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PockyAF 09-30-2013 06:25 PM

Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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The Texans threw the game away on Sunday when quarterback Matt Schaub threw an awful pass to Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman, which Sherman returned 58 yards for a touchdown late in the fourth quarter. On Monday, Texans coach Gary Kubiak acknowledged that it was a terrible play all around but said Schaub had to run it because that’s the play that was called.

Asked if Schaub had the freedom to audible out of that play, Kubiak answered, “No, once we called it, started the motion, it was game on. So we just had a very, very poor play like I told you.”


That answer is hard to understand: If Schaub saw that the play wasn’t going to work, why didn’t he have the authority to call an audible? And if he didn’t have the authority to call an audible, what about calling timeout? Or taking delay of game and calling a different play after the five-yard penalty? Or if he absolutely had to run the play, why not throw the ball out of bounds, or take a sack, or take a knee? Anything would have been better than a pick-six.

But the fact that Kubiak said he didn’t give Schaub the authority to call an audible suggests that Kubiak doesn’t have a lot of confidence in Schaub’s decision making. Asked about Schaub being on a short leash, Kubiak answered, “How short of a leash is he on? He’s our quarterback. Like I said, we’ve all got to do things a little better.”


One thing the Texans need to do better is figure out how to avoid any more “very, very poor plays.” Those are the plays that lose games.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ery-poor-play/

Vinny 09-30-2013 08:06 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
modern day offensive coaching guru has a system where one can't change the play in a bad situation. Brilliant stuff. La Porte HS QB's have a better system than this for being in a bad play.

RTP2110 09-30-2013 08:09 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
I dunno man, I think that if I'm Schaub in that situation, a little subordination is in order. Common sense should trump flawed protocol.

gwallaia 09-30-2013 08:10 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
Kubiak is a ****ing idiot.

Trap_Star 09-30-2013 08:11 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 2219764)
modern day offensive coaching guru has a system where one can't change the play in a bad situation. Brilliant stuff.

:kubepalm: he should be f'n embarrassed for even admitting that.

Vinny 09-30-2013 08:14 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
I think it's time for Bob to call an audible on the Coach. I would say that it's time for Rick Smith to call an audible but that's laughable since Rick Smith isn't allowed to call an audible either.

bOODRO87 09-30-2013 08:16 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
How do you stay positive after reading that? Seriously. It's no wonder why the well coached teams make us look stupid. Never mind the Broncos, watch us get beaten by the CHIEFS.


This sucks. Bad.

Kaiser Toro 09-30-2013 08:25 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
It sounds more like he is instinctually covering for Schaub, but thereby implicating himself to a fan base that already sees he, Schaub's contract and Rick Smith's incredible UDFA work as the Teflon Trinity.

This team is talented enough to get the result, they just need an organizational structure that has check and balances. The current power structure has been on cruise control since pen went to paper eight years ago.

Hottoddie 09-30-2013 08:25 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
If this is true, that's got to be the stupidest call I've ever heard of. The QB has to have the flexibility to make a change at the last moment. The defense is constantly shifting around before the snap. I guess we now know why Peyton didn't come here. He must've been afraid he'd have to biatch slap Kubiak. :lol:

DocBar 09-30-2013 08:29 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
Or maybe Kubiak knows what he has for a QB and doesn't let him audible because it just isn't a good idea.

PapaL 09-30-2013 08:31 PM

Peyton would've been the best OC on our side of the field. It makes perfect sense now.

Either Schaub is too stupid to audible or Kubes doesn't trust him. Which is it?

PockyAF 09-30-2013 08:31 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 2219773)
I think it's time for Bob to call an audible on the Coach.

Yea, I wish. The jig is up on Kubiak.

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n the locker room after the game, safety Earl Thomas didn’t deflect credit from Sherman. After all, he had to make the interception — his second of the season. But Thomas gave much of the credit to defensive coordinator Dan Quinn for his play call.

Quinn noticed on film that Houston liked to roll out Schaub off play action in short-yardage situations, then have him quickly dump the ball in the flat. So when the Texans faced a third-and-four with about three minutes left, Quinn dialed up a play designed specifically to thwart that.

Quinn had safety Kam Chancellor blitz off the edge, which negated Schaub’s ability to roll out after faking the handoff. He also had Sherman hover in the flat.

