas, 6034, 302 (replaces Smith)

Conventional Wisdom is a rookie QB needs 20 starts in the NFL before you truly know what you have. 2014 gives Texans and Keenum his 20 starts. Schaub is released for cap reasons. McCarron is brought in as a backup and also a chance to be a starter. If all fails Texans go all in for a Franchise QB in 2015. At this time I do expect most underclassman QB to return to school. I expect only 1 or 2 to come out. If that happens 2015 will be a better year for QBs than 2014.

Texans have lost there pass rush, this is improved with Mosley and Murphy. Replaces Ninja who becomes a FA and cap casualty and upgrades OLB.

Texian 10-27-2013 10:10 AM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
I have to revise my mid season mock. Last night Trent Murphy had a JJ Watt kind of game. Not only will Murphy be a 1st rd pick he could also now become a top 10 pick. For the time being I will switch Murphy and Mosley.

Rd 1. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford, 6055, 261 (replaces Ninja)
Rd 2. C. J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama, 6021, 232 (up grades OLB, Reed moves to ILB)
Rd 3. A. J. McCarron, QB, Alabama, 6032, 214 (replaces Schaub)
Rd 4. JaWuan James, OT, Tennessee, 6056, 318 (replaces Newton)
Rd 5. Marcus Williams CB, N. Dakota St., 5110, 197 (upgrades secondary)
Rd 6. Storm Johnson, RB, Cent. Florida, 6001, 218 (replaces Tate)
Rd 7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas, 6034, 302 (replaces Smith)

Honoring Earl 34 10-27-2013 11:20 AM

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Murphy better put on at least 25 lbs to play a 5 . As far as Mosley and McCarron go , Bama high picks aren't panning out so well . Unless of course they go to 4-3 , then Murphy may play opposite of JJ .

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-foo...090313aab.html

Texian 10-27-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2238363)
Murphy better put on at least 25 lbs to play a 5 . As far as Mosley and McCarron go , Bama high picks aren't panning out so well . Unless of course they go to 4-3 , then Murphy may play opposite of JJ .

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-foo...090313aab.html

Murphy is about the same size as JJ Watt and bigger than Ninja.

beerlover 10-27-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2238377)
Murphy is about the same size as JJ Watt and bigger than Ninja.

he's not close to JJ 6-6- 292 & still smaller than Ninja when he came out 6-4 274.

Texian 10-27-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2238381)
he's not close to JJ 6-6- 292 & still smaller than Ninja when he came out 6-4 274.

Trent Murphy is 6055 and weighs 290 lbs. The 261 lbs that you often see listed in his bio is what Murph weighed when he arrived at Stanford. Last night announcers saying he was 290. Trent played in a 4 man front with his hand in the dirt the whole game. Come Feb I would bet that Trent Murphy will closer to 209 than 260. Physically he's a JJ Watt clone.

beerlover 10-27-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2238412)
Trent Murphy is 6055 and weighs 290 lbs. The 261 lbs that you often see listed in his bio is what Murph weighed when he arrived at Stanford. Last night announcers saying he was 290. Trent played in a 4 man front with his hand in the dirt the whole game. Come Feb I would bet that Trent Murphy will closer to 209 than 260. Physically he's a JJ Watt clone.

I trust ourlads scouting service who report Trent is 6050 261 as of this September. If in fact he has added 30lbs since then without losing a step, yeah that would qualify as Watt-Esq.

steelbtexan 10-27-2013 04:04 PM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2236343)
Currently Texans projected to pick in the #7-#12 Vicinity.

At the end of the 2013 season Bob McNair fires Kubiak and Smith.

Hires Eric Decosta as GM who hires HC.

Mid Season Mock

Rd 1. C. J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama, 6021, 232 (up grades OLB, Reed moves to ILB)
Rd 2. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford, 6055, 261 (replaces Ninja)
Rd 3. A. J. McCarron, QB, Alabama, 6032, 214 (replaces Schaub)
Rd 4. JaWuan James, OT, Tennessee, 6056, 318 (replaces Newton)
Rd 5. Marcus Williams CB, N. Dakota St., 5110, 197 (upgrades secondary)
Rd 6. Storm Johnson, RB, Cent. Florida, 6001, 218 (replaces Tate)
Rd 7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas, 6034, 302 (replaces Smith)

Conventional Wisdom is a rookie QB needs 20 starts in the NFL before you truly know what you have. 2014 gives Texans and Keenum his 20 starts. Schaub is released for cap reasons. McCarron is brought in as a backup and also a chance to be a starter. If all fails Texans go all in for a Franchise QB in 2015. At this time I do expect most underclassman QB to return to school. I expect only 1 or 2 to come out. If that happens 2015 will be a better year for QBs than 2014.

