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thunderkyss 09-22-2013 05:32 PM

Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
I'm listening to the post game show on 610 & they mentioned the scouting report on Ed Reed says he is "Susceptible to being hurdled." & of course, he's been hurdled a few times in the last couple of years.

Surely that isn't something that's been in his scouting report since coming out of college right? That was just added in the last few years? Like he's starting his dive too early & isn't closing that gap as fast as he used to.

Right?

handswarmer 09-22-2013 05:35 PM

Re: Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214552)
I'm listening to the post game show on 610 & they mentioned the scouting report on Ed Reed says he is "Susceptible to being hurdled." & of course, he's been hurdled a few times in the last couple of years.

Surely that isn't something that's been in his scouting report since coming out of college right? That was just added in the last few years? Like he's starting his dive too early & isn't closing that gap as fast as he used to.

Right?

He drops his head down to make a tackle instead of seeing what he hits.

Result of his neck/nerve impingement issue. Been watching it for the last 4 years here in Baltimore

ATXtexanfan 09-22-2013 05:36 PM

Re: Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214552)
I'm listening to the post game show on 610 & they mentioned the scouting report on Ed Reed says he is "Susceptible to being hurdled." & of course, he's been hurdled a few times in the last couple of years.

Surely that isn't something that's been in his scouting report since coming out of college right? That was just added in the last few years? Like he's starting his dive too early & isn't closing that gap as fast as he used to.

Right?

Money well spent

Vinny 09-22-2013 05:36 PM

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Schaub has a tendency to serve up a meatball....just thought it fit this thread.

Lucky 09-22-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan (Post 2214561)
Money well spent

Just like the money spent on the QB.

ATXtexanfan 09-22-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2214570)
Just like the money spent on the QB.

Indeed

Pollardized 09-22-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 2214563)
Schaub has a tendency to serve up a meatball....just thought it fit this thread.

Matt Schaub is a serviceable quarterback. If EVERYTHING is going good, he can do enough to win games consistently. But he is not the kind of QB who can make things happen or put a team on his shoulders and will them to victory. Everyone loses sometimes, that's a given. It's the way Schaub plays when we lose that is noticeable.

CloakNNNdagger 09-22-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by handswarmer (Post 2214556)
He drops his head down to make a tackle instead of seeing what he hits.

Result of his neck/nerve impingement issue. Been watching it for the last 4 years here in Baltimore

That actually makes very little sense. Axial loading of the cervical spine resulting from head-down contact is the primary cause of spinal cord injuries. Keeping the head up and initiating contact with the shoulder or chest decreases the risk of these injuries.

http://www.heads-upstabilizer.com/us...%20picture.jpg

CloakNNNdagger 09-22-2013 07:19 PM

Re: Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214552)
I'm listening to the post game show on 610 & they mentioned the scouting report on Ed Reed says he is "Susceptible to being hurdled." & of course, he's been hurdled a few times in the last couple of years.

Surely that isn't something that's been in his scouting report since coming out of college right? That was just added in the last few years? Like he's starting his dive too early & isn't closing that gap as fast as he used to.

Right?

This does make sense if you're trying to protect your hips. Diving with or without making contact puts very little direct stress on the hips. When you hit an offensive players and try to wrap him up, you are usually putting a great deal of stress and torque on the hips.........under a great mass of resistance.

handswarmer 09-22-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2214623)
That actually makes very little sense. Axial loading of the cervical spine resulting from head-down contact is the primary cause of spinal cord injuries. Keeping the head up and initiating contact with the shoulder or chest decreases the risk of these injuries.

http://www.heads-upstabilizer.com/us...%20picture.jpg

never said it made sense- said its what he does

the "heads up" tackling method isn't how most current NFLers learned how to tackle...

CloakNNNdagger 09-22-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by handswarmer (Post 2214664)
never said it made sense- said its what he does

the "heads up" tackling method isn't how most current NFLers learned how to tackle...

You're right. Since last fall, the NFL has partnered with the national youth organization USA Football to expand and promote "Heads Up Football," a program purporting to teach new techniques that "literally takes the whole head out of actual tackling. NFL players at the same time are being coached to relearn tackling using the new approach.

BullNation4Life 09-22-2013 11:43 PM

Re: Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2214552)
I'm listening to the post game show on 610 & they mentioned the scouting report on Ed Reed says he is "Susceptible to being hurdled." & of course, he's been hurdled a few times in the last couple of years.

Surely that isn't something that's been in his scouting report since coming out of college right? That was just added in the last few years? Like he's starting his dive too early & isn't closing that gap as fast as he used to.

Right?

I don't know if you saw the broadcast, but they showed a montage of Ed Reed getting hurdled through out his career. There were like 6 clips of different players jumping over him, some actually did it while Reed was still up right, anticipating Reed to go low...

Some of the clips looked like they were from way back just by the players on the team they showed...

DocBar 09-23-2013 12:44 AM

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There seems to be a complete lack of coaching on tackling. All I see are big hits aimed at the head or feet and trying to strip the ball while the ball carrier keeps racking up yards after contact. I was taught to place your head on the directional side (the direction the ball carrier is running) and tackle through the ball carrier (like he was a few yards away from you) and wrapping up to secure the tackle. In my playing days, I was shook off a few times for tackling too high but I never whiffed on a tackle.

If players would quit looking for the ESPN highlight and just make the tackle, there would be a lot fewer injuries.

handswarmer 09-23-2013 07:20 AM

Re: Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
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Originally Posted by DocBar (Post 2214871)
There seems to be a complete lack of coaching on tackling. All I see are big hits aimed at the head or feet and trying to strip the ball while the ball carrier keeps racking up yards after contact. I was taught to place your head on the directional side (the direction the ball carrier is running) and tackle through the ball carrier (like he was a few yards away from you) and wrapping up to secure the tackle. In my playing days, I was shook off a few times for tackling too high but I never whiffed on a tackle.

If players would quit looking for the ESPN highlight and just make the tackle, there would be a lot fewer injuries.

Was just watching ESPN- they showed different stars from different sports singing the "da da da, da da da" highlight song after they made a play.

It is very pervasive in our professional sports teams.

PapaL 09-23-2013 08:35 AM

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It's the beard. It's too heavy to hold up while tackling the opposing player.

Bulls on Parade 09-23-2013 02:48 PM

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Isn't that the textbook way to do it these days?

You don't want to aim high like Bernard "dirty" Pollard.

And he got the job done. The runner went out of bounds.

Dread-Head 09-23-2013 02:54 PM

Re: Susceptible to being hurdled.
 
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Originally Posted by Vinny (Post 2214563)
Schaub has a tendency to serve up a meatball....just thought it fit this thread.

At least one per game. :dread:

Insofar as the crux of this thread is concerned:

1. Mad props on the use of the word "susceptible" in a thread.

2. He's not trying to take cheap shots like a certain former Texan who now has a bird on his head.

3. Next time it happens he should reach up and over with a clenched fist. It'll look like he's swimming in mid air and there's a chance he might "accidentally" punch the hurdler in question in the cajones. :slapfight:

handswarmer 09-25-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread-Head (Post 2215180)
2. He's not trying to take cheap shots like a certain former Texan who now has a bird on his head.

Who would that be?

buddyboy 09-25-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread-Head (Post 2215180)
2. He's not trying to take cheap shots like a certain former Texan who now has a bird on his head.

He plays with a flaming T on his head, actually.

handswarmer 09-25-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by buddyboy (Post 2216009)
He plays with a flaming T on his head, actually.

That's what I thought:clap:


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