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Wolf 08-10-2013 06:56 PM

NFL pulls plug on customize face masks
 
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The National Football League is pulling the plug on elaborate, customized face masks that several prominent NFL defensive players had planned to wear this season.
In an email to the Associated Press, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said that the customized mask that Indianapolis Colts linebacker Robert Mathis had been wearing during training camp would not be approved for use during games.



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...235936743.html

thunderkyss 08-10-2013 07:05 PM

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Shweww..... for a minute there I was worried about the integrity of the game.

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Rey 08-10-2013 07:10 PM

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So Justin tuck won't be able to wear his patented woven face mask either?

I liked those. I wonder if there's a safety reason for it?

infantrycak 08-10-2013 07:15 PM

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They are allowing them if you get a note from your doctor. Two players have already had them approved.

BullBlitz 08-10-2013 07:22 PM

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I'm glad to see this. Unless there is a functional reason for having such a mask, they need to stay with the standard options.

CloakNNNdagger 08-10-2013 07:28 PM

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It's hard for me to think of a reason for this rule except the league may have a concern over the player playing with "blind spots" or opponents' fingers getting caught and twisted/broken in the small spaces, or in the case of visors, creating reflection into the opponents eyes. With that said, I'm starting more and more to warm up to the idea that face masks should be removed altogether. Have the players think twice before they engage their skulls and faces........without first engaging their brain.

2012Champs 08-10-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BullBlitz (Post 2191283)
I'm glad to see this. Unless there is a functional reason for having such a mask, they need to stay with the standard options.


Why would they need to stick to the standard?

ChampionTexan 08-10-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012Champs (Post 2191353)
Why would they need to stick to the standard?

Undoubtedly for the same reason they need to have their socks pulled up and their jerseys tucked in. (Please don't ask me why they would need to have their sock pulled up and their jerseys tucked in). (Thanks!)

2012Champs 08-10-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampionTexan (Post 2191359)
Undoubtedly for the same reason they need to have their socks pulled up and their jerseys tucked in. (Please don't ask me why they would need to have their sock pulled up and their jerseys tucked in). (Thanks!)


Not really the same thing and there are already a number of available face mask, having a few more designs does nothing to the overall look such as an untucked jersey or socks around your ankles

Showtime100 08-10-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2191285)
It's hard for me to think of a reason for this rule except the league may have a concern over the player playing with "blind spots" or opponents' fingers getting caught and twisted/broken in the small spaces, or in the case of visors, creating reflection into the opponents eyes. With that said, I'm starting more and more to warm up to the idea that face masks should be removed altogether. Have the players think twice before they engage their skulls and faces........without first engaging their brain.

Every time I look at those particular face masks I think that very thing. I instinctively retract my fingers to my hand...lol.

ChampionTexan 08-10-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012Champs (Post 2191363)
Not really the same thing and there are already a number of available face mask, having a few more designs does nothing to the overall look such as an untucked jersey or socks around your ankles

You don't think those face masks draw more attention than the "standard" ones? You don't think it differentiates those wearing them from those not wearing them (working under the premise of course that "different is bad")

2012Champs 08-10-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampionTexan (Post 2191365)
You don't think those face masks draw more attention than the "standard" ones? You don't think it differentiates those wearing them from those not wearing them (working under the premise of course that "different is bad")

Draw more attention? From who? I think it may be an overreaction on your part

Txn_in_Oki 08-10-2013 10:31 PM

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Seems like one of those things where you give someone a little leash to work with and that one guy goes over the top and screws it up for everybody.

I could care less but I guess the league disagrees.

ChampionTexan 08-10-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012Champs (Post 2191367)
Draw more attention? From who? I think it may be an overreaction on your part

You asked a question and I gave a facetious answer, and then you get all "well what about this and well what about that" over it. Jeez - look in the mirror and then decide about overreactions.

2012Champs 08-11-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChampionTexan (Post 2191374)
You asked a question and I gave a facetious answer, and then you get all "well what about this and well what about that" over it. Jeez - look in the mirror and then decide about overreactions.

I'm pretty sure I didn't get all "what about this or that" and your overreaction came by way of a face mask being a distraction

CloakNNNdagger 08-11-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012Champs (Post 2191363)
Not really the same thing and there are already a number of available face mask, having a few more designs does nothing to the overall look such as an untucked jersey or socks around your ankles

From speaking to a League official last year , this is what I essentially walked away with. Most of these I had already surmised.:

Rules for jerseys, pants and socks are based on 2 premises.

1)NFL players and team personnel are expected to dress in a professional manner while representing the League.

2)All of these uniform pieces are designed to fit like a second skin over pads and the body parts to minimize the ability for these apparels to be caught on one's own other body parts or your opponents'. This would apply to such examples as cleats on socks or a player being able to pull the top part of the untucked socks when lower limb tackling. The requirements of pants fitting over the socks and specifically fitting over the knee is there because once the pant ends ride up over the knee, they tend to continue to ride up further, eventually releasing the underlying socks. In that the league does not allow easy to tear away jerseys, they expect their jerseys to be skin tight with no loose ends to be grabbed and used to an opponent's advantage either and possibly to the players detriment such as simulating a whiplash in the form of a mini-horse collar. Once the jerseys are no longer properly tightly tucked, the entire jersey tends to become loosened.

Hervoyel 08-11-2013 11:26 AM

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The National Football League says so. That's it. No further reason necessary and the players need to STFU and cash their checks. It's no different from the NFL telling us that we can only bring approved transparent bags in the stadium or any of a countless number of of other sort of pointless rules that exist "because the NFL says so".

The NFL says no facemasks they don't approve. That's all the explanation necessary. Obviously there are justifications for things (re: Cloak's post about the uniform being designed to fit like a second skin) but beyond that these guys work for the NFL and the NFL says you have to wear what they say when you come to work. Sometimes it's silly and sometimes it's annoying but that's what they want so that's how it is.

CloakNNNdagger 08-11-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel (Post 2191481)
The National Football League says so. That's it. No further reason necessary and the players need to STFU and cash their checks. It's no different from the NFL telling us that we can only bring approved transparent bags in the stadium or any of a countless number of of other sort of pointless rules that exist "because the NFL says so".

The NFL says no facemasks they don't approve. That's all the explanation necessary. Obviously there are justifications for things (re: Cloak's post about the uniform being designed to fit like a second skin) but beyond that these guys work for the NFL and the NFL says you have to wear what they say when you come to work. Sometimes it's silly and sometimes it's annoying but that's what they want so that's how it is.

You want to keep your job? So, I must have it wrong. You aren't really complaining about the dress code here, are you?


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klockWork 08-11-2013 11:54 AM

I showed up to work wearing ties for the last 15 yrs. I'm still waiting for that one rebel in the building to take off his and slam it to the floor yelling," I hate ties! Why do we have to wear them?"

BullBlitz 08-11-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012Champs (Post 2191353)
Why would they need to stick to the standard?

Because there are plenty of options, from QB masks with very little iron to line and LB masks with plenty of protection.

The ones they are banning aren't adding any extra protection in the design. These guys are pushing the envelope to try to do anything they can to visually set themselves apart. They have a number and a visible name on their jersey unless they wear their hair so long that it can't be read. That's enough.


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