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Honoring Earl 34 10-14-2013 12:13 PM

Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
This is my 2014 projection using the Walter as a reference to cherry pick and going back to the 4-3 . http://walterfootball.com/draft2014charlie.php If they're not listed , they may not be on the team . I'm trading Tate .

Right now I'm leaning toward Mike Zimmer or Jack Del Rio as coach .

Offense
LWR 80 JOHNSON, ANDRE
RWR 10 Hopkins, DeAndre 11 Posey, DeVier
LT 76 Brown, Duane
LG Gabe Jackson, G 2nd pick
C 55 MYERS, CHRIS
RG 79 Brooks, Brandon
RT Brennan Williams
TE 88 Graham, Garrett
QB Tajh Boyd 1st rd pick 7 Keenum, Case
FB J.C. Copeland,
RB 23 Foster, Arian 41 Wood, Cierre

Defense
LDE Watt, JJ
DT Earl Mitchell
DT DeAndre Coleman, 3rd rd
RDE 94 Whitney Mercilus , Sam Montgomery
SLB 58 Cushing, Brian
ILB Shayne Skov
WLB Willie Jefferson
LCB 25 Kareem Jackson
SS 38 MANNING, DANIEAL
FS 36 Swearinger, DJ
RCB

Wolf6151 10-14-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
Why would we switch back to a 4-3 defense when we have one of the best defenses in the NFL now? Also I don't want Boyd as a QB, currently very overrated IMO.

Also I doubt seriously if Brennan Williams ever plays a down for us much less being the starter at RT.

Love the Copeland pick.

Honoring Earl 34 10-14-2013 02:19 PM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2229631)
Why would we switch back to a 4-3 defense when we have one of the best defenses in the NFL now? Also I don't want Boyd as a QB, currently very overrated IMO.

Also I doubt seriously if Brennan Williams ever plays a down for us much less being the starter at RT.

Love the Copeland pick.

They can't stop anybody once inside the 20 , they are way overrated . They do not have the two most important components of a 3-4 , beast NG and stud OLB . That's also the two hardest positions , to find and it would cost high draft picks .

Texian 10-18-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2229590)
Right now I'm leaning toward Mike Zimmer or Jack Del Rio as coach .

Why?

Honoring Earl 34 10-19-2013 10:41 PM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2232318)
Why?

Del Rio because he's already made his mistakes much like Bill Belichick did in Cleveland before going to New England . That's my theory anyway .

I think Zimmer is a very under the radar guy but is very good .

Texian 10-20-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2232839)
Del Rio because he's already made his mistakes much like Bill Belichick did in Cleveland before going to New England . That's my theory anyway .

I think Zimmer is a very under the radar guy but is very good .

IMHO....Del Rio had 9 seasons in Jax, enough time for me. RE. Zimmer: I have always liked Zimmer as a DC, a Red Flag for me on Zimmer is he has interviewed for Head Coach half a dozen times, he must not interview well.....if I had to go with a former HC, for me it would be Ken Whisenhunt but prefer coordinators, Bevell, Quinn and McDermott. #1 choice is David Shaw.

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 09:03 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
Still ok with Bill O'Brien and I'm gonna hire Munchak as the OL coach the minute he's cut .

1. Teddy
2. Gabe Jackson
3 .C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa

Playoffs 12-13-2013 09:49 AM

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Why use a 1st on Boyd if he'll be there for our 2nd round selection?

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2268186)
Why use a 1st on Boyd if he'll be there for our 2nd round selection?

I think Teddy is better . I also think a run of QBs is possible and you may not get who you want .

Playoffs 12-13-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2268203)
I think Teddy is better . I also think a run of QBs is possible and you may not get who you want .

Ahh, I see now... original post was 10/14.

eriadoc 12-13-2013 10:35 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
If you're leaving Quessenberry off deliberately, I have to consider you mistaken.

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 10:36 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
I was looking at this list as a reference . J Foosball used to be on it but not anymore .

http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-colleg...t/2014/2356481

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 10:37 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by eriadoc (Post 2268207)
If you're leaving Quessenberry off deliberately, I have to consider you mistaken.

I don't think a 6th round pick is a cure all .

eriadoc 12-13-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2268209)
I don't think a 6th round pick is a cure all .

I don't count any draft pick as a cure all, but Q was playing better than any offensive lineman in TC/Preseason besides Brown before he got injured. He is going to lock up that LG position.

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eriadoc (Post 2268215)
I don't count any draft pick as a cure all, but Q was playing better than any offensive lineman in TC/Preseason besides Brown before he got injured. He is going to lock up that LG position.

Not if they go away from the ZBS . Plus ... Q wasn't playing with the starters was he ?

eriadoc 12-13-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2268216)
Not if they go away from the ZBS . Plus ... Q wasn't playing with the starters was he ?

The stuff that Q was doing well wasn't dependent upon zone blocking. He was just technically sound across the board. He was playing behind Ben Jones who was (and still is) fkn terrible. Hear me now and believe me later, Q is going to lock that position down.

ETA - I'm not saying don't draft G. I think competition across the board is great for every position, and I'm all about building the trenches. Just saying don't sleep on Q.

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 11:05 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by eriadoc (Post 2268218)
The stuff that Q was doing well wasn't dependent upon zone blocking. He was just technically sound across the board. He was playing behind Ben Jones who was (and still is) fkn terrible. Hear me now and believe me later, Q is going to lock that position down.

ETA - I'm not saying don't draft G. I think competition across the board is great for every position, and I'm all about building the trenches. Just saying don't sleep on Q.

If they believe he can do it then it's icing on the cake . I don't believe Jones can . If Q and Brennan Williams can play then that's great , the Texans can devote high picks to other gaping holes .

eriadoc 12-13-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2268220)
If they believe he can do it then it's icing on the cake . I don't believe Jones can . If Q and Brennan Williams can play then that's great , the Texans can devote high picks to other gaping holes .

I don't believe Jones should be in the NFL, period. I do not like that guy's play at all. Not sure on Williams. Honestly, I thought Q had the 2nd or 3rd best showing of any OLman in preseason. I am all for drafting OL, though. Still not sold on Brandon Brooks, and Newton should be ahead of Jones in the unemployment line.

Honoring Earl 34 12-13-2013 11:26 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by eriadoc (Post 2268225)
I don't believe Jones should be in the NFL, period. I do not like that guy's play at all. Not sure on Williams. Honestly, I thought Q had the 2nd or 3rd best showing of any OLman in preseason. I am all for drafting OL, though. Still not sold on Brandon Brooks, and Newton should be ahead of Jones in the unemployment line.

I think Brooks is not a ZB guy . He's a good enough athlete to try but I think he would be better in a power scheme .

bhsman 12-13-2013 11:27 AM

Re: Earl's Why Not 180 in 2014 .
 
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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2268208)
I was looking at this list as a reference . J Foosball used to be on it but not anymore .

http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-colleg...t/2014/2356481

Clowney at 7th overall feels a little low but I'll admit a little bias. It would make a Barr pick more reasonable, though.


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