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Mari-OWNED!
04-27-2013, 07:46 PM
Per SBNation.com (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/27/4276394/undrafted-free-agent-tracker-2013)

Houston Texans

Ja'Gared Davis, LB, SMU

Mike Golic Jr., OL, Notre Dame

Ray Graham, RB, Pittsburgh

Travis Howard, CB, Ohio State

Willie Jefferson, OLB, Stephen F. Austin

Justin Tuggle, LB, Kansas State
Well maybe ESPN will give the Texans a little more love now that we got Golic's son!

Edit: Actually maybe the source is no bueno. Golic Jr. reportedly signed with the Steelers...

kingtexan
04-27-2013, 07:50 PM
Per SBNation.com (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/27/4276394/undrafted-free-agent-tracker-2013)


Well maybe ESPN will give the Texans a little more love now that we got Golic's son!

Got Jesse Tuggles son also.

Rey
04-27-2013, 07:54 PM
Getting inside info on Willie Jefferson from my brother right now. I know he is a big tall kid that is a good edge rusher.

Going to my brothers games he certainly stood out. Can rush the passer really well.

badboy
04-27-2013, 07:55 PM
Any one have a list of good prospects we could be interested in?

kingtexan
04-27-2013, 07:55 PM
Jags got Scott and Aaron Rodgers lil bro.

Rey
04-27-2013, 07:57 PM
My brother says he's a good pass rusher but needs to get stronger. He played WR at Baylor before going to SFA.

Thorn
04-27-2013, 07:59 PM
got this from a site

Houston Texans
•Travis Howard, CB, Ohio State
•Willie Jefferson, OLB, Stephen F. Austin
•Justin Tuggle, LB, Kansas State

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/04/27/2013-nfl-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list/?UW0YHaAHrG3gGFXP.99

NitroGSXR
04-27-2013, 08:00 PM
I hope we sign Tony Tatum from Gallaudet.

Yeah... a wee bit of bias from me but the kid really is good.

Thorn
04-27-2013, 08:02 PM
got this from another site

http://network.yardbarker.com/college_football/article_external/2013_undrafted_free_agent_signings_running_list/13501226

Texans:
•Kansas State LB Justin Tuggle
•OLB Willie Jefferson
•SMU LB Ja’Gared Davis
•Florida DE Earl Okine
•Ohio State FB Zach Boren
•Illinois State LB Evan Frierson
•Pittsburgh RB Ray Graham
•Texas A&M WR Uzoma Nwachukwu
•Michigan Lb Kenny Demens
•Cincinnati RB George Winn
•Miami (OH) Wr Andy Cruse

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 08:03 PM
I've watched Graham since he was a Frosh and was pleased to hear we got him. Then noticed he ran a 4.8 at the combine. Hopefully we hit on him like another UDFA that was considered too slow.

wolf123
04-27-2013, 08:03 PM
My brother says he's a good pass rusher but needs to get stronger. He played WR at Baylor before going to SFA.

He's a immature pot head. Hope he's matured but he's been run out of two programs already.

honored82
04-27-2013, 08:06 PM
Got this from another website....

Houston Texans UDFA
Justin Tuggle, LB, Kansas State
Travis Howard, CB, Ohio St
Willie Jefferson, DE, Stephen F. Austin
Graham Pocic, OL, Illinois
Ja’Gared Davis, LB, SMU
Ray Graham, RB, Pitt
Uzoma Nwachukwu, WR, Texas A&M
Kenny Demens, LB, Michigan
Orhian Johnson, S, Ohio State

srrono
04-27-2013, 08:11 PM
Wow I doing all this in the thread you guys moved. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99922

kingtexan
04-27-2013, 08:13 PM
Uzoma Nwachukwu, WR, Texas A&M


That's gonna be a SWEET jersey.

srrono
04-27-2013, 08:15 PM
Texans signing below

LB Justin Tuggle Kansas State

DB Travis Howard Ohio State

C Graham Pocic Illinois

FB Zach Boren Ohio State

DE Earl Okine Florida

LB Ja'Gared Davis SMU

DE Willie Jefferson Stephen F. Austin

WR Marlon Brown Georgia

OL Dann O'Neill WesternMichigan

RB Ray Graham Pittsburgh

WR Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M

OT Jon Opperud Montana

LB Kenny Demens Michigan

P Andrew Shapiro Fresno State

RB George Winn Cincinnati

WR Andy Cruse Miami (OH)

S Orhian Johnson Ohio State

OL Bryan Collins SMU

RB Dennis Johnson Arkansas

OG Alex Kupper Louisville

QB Colin Klein Kansas St. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99922)

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 08:16 PM
Wow, 21 already. Smith doing work, I like it.

NitroGSXR
04-27-2013, 08:18 PM
We sure did get busy quick.

Goodwrench3
04-27-2013, 08:18 PM
Colin Klein also signed


@ckleincat7: So excited and honored to be given a chance to compete for the Houston Texans! #Godisgood #gotowork

kingtexan
04-27-2013, 08:23 PM
Colin Klein also signed


@ckleincat7: So excited and honored to be given a chance to compete for the Houston Texans! #Godisgood #gotowork

Interesting. Very interesting as he is reported to have everything you look for, just needs to be molded.

fore
04-27-2013, 08:23 PM
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 1m
RT @chitribhamilton: #NotreDame RB Cierre Wood tweets that he indeed signed a free agent deal with the #Texans

CloakNNNdagger
04-27-2013, 08:24 PM
QB Colin Klein Kansas St. ................Tebow version II...........would make a much better TE

Lurvinator11
04-27-2013, 08:25 PM
I can't believe we got Collin Klein. It would be interesting to see him work out.

For the record though, that is 5 QBs on the roster.

infantrycak
04-27-2013, 08:44 PM
Wow I doing all this in the thread you guys moved. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99922

That is for all the fish in the sea. This is for the fish the Texans have landed.

EVOLVIST
04-27-2013, 08:45 PM
I can't believe we got Collin Klein. It would be interesting to see him work out.

For the record though, that is 5 QBs on the roster.

That's okay. For the record, besides Duane Brown, we now have 6 tackles.

Andrew Gardner
Ryan Harris
Nick Mondek
Derek Newton
David Quesenberry
Brennen Williams

I mean, how many tackles do you need for depth and development?

kingtexan
04-27-2013, 08:47 PM
That's okay. For the record, besides Duane Brown, we now have 6 tackles.

Andrew Gardner
Ryan Harris
Nick Mondek
Derek Newton
David Quesenberry
Brennen Williams

I mean, how many tackles do you need for depth and development?

Starting right and starting left. Back-up right and back-up left. One for PS?

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 08:48 PM
That's okay. For the record, besides Duane Brown, we now have 6 tackles.

Andrew Gardner
Ryan Harris
Nick Mondek
Derek Newton
David Quesenberry
Brennen Williams

I mean, how many tackles do you need for depth and development?

In camp you need a lot. Plus its possible Ques might be projected at guard.

Fili
04-27-2013, 08:49 PM
Probably see what Collin Klein turns out to be TE/QB. Great athlete.

EVOLVIST
04-27-2013, 08:50 PM
Starting right and starting left. Back-up right and back-up left. One for PS?

That would be 3 tackles left over after you factor in the starters and their backups. 7 - 4 = 3. :wadepalm:

kingtexan
04-27-2013, 08:53 PM
That would be 3 tackles left over after you factor in the starters and their backups. 7 - 4 = 3. :wadepalm:

Yes. They may have a plan for one or two of them at another position, or just are looking for the best out of the group and will cull out the rest. Never hurts to have many options going into camp.

bckey
04-27-2013, 08:58 PM
I really like the Dennis Johnson signing.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 09:24 PM
That's okay. For the record, besides Duane Brown, we now have 6 tackles.

Andrew Gardner
Ryan Harris
Nick Mondek
Derek Newton
David Quesenberry
Brennen Williams

I mean, how many tackles do you need for depth and development?

Newton had major reconstructive knee surgery. He'll miss OTAs & mini camp. Not sure about camp.

Insideop
04-27-2013, 09:24 PM
In camp you need a lot. Plus its possible Ques might be projected at guard.

