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djohn2oo8 09-22-2013 03:45 PM

What will it take for the Texans to...
 
Trade up in the draft for a QB? Hell they may not even have to trade up.

ATXtexanfan 09-22-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8 (Post 2214283)
Trade up in the draft for a QB? Hell they may not even have to trade up.

Remove kubiak. Schaub is his love child

MEGA SWATT 09-22-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan (Post 2214299)
Remove kubiak. Schaub is his love child

Agree

amazing80 09-22-2013 04:28 PM

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how about we trade up for a lb who can cover a ****ing tight end

texanhead08 09-22-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by amazing80 (Post 2214409)
how about we trade up for a lb who can cover a ****ing tight end

A right tackle who could block someone would be nice too.

Lucky 09-22-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by amazing80 (Post 2214409)
how about we trade up for a lb who can cover a ****ing tight end

The defense could have thrown a shutout today, and the Texans would have still lost the game.

Lucky 09-22-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by C.O.DuB (Post 2214422)
Off: RG, RT

Def: OLB, CB, MLB

Corners really got beat today.. Maybe it was a lack of pressure on passing plays but either way the Ravens took some shots at us.

But the QB was great, right? Isn't this a QB thread?

Rey 09-22-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2214419)
The defense could have thrown a shutout today, and the Texans would have still lost the game.

That's a great way to put it. I think that about sums up the day.

As far as what it will take to trade up? I think kubiak would have to get fired or Schaub would need to just need to continue to be himself.

I don't think Schaub will be the qb here for too long.

Hervoyel 09-22-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan (Post 2214299)
Remove kubiak. Schaub is his love child

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Originally Posted by MEGA SWATT (Post 2214407)
Agree


They're a package deal I'm convinced. Kubiak doesn't want a Wilson or a Kaepernick here. He doesn't even want an Andrew Luck. He wants a robot who will "execute the play as it is designed" and who will "throw it away and take no chances if it didn't go as planned". Kubiak doesn't want a player who can create anything on his own because that's not part of the system and the system is pretty much how Kubiak's "magic" works.

Nothing's changing though so there's no sense getting wound up over it. The Texans aren't going to be going after a QB unless Schaub gets decapitated out there and even then I doubt he'll look for someone we'd get excited about. He'll find another plodding goober who takes orders and doesn't do anything unexpected.

I cut out in the 3rd quarter when it became clear that this was one of those games where Gary's system doesn't work because the other coach is smart too and the other team isn't going to get all confused and **** the bed. See, the good teams, the well coached teams don't do that even when penalties are raining down on them and nothing is going their way.

Baltimore has our number unless they're the walking dead like they were last year and when things get tough they get it together and keep working. We seem to breed a different kind of team here in Houston.

It's sad really. Lots of wasted careers and years out there playing for this chump and his trained chimp QB. This feels to me a lot like that 6-10 season the Texans coughed up a few years ago. We're in for a lot of this for a long time. We know McNair will put up with bad for about four years. Who knows how long he'll be good with one-and-done playoff appearances and being thought of as a contender? Gary could be here another 10 years pulling that ****.

Tailgate 09-22-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel (Post 2214440)
They're a package deal I'm convinced. Kubiak doesn't want a Wilson or a Kaepernick here. He doesn't even want an Andrew Luck. He wants a robot who will "execute the play as it is designed" and who will "throw it away and take no chances if it didn't go as planned". Kubiak doesn't want a player who can create anything on his own because that's not part of the system and the system is pretty much how Kubiak's "magic" works.

Nothing's changing though so there's no sense getting wound up over it. The Texans aren't going to be going after a QB unless Schaub gets decapitated out there and even then I doubt he'll look for someone we'd get excited about. He'll find another plodding goober who takes orders and doesn't do anything unexpected.

I cut out in the 3rd quarter when it became clear that this was one of those games where Gary's system doesn't work because the other coach is smart too and the other team isn't going to get all confused and **** the bed. See, the good teams, the well coached teams don't do that even when penalties are raining down on them and nothing is going their way.

Baltimore has our number unless they're the walking dead like they were last year and when things get tough they get it together and keep working. We seem to breed a different kind of team here in Houston.

It's sad really. Lots of wasted careers and years out there playing for this chump and his trained chimp QB. This feels to me a lot like that 6-10 season the Texans coughed up a few years ago. We're in for a lot of this for a long time. We know McNair will put up with bad for about four years. Who knows how long he'll be good with one-and-done playoff appearances and being thought of as a contender? Gary could be here another 10 years pulling that ****.

Im just not buying this crap. Do we need an upgrade at QB? Obviously. Do we need an upgrade at O-Line? No doubt about it. Do we need better outside pash rushers? Absolutely.

But to say Kubiak would pass on a Wlson or a Kaepernick just because they are "too athletic" is ridiculous.

Lucky 09-22-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2214434)
As far as what it will take to trade up? I think kubiak would have to get fired or Schaub would need to just need to continue to be himself.

