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SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 05:51 PM

Cushing's health
 
I have some good news. A friend of mine has a gym and was working out with Cushing and my friend indicated nothing negative and was very positive so this is a good thing. I don't trust the Texans medical staff so I was happy to see this.

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SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 06:26 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Old Miss Texan knows the guy on the right just so you know that I am not bull ****ting. Would tell you the name of the gym but it's probably best not to.

paycheck71 05-18-2013 07:23 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SW H-TOWN (Post 2165895)
I don't trust the Texans medical staff

Glad to hear Cush is doing well.

I've always wondered, though. When people say that they don't trust the Texans med staff, do they mean that they don't think their doctors are competent? Or do they mean that the med staff don't have the players' best interest in mind, only the Texans? Or do they mean the they don't share every medical detail with the world, and at times maybe mislead the world?

thunderkyss 05-18-2013 07:28 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
The thing that worries me about the Med staff, is that they have Matt Schaub out there playing on a broken foot. They cleared Andre for 100% duty when they should have erred on the safe side, same with Foster.

Newton was out there playing on a bum knee, then had to have "major" surgery after the season.

They didn't know Cushing was pregnant.

The list goes on & on.

paycheck71 05-18-2013 07:41 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2165915)
The thing that worries me about the Med staff, is that they have Matt Schaub out there playing on a broken foot. They cleared Andre for 100% duty when they should have erred on the safe side, same with Foster.

Newton was out there playing on a bum knee, then had to have "major" surgery after the season.

They didn't know Cushing was pregnant.

The list goes on & on.

I think, in general, the NFL culture, when it comes to injuries, is to be a cowboy, rub some dirt on it, and keep playing. Do you remember how much grief Cutler caught when he pulled himself out of a playoff game two years ago because of an injury? A legitimate injury.

That is very different from MLB, for example, where if a pitchers arm even feels funny, he's pulled out and doesn't play again until he's 100% again.

I think every team's medical staff modifies their decisions to some degree based on what the coaches want them to do. They work for the team, and the players' health is secondary, whether they will admit it or not. Given those parameters, I have no basis to believe that the Texans med staff is any better or worse than any other NFL team. Look at the nightmare Gronk is going through. Or the way the Manning situation was handled in Indy. I don't know how much NFL doctors are paid, but I would imagine that working for yourself, or working for a major hospital is more appealing than working for a business where your decisions can't be entirely independent. So, given that, you probably can't attract the best of the best to begin with.

SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 07:43 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paycheck71 (Post 2165912)
Glad to hear Cush is doing well.

I've always wondered, though. When people say that they don't trust the Texans med staff, do they mean that they don't think their doctors are competent? Or do they mean that the med staff don't have the players' best interest in mind, only the Texans? Or do they mean the they don't share every medical detail with the world, and at times maybe mislead the world?

Very competent.

Team first over player.

Share details with the team but by the time the media gets the info a lot of the time somebody seems to have changed the story to benefit the team.

Look at RG3 or all the times they let guys go back into the games with concussions in the past when they did not even know where they were.

Where are you, "Mmm, I don't know. Let me back into the &%*%^$#@ game!!!" Ready to go.

SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 07:45 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2165915)
The thing that worries me about the Med staff, is that they have Matt Schaub out there playing on a broken foot. They cleared Andre for 100% duty when they should have erred on the safe side, same with Foster.

Newton was out there playing on a bum knee, then had to have "major" surgery after the season.

They didn't know Cushing was pregnant.

The list goes on & on.

Rep, perfectly said.

Fili 05-18-2013 07:56 PM

Not surprised. His injury is commonly dealt with as an athlete.

SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 08:07 PM

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[quote=Fili;2165924]Not surprised. His injury is commonly dealt with as an athlete.[/QUOTE

You are right, this is a very common injury but not everybody jumps out of the operating room like AP. Adrian Peterson, what a freak.