This may be correct. Quessenberry can play OT, OG, and OC. That was one of the reasons he was rising up the draft boards. He is probably more suited to play OC and OG and Walter Football had him listed as an OC/OG to go somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'd say we got pretty good value for that pick, especially if he turns out to be a good player.

Rey
04-27-2013, 09:26 PM
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 1m
RT @chitribhamilton: #NotreDame RB Cierre Wood tweets that he indeed signed a free agent deal with the #Texans

Man...we are getting some good free agents...

bckey
04-27-2013, 09:33 PM
Man...we are getting some good free agents...

Another good th signing. Gonna some good competition in camp.

SAMURAITEXAN
04-27-2013, 09:37 PM
29 UDFA!!! Talk about being aggressive.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 09:37 PM
QB Colin Klein Kansas St
RB Cierre Wood Notre Dame
RB Dennis Johnson Arkansas
RB George Winn Cincinnati
RB Ray Graham Pittsburgh
FB Zach Boren Ohio State
WR Andy Cruse Miami OH
WR Marlon Brown Georgia
WR Michael Smith UConn
WR Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M
C Graham Pocic Illinois
OG Alex Kupper Louisville
OL Bryan Collins SMU
OL Dann O'Neill Western Michigan
OT Jon Opperud Montana

DT Torlan Pittman SMU
DE Earl Okine Florida
DE Willie Jefferson Stephen F Austin
LB Ja'Gared Davis SMU
LB Justin Tuggle Kansas State
LB Kenny Demens Michigan
LB Evan Frierson Illinois State
S Orhian Johnson Ohio State
S Jawanza Starling USC
CB Johnny Adams Michigan State
CB Travis Howard Ohio State
CB Malik “Fig” James, Langston University
CB A.J. Bouye University of Central Florida

P Andrew Shapiro Fresno State

http://www.stateofthetexans.com/2013-texans-udfa-list/

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 09:42 PM
Klein was brought in to get a feel for him in case Owen decides he want more money later in a few seasons. We'll need another TE/4th string super emergency QB.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 09:50 PM
Looks like "Fig" has been arrested twice, one for DUI, & kicked off a team.

Texans are loosening up their standards.

Vinny
04-27-2013, 09:51 PM
seems like it used to take an act of Congress to get the Texans UDFA's right after the draft. This list is huge and it isn't even Sunday yet.

bckey
04-27-2013, 09:56 PM
seems like it used to take an act of Congress to get the Texans UDFA's right after the draft. This list is huge and it isn't even Sunday yet.

I was thinking the same thing.

SAMURAITEXAN
04-27-2013, 09:58 PM
seems like it used to take an act of Congress to get the Texans UDFA's right after the draft. This list is huge and it isn't even Sunday yet.

Finally, I really feel like the Texans is win now mode.

Rey
04-27-2013, 10:08 PM
I like the Cierre woods signing. Not familiar with the other backs yet.

jppaul
04-27-2013, 10:13 PM
I wanted Dennis Johnson in the sixth, my guess is hell stick as a 3rd back. Like Klien also.

76Texan
04-27-2013, 10:36 PM
Ball security seems to be Dennis Johnson's issue; otherwise he looks like a bowling ball.

http://www.arkansasexpats.com/2013/4/26/4266978/arkansas-razorbacks-nfl-draft-profile-dennis-johnson

Rey
04-27-2013, 10:42 PM
Just watched the rb's we signed and it's gonna be a tough competition between them. They each bring something good to the table. I think Winn is my favorite though, but not by much. I like what I saw from them all.

76Texan
04-27-2013, 11:11 PM
I'd give it to Cierre Wood right now.
He and Dennis Johnson had faced tougher competitions.
Johnson needs to correct his ball security issue, otherwise, I think it would be Wood as many of us in the Mock Draft forum had talked about.

coon
04-27-2013, 11:27 PM
I like the idea of Colin Klein at TE, he was my 7th round pick is my first mock as a TE. In a year or two he could be really good.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:31 PM
Justin Tuggle, Inside Linebacker, Kansas State, 6-3, 244 lbs.
Travis Howard, Cornerback, Ohio State, 6-1 200 lbs.
Willie Jeffeson, Outside Linebacker, Stephen F. Austin, 6-6 234 lbs.
Graham Pocic, Center, Illinois, 6-7 310 lbs.
Ja’Gared Davis, SMU, Outside Linebacker, 6-1 235 lbs.
Earl Okine, Florida, Defensive End, 6-6 286 lbs.
Zach Boren, Ohio State, Fullback, 6-1 241 lbs.
Evan Frierson, Illinois State, Linebacker, 6-2 240 lbs.
Dann O’Neill, Western Michigan,Tackle, 6-8 305 lbs.
Marlon Brown, Georgia, Wide Receiver, 6-4 213 lbs.
Raymond Graham, Pittsburgh, Running back, 5-9 190 lbs.
Uzoma Nwachukwu, Texas A&M, Wide Receiver, 6-0 194 lbs.
Jon Opperud, Montana, Offensive Tackle, 6-7 302 lbs.
Kenny Demens, Michigan, Linebacker, 6-1 242 lbs.
Andrew Shapiro, Fresno State, Punter, 6-0 198 lbs.
George Winn, Cincinnati, Running back, 5-10 216 lbs.
Andy Cruse, Miami (OH), Wide Receiver, 6-3 212 lbs.
Orhian Johnson, Ohio State, Safety, 6-2 210 lbs.
Bryan Collins, SMU, Offensive Guard, 6-3 313 lbs.
Dennis Johnson, Arkansas,Running back, 5-6 196 lbs.
Alex Kupper, Louisville, Offensive Guard, 6-3 298 lbs.
Collin Klein, Kansas State, Quarterback, 6-5, 226 lbs. TRYOUT
Cierre Wood , Notre Dame, Running back, 5-11 213 lbs.
Michael Smith, UConn, Wide Receiver, 6-0 201 lbs.
Johnny Adams, Michigan State, Cornerback, 5-11 177 lbs.
Torlan Pittman, SMU, Defensive Tackle, 6-1, 285 lbs.
Jawanza Starling, USC, Safety, 6-1 200 lbs.
Malik “Fig” James, Langston University, Defensive Back, 6-0 195 lbs.
A.J. Bouye, University of Central Florida, Cornerback, 6-0 186 lbs.
Alec Lemon, Syracuse, Wide Receiver, Wide Receiver, 6-2 202 lbs.
Javicz Jones, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, Linebacker/Safety 6-0 224 lbs. TRYOUT


http://www.stateofthetexans.com/2013-texans-udfa-list/

jppaul
04-28-2013, 12:00 AM
Didn't know much about graham but this from Espn:

Possesses nimble and quick feet along with upper echelon lateral agility. Displays an effective jump cut that covers a lot of ground laterally and can consistently avoid backfield penetration. Has the suddenness and elusiveness as runner to make defenders miss in a confined area. Also can stop-and-start instantly to freeze defenders. Shows a quick short-area burst through the hole and can get to top-end speed quickly out of cuts. Flashes ability to string together multiple cuts when working through traffic. However, can be moving too quick for his own good at times and will lose balance when trying to make a cut at top-end speed on occasion. Lacks an elite extra gear and will struggle to outrun pursuit and hit the home run at the next level.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29995

