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badboy 05-13-2013 02:50 PM

June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Any players you think Texans may be interested in June 1st?
Any Texans you think might be cut?

Texn4life 05-13-2013 03:41 PM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
I would expect for a Veteran corner to be brought in. Don't know if it'll be a cut casualty or a free agent still out there, but it would surprise me if that didn't happen.

Dutchrudder 05-13-2013 03:55 PM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
There are plenty of guys still out there that could help this team. I'd be looking for vets that will agree to a minimum deal to come have a chance at a ring. Guys like:

Casey Hampton
Justin Bannan
Sedrick Ellis
Maake Kemoeatu
Richard Seymour

You know, someone that can play NT or rotate in on 3rd downs. I think we really lack depth there. I would also like to see another DB and LB added.

drs23 05-13-2013 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2163951)
There are plenty of guys still out there that could help this team. I'd be looking for vets that will agree to a minimum deal to come have a chance at a ring. Guys like:

Casey Hampton
Justin Bannan
Sedrick Ellis
Maake Kemoeatu
Richard Seymour

You know, someone that can play NT or rotate in on 3rd downs. I think we really lack depth there. I would also like to see another DB and LB added.

I don't think it's just me but we NEED to shore up the ILB core. Perhaps just coachspeak as has been pointed out prior about not moving BR inside but something has to be done or we're right back to where we were last season. IMHO

ObsiWan 05-13-2013 06:09 PM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2163951)
There are plenty of guys still out there that could help this team. I'd be looking for vets that will agree to a minimum deal to come have a chance at a ring. Guys like:

Casey Hampton
Justin Bannan
Sedrick Ellis
Maake Kemoeatu
Richard Seymour

You know, someone that can play NT or rotate in on 3rd downs. I think we really lack depth there. I would also like to see another DB and LB added.

Do you REALLY think Seymour or Ellis or Hampton will play for vet min?? I have my doubts.

Nawzer 05-13-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drs23 (Post 2163996)
I don't think it's just me but we NEED to shore up the ILB core. Perhaps just coachspeak as has been pointed out prior about not moving BR inside but something has to be done or we're right back to where we were last season. IMHO

The linebacking corp is the weakest spot on this team imo. We're counting on Cushing to be 100% which is in all likelihood not realistic given the severity of his injury. We don't know who's going to lineup next to him yet. And if it's someone like Sharpton well enjoy watching him get run over or beat in the passing game. Tim Dobbins is a nice backup, but he's just that: a backup and nothing more. The OLB situation is unsettled as well with Whitney Mercilus the only guaranteed starter and even then I'm not sure if he's ready to be a starter yet. Brooks Reed had an uneven year so he's a bit of a question mark too and who knows where he'll line up??? We have a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders who will get significant playing time at the OLB positions even though they have limited to no experience playing those positions. All in all, it's a pretty worrisome picture for a team that runs the 3-4 defense (or some version of it at least) and it doesn't inspire any hope in me that this team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

badboy 05-13-2013 09:23 PM

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I am watching those known FAs still out there but was hoping more for someone I have missed that is on a team that has a solid young vet who would move to starter with maybe a draft pick of some renown as back up allowing team to cut the starter from last season. I do not know the other rosters well at all and hoped you guys may have identified some possibilities.

steelbtexan 05-13-2013 09:31 PM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Bring Hampton Home,

He probably wont be signed until after the 2nd game of the yr. (Like Pollard) So they dont have to garuntee his contract. I dont know if the Texans have enough cap space to sign any FA's vet minimum or not.

infantrycak 05-13-2013 09:33 PM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2164066)
I am watching those known FAs still out there but was hoping more for someone I have missed that is on a team that has a solid young vet who would move to starter with maybe a draft pick of some renown as back up allowing team to cut the starter from last season. I do not know the other rosters well at all and hoped you guys may have identified some possibilities.

Desmond Bishop is rumored to be on the trade block.

SW H-TOWN 05-13-2013 09:38 PM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Desmond bishop, period.