Texans have lost there pass rush, this is improved with Mosley and Murphy. Replaces Ninja who becomes a FA and cap casualty and upgrades OLB.

Give me Rd.1 Nix Rd.2 Skov, this improves the middle of the Texans defense and Nix will require double teams. That will help take pressure off of Watt.

BTW, the Texans have the 3rd worst defense in the NFL at stopping the run between the tackles.

Nix can become this yrs Loutelliuli. (SP?)

Love the rest of the mock and would trade up to pick James. Not familiar with Williams.

thunderkyss 10-27-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2238459)
I trust ourlads scouting service who report Trent is 6050 261 as of this September. If in fact he has added 30lbs since then without losing a step, yeah that would qualify as Watt-Esq.

Even at 261, I wouldn't be opposed to grabbing him.

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKf8QsA6-E&noredirect=1

He looks like an OLB. If we were to go with Texian's draft & select an OLB with our first two picks... I wouldn't have an issue with that.

McCarren in the third..... I like it.

But with Earl Mitchell & Antonio as free agents, I'd like to spend a few picks on some big bodies. We need some help on the OL, not saying we don't. But we've got Brennan who should have took the whole year off anyway, & Quiz & I'd look for some young FAs out there that can get us by for another year.

Fred 10-27-2013 10:54 PM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2236343)
Currently Texans projected to pick in the #7-#12 Vicinity.

Mid Season Mock

Rd 1. C. J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama, 6021, 232 (up grades OLB, Reed moves to ILB)
Rd 2. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford, 6055, 261 (replaces Ninja)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2238352)
I have to revise my mid season mock. Last night Trent Murphy had a JJ Watt kind of game. Not only will Murphy be a 1st rd pick he could also now become a top 10 pick. For the time being I will switch Murphy and Mosley.

Rd 1. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford, 6055, 261 (replaces Ninja)
Rd 2. C. J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama, 6021, 232 (up grades OLB, Reed moves to ILB)

This is why all these one team mocks are useless. You need to revise because your original 2nd rounder will now need to be nabbed in the early 1st round. That is fine.

But then, to replace him in the 2nd round a player you "expect" to be available is ... the same guy you used a top 12 pick on less than a week before! Either Mosley won't be available in the 2nd round, or the idea of picking him in the first round was a colossal reach!

Show all 32 teams and why you think Mosley is the best value available at ~ pick 10 yet will still be available at ~ pick 42. If you can't show who you think goes in between picks 10 and 42 then you are just throwing out a magical wish list of 7 players, heck, even I can do that.

TexansSeminole 10-27-2013 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2238636)
This is why all these one team mocks are useless. You need to revise because your original 2nd rounder will now need to be nabbed in the early 1st round. That is fine.

But then, to replace him in the 2nd round a player you "expect" to be available is ... the same guy you used a top 12 pick on less than a week before! Either Mosley won't be available in the 2nd round, or the idea of picking him in the first round was a colossal reach!

Show all 32 teams and why you think Mosley is the best value available at ~ pick 10 yet will still be available at ~ pick 42. If you can't show who you think goes in between picks 10 and 42 then you are just throwing out a magical wish list of 7 players, heck, even I can do that.

We see that it bothers you.

Texian 10-27-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TexansSeminole (Post 2238639)
We see that it bothers you.

I kind of agree with Fred it was a lackadaisical and poor effort on my part. Watching the Standford game I kind of got carried away. I'll do better next time, promise.

TexansSeminole 10-28-2013 12:08 AM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2238643)
I kind of agree with Fred it was a lackadaisical and poor effort on my part. Watching the Standford game I kind of got carried away. I'll do better next time, promise.

Meh, it's all projection at this point. Things change rapidly as well. Nothing is a poor effort, to be honest. Players drop and skyrocket even on draft day.

thunderkyss 10-28-2013 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TexansSeminole (Post 2238659)
Meh, it's all projection at this point. Things change rapidly as well. Nothing is a poor effort, to be honest. Players drop and skyrocket even on draft day.

