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HTown2ATX 08-07-2013 07:21 AM

Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
I was screwing around on the internet this morning at work and came across this hilarious piece of audio from 2010 that never gets old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNg9qDyViCc

It got me thinking about how terrible he used to be and how I wanted to personally pack his bags and send him out of town. I used to literally go and get a beer from the kitchen and hear on TV in the back ground the Texans give up a big play and I knew before I would even come back and see the replay that Jackson shat his pants on defense and 9 out of 10 times I was right.

Now though, I have to say, I love him back there with JJo and if this front 7 holds up, we should really be exciting on D imo.

I realize this is not a groundbreaking thread/post but A) I wanted to post that audio clip cause it is just funny and B) I haven't been in this main part of the board since last season so I'm unaware of how many, if any threads there have recently been about KJ.

thunderkyss 08-07-2013 07:37 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
I never hated him. From day one I saw the talent that got him drafted. I excused his play because I understood he was put in a bad situation. But from day 1, I knew he was a baller.

Texn4life 08-07-2013 07:48 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
People with unrealistic expectations hated him. Corners don't step into this league ready to dominate normally. He was thrown into the mix with a bad defense and bad safeties. He was destined to fail early on.

HTown2ATX 08-07-2013 08:17 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
I don't know if I actually hated him as a player nor did I expect him to be Prime Time in season 1.....however.....he was terrible when not viewed through Battle Red glasses, that's just how it was. I hated him getting burned and starting from day 1 and at times yeah wanted to run him out on a rail but I am so glad we kept him.

Dude is a bad ass now. :swatter:

HJam72 08-07-2013 08:17 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
I had been wanting them to draft a first round corner for a while and was happy about it, even though we did get Joseph in FA. Never doubted that it had been time for that, but I can't say I never doubted Jackson himself. I expected bad play that first year, but geez...

Never wanted him gone. Knew he still had potential.

Still did remember, "...and Kareem Jackson will fall down." I used to end some of my posts with that.

Rey 08-07-2013 08:24 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Kareem was awful when he first got here. He was not that good his second season either when Jason Allen was taking some snaps from him.

Last year was his first complete season where he really showed his ability.

But really, even as a rookie Kareem was pretty good at plays that happened in front of him or withing the first 10-15 yards. It's when he had to flip his hips and run that he struggled. Long passes where not kind to him.

Last year though, he was 100% better at deep passes that he had been. His confidence just grew once he felt he could defend deep down the field.

drs23 08-07-2013 08:52 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2189488)
Kareem was awful when he first got here. He was not that good his second season either when Jason Allen was taking some snaps from him.

Last year was his first complete season where he really showed his ability.

But really, even as a rookie Kareem was pretty good at plays that happened in front of him or withing the first 10-15 yards. It's when he had to flip his hips and run that he struggled. Long passes where not kind to him.

Last year though, he was 100% better at deep passes that he had been. His confidence just grew once he felt he could defend deep down the field.

Agreed Rey and I expect to see even more improvement again this season. From what we're hearing from camp KJ has honed his skills and technique even more and has taken another big step.

He still can't stop Octopus Hands Nuk but neither can JJo but he did shut down Megatron in the second half last season when he told Vance Joseph to "Let me chase him." I chuckle every time I think about that.

ATXtexanfan 08-07-2013 09:31 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Its amazing what coaching can do

Thorn 08-07-2013 10:06 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
He used to be pretty bad, and now he's good. I used to hate him, now I love him.

It's football and I'm a fan, I can say what I want about any of 'em.

noxiousdog 08-07-2013 11:11 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texn4life (Post 2189480)
People with unrealistic expectations hated him. Corners don't step into this league ready to dominate normally. He was thrown into the mix with a bad defense and bad safeties. He was destined to fail early on.


My feelings exactly. Especially the safeties.

DX-TEX 08-07-2013 11:20 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Kareem tripped twice while you typed this.

eriadoc 08-07-2013 11:35 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Never met the man, so I never hated him. I hated the way he played. I hated that the Texans drafted him in the first round when he clearly wasn't pro-ready, as they kept saying. Hated that they kept repeating that lie while other corners drafted contributed to their teams in better ways.

I'm glad he's finally turned into the player that the Texans insisted he was when they drafted him. His 2011 season should have been his rookie season. In 2010, he was not ready for prime time in any way, shape, or form.

thunderkyss 08-07-2013 11:49 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eriadoc (Post 2189566)
I hated that the Texans drafted him in the first round when he clearly wasn't pro-ready, as they kept saying.