After turning and seeing Chancellor in his face, Schaub quickly threw the ball up for grabs to tight end Owen Daniels. Sherman played it perfectly and jumped in front of the pass.

“You’ve got to give credit to the D-coordinator on that one,” Thomas said.

Seattle’s defense had seen that exact play in Friday’s practice when going against the scout-team offense. In practice, Sherman also picked off the pass in the flat.

Defensive end Chris Clemons said Seattle’s defense doesn’t run that play often, but he said Quinn knew what Houston would likely do on that play based on the Texans’ formation and down.

“We had practiced exactly that,” coach Pete Carroll said. “So it was really cool that it happened, but even more so for the poise and athleticism for Sherman to pull it off. It was the way it was supposed to be.”

Sherman, of course, completed the play by taking it 58 yards for a touchdown minus half his footwear.

“It might be the longest return without a shoe in the NFL,” Sherman said. “You got to check that.”
http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawk...ebar30xml.html

Predictable, routined. Kubiak was simply out-coached on that play.





http://www.sports790.com/media/podca...ur-2-23774901/

The guys on 790's thoughts on that play at 45:53

Pollardized 09-30-2013 08:32 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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Originally Posted by Hottoddie (Post 2219783)
If this is true, that's got to be the stupidest call I've ever heard of. The QB has to have the flexibility to make a change at the last moment. The defense is constantly shifting around before the snap. I guess we now know why Peyton didn't come here. He must've been afraid he'd have to biatch slap Kubiak. :lol:

Man, could you imagine the scene on the sideline - Peyton's big forehead headbutting against Gary's perfect 2 bottle of hair spray melon???

Hottoddie 09-30-2013 08:32 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Schaub call audibiles a few years ago when we were the #3 offense in the NFL?

macho grande 09-30-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bOODRO87 (Post 2219776)
It's no wonder why the well coached teams make us look stupid.


This sucks. Bad.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Furthermore I can't believe that schaub wouldn't take it upon himself to change the play. Hell I'm a lowly middle manager and I got the stones to go against the grain when I KNOW that what I'm being asked to do is not helping our long or short term goals. More times than not I'm given kudos afterwards for showing initiative and "making a freaking play".
Schaub's a complete kiss-ass yes man. Ridiculous!

Vinny 09-30-2013 08:34 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
I heard the play by play team say that Schaub is the most blitzed QB in the NFL. No shock since he handles pressure poorly and doesn't stretch the field to make teams pay.

https://twitter.com/djvipsoundz/stat...820672/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVbkzCrCcAA30eL.jpg

Kaiser Toro 09-30-2013 08:35 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
Always a bridesmaid

http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_...23320_t220.jpg

But, never a bride

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHO/AAGV027-1.jpg

***this is material world therapy for a fan that is one step from going ALL CAPS.

Nawzer 09-30-2013 08:35 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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Originally Posted by gwallaia (Post 2219767)
Kubiak is a ****ing idiot.

Welcome to the club.

eriadoc 09-30-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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Originally Posted by DocBar (Post 2219787)
Or maybe Kubiak knows what he has for a QB and doesn't let him audible because it just isn't a good idea.

1.) Preventing him from changing the play hasn't stopped Schaub from giving points to the other team every game this season.

2.) Kubiak hand picked this QB and declares him the starter each season before training camp even comes around. He hasn't drafted a serious challenger to the position, and despite what Yates did in his rookie year, Kubiak never opened up the position for competition.

Here's something to think about:

When Brady came in for Bledsoe, he didn't really tear it up. He did good, but not anything that would elad you to believe he'd become what he became. You think Kubiak would have rolled with him when Bledsoe came back? What about when Bledsoe came into the AFC Championship game and rallied the troops with a key drive to help seal the deal? What about when you consider that Bledsoe had just signed a $100M deal? Personally, I think if Kubiak were the coach of the Pats at that time, Brady would be a footnote to history.

DocBar 09-30-2013 08:38 PM

Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”
 
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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 2219797)
I heard the play by play team say that Schaub is the most blitzed QB in the NFL. No shock since he handles pressure poorly and doesn't stretch the field to make teams pay.

https://twitter.com/djvipsoundz/stat...820672/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVbkzCrCcAA30eL.jpg

I heard them say he was the least blitzed QB. I thought that was because teams didn't need to blitz Schaub to cause happy feet.


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