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Playoffs 06-03-2013 11:40 AM

Jim Kelly announces that he has cancer
 
Jim Kelly announces that he has cancer

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On the day when Jim Kelly gathers together friends, former teammates, local and national celebrities for the cause named after his late son, the Buffalo Bills Hall of Fame quarterback announced that he has cancer.

Kelly issued a statement Monday morning, the same day his 27th annual golf tournament kicked off to benefit his Hunter’s Hope Foundation and other pediatric causes. The former quarterback was diagnosed with bone cancer in his jaw. He’s scheduled to have surgery this Friday.

“This past couple of weeks has been difficult for me,” Kelly said in his statement. “I was recently diagnosed with Squamous-cell carcinoma of the upper jaw bone.”

The good news is after a recent examination it was discovered that the cancer has not spread.

“I have undergone tests which have shown that the cancer is isolated to my upper jaw and has not spread to other parts of my body. Doctors have told me that the prognosis for my recovery is very good.”
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For all cases of bone cancer combined the five-year survival rate is 70 percent according to the American Cancer Society.
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Speedy 06-03-2013 12:20 PM

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Sad to hear. Always been a big fan of JK.

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thunderkyss 06-03-2013 12:28 PM

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Poor guy, wouldn't wish that on anybody

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 2170087)
Sad to hear. Always been a big fan of JK.

Me too. Loved watching him play. Loved it when he was inducted to the HOF.

Lucky 06-03-2013 12:33 PM

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Hope he beats it. IMO, Kelly is the best QB in Houston pro football history.

CloakNNNdagger 06-03-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2170081)

The overall 5-year survival rate for this particular cancer is reported as ~60-70%; the recurrence rate is 33%. Approximately 50% of these cancers are not picked up prior to advanced stages....so that apparently is a good thing in Kelly's case. If they have found no formal metastasis (spread to other parts of the body), the main question for accurate prognosis will come if following the surgery, the removed segment shows margins that are free of tumor. Patients found to have any none-free resection margins tend to die within 5 years, most within the 1st year. Furthermore, if there is involvement is of the upper jaw sinus (maxillary [cheek] sinus), the prognosis tends to fall to less than 1/2 in all categories. Hopefully, the cancer does not involve the sinus, nor does it lend itself to findings upon final pathology report of non-free margins (left behind cancer) non-resectable cancer.

As a reconstructive surgeon, I have performed my share of maxillary cancer reconstructions. As cure is the goal, radical excision is the rule, with reconstruction typically far from a non-formidable undertaking for both the surgeon and the patient. My prayers go out to Kelly that there are no surprises for the man who I had the privilege of knowing back in the day of the Gamblers.

b0ng 06-03-2013 12:58 PM

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Here's to hoping that Kelly can finally beat something.

eriadoc 06-03-2013 12:59 PM

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Crossing my fingers for him. I will always have fond memories of the Gamblers.

Playoffs 06-03-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2170097)
...My prayers go out to Kelly that there are no surprises for the man who I had the privilege of knowing back in the day of the Gamblers.

And mine, Doc .... and mine. Thanks.

CloakNNNdagger 06-03-2013 02:20 PM

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The most common causative agents of oral cancers are found in tobacco and alcohol. Anyone remember Nick Buoniconti. He got his law degree during his years with the Patriots and became a practicing attorney for a short while. What most of you don't know is that he served as president of the US Tobacco Company during the late 1970s and early 1980s and was a leading critic of studies which showed that smokeless tobacco caused cancer of the mouth as well as other types of cancer. Now, there is no doubt of the cause and effect. However, during those years, he spoke widely to his football brethren debunking this cause and effect obvious relationship, and encouraged them to the positives of engaging in snuff..........to the point that free sample were distributed by him gratuitously to teams and players of the era. Thank you, Nick.

BTW, 40% of head and neck cancers have been found to be associated with Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), the same virus that has been associated with female cervix cancer. In fact, coincidentally, 2 weeks ago, there was a landmark Australian study that identified Head and Neck cancers, including esophageal cancer as an "epidemic" problem specifically in white males who have engaged in oral sex with multiple partners.

