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Texanmike02 09-10-2013 01:40 AM

We cannot win a championship if....
 
OK. So we all saw a few people come down hard on Matt and Kubiak in the first half. (A whopping 3.25% of the season btw.) It is true that if we see exactly the Matt we saw last year and the exact same Kubiak we saw last year. So what else can't we see?

We can't be a 2 corner team. Mccain has to show up.
We can't be a 1 pass rush team. Somebody not named Watt needs to get to 8-10 sacks.
We can't go to sleep offensively. I can live with the first half of the first game but you can't do that game in and game out.
We can't get down early and often. SB winning teams don't get down early every game. You luck runs out.
Matt has to be the Matt we saw today. If he isn't going to be lightening fast he has to hang tough and make throws. Matt looked like he had forgotten about fat ass albert tonight.
We can't be a 3 threat offense. In years past that was enough. Tonight I saw what looked like 5-6 weapons on offense. I mean legit weapons. AJ (obviously), OD, Graham, Hopkins, Tate, Foster (he didn't look great early but he started to run harder after sitting on the sideline for almost the entire series.
We can't be predictable. Everyone was on Schaub today... On 3rd down he was 6 of 10 with 4 conversions. We need that. We pulled off a fake punt.
The defense has to play more zone. I know Wade is a great DC but we have to mix it up a little. If you are playing a QB with a high football IQ you can't pull man def on 85% of your snaps (by my rough count). You have to disguise coverage and delay blitzes (see the Manning sack) on occasion. Get the QB out of rhythm.
We can't continue with the penalties, I'm looking at you Lestar.


Cushing has to be the player capable of making that INT and pressuring the QB.

Oh, btw... Joe Mays was a beast today. Big time against the run.

It is not a matter of if this team can win a SB or not, AS CONSTRUCTED. It is a matter of if the players will take risks at the right time, be disciplined, stay at home and the coach will recognize the time to make the mold. This is a team capable of winning, along with about 5-6 other teams. Nothing to do with can't, or a coaching problem, everything to do with discipline and the right mixture of luck, health, work hard and staying calm. If Matt stands in there like he did today, the QB play will be fine.

34/45, 346 yds, 3 TDs 1 Int.

Don't give me "it was garbage time". There is no garbage time in a game you win by a QB. He converted on 3rd and 18, 3rd and 13, 3rd and 11 and 3rd and 8. Manning, Brady, Luck, Eli or any other QB you want to call "elite" would take both his stat line and his result today. In 2010 Matt put in these kind of performances all year but the defense was the worst I've ever seen. He put that team on his back several times that year and they slithered off. This time the D nutted up and held up their own.

Mike

RCPM 09-10-2013 01:50 AM

Re: We cannot win a championship if....
 
Finally, a post I can totally agree with.

Texanmike02 09-10-2013 02:16 AM

Re: We cannot win a championship if....
 
Just got orders to Osan today, I needed a win.

Mike

Txn_in_Oki 09-10-2013 02:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2206783)
Just got orders to Osan today, I needed a win.

Mike

Just finished two years in Seoul, Osan isn't so bad. My kids keep bugging me to get back there.

thunderkyss 09-10-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2206743)
OK. So we all saw a few people come down hard on Matt and Kubiak in the first half. (A whopping 3.25% of the season btw.) It is true that if we see exactly the Matt we saw last year and the exact same Kubiak we saw last year. So what else can't we see?

We can't...

Mike

Who were the Ravens last year, the Giants in 2011, the Packers in 2010, or the Saints in 2009?

None of those teams were perfect, we don't need to be either. What we can't do is get too far ahead of ourselves, or get stuck too far behind. The only thing that matters is the hear & now, the next play.

We've got problems like every other team in the NFL. We've got limitations & gaping holes like every other team. One of those teams will win the Super Bowl & it might as well be us.

We need to focus on the next play & be determined to be the best we can be.

honored82 09-10-2013 09:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2206783)
Just got orders to Osan today, I needed a win.

Mike

I got orders to Osan too, Will be there in December for a year. Wonder where we gonna watch NFL next season :(

76Texan 09-10-2013 09:11 AM

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We did mix in some zone looks; I don't know how often though.

Texanmike02 09-10-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2206909)
We did mix in some zone looks; I don't know how often though.

We started mixing some zone in the second half.. more man zone than straight zone...

You have to do that. If you run straight up man all game then the QB just looks for the weak link, look at how quickly Rivers got the ball out in the first half compared to the second.... compound that with his escapability that he showed almost every time the pocket broke down... But when you take away his presnap read?