Sounds a bit like Forsett

Wolf6151
04-28-2013, 12:28 AM
Justin Tuggle, Inside Linebacker, Kansas State, 6-3, 244 lbs.
Travis Howard, Cornerback, Ohio State, 6-1 200 lbs.
Willie Jeffeson, Outside Linebacker, Stephen F. Austin, 6-6 234 lbs.
Graham Pocic, Center, Illinois, 6-7 310 lbs.
Ja’Gared Davis, SMU, Outside Linebacker, 6-1 235 lbs.
Earl Okine, Florida, Defensive End, 6-6 286 lbs.
Zach Boren, Ohio State, Fullback, 6-1 241 lbs.
Evan Frierson, Illinois State, Linebacker, 6-2 240 lbs.
Dann O’Neill, Western Michigan,Tackle, 6-8 305 lbs.
Marlon Brown, Georgia, Wide Receiver, 6-4 213 lbs.
Raymond Graham, Pittsburgh, Running back, 5-9 190 lbs.
Uzoma Nwachukwu, Texas A&M, Wide Receiver, 6-0 194 lbs.
Jon Opperud, Montana, Offensive Tackle, 6-7 302 lbs.
Kenny Demens, Michigan, Linebacker, 6-1 242 lbs.
Andrew Shapiro, Fresno State, Punter, 6-0 198 lbs.
George Winn, Cincinnati, Running back, 5-10 216 lbs.
Andy Cruse, Miami (OH), Wide Receiver, 6-3 212 lbs.
Orhian Johnson, Ohio State, Safety, 6-2 210 lbs.
Bryan Collins, SMU, Offensive Guard, 6-3 313 lbs.
Dennis Johnson, Arkansas,Running back, 5-6 196 lbs.
Alex Kupper, Louisville, Offensive Guard, 6-3 298 lbs.
Collin Klein, Kansas State, Quarterback, 6-5, 226 lbs. TRYOUT
Cierre Wood , Notre Dame, Running back, 5-11 213 lbs.
Michael Smith, UConn, Wide Receiver, 6-0 201 lbs.
Johnny Adams, Michigan State, Cornerback, 5-11 177 lbs.
Torlan Pittman, SMU, Defensive Tackle, 6-1, 285 lbs.
Jawanza Starling, USC, Safety, 6-1 200 lbs.
Malik “Fig” James, Langston University, Defensive Back, 6-0 195 lbs.
A.J. Bouye, University of Central Florida, Cornerback, 6-0 186 lbs.
Alec Lemon, Syracuse, Wide Receiver, Wide Receiver, 6-2 202 lbs.
Javicz Jones, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, Linebacker/Safety 6-0 224 lbs. TRYOUT


http://www.stateofthetexans.com/2013-texans-udfa-list/

I like the guys that I bolded, and really like the fact we signed Johnny Adams. Adams will probably move to SS and reminds me of Glover Quinn.

DX-TEX
04-28-2013, 12:33 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/27/steelers-15-undrafted-free-agents-include-golics-kid/

Why does PFT say the Steelers signed Golics kid?

Vinny
04-28-2013, 12:35 AM
I like the Cierre woods signing. Not familiar with the other backs yet.
Cierre Wood reminds one of another Notre Dame back Allen Pinkett. Stocky, quicker than fast with limited long speed.

ArlingtonTexan
04-28-2013, 12:42 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/27/steelers-15-undrafted-free-agents-include-golics-kid/

Why does PFT say the Steelers signed Golics kid?

Because they did?

DX-TEX
04-28-2013, 12:55 AM
Because they did?

Well then...you need to make the fine print about the edits at the bottom bigger for us older folk.

Goldensilence
04-28-2013, 07:22 AM
Forgot Klein was a senior this year. Ran more of a zone read at Kstate but its not for lack of a strong arm. Guy is a superb athlete who would kill teams on roll outs and bootlegs. I'd love to see him make the team at QB.. Easily has most upside of any qb we have, infortunately also by far the most raw.

7 tackles going forward, i don't think it'll be too hard to whittle the number down.

Woods nice signing along with johnson.

Reed probably swings inside, i'd like to have seen more depth added at ILB though.

Anyone else notice Pocic C is listed at 6-7 & 310?!

rmartin65
04-28-2013, 09:19 AM
Ranking these guys is a hard task due to the fact that most were not very highly publicized. I have not seen every player on this list, but here are my rankings. As always, take with a huge grain of salt, but hopefully it helps someone or inspires some conversation.

1) Ohio State CB Travis Howard, 6’ 200 lbs
2) Notre Dame RB Cierre Wood, 5’11” 213 lbs
3) Florida DE Earl Okine, 6’7” 284 lbs
4) Georgia WR Marlon Brown, 6’4” 213 lbs
5) Ohio State SS Orhian Johnson, 6’3” 215 lbs
6) Michigan State CB Johnny Adams, 5’10” 185 lbs
7) Cincinnati RB George Winn, 5’11” 218 lbs
8) Pittsburgh RB Ray Graham, 5’9” 199 lbs
9) Illinois State OLB Evan Frierson, 6’1” 237 lbs
10) Texas A&M WR Uzoma Nwachukwu, 5’11” 192 lbs
11) Michigan ILB Kenny Demens, 6’1” 245 lbs
12) Illinois OL Graham Pocic, 6’7” 314 lbs
13) Syracuse WR Alec Lemon, 6’1” 202 lbs
14) Langston CB Malik James, 5’11” 189 lbs
15) SMU NT Torlan Pittman, 6’ 300 lbs
16) Arkansas RB Dennis Johnson, 5’7” 196 lbs
17) Kansas State ILB Justin Tuggle, 6’3” 244 lbs
18) Kansas State QB Collin Klein, 6’5” 326 lbs
19) SMU OLB Ja’Gared Davis, 6’ 238 lbs
20) Central Florida A.J. Bouye, 6’ 186 lbs
21) Stephen F. Austin OLB Willie Jefferson, 6’6” 233 lbs
22) UCONN WR Michael Smith, 6’ 197 lbs
23) Western Michigan OT Dann O’Neill, 6’8” 326 lbs
24) Ohio State FB Zach Boren, 6’1” 241 lbs
25) Louisville OG Alex Kupper, 6’3” 300 lbs
26) USC S Jawanza Starling, 6’1” 202 lbs
27) SMU OG Bryan Collins, 6’3” 301 lbs
28) Montana OT Jon Opperud, 6’7” 302 lbs
29) Miami (OH) WR Andy Cruse, 6’3” 212 lbs
30) Fresno State P Andrew Shapiro, 6’ 198 lbs
31) Mary Hardin-Baylor OLB Javicz Jones, 6’ 224 lbs

nero THE zero
04-28-2013, 09:28 AM
Players from Gil Brandt's positional UDFA top 10 rankings (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000164858/article/top-undrafted-rookies-following-2013-nfl-draft):
Collin Klein, QB (8)
Cierre Wood, RB (2)
Ray Graham, RB (5)
Marlon Brown, WR (9)
Alec Lemon, WR (10)
Johnny Adams, CB (7)

drs23
04-28-2013, 09:32 AM
Ball security seems to be Dennis Johnson's issue; otherwise he looks like a bowling ball.

http://www.arkansasexpats.com/2013/4/26/4266978/arkansas-razorbacks-nfl-draft-profile-dennis-johnson

From 76's link:

For five years, Johnson has been a household name amongst Razorback fans. Since breaking the school record for kick return yards in a season and earning a spot on the SEC All-Freshman team, Johnson's motor hasn't stopped running. At 5'9" and 213 lb, Johnson is quite a load to bring down. Just ask SEC defenses, who often needed a group effort to wrangle the bullish running back several yards after initial contact (he averaged 5.9 yards/carry for his career). He ran an official 4.47 40 at his pro day and is very explosive within the first 10 yards

Dayum! I think I like the guy already. This is the SEC and a shoddy line!

drs23
04-28-2013, 10:15 AM
QB Colin Klein Kansas St
RB Cierre Wood Notre Dame
RB Dennis Johnson Arkansas
RB George Winn Cincinnati
RB Ray Graham Pittsburgh
FB Zach Boren Ohio State
WR Andy Cruse Miami OH
WR Marlon Brown Georgia
WR Michael Smith UConn
WR Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M
C Graham Pocic Illinois
OG Alex Kupper Louisville
OL Bryan Collins SMU
OL Dann O'Neill Western Michigan
OT Jon Opperud Montana

DT Torlan Pittman SMU
DE Earl Okine Florida
DE Willie Jefferson Stephen F Austin
LB Ja'Gared Davis SMU
LB Justin Tuggle Kansas State
LB Kenny Demens Michigan
LB Evan Frierson Illinois State
S Orhian Johnson Ohio State
S Jawanza Starling USC
CB Johnny Adams Michigan State
CB Travis Howard Ohio State
CB Malik “Fig” James, Langston University
CB A.J. Bouye University of Central Florida

P Andrew Shapiro Fresno State

http://www.stateofthetexans.com/2013-texans-udfa-list/

A punter for a camp leg? Shirley he's not there to push Shane L., huh?

