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Texian 07-30-2013 05:04 PM

Texian is Here Ready for 2014
 
Bringing my draft discussions here to Texans Talk. I've decided to leave Houston Texans message board. I hope some of my fellow draftniks will follow me over.

For starters this was my 2014 Texans Mock Draft done a few days after the 2013 NFL Draft.

1. David Fales, QB, San Jose State - Could be the best pure passer in college in 13" (an Aaron Rodgers kinda of story)

2. Marcus Williams, CB, North Dakota State - small school, 2 time All American, 15 INTs in 37 games

3. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, GA Tech

4. Crockett Gilmore, TE, Colo St.

5. Shamiel Gary, SS, Okla St.

6. Louis Young, CB, GA Tech

7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas

and this is my 2013 post draft -Draft for the Texans:

1. Tank Carradine, DE, FSU
2. Robert Alford, CB, SELA
3. Stedman Bailey, WR, WVU
3. Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
4. John Simon, OLB/ILB, OSU
6. Bacari Rambo, FS, UGA
6. Reid Fragel, OT, OSU
6. D. C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers
6. Jonathan Stewart, ILB, TAM

Ready to get 2014 Started.

drs23 07-30-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Texian is Here Ready for 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2186805)
Bringing my draft discussions here to Texans Talk. I've decided to leave Houston Texans message board. I hope some of my fellow draftniks will follow me over.

For starters this was my 2014 Texans Mock Draft done a few days after the 2013 NFL Draft.

1. David Fales, QB, San Jose State - Could be the best pure passer in college in 13" (an Aaron Rodgers kinda of story)

2. Marcus Williams, CB, North Dakota State - small school, 2 time All American, 15 INTs in 37 games

3. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, GA Tech

4. Crockett Gilmore, TE, Colo St.

5. Shamiel Gary, SS, Okla St.

6. Louis Young, CB, GA Tech

7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas

and this is my 2013 post draft -Draft for the Texans:

1. Tank Carradine, DE, FSU
2. Robert Alford, CB, SELA
3. Stedman Bailey, WR, WVU
3. Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
4. John Simon, OLB/ILB, OSU
6. Bacari Rambo, FS, UGA
6. Reid Fragel, OT, OSU
6. D. C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers
6. Jonathan Stewart, ILB, TAM

Ready to get 2014 Started.

Nate's already here. You guys will really like it here around draft time. All year actually.

Don't be shy about signing up for the TT mock draft. It's a hoot.

BTW, Welcome aboard.

revan 07-31-2013 06:37 AM

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Good to have you back man.

steelbtexan 07-31-2013 08:41 AM

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Welcome

Looking forward to you being a TT Mock Draft participant.

We always enjoy the back and forth discussion, without all of the petty childish name calling that happens on other MB's. Rock-N-Randy participted last yr and seemed to have a good time.

htowntexans1985 07-31-2013 01:05 PM

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I made a post on your thread regarding your departure on the other board. On how they ran off one of the best guys on future prospects. And got a 50 point infraction and was given a stern warning by dbruder44. Lol. Those guys have turned that place into their personal boards. All the mods over their are in the same tailgate crew!

Rock N Randy 07-31-2013 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by htowntexans1985 (Post 2187099)
I made a post on your thread regarding your departure on the other board. On how they ran off one of the best guys on future prospects. And got a 50 point infraction and was given a stern warning by dbruder44. Lol. Those guys have turned that place into their personal boards. All the mods over their are in the same tailgate crew!

Lets not get ahead of ours selves
I mean if you wanna crown him, then crown him.
Bahahaha what's good old timer?

Add me

All kidding aside Mr. Texian is a tad old fashioned but I like the simplicity in that and how he looks at prospects
More of a basics kind of fellow
But a keen eye for talent and a beautiful mind

Much respect for this man's opinion when it comes to draft, prospects, breakdowns, and scouting.

badboy 07-31-2013 02:19 PM

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Welcome to all the new guys to the Mock forum. Most of us in here take it seriously and enjoy the back & forth including debate. We do not particularly care for name calling or bashing each other, as we are all Texans fans. Several of us watch a lot of college ball and game film and eagerly share that and appreciate any new info. Some of us also write for blogs and if anyone interested, pm me and I will share that link.

OP I also am watching Fales but have him ranked lower for now due to large number of QBs that could come out. He is an incredibly accurate passer.

revan 07-31-2013 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by htowntexans1985 (Post 2187099)
I made a post on your thread regarding your departure on the other board. On how they ran off one of the best guys on future prospects. And got a 50 point infraction and was given a stern warning by dbruder44. Lol. Those guys have turned that place into their personal boards. All the mods over their are in the same tailgate crew!

Are you serious?. Wow I saw that post didn't see anything wrong with it.

htowntexans1985 07-31-2013 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by revan (Post 2187252)
Are you serious?. Wow I saw that post didn't see anything wrong with it.

