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EllisUnit 09-23-2013 03:14 AM

Ok everyone just calm down....
 
We started the season red hot last year, we were blowing teams away. Then came the end of the season where we lost 3 out of 4, barely scrapped by the bengals in the play-offs.

We are not playing very good football right now, everyone can see that and yet after 3 games we are still 2-1. Would you rather hit your peak at the start of the season or gain momentum towards the middle/end of the season. Every season the texans lay a big fat goose egg atleast once that makes you say WTF, yesterday was just that.

On the bright side this is not an 8-8 team at best like another thread states. Foster is looking like the old foster again, Watt is still watt, Cushing is playing like a mad man, Our Defense really isnt playing to terrible besides a few big plays. Its really the offense thats making life difficult for them. Reed finally played he got his feet wet and will only get better, which will make the whole secondary better. And despite what we saw yesterday our offense is pretty damn good.

We all wait for the games all week long, we all have expectations so it is no surprise we go out and play bad on Sunday and before you know it we are the new browns to a lot of our fans. Emotions are a funny thing, make you say and think stuff that is clearly not true. And those who are now saying this is a bad team, that is simply not true. We'll be fine !!!

On a side note did anyone else have trouble getting onto TT about half way through the game ?

thunderkyss 09-23-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit (Post 2214885)
We started the season red hot last year, we were blowing teams away. Then came the end of the season where we lost 3 out of 4, barely scrapped by the bengals in the play-offs.

Them Bengals are playing good ball right now. They eeked out a good one against Green Bay yesterday.

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit (Post 2214885)
We are not playing very good football right now, everyone can see that and yet after 3 games we are still 2-1. Would you rather hit your peak at the start of the season or gain momentum towards the middle/end of the season. Every season the texans lay a big fat goose egg atleast once that makes you say WTF, yesterday was just that.

I think I can understand some of the poor outlook a lot of us have. We started out red hot last year, despite glaring problems that did not get fixed as the season went on. We continued to win in spite of those problems, until they caught up with us in December.

Right now, it's hard to see any good will being built to allow for the fall in December & there's little reason to believe the powers that be have what it takes to right the ship.

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit (Post 2214885)
On the bright side this is not an 8-8 team at best like another thread states. Foster is looking like the old foster again, Watt is still watt, Cushing is playing like a mad man, Our Defense really isnt playing to terrible besides a few big plays. Its really the offense thats making life difficult for them. Reed finally played he got his feet wet and will only get better, which will make the whole secondary better. And despite what we saw yesterday our offense is pretty damn good.

That's another thing. It's not the offense. When we needed to, we've been able to march the ball down the field with relative ease. The problem, is that we don't play like that until we "need" to.

We should want to get down the field & score on every possession. You'd think the players & coaches know that, but at a very high level (even a layman can see it) there is a distinct difference between when we need to & when we want to. The Texans need to find a way to close that gap.

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit (Post 2214885)
We all wait for the games all week long, we all have expectations so it is no surprise we go out and play bad on Sunday and before you know it we are the new browns to a lot of our fans. Emotions are a funny thing, make you say and think stuff that is clearly not true. And those who are now saying this is a bad team, that is simply not true. We'll be fine !!!

I admire your support of your team. We need more like you. But is that the "fan" talking? Honest question, have you ever seen this team play better at the end of the season than it did at the beginning? Not beating up on the weaker teams at the end of the schedule, or winning games the other team couldn't care less about? I mean actually playing better football... the eyeball test.

It's been a long time since I've actually seen them play better in December than they did in September. I believe most of us know it, even though we're saying it in different ways, that's what upsets us.

HTown2ATX 09-23-2013 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit (Post 2214885)
On a side note did anyone else have trouble getting onto TT about half way through the game ?

Yeah, Chrome kept telling me for a while it couldn't load TT then it would for a split second then it would disappear again. I just assumed the diarrhea Schaub was ejecting on the field hit the servers too. Really need to get him those Sheilds and Guards soon.

http://gaia.adage.com/images/bin/ima...sa-depends.jpg

While I also agree it's not time to panic full bore yet. It's laughable to just sweep this under the rug at the same time (not that you're doing that but there are sunshine pumpers already emerging doing that).

Malloy 09-23-2013 06:41 AM

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My major concern right now is that save two plays, we're 0-3 right now.

thunderkyss 09-23-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Malloy (Post 2214916)
My major concern right now is that save two plays, we're 0-3 right now.

I was thinking save two plays we would be 3-0 right now.

EllisUnit 09-23-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214913)
Them Bengals are playing good ball right now. They eeked out a good one against Green Bay yesterday.



I think I can understand some of the poor outlook a lot of us have. We started out red hot last year, despite glaring problems that did not get fixed as the season went on. We continued to win in spite of those problems, until they caught up with us in December.

Right now, it's hard to see any good will being built to allow for the fall in December & there's little reason to believe the powers that be have what it takes to right the ship.



That's another thing. It's not the offense. When we needed to, we've been able to march the ball down the field with relative ease. The problem, is that we don't play like that until we "need" to.

We should want to get down the field & score on every possession. You'd think the players & coaches know that, but at a very high level (even a layman can see it) there is a distinct difference between when we need to & when we want to. The Texans need to find a way to close that gap.



