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Wolf
04-27-2013, 07:27 PM
They are doing this series again.

91-100 is coming on after the draft

100 Dennis Pitta
99 Trent Williams
98 MJD
97 Heath Miller
96 Dashon Goldson
95 Max Unger
94 Daryl Washington
93 Anquan Boldin
92 Gerald McCoy
91 Troy Polamalu

Wolf
04-27-2013, 08:16 PM
Showing MJD likes to drop shoulder and deliver the blow...all I can say is "not this year or it is a penalty" (in 2nd and 3rd level)

TexansBull
04-27-2013, 08:26 PM
Chris Johnson must be embarrassed to be ranked below Tebow.

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Wolf
04-27-2013, 08:59 PM
There is the list updated

Respect on some of the guys Troy played 7 games
MJD got respect also on his unfortunate injury filled season

Lucky
04-28-2013, 04:09 PM
Dennis Pitta is the 100th best player in the NFL? I guess Owen Daniels must be in the top 90.

eriadoc
04-29-2013, 11:15 AM
Boldin should be better than 93.

BigBull17
04-29-2013, 04:55 PM
I will check it out but these lists are largely a joke. I remember when McNabb was top 100 his last year or second to last year. Was sad.

Maddict5
04-30-2013, 10:15 PM
I always wonder how they vote for this. I thought I read somewhere that they just ballot players on their top 20 as top 100 would be too lengthy and get the results from that but I highly doubt anybody would have dennis pitta in the top 20 of anything other than TE's

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 10:30 PM
I always wonder how they vote for this. I thought I read somewhere that they just ballot players on their top 20 as top 100 would be too lengthy and get the results from that but I highly doubt anybody would have dennis pitta in the top 20 of anything other than TE's

Apparently, you're mistaken.

thunderkyss
04-30-2013, 10:35 PM
Showing MJD likes to drop shoulder and deliver the blow...all I can say is "not this year or it is a penalty" (in 2nd and 3rd level)

Unless he wears the crown of his helmet on his shoulder, it won't be a penalty.

TexansSeminole
05-02-2013, 08:13 PM
Yea, so, Jacoby Jones just made this list at #88.

This program just lost all credibility.

Lucky
05-02-2013, 08:26 PM
Yea, so, Jacoby Jones just made this list at #88.

This program just lost all credibility.
Dennis Pitta made it @100. Basically, all 22 starters for the Ravens will be on this list.

TexansSeminole
05-02-2013, 08:30 PM
Dennis Pitta made it @100. Basically, all 22 starters for the Ravens will be on this list.

Just insane. They have Jacoby Jones higher than Anquan Boldin and Percy Harvin. Does that make any sense?

I don't know if they really poll players on this, but even if they do, does that make it any more legitimate? I remember watching Hard Knocks and Tannehill didn't even know which teams were in which division, nor did he know what conference certain teams belonged to.

It's a nice idea, but is clearly flawed.

thunderkyss
05-02-2013, 09:01 PM
Just insane. They have Jacoby Jones higher than Anquan Boldin and Percy Harvin. Does that make any sense?


It's a nice idea, but is clearly flawed.

I didn't get to watch it, but I really think he was the MVP of the Super Bowl & should have been Baltimore's MVP throughout the play offs.

But if the players think Jacoby is one of this years top 100....... maybe we're just being petty.

b0ng
05-02-2013, 09:02 PM
Remember when little known Packers fullback John Kuhn made the top 100 at like #100 or #99? Good times.

thunderkyss
05-02-2013, 09:09 PM
For some reason, there is no #88 (http://www.nfl.com/top100/2013#video=0ap2000000164465)

TexansSeminole
05-02-2013, 09:10 PM
I didn't get to watch it, but I really think he was the MVP of the Super Bowl & should have been Baltimore's MVP throughout the play offs.

But if the players think Jacoby is one of this years top 100....... maybe we're just being petty.

Perhaps, but it's hard to see the logic in Jacoby Jones over Percy Harvin and Anquan Boldin, or really any of the guys above him. Even Dennis Pitta.

eriadoc
05-02-2013, 09:10 PM
I didn't get to watch it, but I really think he was the MVP of the Super Bowl & should have been Baltimore's MVP throughout the play offs.

But if the players think Jacoby is one of this years top 100....... maybe we're just being petty.