Agreed. I'm too lazy to do my own, so...

Texn4life 10-28-2013 01:08 AM

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I actually like your original mock........ My only question mark is whether Mosley is a fit in a 3-4 defense.

badboy 10-28-2013 11:51 AM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2238636)
This is why all these one team mocks are useless. You need to revise because your original 2nd rounder will now need to be nabbed in the early 1st round. That is fine.

But then, to replace him in the 2nd round a player you "expect" to be available is ... the same guy you used a top 12 pick on less than a week before! Either Mosley won't be available in the 2nd round, or the idea of picking him in the first round was a colossal reach!

Show all 32 teams and why you think Mosley is the best value available at ~ pick 10 yet will still be available at ~ pick 42. If you can't show who you think goes in between picks 10 and 42 then you are just throwing out a magical wish list of 7 players, heck, even I can do that.

Some good points on Mosely dropping to second round which imo was OP wanting to keep him so I can let it slide. BTW, where is you mock effort?

Texian 11-01-2013 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2238643)
I kind of agree with Fred it was a lackadaisical and poor effort on my part. Watching the Standford game I kind of got carried away. I'll do better next time, promise.

After such a poor effort that was done without much thought and mailed in, here is my revised mock that was done with much more effort and thought:

Assuming the Texans pick in the Top 10:

Rd 1. Johnny Manziel, QB, 6001, 211, Texas A&M
Rd 2. Austin Sefarin-Jenkins, TE, 6055, 276, Washington
Rd 3. Jeremy Attaochu, OLB, 6026, 242, Georgia Tech
Rd 4. Marcus Williams, CB, 5110, 197, N Dakota State
Rd 5. Bruce Gaston, NT, 6021, 310, Purdue
Rd 6. Storm Johnson, RB, 6001, 215, Central Florida
Rd 7. Trey Hopkins, OG, 6034, 300, Texas

Honoring Earl 34 11-01-2013 01:04 PM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2240347)
After such a poor effort that was done without much thought and mailed in, here is my revised mock that was done with much more effort and thought:

Assuming the Texans pick in the Top 10:

Rd 1. Johnny Manziel, QB, 6001, 211, Texas A&M
Rd 2. Austin Sefarin-Jenkins, TE, 6055, 276, Washington
Rd 3. Jeremy Attaochu, OLB, 6026, 242, Georgia Tech
Rd 4. Marcus Williams, CB, 5110, 197, N Dakota State
Rd 5. Bruce Gaston, NT, 6021, 310, Purdue
Rd 6. Storm Johnson, RB, 6001, 215, Central Florida
Rd 7. Trey Hopkins, OG, 6034, 300, Texas

There's never poor efforts . What is true is there's about 10 folks going to Baskin & Robbins and ordering the ice cream of their choice . Dang ... ice cream sounds good .

NCTexan 11-01-2013 01:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2240347)
Rd 2. Austin Sefarin-Jenkins, TE, 6055, 276, Washington

If Erik Ebron, UNC is there at this pick, do you take him instead?

Just out of curiosity. I think Ebron is gone by this point though.

badboy 11-01-2013 02:17 PM

Re: Texian's Mid Season Mock Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2240347)
After such a poor effort that was done without much thought and mailed in, here is my revised mock that was done with much more effort and thought:

Assuming the Texans pick in the Top 10:

Rd 1. Johnny Manziel, QB, 6001, 211, Texas A&M
Rd 2. Austin Sefarin-Jenkins, TE, 6055, 276, Washington
Rd 3. Jeremy Attaochu, OLB, 6026, 242, Georgia Tech
Rd 4. Marcus Williams, CB, 5110, 197, N Dakota State
Rd 5. Bruce Gaston, NT, 6021, 310, Purdue
Rd 6. Storm Johnson, RB, 6001, 215, Central Florida
Rd 7. Trey Hopkins, OG, 6034, 300, Texas

Interested in why no OT. Do you think Newton gets better, Williams returns or are you moving Q to RT? If the latter, I don't see Hopkins starting. Please expound.

Also, manziel has been beaten up bad this season, do you think he will survive NFL or do you see him playing different style than 1-2-3 run?


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