76Texan
04-28-2013, 10:17 AM
Forgot Klein was a senior this year. Ran more of a zone read at Kstate but its not for lack of a strong arm. Guy is a superb athlete who would kill teams on roll outs and bootlegs. I'd love to see him make the team at QB.. Easily has most upside of any qb we have, infortunately also by far the most raw.

7 tackles going forward, i don't think it'll be too hard to whittle the number down.

Woods nice signing along with johnson.

Reed probably swings inside, i'd like to have seen more depth added at ILB though.

Anyone else notice Pocic C is listed at 6-7 & 310?!
IMHO, Klein is never gonna make it as an NFL QB.
An emergency QB, yes.
A wildcat QB, may be.
And if he works really hard and improves his QBing skills tremendously, the we can start talking about a back-up position.

He's a good athlete and a good college QB though.

76Texan
04-28-2013, 10:21 AM
From 76's link:



Dayum! I think I like the guy already. This is the SEC and a shoddy line!

Did you watch the video in that link?
There were times he looks like a miniature Earl Campbell.
Don't know if he can last in the NFL that way, but if he can take care of the ball, he might be of use for at least a few years.
That is if he can even make the roster at some point.

For me, the percentage favors Cierre Wood the most.

76Texan
04-28-2013, 10:25 AM
The Florida guy looks interesting.
Tall and long but very raw.
PS candidate, may be.

4Texans
04-28-2013, 10:46 AM
Klien was asked to run TE drills at the combine by several teams but refused. Maybe he has changed his mind if he wants to stick around in the NFL.


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45souf
04-28-2013, 10:50 AM
I know they are going to put Kline on Practice Squad, does that mean they don't like Keenum?

76Texan
04-28-2013, 11:04 AM
The three guys from Ohio State also have possibilities.

I watched their first two games, and both DBs already made some nice plays.
Both are tall guys for their respective positions.

The CBs #7 Travis Howard had 3 interceptions playing in a combo man-zone scheme.
The Buckeyes had different game plan for each.
The first one against Zac Dysert, they played mostly zone, keeping things in front.
Howard did misplay a pass, being too aggressive.
He was supposed to drop back into a 5-3 deep zone, but instead, he tried to jump a side line route, this giving up a corner route to the inside receiver.
Other than that, he played very well.
He broke up a couple of passes and intercepted three balls, showing good reaction and awareness.

From what I read, he doesn't have much of a back pedal, but I can't tell from these two games since the defensive scheme didn't call for it, and the viewing angle is limited.

I was thinking Wade may draft a tall CB who may not have the ability to mirror receiver but can match up with the tall ones, or at least bring one in as an UDFA.
I was thinking about the UCLA guy as an UDFA, but Howard also looks like a decent prospect. He was regarded as a highly recruited CB, so we'll see what Vance Joseph can do with him.

Anothe position where I wanted the Texans to draft late or bring in as UDFA is a tall hybrid safety to play in Quin's spot against the TE. I was hoping for Dexter McCoil out of Tulsa, but Orhian Johnson doesn't look too bad as a prospect either. He also broke up a pass or two, deflected one that Howard picked off, and intercepted one himself. Also, he played the run quite decently.

Again, the schem didn't allow us to see whethe he can run with TEs or not, so I'll just wait to see if it ever happened in later games.
(I like to watch these games in chronological order to see their progress.)

However, I read that both of them played through some minor injuries the whole season.

Howard actually went down 3 times in the second game.
It looks like a shoulder contusion when he went down the first time, making a tackle on a run play. After making plays on two other occasions, he stayed down for a while; I believe it was due to the same injury.

Johnson didn't play much in the first game for some reason.
In the second game, he mostly played the nickel position where Quin often did.

Zac Boren played FB and HB (Casey-like) and looked pretty good in his blocking assignments, taking on DEs and LBs with authority.
He was moved to LB when injury depleted their corp in mid season.
I think he was originally drafted as a LB.
He might be too small for the next level though, unless he can bulk up some without losing too much agility and speed.
His best bet is to try to make the PS, I think.

No grade for any player yet, as I'd like to study them a whole lot more.
This is only first impressions.

bckey
04-28-2013, 11:10 AM
For me, the percentage favors Cierre Wood the most.


I'm the opposite. I think it favors Dennis Johnson not only because I think he is a better rb but because he has good return skills which is something the Texans sorely need. Like you said though he needs to take care of the football. It will be a fun battle to watch in camp.

Malloy
04-28-2013, 11:42 AM
Ball security seems to be Dennis Johnson's issue; otherwise he looks like a bowling ball.

http://www.arkansasexpats.com/2013/4/26/4266978/arkansas-razorbacks-nfl-draft-profile-dennis-johnson

One hand on the ball in traffic, he'll give me a heart attack :)

He's fast though, good vision and is tough to get Down!

Porky
04-28-2013, 11:52 AM
I can only talk about the guys I know a little about. The QB is a non-issue.. If he thinks he will be a pro QB, he needs to get off the crack. He can't throw the ball. Good runner though. Much worse version of you know who.

And if he does finally wake up and tries to transition to TE, it might be too late as he will be raw as hell.

Cierre Wood I think has a real shot to make the roster. He'll be a PS guy at worst imo and someone we can call upon if injury strikes.

Dennis Johnson is a good candidate due to versatility. He'll get a shot at return duties and might be another PS squad guy at worst. He has ball control issues, short and stocky like a little bowling ball. He has a shot though.

Outside of these guys I'm mostly ignorant so keep the reports coming guys. Good stuff.

Playoffs
04-28-2013, 12:11 PM
Concensus is the Texans have signed one of the best groups of UDFA RBs in the league.

Rey
04-28-2013, 12:43 PM
Don't sleep on George Winn.

Texn4life
04-28-2013, 12:52 PM
Both Forsett and Grimes are with the Jags right now. I don't see both of them ending up on the final roster there, so we could always bring in 1 of them if none of these guys work out.

mussop
04-28-2013, 03:06 PM
Don't sleep on George Winn.

He was in my mock fot the texans and i drafted him in the TT mock for GB. He fits this team perfect. He'll become a fan favorite.



the Green Bay Packers select George Winn RB Cincinnati

VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuwdTstW1Jg)

Winn, who scored a 58-yard touchdown on the Bearcats’ first offensive play of the season against Pittsburgh finished the season with 1,334 yards and 13 touchdowns, after spending the previous two seasons as the primary backup to Isaiah Pead (St. Louis Rams).

I love this guy for the Texans late. He reminds me of Arian coming out. He keeps his legs driving till the play is over. Runs with power but has nice deceptive wiggle. Is perfect for a zone blocking team.

76Texan
04-28-2013, 03:43 PM
The good thing about Winn is that I don't think he had any fumble last year; however, like I said, the two guys who played in the Big East didn't face as tough competition as CW and DJ.

thunderkyss
04-28-2013, 06:25 PM
29 UDFA!!! Talk about being aggressive.

Hopefully this signals a very competitive camp, where the best guy wins. No more waiting on guys to get healthy & stay healthy.... Tate & Sharpton. I like them, I'm rooting for them, but we missed being in the Super Bowl twice, because guys couldn't stay healthy & we weren't prepared. Garret Graham & Derek Newton get hurt & our run game to a wide left turn. Ben Tate was nowhere to be seen all season. Losing Cushing hurt, then losing Sharpton, Dobson, & James hurt. We even had issue at safety when Quin got hurt for a little bit.

I know it happens to every team, but some teams seam to be a little bit more prepared. Hernandez & Vareen filled in very well for Gronk & Woodhead down the stretch.