Anquan Boldin was clearly the better WR all year long and even in the playoffs.

Wolf
05-02-2013, 09:18 PM
90 Percy Havin
89 Cameron Wake
88 Jacoby Jones
87 Bernard Pollard
86 London Fletcher
85 Charles Woodson
84 Steve Smith
83 Lance Briggs
82 Logan Mankins
81 Colin Kaepernic

Will watch the video now and edit accordingly

TexansSeminole
05-02-2013, 09:20 PM
90 Percy Havin
89 Cameron Wake
88???
87 Bernard Pollard
86???
85 Charles Woodson
84 Steve Smith
83 Lance Briggs
82 Logan Mankins
81 Jacoby Jones


Will watch the video now and edit accordingly

88 = Jacoby Jones
86 = London Fletcher
81 = Kaepernick
90 = Percy Harvin

Wolf
05-02-2013, 09:28 PM
88 = Jacoby Jones
86 = London Fletcher
81 = Kaepernick
90 = Percy Harvin

Thanks I guess I was reading and flipping pages, I put jacoby on lol

Yeah. Ravens are going to be overrated in this one

However I figure being they have a reaction show and have interactive fan voting, I am thinking the list was made with magic 8 ball just for the reactions

b0ng
05-02-2013, 10:01 PM
Players will react to it on twitter I'm sure asking who voted on this list it's garbage etc etc.

Fred
05-02-2013, 11:45 PM
Yea, so, Jacoby Jones just made this list at #88.

This program just lost all credibility.

That's a little harsh. I mean, he HAS been the Ravens playoff MVP for two years in a row.

For some reason, there is no #88 (http://www.nfl.com/top100/2013#video=0ap2000000164465)

There was an 88, but after letting it bounce on the ground, they batted it to the other team.

Malloy
05-03-2013, 02:42 AM
And Pollard... hm.... Think I'll stop watching this list now...

Jackie Chiles
05-03-2013, 12:07 PM
Cameron Wake has got to be one of the most underrated players in the NFL. He is a borderline top 5 defensive player. To put Bernard and Jacoby ahead of him is criminal.

thunderkyss
05-03-2013, 07:06 PM
Anquan Boldin was clearly the better WR all year long and even in the playoffs.

I won't argue that. I'm not trying to defend Jacoby as the 88th best player in the league. I definitely don't feel that way. I also do not believe Joe Flacco should be rated higher than Matt Schaub in this year's 100, but I guarantee you he will be.

Apparently all the players still had the Super Bowl on their mind.

& though Boldin was clearly the better player all year long, it's hard (for me) to get past Jacoby in the play-offs & Super Bowl. He made plays in the return game as well as in the passing game. & they were electric. He was electric. Of course, RayLewis laid hands on him & all.

Again, I don't agree with the results, but I can see how it turned out that way.

thunderkyss
05-03-2013, 07:15 PM
And Pollard... hm.... Think I'll stop watching this list now...

I like to watch things like this, because it gives me insight to what the players think, instead of the assuming & projecting we do.

I don't think much of Steve Mariucci and I know most people don't think much of Denny Green. But I like to watch the coaches show & I listen to every Kubiak press conference, because I'd like to know what the coaches are thinking. Real coaches.

I draw the line at Casserly. I'd like to get the insights of GMs as well, but Casserly (imo) doesn't act like a GM anymore, he's more of a shock jock, just saying stuff.

eriadoc
05-03-2013, 08:27 PM
& though Boldin was clearly the better player all year long ...

AND in the playoffs. Jacoby Jones had a couple good plays in the playoffs that people are enamored with. Boldin bailed out Flacco several times on huge plays and people forget that.

TexansSeminole
05-03-2013, 08:38 PM
AND in the playoffs. Jacoby Jones had a couple good plays in the playoffs that people are enamored with. Boldin bailed out Flacco several times on huge plays and people forget that.

Jacoby's TD catch against the Broncos can be most attributed to one if the worst plays by a safety I have ever seen.

thunderkyss
05-03-2013, 09:07 PM
AND in the playoffs. Jacoby Jones had a couple good plays in the playoffs that people are enamored with. Boldin bailed out Flacco several times on huge plays and people forget that.

But he didn't dance in the end zone.

eriadoc
05-03-2013, 11:09 PM
But he didn't dance in the end zone.