Playoffs 06-03-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2170122)
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BTW, 40% of head and neck cancers have been found to be associated with Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), the same virus that has been associated with female cervix cancer. In fact, coincidentally, 2 weeks ago, there was a landmark Australian study that identified Head and Neck cancers, including esophageal cancer as an "epidemic" problem specifically in white males who have engaged in oral sex with multiple partners.

So there is some truth to this ... ?

Oral sex and throat cancer: Michael Douglas HPV report spotlights "epidemic"

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Michael Douglas's announcement that his throat cancer was caused by human papillomavirus, a sexually transmitted disease, has raised awareness about a men's health trend doctors have been alarmed about for years.
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"... without wanting to get too specific, this particular cancer is caused by HPV, which actually comes about from cunnilingus," Douglas told the paper... it's a sexually transmitted disease that causes cancer."

Lucky 06-03-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2170122)
BTW, 40% of head and neck cancers have been found to be associated with Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), the same virus that has been associated with female cervix cancer.

That's frightening. Can you be tested for the virus?

CloakNNNdagger 06-03-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2170173)
That's frightening. Can you be tested for the virus?

HPV is not carried in the blood or fluids, making it impossible to really "screen" for. HPV is usually diagnosed after lesions are caused. An extremely expensive HPV DNA testing can only be performed for identification after suspected abnormal tissue sample is submitted as in the case of PAP smear. It is therefore seldom used even after abnormal tissue has already been identified. There is an HPV test available which can test for the presence of a number of strains of HPV. This is not a test for cancer. HPV tests are available in Australia but are only subsidised by the government in a limited number of cases. Because most HPV infections usually resolve naturally, and there is no cure, there is little reason to have an HPV test.

Virtually all of us will have had HPV by the age of 30. Approximately 90-95% of us will have cleared it through our own immune system within 2 years. It is the 5-10% that will act as a "Typhoid Mary" and spread the joy. To date, there is no "cure" for HPV. And now, it is not entirely agreed upon whether the virus is completely eliminated or reduced to undetectable levels in the 90-95% group, and it is difficult to know when it is contagious.........and, therefore you can never be sure that you are no longer at risk. Lastly, condoms aren't truly protected because the genitalia are not entirely covered......and oral male to genital female is obviously totally unprotected.

That is why there is a push to vaccinate young girls.........and now even discussion for the same in young boys. To add a little more scare to the picture, 30 percent of cancers originate from HPV strains not covered by the vaccine. Who knows, if we don't choose this approach (or even if we do), it may force us into going back to the dark ages when no man wanted a lady that wasn't a virgin !

Cjeremy635 06-03-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2170185)
HPV is not carried in the blood or fluids, making it impossible to really "screen" for. HPV is usually diagnosed after lesions are caused. An extremely expensive HPV DNA testing can only be performed for identification after suspected abnormal tissue sample is submitted as in the case of PAP smear. It is therefore seldom used even after abnormal tissue has already been identified. There is an HPV test available which can test for the presence of a number of strains of HPV. This is not a test for cancer. HPV tests are available in Australia but are only subsidised by the government in a limited number of cases. Because most HPV infections usually resolve naturally, and there is no cure, there is little reason to have an HPV test.

Virtually all of us will have had HPV by the age of 30. Approximately 90-95% of us will have cleared it through our own immune system within 2 years. It is the 5-10% that will act as a "Typhoid Mary" and spread the joy. To date, there is no "cure" for HPV. And now, it is not entirely agreed upon whether the virus is completely eliminated or reduced to undetectable levels in the 90-95% group, and it is difficult to know when it is contagious.........and, therefore you can never be sure that you are no longer at risk. Lastly, condoms aren't truly protected because the genitalia are not entirely covered......and oral male to genital female is obviously totally unprotected.

That is why there is a push to vaccinate young girls.........and now even discussion for the same in young boys. To add a little more scare to the picture, 30 percent of cancers originate from HPV strains not covered by the vaccine. Who knows, if we don't choose this approach (or even if we do), it may force us into going back to the dark ages when no man wanted a lady that wasn't a virgin !