I hope we get some fresh young talent on this team, a deep practice squad, & a list of players to call as a matter of last resort.

rmartin65
04-28-2013, 06:27 PM
The website says the Texans have signed 24 guys (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Report-Texans-agree-to-terms-with-24-undrafted-FAs/7141a0f2-ee8b-4b3f-850f-c8a3b47f0002)

Offense
QB Collin Klein (Kansas State)
RB Ray Graham (Pittsburgh)
RB Dennis Johnson (Arkansas)
RB George Winn (Cincinnati)
RB Cierre Wood (Notre Dame)
FB Zach Boren (Ohio State)
WR Marlon Brown (Georgia)
WR Andy Cruse (Ohio)
WR Alec Lemon (Syracuse)
WR Ozoma Nwachukwu (Texas A&M)
WR Michael Smith (Connecticut)
T Dann O’Neill (Western Michigan)
G Alex Kupper (Louisville)
G Bryan Collins (SMU)

Defense
DE Earl Okine (Florida)
LB Justin Tuggle (Kansas State)
ILB Ja’Gared Davis (SMU)
ILB Evan Frierson (Illinois State)
CB Johnny Adams (Michigan State)
CB A.J. Bouye (Central Florida)
CB Travis Howard (Ohio State)
S Orhian Johnson (Ohio State)
S Jawanza Starling (USC)

Special teams
P Andre Shapiro (Fresno State)

drs23
04-28-2013, 06:39 PM
Don't sleep on George Winn.

Made me go youtube him. It looks like he sure plays faster than the 4.5 speed he was timed at. Like was mentioned he keeps his legs moving and he can move a pile. Looking forward to seeing what he can do as a Texan.

Rey
04-28-2013, 06:44 PM
Just watched some clips of Justin tuggle and he's a versatile player. Looks like Sean porter to me. Can probably play inside or outside in this defense. He was used a lot to rush the qb, but he played back off the line some too. He could sneak on to the roster.

Thorn
04-28-2013, 06:54 PM
Tate has had one decent season since he's been with us. He is not reliable. Hopefully one of the guys will step up. Last season Foster and Forsette were our running game.

Texn4life
04-28-2013, 07:00 PM
Tate has had one decent season since he's been with us. He is not reliable. Hopefully one of the guys will step up. Last season Foster and Forsette were our running game.

To be fair the first year you can't pin on him. He was great his 2nd year and last year was ineffective and knicked up. Foster, despite his total yards, wasn't great either last year so some of that you have to put on the line. Tate will have to be much, MUCH, better this year though.

76Texan
04-28-2013, 07:18 PM
Another fairly good game for the Buckeyes trio, deserving more reviews.
Against Keenan Allen's Cal Bears, Howard gave up a ten-yard catch to Allen in the zone; otherwise, Maynard stayed away from him.
Johnson missed a tackle, coming in too high and let the short guy spin away from him; I guess being a tall nickel does have some negative.
Both guys were pretty active in support, both in the pass and the run.
Pretty good job, though both could be better to make an NFL roster.
(But they did better as compared to some Texans' DBs.) Guys like Kyle Wilson, Patrick Robinson, and McCourty had their shares of miss-tackles in college, so basically, these two DBs did well in comparison... so far.

More efficient blocking by Boren, but nothing devastating.
In three games, his lead block was good enough for the run game, including quite a few red zone TDs.

NitroGSXR
04-28-2013, 09:20 PM
To be fair the first year you can't pin on him. He was great his 2nd year and last year was ineffective and knicked up. Foster, despite his total yards, wasn't great either last year so some of that you have to put on the line. Tate will have to be much, MUCH, better this year though.

Keep in mind that the coaching staff wasn't all that enamored with Tate all year long. Kubiak kept stating his displeasure one way or another.

I'm a Tate fan myself so no hate coming from me. Just noting some buggy observations from last year.

Texn4life
04-28-2013, 10:02 PM
Keep in mind that the coaching staff wasn't all that enamored with Tate all year long. Kubiak kept stating his displeasure one way or another.

I'm a Tate fan myself so no hate coming from me. Just noting some buggy observations from last year.

No doubt he had his issues last year. He got banged up in preseason and he never got back to where he needed to be. I think he also got frustrated by his lack of carries early on understandably. He needs to mature this year and the coaching staff needs to feed him more. It will benefit all parties in the long run including Arian and Matt Schaub. Fresh backs all game means Schaub isn't forced into those 3rd and long situations that he and Kubiak are terrible in.

SAMURAITEXAN
04-28-2013, 11:33 PM
Hopefully this signals a very competitive camp, where the best guy wins. No more waiting on guys to get healthy & stay healthy.... Tate & Sharpton. I like them, I'm rooting for them, but we missed being in the Super Bowl twice, because guys couldn't stay healthy & we weren't prepared. Garret Graham & Derek Newton get hurt & our run game to a wide left turn. Ben Tate was nowhere to be seen all season. Losing Cushing hurt, then losing Sharpton, Dobson, & James hurt. We even had issue at safety when Quin got hurt for a little bit.

I know it happens to every team, but some teams seam to be a little bit more prepared. Hernandez & Vareen filled in very well for Gronk & Woodhead down the stretch.

I hope we get some fresh young talent on this team, a deep practice squad, & a list of players to call as a matter of last resort.
I agree TK. The key is quality depth and trying out many UDFA prospects only increase our chance to find such player/s.

Brisco_County
04-29-2013, 12:47 AM
Ray Graham would be very interesting in a ZBS. I've never seen lateral movement like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfHd112U2nY

Note the impossible cut during the play at 3:10.

Texn4life
04-29-2013, 01:11 AM
Ray Graham would be very interesting in a ZBS. I've never seen lateral movement like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfHd112U2nY

Note the impossible cut during the play at 3:10.

I'm with you and said the same thing when i first heard we signed him. He ran a 4.8 at the combine, but his measureables don't reflect his ability. He's had some injury problems at Pitt, but I'm curious to see what he can do. We're gonna have some incredible competitions through training camp on both sides of the ball, and this is one I'll be keeping a close eye on.

Edit: I noticed the play you were talking about, and this kid has special jump cut ability. You just don't see that everyday.

The Pencil Neck
04-29-2013, 01:23 AM
I'm with you and said the same thing when i first heard we signed him. He ran a 4.8 at the combine, but his measureables don't reflect his ability. He's had some injury problems at Pitt, but I'm curious to see what he can do. We're gonna have some incredible competitions through training camp on both sides of the ball, and this is one I'll be keeping a close eye on.

Edit: I noticed the play you were talking about, and this kid has special jump cut ability. You just don't see that everyday.

He looks faster than 4.8 to me from that tape.

Texn4life
04-29-2013, 01:30 AM
He looks faster than 4.8 to me from that tape.

Yeah, it shocked me too when I looked it up. I just don't trust 40 times in cases like this. He and Dion Lewis went to Pitt at the same time, and I always thought Graham had more ability. Lewis is with the Eagles now, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Graham became a coaching favorite early. His change of direction skill is better than all of the backs we signed which should help him quite a bit.

EllisUnit
04-29-2013, 02:23 AM
Ray Graham would be very interesting in a ZBS. I've never seen lateral movement like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfHd112U2nY

Note the impossible cut during the play at 3:10.

Reminds me a lot of foster with his cuts and his ability to catch the ball. Could be a good pick up.

deucetx
04-29-2013, 08:19 AM
He looks faster than 4.8 to me from that tape.

Eh, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Like he said himself, he's more quick than fast. He also ran a 4.58 which was his fastest time so he's probably around the 4.5-4.6 range. I like his vision and lateral movement more than anything. He's small of course but not like he would be asked to handle the load.

Had a bit brush with the law so that along with the 4.8 at the combine and his size probably had him fall. I still remember watching him carve up that vaunted Notre Dame defense and Teo last year.

Thorn
04-29-2013, 08:30 AM
Graham does look interesting, as do one or two of the other RBs. The last two backs we drafted highly are Slayton and Tate, neither of which has panned out. Our best backs seem to come from trades, free agent signings and UFDAs.

That was just an unskilled observation on my part. LOL

dalemurphy
04-29-2013, 08:38 AM
I think there is a clear message from Smith/Kubiak (bringing in 40 rookies) to a 12-4 team:

all marginal and/or overpaid veterans better impress the heck out of the coaching staff during training camp or be at great risk of being cut.

I think that 2010 meltdown was the best thing to happen to this organization, because I think it shifted the organizational power (or philosophy at least). My sense is that Rick Smith is in charge these days, and he does not have a problem making cold, calculating personnel decisions- something Kubiak (God bless him) is not good at.