I don't think Kubiak would want to start over with a rookie. But if the Texans miss the playoffs, he may have get a Manziel to regain McNair's trust that the team isn't treading water.

cstyle42 09-22-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by C.O.DuB (Post 2214422)
Off: RG, RT

Def: OLB, CB, MLB

Corners really got beat today.. Maybe it was a lack of pressure on passing plays but either way the Ravens took some shots at us.

Watch what 49ers do when their tackles and guards get beat... they got a qb that can run and make them pay. Stop blaming the everyone else the problem is Schuab and Kubiak. This is a qb's league.

AMartin56 09-22-2013 05:04 PM

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Andre isn't getting younger. Daniels will be showing his mileage soon. And even if Reed gels with the rest of the secondary he is no spring chicken either. If the Texans don't try to improve the RT position and make a push this year it will be obvious that maintaining a profitable franchise is more important to our owner than taking risks to try and get over the top. I realize they don't grow on trees but package Tate and a pick to try and get a legitimate RT. Our late round solution isn't working out.

AMartin56 09-22-2013 05:07 PM

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Not to mention how we'll be starting over again in the secondary if Joseph and Manning continue their decline.

Tailgate 09-22-2013 05:08 PM

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The three areas that make a great team? You HAVE to have these 3. QB, Oline, and a pass rushing freak. We have ZERO right now. I thought we could get away w having 2 of 3, but absolutely not w none.

ATXtexanfan 09-22-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel (Post 2214440)
They're a package deal I'm convinced. Kubiak doesn't want a Wilson or a Kaepernick here. He doesn't even want an Andrew Luck. He wants a robot who will "execute the play as it is designed" and who will "throw it away and take no chances if it didn't go as planned". Kubiak doesn't want a player who can create anything on his own because that's not part of the system and the system is pretty much how Kubiak's "magic" works.

Nothing's changing though so there's no sense getting wound up over it. The Texans aren't going to be going after a QB unless Schaub gets decapitated out there and even then I doubt he'll look for someone we'd get excited about. He'll find another plodding goober who takes orders and doesn't do anything unexpected.

I cut out in the 3rd quarter when it became clear that this was one of those games where Gary's system doesn't work because the other coach is smart too and the other team isn't going to get all confused and **** the bed. See, the good teams, the well coached teams don't do that even when penalties are raining down on them and nothing is going their way.

Baltimore has our number unless they're the walking dead like they were last year and when things get tough they get it together and keep working. We seem to breed a different kind of team here in Houston.

It's sad really. Lots of wasted careers and years out there playing for this chump and his trained chimp QB. This feels to me a lot like that 6-10 season the Texans coughed up a few years ago. We're in for a lot of this for a long time. We know McNair will put up with bad for about four years. Who knows how long he'll be good with one-and-done playoff appearances and being thought of as a contender? Gary could be here another 10 years pulling that ****.

Agree

houstonspartan 09-22-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tailgate (Post 2214446)
Im just not buying this crap. Do we need an upgrade at QB? Obviously. Do we need an upgrade at O-Line? No doubt about it. Do we need better outside pash rushers? Absolutely.

But to say Kubiak would pass on a Wlson or a Kaepernick just because they are "too athletic" is ridiculous.

Don't think he was saying that. I think he was saying that those other QB's are more free thinkers, and that Kubiak wants more of a "do it my way" guy. That's true. Kubiak is wedded to his system, and appears to want QB's who toe the line.

Remember when Harbaugh benched Smith during the season? Everyone was shocked, but that took stones. That led to the Super Bowl. Kubiak would never do that.

Hervoyel 09-22-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tailgate (Post 2214446)
Im just not buying this crap. Do we need an upgrade at QB? Obviously. Do we need an upgrade at O-Line? No doubt about it. Do we need better outside pash rushers? Absolutely.

But to say Kubiak would pass on a Wlson or a Kaepernick just because they are "too athletic" is ridiculous.


Fine, don't buy it. The biggest point I'm trying to make is that Gary is a ****ing control freak and that Wilson, Kaep, or Luck wouldn't be "Wilson, Kaep, or Luck" here playing for Gary. They'd be Gary's robot and nothing more. Obviously more mobile than Matt but still locked into their instructions from the Brainiac holding the Denny's menu.

If they colored outside the lines they'd sit for not being a pro.

Like I said, it's not worth worrying about too much. It isn't going to change as long as he's here. I just go outside and do yard work on days when they face a real opponent and it all works out fine.

Tailgate 09-22-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel (Post 2214472)
Fine, don't buy it. The biggest point I'm trying to make is that Gary is a ****ing control freak and that Wilson, Kaep, or Luck wouldn't be "Wilson, Kaep, or Luck" here playing for Gary. They'd be Gary's robot and nothing more. Obviously more mobile than Matt but still locked into their instructions from the Brainiac holding the Denny's menu.

If they colored outside the lines they'd sit for not being a pro.

Like I said, it's not worth worrying about too much. It isn't going to change as long as he's here. I just go outside and do yard work on days when they face a real opponent and it all works out fine.

So those guys would throw the pick sixes, make bad decisions, or under throw receivers as well because they would be his "robot"??


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