Well, I don't know about dancing, but he scored 4 times in the playoffs.

thunderkyss
05-04-2013, 10:25 AM
Well, I don't know about dancing, but he scored 4 times in the playoffs.

Again, I'm not saying Jacoby was the better player, just trying to understand (myself) why more players would have voted him as such.

It's their opinion, not mine.

Think about it like this, in a few weeks they'll be talking about Andre as one of the top 15, maybe even top 10 & we'll be talking about how well they know their sht.

Wolf
05-04-2013, 03:24 PM
After I have taken a step back and looked at the whole picture.I could see Jacoby at 88.

My knee jerk reaction was Jacoby Jones WR at 88..WTF.

I wouldn't have batted an eye if they. Would have listed it as "No.88 -Jacoby Jones WR/KR"

(I still haven't watched the clip BTW)

eriadoc
05-04-2013, 06:45 PM
After I have taken a step back and looked at the whole picture.I could see Jacoby at 88.

I don't see him as the 88th best player out of 1600ish players in the NFL. He had a great Super Bowl and that seems to be the only thing people are remembering. During the season, he caught 30 passes for 406 yards and a TD. He returned 37 punts and 38 kickoffs. He had 2 KR TDs and 1 PR TD. He had more punt return yardage 3 of the 5 years he was in Houston. He was one of the best kickoff return men in 2012, with the 4th best yardage total, best average, and 2 TDs. But his numbers weren't close to any of the great KR years we've seen from guys like Hester, Cribbs, Hall, or even Mathis' one All Pro year.

But even if you argue that he's the 88th best player, I'll let that slide, as long as you don't put Boldin at 93. That's ridiculous.

Wolf
05-04-2013, 11:05 PM
I agree. I should have thought on it a little more , Bouldin should have been At the least Swopped numbers with Jacoby.

I am thinking the reason Jacoby might have gotten on the list higher was the guys in the league got to pick 20 guys. and when they got down to the 20th pick they might have though "me show some special teams love" and the names narrow down a bit there and Jacoby happened to stick in their memory.

infantrycak
05-05-2013, 11:13 AM
Here is an explanation of how the voting works - Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/05/inside-the-top-100-voting-process/)

In short there is a very low participation by players. Even worse these are not folks the players thought were top 100 - they were identified as top 20 players in the league.

Lucky
05-05-2013, 11:42 AM
Here is an explanation of how the voting works - Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/05/inside-the-top-100-voting-process/)

In short there is a very low participation by players. Even worse these are not folks the players thought were top 100 - they were identified as top 20 players in the league.
That's even more confusing? Someone thinks Dennis Pitta is among the top 20 players in the league? I think the Ravens filled out a disproportionate number of ballots.

Playoffs
05-05-2013, 12:02 PM
Just to confirm what a farce this list is, and somewhat explain some bizarre results......on Friday, Eagles linebacker Connor Barwin said via Twitter, ď[E]veryone knows no players actually vote for whoís on that list right?Ē
...
So we asked NFL Network to explain the process, and to confirm that players indeed cast ballots for the list.

Ideally, all players would do it. This year, the league says only 481 of them actually did. Thatís 28.3 percent of all active players.
...
To vote, each player lists only his top 20 players in the league. The player listed at No. 1 gets 20 points, the player listed at No. 2 gets 19 points, and the process continues until the player listed at No. 20 gets one point.

So itís really not a ďtop 100″ list. Itís the 100 players who received the highest vote totals from players who attempted to list their personal top 20, presumably without the benefit of all 32 rosters or starting lineups or Pro Bowl qualifiers or anything else that would ensure they arenít accidentally overlooking someone as they pull 20 names out of thin air.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/05/inside-the-top-100-voting-process/

Goatcheese
05-06-2013, 08:44 PM
I think what happened is that everyone knows who the top 20-30 guys are, and the rest of the list is filled with people who voted for themselves, or got a friend to vote for them. :tiphat:

paycheck71
05-30-2013, 08:14 PM
48. Duane Brown

First of 4 Texans on the list.

LikeMike
05-31-2013, 06:09 AM
48. Duane Brown

First of 4 Texans on the list.