Yes sir. He erased the post and gave me 50 points. Warned me not to post in that thread again or "I will be gone." It's gotten ridiculous.

Texian 08-01-2013 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by htowntexans1985 (Post 2187298)
Yes sir. He erased the post and gave me 50 points. Warned me not to post in that thread again or "I will be gone." It's gotten ridiculous.

Sorry to read this H-town, this was never my intent. However your story does not surprise me and it's episodes like this why I decided it was time to move on.

beerlover 08-04-2013 12:34 AM

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welcome Texian, very interested to follow your work :kitten:

Let me begin by saying Texans will not select a QB in the first round in 2014. It's just not their MO. However I do sense a similar pattern @ another coveted & expensive position of need, that you had Texans selecting in 2nd this past draft & 2nd in next years draft & that's cornerback. Do, can or will Texans be able to retain Kareem Jackson? I would assume they lock up Cushing but pay dearly then with Watt on horizon well maybe Roc or Harris can fill the void a year or two? So in the NFL 2014 Draft the Houston Texans select -

Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon 5-10 190

Athletic, physical plays big with natural instincts. Displays fluid hips with plus recovery speed. Really like his game, similar to KJ but better ball skills.

http://rosterwatch.com/2014-nfl-draf...lomu-cb-oregon

http://media.oregonlive.com/ducks_im...3c12949cba.jpg

Texian 08-04-2013 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2188396)
welcome Texian, very interested to follow your work :kitten:

Let me begin by saying Texans will not select a QB in the first round in 2014. It's just not their MO. However I do sense a similar pattern @ another coveted & expensive position of need, that you had Texans selecting in 2nd this past draft & 2nd in next years draft & that's cornerback. Do, can or will Texans be able to retain Kareem Jackson? I would assume they lock up Cushing but pay dearly then with Watt on horizon well maybe Roc or Harris can fill the void a year or two? So in the NFL 2014 Draft the Houston Texans select -

Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon 5-10 190

Athletic, physical plays big with natural instincts. Displays fluid hips with plus recovery speed. Really like his game, similar to KJ but better ball skills.

Thanks for the update beerlover, I will put him on my watch list. You find that I am a bit of a contrarian. At the end of 2010 I was calling and pounding the table for Bob McNair to hire Jim Harbaugh, in the 10' I wanted Bulaga as the #1 pick, last year I said the Texans needed to go all in for RGIII as an answer to Andrew Luck or facing returning to the existence of their first 10 years. When that didn't happen I thought OT Cordy Glenn was the best player for the Texans. Starting 2013 season RT still seems to be the weak link in the O. As for Fales and 2014 it's still early but it is becoming increasingly clear that Schaub does a very good Tony Romo impression just like Tony when the lights are at their brightest.

badboy 08-05-2013 03:37 PM

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Some thoughts on Texans FAs, if redundant it is because I posted them long time ago.

2013 final contract year:

Antonio Smith cap hit $9.5m good player but not great .
Cushing cap hit $4.6m
Wade Smith hit $3.75m goes to Cushing topping him at $8.35m
* Earl Smith hit $0.827 here is kicker but won't get much as a NT.

2014 last contract year:

Watt cap hit $3.75m extend him early '13 off season $3.75 + A.S. 9.5= $13.25 m

Here is where Ric Smith earns his money:

KJ team option 2014 $2.9m
Derek Newton $ .66m
B. Harris $1 m
TJ Yates $ .69m
Carmichael $ .74m

This is without any deals such as:

Manning if cut after 2013 saves $4.5m with $1.5m owed to cap. He turns 31 August 9th
Ed Reed if cut after 2013 saves a little bit & his $5m guaranteed paid end of 2013.

beerlover 08-06-2013 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2188440)
Thanks for the update beerlover, I will put him on my watch list. You find that I am a bit of a contrarian. At the end of 2010 I was calling and pounding the table for Bob McNair to hire Jim Harbaugh, in the 10' I wanted Bulaga as the #1 pick, last year I said the Texans needed to go all in for RGIII as an answer to Andrew Luck or facing returning to the existence of their first 10 years. When that didn't happen I thought OT Cordy Glenn was the best player for the Texans. Starting 2013 season RT still seems to be the weak link in the O. As for Fales and 2014 it's still early but it is becoming increasingly clear that Schaub does a very good Tony Romo impression just like Tony when the lights are at their brightest.

You know it's easy to take a contrarian viewpoint when it comes to the Texans especially the QB position ever since their first awful drafting of David Carr. I think everybody here feels contrarian that the position needs to get more athletic ala RG3. But let's face facts, all chips are in & by all reports Matt is in the best athletic shape of his career, ready for prime time. I also get a strong feeling the future successor is already on the roster in Case Keenam. I just can't see them blow this whole plan apart unless this season does & that is too horrific & negative to contemplate this early with all the positives. My biggest question right now will they keep TJ or move him for a player or future pick (hoping for the latter).