76Texan
04-29-2013, 09:59 AM
Eh, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Like he said himself, he's more quick than fast. He also ran a 4.58 which was his fastest time so he's probably around the 4.5-4.6 range. I like his vision and lateral movement more than anything. He's small of course but not like he would be asked to handle the load.

Had a bit brush with the law so that along with the 4.8 at the combine and his size probably had him fall. I still remember watching him carve up that vaunted Notre Dame defense and Teo last year.

He was caught up by a Notre Dame player (whose name I didn't catch), in that clip; and then I noticed Zeke Motta also catching up. Motta ran a 4.75 at the combine so I don't think Graham has the long speed.
I used to like Motta when I watched him play until his performance at the combine.
Graham could be good in the short area, but he definitely looked lacking in the blocking department. I remember vaguely the Connecticut game (when I scouted Sio Moore) so I rewatched it briefly. Your QB is going to get killed in the NFL if you have Graham blocking. Being strictly a change of pace back might be a disadvantage to Graham. He does look pretty good, but you have to wonder if it's enough for him to make a roster. Personally, I doubt it.

I'm not sure whether he has problem with the ball or not, but I know he fumbled at least 3 times last year; and he had a fumble in the Shrine game, too.

HOU-TEX
04-29-2013, 02:34 PM
I'm not really understanding the Collin Klein signing. IMO, he doesn't have a lot for Kubiak to work with and mold. Plus, his signing gives us 5 QBs on the roster. I don't recall ever bringing that many to camp.

Unless he's decided to give another position a shot?

Rey
04-29-2013, 02:35 PM
Just watched some clips of Ja'Gared Davis and I think he has a good shot to make the team. Tough player with excellent instincts. I don't know his 40 time and all that, but he moves well. he's 6'1" 235 ish. Based on his film he fits right in with this aggressive class we brought in. Solid wrap up tackler but brings some hmpf! to his hits. Plays with a lot of fire. Has a knack for making plays.

Was primarily used as a stand up edge rusher, but apparently he's projected as an ILB. He looks like James Harrison to me.

Rey
04-29-2013, 02:52 PM
I'm not really understanding the Collin Klein signing. IMO, he doesn't have a lot for Kubiak to work with and mold. Plus, his signing gives us 5 QBs on the roster. I don't recall ever bringing that many to camp.

Unless he's decided to give another position a shot?

Honestly I'd leave him at QB.

Looking at his clips he actually attempts to read defenses and go through progressions. He will also at times scramble to make a throw vs scrambling to run.

He would be a good player to have on the practice squad because he can emulate some of these more mobile QB's like Wilson and Kaepernick that we'll have to play and the offenses they run. And I actually like the way he plays the game...He's more QB than Tebow, but I get the comparison...

If Kubiak can coach him up on his footwork and stuff, he could be a surprise at the QB position down the road. I think it's worth the gamble...You just never know...

rmartin65
04-29-2013, 04:13 PM
76, could you look through some of Florida's games focusing on Okine? I have a note (just one- "would make a nice developmental 3-4 DE... tools are there, but needs coaching"), but I would like to get your read on him.

Not just 76, actually. If anybody has film/notes, let me know what you think.

76Texan
04-29-2013, 04:33 PM
76, could you look through some of Florida's games focusing on Okine? I have a note (just one- "would make a nice developmental 3-4 DE... tools are there, but needs coaching"), but I would like to get your read on him.

Not just 76, actually. If anybody has film/notes, let me know what you think.

I had that in mind; you know I would have gotten to it if I have the time.
Right now I'm on the Buckeyes guys, a nice trio of prospects that intrigue me every game I watch. Sometimes I hate spending too much time on one game, but the Spartans game also features J Adams. I watched it last night, but I need to go back today because Urban M rolled out a different defensive scheme, mostly man coverage. I was able to gauge Howard's ability quite a bit in the first half.

Obviously, I had to spend time watching the other 3 guys, too.
A pretty good glimpse overall.

rmartin65
04-29-2013, 04:38 PM
I had that in mind; you know I would have gotten to it if I have the time.
Right now I'm on the Buckeyes guys, a nice trio of prospects that intrigue me every game I watch. Sometimes I hate spending too much time on one game, but the Spartans game also features J Adams. I watched it last night, but I need to go back today because Urban M rolled out a different defensive scheme, mostly man coverage. I was able to gauge Howard's ability quite a bit in the first half.

Obviously, I had to spend time watching the other 3 guys, too.
A pretty good glimpse overall.

As an OSU alum, I am pretty stoked we got the two DBs. I think both have a shot at the roster, but are more likely PS candidates. Boren I liked going into the season, but he did not have an impressive season in my opinion. With the recent FA acquisition at FB, I think Boren is little more than a camp body.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 12:13 AM
Why are we listing Tuggle as an ILB? From what I've seen from his highlights so far, he's a Will. I could be really wrong about this but he doesn't look like he'd be good on the inside.

Rey
04-30-2013, 12:40 AM
Looking at him on film he looks like a utility guy. I could easily see him playing inside. Ja'gared Davis was a stand up rush LB at smu and I think he's going inside too. I like both of them as ilb prospects, but I like Davis a little more. I think Davis is going to make the team. He's a much better looking player than louiseau was last year. He and toggle both are IMO.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 12:44 AM
Looking at him on film he looks like a utility guy. I could easily see him playing inside. Ja'gared Davis was a stand up rush LB at smu and I think he's going inside too. I like both of them as ilb prospects, but I like Davis a little more. I think Davis is going to make the team. He's a much better looking player than louiseau was last year. He and toggle both are IMO.

I was just looking at Davis and although he was mostly a rush LB, I could see him going inside. I think he needs to improve his strength, though. But it looks like he's got a good motor and he keeps working. He doesn't get swallowed up by tackles the way Tuggle seemed to.

tru80texan
04-30-2013, 10:30 AM
Eh, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Like he said himself, he's more quick than fast. He also ran a 4.58 which was his fastest time so he's probably around the 4.5-4.6 range. I like his vision and lateral movement more than anything. He's small of course but not like he would be asked to handle the load.

Had a bit brush with the law so that along with the 4.8 at the combine and his size probably had him fall. I still remember watching him carve up that vaunted Notre Dame defense and Teo last year.

Let's not forget Graham also suffered an ACL injury in late October of 2011. It seems it takes a year or a little over a year for some to recover fully & it would've been roughly 15-16 months since he suffered his injury at the time of the combine. He does seem very elusive & quick, but his long speed does seem to be lacking some as he was caught from behind or some players made up some serious ground on him in pursuit. I still like his potential because he makes people miss & uses an array moves to do it & his catching ability seems to be pretty good as well.

I'm also interested to see what Cierre Wood has to offer. From what I have watched he also moves well & has some elusiveness. His long speed seems to be a better then Grahams's & his size is a plus as well. The knock on him from what I have read is his reluctance to pick up tough yards or move piles w/ his size, but Arian isn't exactly that type either & it seems their running styles are similar IMO.

I can't wait to see what these 2 have to offer. The other 2 that were signed were not all that impressive IMO. That could change come TC, as I'm sure they will all be attempting to do their best to keep their dreams alive.

76Texan
04-30-2013, 01:03 PM
Game review: Ohio St. vs. Michigan St. Spartans

Against the Spartans and the big RB Le'Veon Bell,
the Buckeyes loaded the box and leave their CBs mostly in one-one-one.
Bell was linmited to 47 yards on 17 carries.

This was a good game to review, especially with a wide and deep camera angle.
They even showed several end zone shots that make player evaluation easier and more accurate.

Howard was left on an island for most of the games,
playing either off-man or press man coverage.

He allowed one 3-yd catch playing off-man on first and ten, converging quickly.

He stayed well with, and ahead of the receiver on a post route
(a difficult one to defend one-on-one), resulting in an incompletion.

He reacted back and took down the RB Bell with a nice tackle that stopped Bell dead in his track.

On a side line route, Howard stayed disciplined against the double move,
reacted well and turned to run stride for stride with the receiver.
He then pinned the receiver to the sideline, in phase, securing he route, and forcing another incompletion.
("terrific coverage", in Brent Musburger's term
and "good coverage and good position by Herbie, the other commentator.)