Who are the other ones? I guess Foster, AJ and Watt? I'd have liked to see JoJo, Cushing somewhere on the list. But I guess Cushings season was too short and JoJo kinda had an off year...

paycheck71
05-31-2013, 09:55 AM
Who are the other ones? I guess Foster, AJ and Watt? I'd have liked to see JoJo, Cushing somewhere on the list. But I guess Cushings season was too short and JoJo kinda had an off year...

I agree. I don't see any other Texans making the list. Watt better be in the top 5.

b0ng
05-31-2013, 10:59 AM
I agree. I don't see any other Texans making the list. Watt better be in the top 5.

Best non-QB?

Lucky
05-31-2013, 11:07 AM
Best non-QB?
Best defensive player, anyway. I don't know if he is voted ahead of Peterson or Megatron.

Maddict5
06-01-2013, 06:18 AM
I always wonder how they vote for this. I thought I read somewhere that they just ballot players on their top 20 as top 100 would be too lengthy and get the results from that but I highly doubt anybody would have dennis pitta in the top 20 of anything other than TE's

Apparently, you're mistaken.

apparently, im not

The Pencil Neck
06-01-2013, 10:18 PM
apparently, im not

Yes. You are.

I never specified WHAT you were mistaken about. So being mistaken about being mistaken is still being mistaken.

b0ng
06-03-2013, 12:34 PM
Best defensive player, anyway. I don't know if he is voted ahead of Peterson or Megatron.

I think they've said on the NFL Network that AP was #1 on this list. If Watt doesn't even make the list last year (Which is fair since he basically quadrupled his stats from his rookie season, to his sophmore season), and gets all the way to the top 10 or top 5, that has to be one of the biggest jumps in stature since they started doing this top 100 thing a few years ago right?

paycheck71
06-07-2013, 01:30 PM
Best non-QB?

That's probably a better expectation than top 5.

False Start
06-19-2013, 12:03 AM
Anyone know how many more Texans are gonna be on the list? I'm thinking, AJ, Watt, and Arian.

b0ng
06-19-2013, 08:37 AM
Anyone know how many more Texans are gonna be on the list? I'm thinking, AJ, Watt, and Arian.

4 Texans including Brown, the other 3 have not been revealed yet.

EDIT: It's the 3 you named. I cannot fathom them having any other Texans that high.

Ryan
06-19-2013, 06:55 PM
My bet is AJ and Arian will be on this week. Arian at least for sure. AJ was #8 a couple seasons and like #19 or so even after his injured season, so with a bounceback season like he had i wouldn't be shocked if he was in the top 10 again. JJ should be #2 or 3 imo. I could make an argument for #1 for sure but i'll pay my respects to AD, and i'm sure a QB will be ahead of him.

ESAD2-14
06-20-2013, 09:29 PM
Andre in at # 14

Lucky
06-20-2013, 09:49 PM
Top 10 based upon those yet to be named:

1) Adrian Peterson
2) Tom Brady
3) Peyton Manning
4) Calvin Johnson
5) JJ Watt
6) Aaron Rodgers
7) Von Miller
8) Patrick Willis
9) Arian Foster
10) Aldon Smith

LikeMike
06-24-2013, 08:21 AM
Does Ed Reed count as a Texan yet? If so, Arian might have missed the cut. I don`t believe so though. I think top 10 (and higher than AJ) is a bit high for Foster (would have believed to see him in the 10-20 range), but leaving him out altogether would be blasphemy.

Will be interesting to see, who claims the Nr.1 spot. Peterson, Brady and Watt each have a shot I think. I don`t believe Manning or CJ3 will be up there. It would be great if somehow the league recognizes the best season ever by a defensive lineman and give him the top spot!

ChampionTexan
06-24-2013, 11:46 AM
Does Ed Reed count as a Texan yet? If so, Arian might have missed the cut. I don`t believe so though. I think top 10 (and higher than AJ) is a bit high for Foster (would have believed to see him in the 10-20 range), but leaving him out altogether would be blasphemy.


They've already released the names of the top 10 players - just not the order. It's the 10 included in Lucky's post immediately preceding yours.

The NFL Network's yearly Top 100 Players list has, per usual, generated plenty of buzz. Players vote on their peers, run their mouths when they don't like their ranking and, because it's football and a list of people, folks get all worked up about it. And now they're down to the final 10, announcing the names of the players on the list, though not the order they're in yet.