Hmmm...maybe those BDSM freaks in full on body or facial latex are on to something. Technically it's like a full body condom. If that becomes mainstream, then I'll just hang an "out of order" tag on my tongue. I'm way too claustrophobic for a body condom. Lol.

CloakNNNdagger 06-09-2013 12:43 PM

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Jim Kelly had 'major cyst,' teeth removed earlier this year


June 3, 2013 - 11:20 AM


By Tim Graham

Jim Kelly revealed to an Illinois newspaper nearly three months ago a "major cyst" was removed from his mouth and teeth needed to be extracted this year.

Kelly announced this morning he has cancer in his upper jaw. At an appearance in March for the Central Illinois Fellowship of Christian Athletes, the Hall of Fame quarterback gave Jim Ruppert of the State Journal-Register a rundown of recent medical issues and mentioned the earlier mouth operation.

"I've had four major surgeries in the last two years," Kelly said. "Major back surgery, plates and screws in my back two years ago. Five months after that double-hernia surgery. Then 12/12/12 at 12 o'clock I had major neck surgery, where they had to replace three disks in my neck and put a plate and six screws in my neck.

"And then a week and a half ago they found a major cyst from my gums to my nasal cavity, and they had to cut that out -- the size of a nickel -- and they had to pull out all of my front teeth."
I found this more detailed bit of information, that was not revealed in most other reports. This was a cancer that involved the gingiva (gums) and the maxillary sinus. It evidently was not recognized for over 3 months. I am now not surprised that now the surgeons carefully word their prognosis as "We expect a successful OUTCOME" or "We expect a successful RECOVERY" or "The prognosis for RECOVERY is very good" instead of "We expect or are hopeful of a CURE." The reason is very easily explained by the fact that in cases as described for Kelly, even after not initially detecting spread to the neck lymph nodes, ~80% will have developed such now "detectable" spread within 18 months. This is a factor which would significantly worsen the prognosis. I would be very surprised if post operative chemotherapy and/or possible radical neck dissection is not being contemplated. Some would even consider adjunct radiation therapy.

As Thunderkyss aptly put it, I "wouldn't wish that on anybody."

EDIT ADDITION: The story gets even worse with the information from this other source. Evidently, delayed diagnosis was not 3 months, but ~6 months, with the initial thinking that it was simply an infection.

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Kelly’s diagnosis stems from pain he began experiencing in his jaw in December. He initially thought it was an infection, but grew concerned when antibiotics failed to help.

Tests eventually led to doctors removing a nickel-sized cyst from his gums and nasal cavity during an operation in early March. Follow-up tests revealed the cancer.
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CloakNNNdagger 03-14-2014 05:34 PM

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Unfortunately, Kelly's cancer has recurred.

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bi...-back-20140314

Showtime100 03-14-2014 05:40 PM

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Damn. I met him once. At that bar on or near Richmond where all those NY Mets got in trouble (name anyone?). I walked away a bigger fan after the encounter than before I met him. He was a heck of a nice guy.

My thoughts and prayers go out to Jim and the Kelly family.

Heath Shuler 03-14-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime100 (Post 2312223)
Damn. I met him once. At that bar on or near Richmond where all those NY Mets got in trouble (name anyone?).

Cooter's, I think.

I've always liked him. He spoke at our high school football banquet; nice guy.

Showtime100 03-14-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath Shuler (Post 2312242)
Cooter's, I think.

I've always liked him. He spoke at our high school football banquet; nice guy.

Cooters! Yeah, thanks Heath. :)

Thorn 03-14-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2312219)
Unfortunately, Kelly's cancer has recurred.

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bi...-back-20140314

I wish him nothing but luck in beating this.

CloakNNNdagger 03-14-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorn (Post 2312276)
I wish him nothing but luck in beating this.

Based on the information that I was able to determine at the original time of posting (see previous posts), along with my surgical experience with this type of cancer, without any unknown extenuating circumstances, 6 months may be a generous estimate of survival following recurrence.

With that said, my prayers go out to Jim and his family for an exceptional outcome.


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