I could be wrong, but I thought they said he was the most pro ready. Seeing how McCourty is a safety now & I don't know what Kyle Wilson is doing... kind of hard to fault them on that.

Now they kept saying he was ready to start from day one. I found that hard to believe. He might have been their best option, but that's a different story.

Rey 08-07-2013 11:54 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
I was happy with Kareem Jackson pick at the time. I wasn't a fan of Kyle Wilson at all so I was just happy we didn't pick him.

TejasTom 08-07-2013 11:55 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2189571)
I could be wrong, but I thought they said he was the most pro ready...

They did say that. The problem was that coaching staff wasn't pro ready.

TexansFTW 08-07-2013 11:59 AM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
"...And Kareem Jackson falls down". LOL, yep, that's what I remember.

I won't lie, I hated this dude and wanted us to find another #1 corner because he, IMO, was worthless.

We did with JJo and Kareem has looked a lot better. You generally look better when you are guarding guys like Andre Roberts instead of guarding Larry Fitzgerald though. I'm excited about the strides he's made, but still not ready for JJo to go anywhere.

Either way, congrats to all of you that said you loved him, expected his garbage play, and stood behind him. I personally think yall are liars, but Captain Hindsight might say differently. Regardless, glad he's come around and excited for this year. I'm just joking and being sarcastic rather than trying to pick a fight FYI.

eriadoc 08-07-2013 12:00 PM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2189571)
I could be wrong, but I thought they said he was the most pro ready. Seeing how McCourty is a safety now & I don't know what Kyle Wilson is doing... kind of hard to fault them on that.

McCourty was voted 1st Team All Pro by Sporting News and 2nd Team All Pro by the AP. THAT is pro ready. If you want to talk about long term ceiling, that's fine, but it's not what they kept saying. Wilson has been a bust, but there were other DBs taken in the first and second round after the Texans pick. I think they pushed it, drafting for need.

I am happy Jackson has improved to the point where he is, though. He's kind of the project that worked out, to contrast Amobi Ok0ye. While I'm glad he worked out, that doesn't mean I'm a fan of first round projects.

DX-TEX 08-07-2013 12:08 PM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexansFTW (Post 2189581)
"...And Kareem Jackson falls down". LOL, yep, that's what I remember.

I won't lie, I hated this dude and wanted us to find another #1 corner because he, IMO, was worthless.

We did with JJo and Kareem has looked a lot better. You generally look better when you are guarding guys like Andre Roberts instead of guarding Larry Fitzgerald though. I'm excited about the strides he's made, but still not ready for JJo to go anywhere.

Either way, congrats to all of you that said you loved him, expected his garbage play, and stood behind him. I personally think yall are liars, but Captain Hindsight might say differently. Regardless, glad he's come around and excited for this year. I'm just joking and being sarcastic rather than trying to pick a fight FYI.

But what he did in the Lions game last season showed how much he has grown.

http://www.csnhouston.com/football-h...coming-his-own

Quote:

Jackson’s growth was on full display against the Detroit Lions and Calvin Johnson on Thanksgiving. Johnson went into the locker room at halftime with five catches for 103 yards and a touchdown. Jackson took over cover duties in the second half and held the single season record holder for receiving yards in check. Matthew Stafford targeted Johnson eight times in the second frame and Jackson held Johnson to just 37 yards and three catches.
And I cant find the quote but Vance Joseph stated that Kareem told him at halftime to lock him on Johnson.

TexansFTW 08-07-2013 12:20 PM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2189587)
But what he did in the Lions game last season showed how much he has grown.

http://www.csnhouston.com/football-h...coming-his-own

And I cant find the quote but Vance Joseph stated that Kareem told him at halftime to lock him on Johnson.

He got Megatron when he was already tired from scorching the field. I'm just joking.

You're right, he's def making positive strides and I'm excited. I'm still not ready for JJo to go anywhere yet, but I like what KJax is doing.

Playoffs 08-07-2013 12:31 PM

Re: Remember when we all hated Kareem Jackson?
 
KJ has shown a tremendous amount of intestinal fortitude in fighting through the crowd of critics to master his craft.

And props to 76T for showing us the way and taking the heat for standing his position.



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