Dude he was maddening us in the first half (moving people in motion to identify coverage).... that BS stopped in the second half.

Mike

LikeMike 09-10-2013 10:41 AM

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Let`s stop talking about why we can`t win a championship and start talking about why we CAN win a championship...

76Texan 09-10-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LikeMike (Post 2206976)
start talking about why we CAN win a championship...

Because we have Schaub. :swatter:

Playoffs 09-10-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2206783)
Just got orders to Osan today...Mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txn_in_Oki (Post 2206790)
Just finished two years in Seoul, Osan isn't so bad.

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Originally Posted by honored82 (Post 2206907)
I got orders to Osan too, Will be there in December for a year.

Stay safe, guys. :fostering:

76Texan 09-10-2013 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2206956)
We started mixing some zone in the second half.. more man zone than straight zone...

You have to do that. If you run straight up man all game then the QB just looks for the weak link, look at how quickly Rivers got the ball out in the first half compared to the second.... compound that with his escapability that he showed almost every time the pocket broke down... But when you take away his presnap read?

Dude he was maddening us in the first half (moving people in motion to identify coverage).... that BS stopped in the second half.

Mike

Rivers threw a pass to the TE Green in the first half into a 2-deep zone under.
I've only watched up to the second TD; sure, we played man a ton, but that's what we do. That's what you have to do if you want to bring a safety down into the box.

Texanmike02 09-10-2013 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LikeMike (Post 2206976)
Let`s stop talking about why we can`t win a championship and start talking about why we CAN win a championship...

It isn't about why we can win a championship. We're on a short list of teams that CAN... but only one team will. It will be the team that is best able to hide their deficiencies, play consistently, get a little lucky and stay healthy. "Why we can win a championship" is pretty simple, top to bottom we've got talent that only 4-5 teams can match. That's the only reason we "can" win the SB. Recognizing what your potential pitfalls are and what you have to avoid in order to win a SB is the only way you can expect to. As fans, we should be educated/interested enough to learn that stuff too.

Mike

EllisUnit 09-10-2013 07:09 PM

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Dont forget people we didnt have Antonio Smith either, we got 2 sacks, JJ was still in the back field a lot, TBH he looked rusty to me but towards the end he began making plays in the back field again.

Watt, Smith, Cushing, JoJo, Manning, (The way mays was playing) add in Ed Reed and we have one of the most talented defenses in the NFL. I'm not worried. We will destroy most opponents we play.

As far as offense goes i like what i saw last night, OD, Graham, AJ, Hopkins, Tate man they looked good. And guys dont forget Foster didnt play all pre season, he is still a beast and we will all be thankful to have foster soon enough i gurantee you !

Texanmike02 09-10-2013 07:14 PM

Re: We cannot win a championship if....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2207087)
Rivers threw a pass to the TE Green in the first half into a 2-deep zone under.
I've only watched up to the second TD; sure, we played man a ton, but that's what we do. That's what you have to do if you want to bring a safety down into the box.

When you watch, do me a favor, watch the motion. Tell me how often we react to the motion in the defense. I really think Rivers was using that to diagnose our defense in the first half. Not necessarily who he "was" throwing to, but eliminating options when he wasn't. I thought that in the second half Rivers was slower to get rid of the ball and it seemed (perception) that we didn't move as much when he sent someone in motion.

Mike

beerlover 09-10-2013 07:18 PM

Re: We cannot win a championship if....
 
Texans will not win a Championship unless Matt Schaub gets protection.

EllisUnit 09-10-2013 08:18 PM

Re: We cannot win a championship if....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2207326)
When you watch, do me a favor, watch the motion. Tell me how often we react to the motion in the defense. I really think Rivers was using that to diagnose our defense in the first half. Not necessarily who he "was" throwing to, but eliminating options when he wasn't. I thought that in the second half Rivers was slower to get rid of the ball and it seemed (perception) that we didn't move as much when he sent someone in motion.

Mike

I saw a lot better coverage in the 2nd half, prob why he was slower to get rid of the ball, JoJo in the 2nd half actually looked like his old self minus the first drive by SD after half time.

buffalo2269 09-10-2013 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by honored82 (Post 2206907)
I got orders to Osan too, Will be there in December for a year. Wonder where we gonna watch NFL next season :(

What oson guys?

infantrycak 09-10-2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buffalo2269 (Post 2207427)
What oson guys?

Osan South Korea, most likely to Osan Air Base.

Hookem Horns 09-10-2013 10:53 PM

Re: We cannot win a championship if....
 
... if Leawood Hustla keeps putting up poll threads during the games.


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