On a quick short pass, Howard appeared to stop the receiver short of the first down on third and five, but the ref gave it to the Spartans.
The receiver never reached the first down marker.
(Howard was switching man; he was about to take on the inside receiver who went deep, but reacted back very well to help the slot defender on the outside receiver, nearly foiling the conversion.)

He gave up a 10-yd slant playing off-man, but made the tackle immediately.
(I think he was about to drop into a 3-deep zone when he realized that it was a quick slant and reacted back to make the play. The nickel was a little too far inside to drop back into the flat soon enough. The nickel - Orhian Johnson, was eying either the TE or the RB or both before making his drop.)

Howard was right there with the receiver on a couple more plays, forcing an incompletion on a quick slant and a dropped ball on a quick out.

In the second half, Howard continued to show well in run support.

They didn't target him but one time when the quick slant throw was low and away with zero chance for the receiver.
Howard was right there, ready to deliver the blow; even if the pass was on target, there was no guarantee that the receiver can hold on to the ball.

The QB looked Howard's direction three other times, but didn't go there.
The TV angle was good on one occasion where I can see that
Howard was step to step with the receiver.

.......................


O. Johnson made a couple of nice play disengaging from the slot to help thwart off 2 passes to the boundary receiver, showing good awareness, agility, as well as range.

On one play, he missed a tackle in pursuit (it wasn't his man), going in too high with the arm tackle.
This needs to be cleaned up.

He also played deep safety, breaking up a pass, and was generally in good position where he was supposed to be.

His run support continued to be solid.

The Mich. St. QB Maxwell was 22 of 42 for 269;
only a tiny portion of that production was against Howard and Johnson.
.......

Zac Boren also continued his good plays.
He's definitely a very good college lead blocker.
...

The Spartans CB Johnny Adams played similarly to Brice McCain when he was at Utah, mostly in press man with some off-man coverage mixing in.

He looks physical, pound per pound, with the ability to mirror the receiver.
He can fight off his man (bigger and taller) to support the run very well.

He did give up a 12-yd catch in off-man (he was switching man similarly to Howard, so it was not a poor play or anything.)
He gave up another irrelevant catch short of the first down marker on third and long on a broken play in off-man coverage.
Not a problem there either.

He gave up a TD on a side line route; this time it was a problem.
He was looking back trying to locate the ball and it just zoomed past him into the hands of the receiver.
He was in trail position and could have broken up the pass if he had simply played through the receiver.
He needed to secure the route before trying to locate the ball.
It was a perfect pass; I must say, however.

Ohio St. attemtped just 22 passes; only those 3 went Adams' way.
He was in good position throughout the game, even on the TD.

......

All and all, these four guys are very interesting prospects.
I think I will come back to them later if I have the time.
Right now, I want to watch me some Alan Bonner.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 01:09 PM
On 610, they just said something about a possible "surprise" UDFA signing.

Anybody know what they were talking about?

Rey
04-30-2013, 01:26 PM
Looks like Jake Plummer gave Kubiak the scoop on Colin Klein.

NCTexan
04-30-2013, 01:43 PM
Looks like Jake Plummer gave Kubiak the scoop on Colin Klein.

Any idea if they see him as a legitimate QB prospect/did he elaborate any more on Klein?

Rey
04-30-2013, 01:47 PM
Any idea if they see him as a legitimate QB prospect/did he elaborate any more on Klein?

He's playing QB.

Case is the only QB on the roster that qualifies for the rookie camp stuff and Klein would be the extra arm. At this point in time I think they'll coach him up as a QB.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 01:51 PM
He's playing QB.

Yates is the only QB on the roster that qualifies for the rookie camp stuff and Klein would be the extra arm. At this point in time I think they'll coach him up as a QB.

Not Yates, Case.

Rey
04-30-2013, 01:56 PM
Not Yates, Case.

That's what I meant....Brain fail...

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 02:02 PM
That's what I meant....Brain fail...

I figured you were just typing too fast. :)

Playoffs
04-30-2013, 02:50 PM
On 610, they just said something about a possible "surprise" UDFA signing.

Anybody know what they were talking about?

Who hasn't signed, yet? Any big names?

HOU-TEX
04-30-2013, 02:56 PM
Who hasn't signed, yet? Any big names?

Earl's lookin pretty good these days

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 03:10 PM
Who hasn't signed, yet? Any big names?

I might have misheard it. They were using it as a teaser but then they didn't seem to come back to it.

Señor Stan
04-30-2013, 03:22 PM
I might have misheard it. They were using it as a teaser but then they didn't seem to come back to it.

Surprise Free Agent signing maybe?

It's hard to imagine an UDFA still out there that would merit that type of teaser...

NCTexan
04-30-2013, 03:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkAjVhrkxHE

Earl Okine, the DE from Florida, looks like he comes off blocks well to get the running back. I could see him making the team this year as one of the last guys, at least the practice squad I think.

kingtexan
04-30-2013, 05:15 PM
He's playing QB.

Case is the only QB on the roster that qualifies for the rookie camp stuff and Klein would be the extra arm. At this point in time I think they'll coach him up as a QB.

Good to hear, I think he has real potential.

srrono
04-30-2013, 09:22 PM
PDS ‏@PatDStat 43s

Kicker, Jeremy Shelley from Alabama will be joining the #Texans a rookie minicamp.

honored82
04-30-2013, 10:26 PM
The Texans’ nine draft picks, including first-round wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins, will participate in the mini-camp. So will their undrafted rookie free agents and an undisclosed group of tryout players invited by the team.

Anybody knows who these players are ? Do we ever get to find out ? and does this happen every year? Don't remember from past history.

76Texan
04-30-2013, 10:30 PM
PDS ‏@PatDStat 43s

Kicker, Jeremy Shelley from Alabama will be joining the #Texans a rookie minicamp.

There's your surprise UDFA signing, LOL!

76Texan
04-30-2013, 10:33 PM
The Texans’ nine draft picks, including first-round wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins, will participate in the mini-camp. So will their undrafted rookie free agents and an undisclosed group of tryout players invited by the team.

Anybody knows who these players are ? Do we ever get to find out ? and does this happen every year? Don't remember from past history.

I believe it's the annual try-out teams organize mostly for local players.
Some might be from UCLA, or Rutgers NY, but they came from around here.
Their families may live in La Porte or Round Rock for example, and they attended HS in the surrounding areas.

Playoffs
04-30-2013, 10:57 PM
There's your surprise UDFA signing, LOL!

Bam!

Superbowl!!!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/92f7a22442905a2a562a59e7a8b61598/tumblr_mlja6ppF0a1r0ovlbo1_400.gif

Rey
04-30-2013, 11:02 PM
The Texans’ nine draft picks, including first-round wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins, will participate in the mini-camp. So will their undrafted rookie free agents and an undisclosed group of tryout players invited by the team.

Anybody knows who these players are ? Do we ever get to find out ? and does this happen every year? Don't remember from past history.

I think I heard kubiak say that he hasn't done many rookie mini camps in the past because they fly out stay for a couple days and then have to fly back hone. I think he said that this year will be different because it will work out so that it leads right into ota's or something like that.

76Texan
04-30-2013, 11:08 PM
I think I heard kubiak say that he hasn't done many rookie mini camps in the past because they fly out stay for a couple days and then have to fly back hone. I think he said that this year will be different because it will work out so that it leads right into ota's or something like that.

Right.
But also, the rookie mini camps is different from the annual try out.

The camp is for rookies that we signed plus a few second year players like Keenum.

The try out is for players that no team has signed yet.

76Texan
05-02-2013, 11:59 AM
76, could you look through some of Florida's games focusing on Okine? I have a note (just one- "would make a nice developmental 3-4 DE... tools are there, but needs coaching"), but I would like to get your read on him.

Not just 76, actually. If anybody has film/notes, let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkAjVhrkxHE

Earl Okine, the DE from Florida, looks like he comes off blocks well to get the running back. I could see him making the team this year as one of the last guys, at least the practice squad I think.Well, I've been watching a good amount of Gators tapes and it bothers me that Okine didn't see the field often. He was in a rotation with 4 other guys (not to mention an occasional play here and there by a couple of others at the same position.)