Texian 08-06-2013 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2189127)
You know it's easy to take a contrarian viewpoint when it comes to the Texans especially the QB position ever since their first awful drafting of David Carr. I think everybody here feels contrarian that the position needs to get more athletic ala RG3. But let's face facts, all chips are in & by all reports Matt is in the best athletic shape of his career, ready for prime time. I also get a strong feeling the future successor is already on the roster in Case Keenam. I just can't see them blow this whole plan apart unless this season does & that is too horrific & negative to contemplate this early with all the positives. My biggest question right now will they keep TJ or move him for a player or future pick (hoping for the latter).

It took me awhile to become a contrarian. I was on the Kubiak bandwagon until he hired Frank Bush without doing one interview with one the several available DC that had Top 10 defenses. That said to me Kubiak is more committed to the "Buddy Plan" than a "Commitment to Excellence".

I was one of the first to suggest the Texans go after Matt Schaub. When I suggested Schaub to John McClain he said no way Texans would trade for him. At the time I said Schaub would be a Top 10-15 QB. Well Schaub is a Top 10-15 NFL. A Top 10 QB maybe, maybe not. A Top 5 NO! I'm not sure about this but I think it is possible that some of Schaubs problems might be Kubiak's micro managing of the game and that has Schuab on a very short leash on what he can do and what he can change. Today, Schaub is not the best QB in AFC South and IMHO that will become more and more evident with each passing year. In fact it could become reminiscent of when Peyton Manning was a Colt.

I personally don't think there is any trade value for TJ unless another team suffers a QB injury between now and start of the season.

badboy 08-06-2013 04:26 PM

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Fortunately for our offense a top 5 QB is not needed and one of the reasons I think Keenum could be Texans' future. From info coming from TC, he is a pretty accurate passer as he was in college. It is two different leagues but an indicator of how he might do. I am hoping Schaub & Yates are gone after 2014. Picks or a significant player would be nice. Like BL, I lean towards draft pick. Interesting to see how Case looks after 2 more seasons.

JRingo 08-07-2013 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock N Randy (Post 2187114)
Lets not get ahead of ours selves
I mean if you wanna crown him, then crown him.
Bahahaha what's good old timer?

Add me

All kidding aside Mr. Texian is a tad old fashioned but I like the simplicity in that and how he looks at prospects
More of a basics kind of fellow
But a keen eye for talent and a beautiful mind

Much respect for this man's opinion when it comes to draft, prospects, breakdowns, and scouting.

Agree 100 % with you here Randy. Have always enjoyed his comments as well. Hoping dwrek migrates as well if he hasn't already..

JRingo 08-07-2013 08:06 PM

Re: Texian is Here Ready for 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texian (Post 2186805)
Bringing my draft discussions here to Texans Talk. I've decided to leave Houston Texans message board. I hope some of my fellow draftniks will follow me over.

For starters this was my 2014 Texans Mock Draft done a few days after the 2013 NFL Draft.

1. David Fales, QB, San Jose State - Could be the best pure passer in college in 13" (an Aaron Rodgers kinda of story)

2. Marcus Williams, CB, North Dakota State - small school, 2 time All American, 15 INTs in 37 games

3. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, GA Tech

4. Crockett Gilmore, TE, Colo St.

5. Shamiel Gary, SS, Okla St.

6. Louis Young, CB, GA Tech

7. Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas

and this is my 2013 post draft -Draft for the Texans:

1. Tank Carradine, DE, FSU
2. Robert Alford, CB, SELA
3. Stedman Bailey, WR, WVU
3. Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
4. John Simon, OLB/ILB, OSU
6. Bacari Rambo, FS, UGA
6. Reid Fragel, OT, OSU
6. D. C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers
6. Jonathan Stewart, ILB, TAM

Ready to get 2014 Started.


Glad to see I have found the prodigal child... Look forward to seeing your posts..

steelbtexan 08-07-2013 08:51 PM

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Hopefully Case moves up to QB2 this season, so if anything happens to Schaub Case will be next up. This way we will get a chance to see if Case is the future.

I do believe at this point Schaub is damaged goods. Do to his foot injury he will start out the season strong but fade at the end. The exact opposite of what you want in your QB.

BTW, I'm a Keenum fan.

BullBlitz 08-07-2013 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2189798)
Hopefully Case moves up to QB2 this season, so if anything happens to Schaub Case will be next up. This way we will get a chance to see if Case is the future.

I do believe at this point Schaub is damaged goods. Do to his foot injury he will start out the season strong but fade at the end. The exact opposite of what you want in your QB.

BTW, I'm a Keenum fan.

Same here!


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