I admire your support of your team. We need more like you. But is that the "fan" talking? Honest question, have you ever seen this team play better at the end of the season than it did at the beginning? Not beating up on the weaker teams at the end of the schedule, or winning games the other team couldn't care less about? I mean actually playing better football... the eyeball test.

It's been a long time since I've actually seen them play better in December than they did in September. I believe most of us know it, even though we're saying it in different ways, that's what upsets us.



Well since they sare playing so poor now, this might be the year we actually do it, well thats what him hoping for.

Thorn 09-23-2013 07:38 AM

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I'm not gonna calm down until I see a super bowl parade in downtown Houston. And I'll keep bitching and moaning about everything I don't like until then.

Ktexan68 09-23-2013 07:49 AM

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I'm sorry to be so negative but this really feels like 2010 to me. We had a couple last second wins, stumble to 4-2 and then the wheels really came off. The sky is not falling but we have some serious problems.

Corrosion 09-23-2013 08:00 AM

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Nope , not gonna do it.


I'm done with the noodle armed statue of a QB.

I'm thoroughly convinced that Schaub isn't capable of leading this team to a Lombardi Trophy.

For the guy to be successful , everything else has to be perfect and in the NFL , you just cant expect that.

silvrhand 09-23-2013 08:06 AM

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We were 3-12 on third down this week, anyone want to pick out the 3rd down conversion attempts and break down what really went wrong?

- twice I saw 3rd and > 10 we ran the draw, and gave up (kubiak)
- twice I saw Matt throw a ball 2-3 yards short of the first down hoping they would pick this up (not sure who to blame here)

I don't have anything else on the rest but the above already makes me sick and kills me year in year out. Kubiak again plays the safe game.. Matt doesn't seem to skills at QB to get the tough 3rd down conversions. Of late he's been staring down his primary receiver hard core and not going through the progressions either. What's up with that?

Ktexan68 09-23-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2214941)
Nope , not gonna do it.


I'm done with the noodle armed statue of a QB.

I'm thoroughly convinced that Schaub isn't capable of leading this team to a Lombardi Trophy.

For the guy to be successful , everything else has to be perfect and in the NFL , you just cant expect that.

QFT. I've been a Schaub apologist but I just can't do it anymore. We need a new QB.

Malloy 09-23-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214920)
I was thinking save two plays we would be 3-0 right now.

Honestly, I think the first two weeks were closer to defeats than victories. I guess we see Things differently :)

I'm satisfied with any sort of Progress at this point, but going into turtle mode whenever we start a game, I just Wonder...

PapaL 09-23-2013 08:31 AM

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ST coverage is a pile of hot garbage.

Offense slept walked through this entire game; that's a HUGE cause for concern.

To me, the Defense gets a pass. How many 3 and outs did they cause in the first half? Offense consistently started mid-field and proceeded to take dump right around there.

ST and Offense were responsible for 14/30 points the Ravens scored.

On the bright side Bullock went 3/3. Suddenly those long misses don't seem so pressing when the Offense is crapping the bed and rolling around in it.

One more thing, why does it take AJ going down to get Nuk the ball?

Tailgate 09-23-2013 08:35 AM

Re: Ok everyone just calm down....
 
If Duane Brown comes back healthy, and the O-Line begins to gel.. We will be fine. We only go as far as that unit takes us.

And this in no way reminds me of 2010. That defense was the worst that the game of football has ever seen. :shades:

silvrhand 09-23-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214920)
I was thinking save two plays we would be 3-0 right now.

Love you man, but damn you have some rosey glasses on lol. You are Mr. Glass Half full.

thunderkyss 09-23-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tailgate (Post 2214950)
If Duane Brown comes back healthy, and the O-Line begins to gel.. We will be fine. We only go as far as that unit takes us.

I don't think we need to wait to see if Brown is going to be able to go... It's better if we assume the worse & act accordingly. We need to spread the defense, more 4 & even 5 wide sets out of the shotgun. Run uptempo dinks & dunks to get the ball moving.... can't depend on the pass protection.

Back the defense up... shift to an ACE set from the shotgun & stretch the crap out of the defense.

Corrosion 09-23-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214956)
I don't think we need to wait to see if Brown is going to be able to go... It's better if we assume the worse & act accordingly. We need to spread the defense, more 4 & even 5 wide sets out of the shotgun. Run uptempo dinks & dunks to get the ball moving.... can't depend on the pass protection.

Back the defense up... shift to an ACE set from the shotgun & stretch the crap out of the defense.

Does that mean you have confidence in Schaub to execute that plan ?! I'm rapidly losing faith in him.

Tailgate 09-23-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214956)
I don't think we need to wait to see if Brown is going to be able to go... It's better if we assume the worse & act accordingly. We need to spread the defense, more 4 & even 5 wide sets out of the shotgun. Run uptempo dinks & dunks to get the ball moving.... can't depend on the pass protection.

Back the defense up... shift to an ACE set from the shotgun & stretch the crap out of the defense.

I'm cool with trying more of that. Normally I would say well, we arent going to play a front 7 as talanted as the Ravens very often.....

eriadoc 09-23-2013 09:03 AM

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The first three games of this season are reminding me of the first three games of the 2010 season.

cuppacoffee 09-23-2013 09:06 AM

Re: Ok everyone just calm down....
 
It could be worse.

At least we scored three field goals, Tampa Bay only scored one. :kitten:

All other teams managed at least one TD.

:coffee:


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