CloakNNNdagger 05-18-2013 08:09 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paycheck71 (Post 2165918)
I think, in general, the NFL culture, when it comes to injuries, is to be a cowboy, rub some dirt on it, and keep playing. Do you remember how much grief Cutler caught when he pulled himself out of a playoff game two years ago because of an injury? A legitimate injury.

I think every team's medical staff modifies their decisions to some degree based on what the coaches want them to do. They work for the team, and the players' health is secondary, whether they will admit it or not. Given those parameters, I have no basis to believe that the Texans med staff is any better or worse than any other NFL team. Look at the nightmare Gronk is going through. Or the way the Manning situation was handled in Indy. I don't know how much NFL doctors are paid, but I would imagine that working for yourself, or working for a major hospital is more appealing than working for a business where your decisions can't be entirely independent. So, given that, you probably can't attract the best of the best to begin with.


I guess some of us have a better memory than others..........or at least a less selective one..........

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SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 08:13 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Also when Cushing's knee was cleaned out it took him a while to get back to his regular playing form. I would say longer than expected so I was worried that he would be behind schedule but he seems to be doing good.

IDEXAN 05-18-2013 08:30 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SW H-TOWN (Post 2165895)
I have some good news. A friend of mine has a gym and was working out with Cushing and my friend indicated nothing negative and was very positive so this is a good thing. I don't trust the Texans medical staff so I was happy to see this.

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OK can you atleast reveal the region of your "friends" gym " ? Someplace in Texas, or maybe SoCal, perhaps the state of NJ ?

DocBar 05-18-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
I just hope Cush doesn't get "pregnant" again while rehabbing. :bat:
You know the temptation is there.

paycheck71 05-18-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2165927)
I guess some of us have a better memory than others..........or at least a less selective one..........

http://www.calbuzz.com/wp-content/up...ayala0332c.jpg
http://rudderyaw.files.wordpress.com...do-no-harm.jpg

I'm assuming this means that you agree with me that NFL doctors work for their employers and not necessarily their patients. I certainly didn't mean to insult all doctors by saying that some of them forget or "bend" the promises they made.

SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 08:49 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Houston. Sorry, can't tell you any more. Just that it is a nasty place. Nothing like Alabama's new facility.

CloakNNNdagger 05-18-2013 08:59 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paycheck71 (Post 2165936)
I'm assuming this means that you agree with me that NFL doctors work for their employers and not necessarily their patients. I certainly didn't mean to insult all doctors by saying that some of them forget or "bend" the promises they made.

Unfortunately, I agree with your assessments.

SW H-TOWN 05-18-2013 09:39 PM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2165931)
OK can you atleast reveal the region of your "friends" gym " ? Someplace in Texas, or maybe SoCal, perhaps the state of NJ ?

I'll give you one more since you are so interested. What general area does Cush hang out at, where does he do those tweets from? The guy, my "friend" as you like to put it in quotes went to High School and the University with me. Played baseball with him for a couple of years starting in 95. I don't want to say his name because I don't want guys who are so interested going over there...Don't believe me, ask Old Miss Texan. He knows me and the guy you are so "interested in."

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocBar (Post 2165933)
I just hope Cush doesn't get "pregnant" again while rehabbing. :bat:
You know the temptation is there.

He would have to be an idiot to do that and I doubt he would do it in Houston. When you are famous you associate with 2 types of people. Other famous people or people who knew you before you blew up. Probably a little out of his comfort zone.

NJ would be too obvious. They would focus in on the one area, where he works out at.

It would be around USC IMO. A guy he could trust. The USC campus, like any huge campus, is easy to get lost in. Lots of small rooms that would lend themselves to clandestine meetings. You can never underestimate the stupidity of another person but I seriously doubt he would do that. He was busted once so he has to know that they got him on the radar coming off an ACL and all.

bckey 05-18-2013 10:59 PM

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Malloy 05-19-2013 03:05 AM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2165927)



To the TEAM you mean ? ;)

ObsiWan 05-19-2013 07:05 AM

Re: Cushing's health
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Malloy (Post 2165977)
To the TEAM you mean ? ;)

In some cases, I think it meant
..."to my paycheck".


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