One of the four guys is fellow senior Lerentee McCray who was given mid-round status by NFL.com and 5th round by both CBS Sports and NFL Draft Scout (but he ended up as an UDFA for the Broncos - I guess the share playing time hurts his stock as well as his injury history.)

What bothers me is that the other 3 guys were underclassmen (2 of them were Freshmen.) It was discouraging to find that out until I learned that both of them were chosen to the All-Freshman SEC team. I also learned that all those 3 guys were 5-star recruits.

Now that it makes more sense, I can get back to Okine's game.
He didn't play much, averaging may be a dozen snaps a game at most.
His production per snap isn't bad at all, but he still looked kinda raw.

Due to his length, he reminds me a little of Mario Williams.
The comparison probably should end there, LOL!
It seems to me that Okine hasn't learn how to use his long arms to his advantage.
Quite often, he failed to disengage from the blockers and got held up as the runner went past him.
In the pass rush, he mainly bull rushed his man towards the QB, but then didn't know what else to do... On occasions, he just couldn't shred the blocker off of him; the highlights notwithstanding.
But when he did get low to come off the stance, he showed the strength that leverage can bring to augment his power.

I guess it boils down to consistency.
Had he shown the consistency, he would have played more (and therefore boosting his draft stock.)
If a guy demonstrates that he can do certain thing, certainly he can be coached up to do it again with more consistency, right?!?

Oh, and by the way, I did see him on a couple of occasions in standing up position and he looked comfortable with the knee bend and the get off.

I really like to see him at TC.
The guy does possess the measurables and the tools; I keep wondering what is it that stopped him from being more consistent.

HOU-TEX
05-10-2013, 10:07 AM
Here's the official list from HT.com. Klein is only here on a tryout basis

Quarterback Collin Klein, widely reported to be among their UDFA signings, was not signed but is with the Texans this weekend on a tryout basis.

Offense
RB Ray Graham (Pittsburgh)
RB Dennis Johnson (Arkansas)
RB George Winn (Cincinnati)
RB Cierre Wood (Notre Dame)
FB Zach Boren (Ohio State)
WR Andy Cruse (Miami (Ohio))
WR Alec Lemon (Syracuse)
WR Ozoma Nwachukwu (Texas A&M)
WR Mike Smith (Connecticut)
T Dann O’Neill (Western Michigan)
G Alex Kupper (Louisville)
G Bryan Collins (SMU)

Defense
DE Earl Okine (Florida)
OLB Willie Jefferson (Stephen F. Austin)
OLB Justin Tuggle (Kansas State)
ILB Ja’Gared Davis (SMU)
ILB Evan Frierson (Illinois State)
CB Johnny Adams (Michigan State)
CB A.J. Bouye (Central Florida)
CB Travis Howard (Ohio State)
S Orhian Johnson (Ohio State)
S Jawanza Starling (USC)

Special Teams
P Andrew Shapiro (Fresno State)

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Texans-sign-23-undrafted-rookie-free-agents/ca34065c-d4f9-4ff1-a6d2-54ebc741b5bd

HOU-TEX
05-10-2013, 10:13 AM
Here are the players here on a tryout basis, including 6 veterans

Veteran Tryouts (6) (NFL experience in parentheses)
Tyler Horn, C, Miami (Fla.) (1)
Deji Karim, RB, Southern Illinois (4)
Jon Opperud, T, Montana (1)
Roy Lewis, SS, Washington (4)
Robert Rose, DT, Ohio State (1)
Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado (4)
Rookie Tryouts (11)
Jackson Anderson, LS, Duke
Marlon Brown, WR, Georgia
Adrian Campbell, T, Tarleton State
Javicz Jones, ILB, Mary-Hardin Baylor
Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State
Barrett Matthews, FB, Texas
Torlan Pittman, NT, SMU
Graham Pocic, C, Illinois
Adam Schiitz, TE, Emporia State (Kan.)
Baker Steinkuhler, NT, Nebraska
Ben Turk, P, Notre Dame

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Collin-Klein-among-17-players-Texans-bring-in-for-tryouts/a943e31b-483d-4883-a30a-e8096d26764f

b0ng
05-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Is Baker Steinkuhler a relative to Dean? Also, no punters with the last name "Turk" please and thank you.

76Texan
05-10-2013, 12:38 PM
Is Baker Steinkuhler a relative to Dean? Also, no punters with the last name "Turk" please and thank you.

He's Dean's son.
The Huskers didn't do him a favor moving him to defense.
I wonder if our coaches are looking to see what he can do on the O-line.
The guy does have 34" arms.

thunderkyss
05-10-2013, 05:05 PM
Here are the players here on a tryout basis, including 6 veterans

Robert Rose, DT, Ohio State (1)

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Collin-Klein-among-17-players-Texans-bring-in-for-tryouts/a943e31b-483d-4883-a30a-e8096d26764f

Interesting

Rotoworld (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6038/robert-rose)Dolphins DE Robert Rose was among the players to admit to accepting illegal benefits at Ohio State, leading to Jim Tressel's resignation.
Rose, who attended OSU from 2006-2009, told SI.com that he has no regrets about making and taking money on the side. "I knew how much money that the school was making," Rose said. "I always heard about how Ohio State had the biggest Nike budget. I was struggling, my mom was struggling ... [Other] guys were doing it for the same reasons. The university doesn’t really help. Technically we knew it was wrong, but a lot of those guys are from the inner city and we didn’t have much, and we had to go on the best we could. I couldn’t call home to ask my mom to help me out." Tue, May 31, 2011 09:42:00 AM

Another Badboy from Ohio State.

76Texan
05-11-2013, 11:34 PM
Been watching some of Chris Jones.
I started with 2011.
Paid most attention to the W. Virginia game; not exactly the big boys, but at the same time, he was a Junior.
Nice game!
At the least, Jones showed he can start in the Big 12.
Won a fair-to-good amount of match-ups.
Got himself a sack and a couple of QB pressures - no slouch against a fast-paced Mountaineers offense.
Sustained the double-team admirably (a pleasant surprise).

Good base, but could firm up the mid-section.
Good short-area burst, but surely not exceptional.

Still raw with his arm techniques; no signature move to speak off.
==> Inconsistent.
The flashes are there. When he maintains leverage, the result is totally different; he can be a force (better than the core tests show) - that was a little nice surprise too.
Need to stress on the inconsistencies though; as he was pretty meh in another game.

Can't wait to watch his 2012 tapes to see the progression, if any.

76Texan
05-15-2013, 09:02 AM
I've been watching more UConn tapes.
In the Pittsburgh game, it was mentioned that Ray Graham had an ACL in early November 2011.
That he was able to come back to play at a good level in 2012 seems to indicate that they have made good progress in the medic field. Or is it just another exception?

Also Graham suffered a hamstring right at the end of the year.
I wonder if that prevented him from posting a better time in the forty?

thunderkyss
05-25-2013, 02:16 PM
Per SBNation.com (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/27/4276394/undrafted-free-agent-tracker-2013)


Well maybe ESPN will give the Texans a little more love now that we got Golic's son!

Edit: Actually maybe the source is no bueno. Golic Jr. reportedly signed with the Steelers...

Of all the 29 that we picked up, how many are still with the team?

CloakNNNdagger
05-25-2013, 02:49 PM
Of all the 29 that we picked up, how many are still with the team?

This link to OURLADS (http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/HOU) (as of 5/19/13) can answer that question.

Insideop
05-25-2013, 07:46 PM
Of all the 29 that we picked up, how many are still with the team?

I think that 29 number was for players offered to sign and, obviously, not all chose to sign with the Texans, like Golic, who went with the Steelers, and Kenny Demens (LB Michigan) who also signed with another team. I also think Colin Klein was considered part of the 29 but he was never offered a contract and only came to the Rookie Mini Camp on a tryout basis. Of that 29, only 21 UDFA's started OTA's and 2 of them (Dann O'Neill, OT and George Winn, RB) were cut to make room for 2 of the "tryout" guys (Deji Karim, RB, 4yrs NFL exp and Tyler Horn, C, 1 yr NFL exp). So, by my calculations, the Texans are down to 19 UDFA's from 2013 as of 5/25/13. Hope that helps. :)