CloakNNNdagger 05-13-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nawzer (Post 2164033)
The linebacking corp is the weakest spot on this team imo. We're counting on Cushing to be 100% which is in all likelihood not realistic given the severity of his injury. We don't know who's going to lineup next to him yet. And if it's someone like Sharpton well enjoy watching him get run over or beat in the passing game. Tim Dobbins is a nice backup, but he's just that: a backup and nothing more. The OLB situation is unsettled as well with Whitney Mercilus the only guaranteed starter and even then I'm not sure if he's ready to be a starter yet. Brooks Reed had an uneven year so he's a bit of a question mark too and who knows where he'll line up??? We have a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders who will get significant playing time at the OLB positions even though they have limited to no experience playing those positions. All in all, it's a pretty worrisome picture for a team that runs the 3-4 defense (or some version of it at least) and it doesn't inspire any hope in me that this team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Cushing is certainly not a given..........and Sharpton will be lucky to be medically cleared sometime during training camp..........after that, with the combination of his type of prior injuries and surgeries, we may find that the spit, bubble gum and Elmer's glue holding him together may not work very long once he finds his way back onto the field. We need TWO additional reliable ILBs to allow for the "ifs" that haunt this squad. Brooks MAY be one.......we don't even know that for sure. What I do know is that if the Texans maintain an air of false security at that position by taking for granted that the old Cushing and the new Sharpton are going to be "there" when they need them, it could be a very long season for the D.

badboy 05-13-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by infantrycak (Post 2164075)
Desmond Bishop is rumored to be on the trade block.

Ok, great, this is what I am looking for.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...desmond-bishop

2010 & 2011 very good stats & supposedly ready for this season after hammy and 28 YOA $3.5m for '13 & '14.

Do we have anything to trade?

jppaul 05-14-2013 12:36 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2164090)
Ok, great, this is what I am looking for.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...desmond-bishop

2010 & 2011 very good stats & supposedly ready for this season after hammy and 28 YOA $3.5m for '13 & '14.

Do we have anything to trade?

Ben Tate? Isn't he a ufa after this year?

SW H-TOWN 05-14-2013 12:40 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2164090)
Ok, great, this is what I am looking for.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...desmond-bishop

2010 & 2011 very good stats & supposedly ready for this season after hammy and 28 YOA $3.5m for '13 & '14.

Do we have anything to trade?

Draft picks or wait until he is cut. The Packers are having a hard time finding a trade partner so they would probably take a lower draft pick than one would think. Everybody knows that he will be cut because they will save over 3 million in cap space. The Packers signed Brad Jones to a 3 year 11.75m contract so Bishop is gone. We need to get this guy.

SW H-TOWN 05-14-2013 12:57 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Here is what I wrote the have the Texan found their ILB thread, the first 2 options are why should look at option 3.

Now we have 3 options. Move Reed inside and play a rookie and 2nd year player at the OLB positions, keep Reed outside and have Dobbins play inside, or sign an ILB and keep Reed outside. IMO the best case scenario is to sign Desmond Bishop. The Packers are trying to trade Bishop and will cut him if they can't trade him because I believe they will save over 3 million against the cap. Hope we pull a Daryl Morey and make it happen. Desmond Bishop would be a great move.

Here is an article that explains his situation and why he will be cut, except for what they will save against the cap.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/3...hop-price-high

ubecool454 05-14-2013 01:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2163951)
There are plenty of guys still out there that could help this team. I'd be looking for vets that will agree to a minimum deal to come have a chance at a ring. Guys like:

Casey Hampton
Justin Bannan
Sedrick Ellis
Maake Kemoeatu
Richard Seymour

You know, someone that can play NT or rotate in on 3rd downs. I think we really lack depth there. I would also like to see another DB and LB added.

on your list the only one that I would want is Richard Seymour.

Texn4life 05-14-2013 02:14 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ubecool454 (Post 2164118)
on your list the only one that I would want is Richard Seymour.

You would want Seymour to be a backup? He wouldn't come here to sit behind Watt and Smith. The only starter on that list is Hampton and he would be a situational player as well. The difference is he wants to play here, and no one knows what Seymour wants to do.

I'd be good with having Bishop come here at the right price, and I think I'd even sign Jason Allen to come back on a 1 year deal. If we could somehow get those 2 guys with Hampton I would be on cloud 9.

ArlingtonTexan 05-14-2013 08:52 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Is June even still an important cut date? Seems once they allowed teams to designate a player as a June 1 cut, that nothing interesting happens any more.

badboy 05-14-2013 09:15 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jppaul (Post 2164113)
Ben Tate? Isn't he a ufa after this year?

Unless one of our UDFA (I am rooting for Cierre Wood) lays claim, I'm think we hold on to Tate. Despite his injuries, he has proven what he can do when on the field + he is cheap. IMO, we need to take some work load off Foster.

steelbtexan 05-14-2013 09:20 AM

Re: June cuts Texans interested in?
 
I would love for the Texans to bring in Bishop and Hampton. The Question is how do they clear the cap space to make it happen? Ideas?


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