Alphabetically, the top 10 NFL players from 2012 (as voted on by their peers) are: Tom Brady, Arian Foster, Calvin Johnson, Peyton Manning, Von Miller, Adrian Peterson, Aaron Rodgers, Aldon Smith, J.J. Watt and Patrick Willis.
LINK (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22508490/how-will-the-nfl-networks-final-10-of-top-100-players-shake-out)

thunderkyss
06-24-2013, 01:45 PM
I know we can't wait to kick him out the door, but I'm genuinely shocked that Matt Schaub did not make this list.

Fili
06-24-2013, 04:34 PM
I know we can't wait to kick him out the door, but I'm genuinely shocked that Matt Schaub did not make this list.

The ending of last season really sticks with Schaub and most people remember that as how he played last year. Harder to recall QB play earlier in the season.

paycheck71
06-24-2013, 04:55 PM
I know we can't wait to kick him out the door, but I'm genuinely shocked that Matt Schaub did not make this list.

Heard a Dallas radio station talk today about how Romo didn't make the list, and they brought up Schaub as well. Their point was that both of these QB's are in the top 10 in passer rating (Romo - 4, Schaub - 8) in the regular season, but neither has done enough in the playoffs.

thunderkyss
06-24-2013, 05:23 PM
Heard a Dallas radio station talk today about how Romo didn't make the list, and they brought up Schaub as well. Their point was that both of these QB's are in the top 10 in passer rating (Romo - 4, Schaub - 8) in the regular season, but neither has done enough in the playoffs.

At least Schaub was on a winning team. Can't say the same for Stafford or Cam Newton. I'm not saying Schaub is a better QB than either of them, or that they should be off the list & Schaub in.... just saying if they're on the list, Schaub should be on the list.

I can understand Brees, Eli, & Roethlisberger being on the list based on how good they've been for as long as they have... but Newton & Stafford? Not so much.

paycheck71
06-24-2013, 05:48 PM
At least Schaub was on a winning team. Can't say the same for Stafford or Cam Newton. I'm not saying Schaub is a better QB than either of them, or that they should be off the list & Schaub in.... just saying if they're on the list, Schaub should be on the list.

I can understand Brees, Eli, & Roethlisberger being on the list based on how good they've been for as long as they have... but Newton & Stafford? Not so much.

I agree.

It may have been in this thread, or it may have been somewhere else, but I read that the players get to list their top 20, not top 100. So, basically, enough players have to think a player belongs in top 20 for them to make the list. That's another thing to keep in mind.

Thorn
06-24-2013, 06:12 PM
So we got two of the top ten players from last year. Not bad.

dream_team
06-24-2013, 06:32 PM
I agree.

It may have been in this thread, or it may have been somewhere else, but I read that the players get to list their top 20, not top 100. So, basically, enough players have to think a player belongs in top 20 for them to make the list. That's another thing to keep in mind.

So there are people that actually think Dennis Pitta or Jacoby Jones are Top 20 guys?

b0ng
06-25-2013, 01:56 PM
So there are people that actually think Dennis Pitta or Jacoby Jones are Top 20 guys?

Yeah I'm not buying that either. I know Jacoby Jones was pretty instrumental in their playoff run but he was basically what he was when he was on the Texans (Of course, without fumbling any crucial punts, naturally).

thunderkyss
06-25-2013, 05:33 PM
Yeah I'm not buying that either. I know Jacoby Jones was pretty instrumental in their playoff run but he was basically what he was when he was on the Texans (Of course, without fumbling any crucial punts, naturally).

I think it's still a work in progress right now. The players are probably still figuring out how their votes made up the top 100. I think the list is 80% reasonable.

It's definitely good for sparking off-season conversation which I believe was the main purpose.

Norg
06-26-2013, 07:09 PM
so uhhh why schaub not on this least after going like 12-4 and winning a playoff game

Lucky
06-27-2013, 09:18 PM
Top 10 based upon those yet to be named:

1) Adrian Peterson
2) Tom Brady
3) Peyton Manning
4) Calvin Johnson
5) JJ Watt
6) Aaron Rodgers
7) Von Miller
8) Patrick Willis
9) Arian Foster
10) Aldon Smith

I was close but I undersold Arian a bit.

5) JJ Watt
6) Aaron Rodgers
7) Aldon Smith
8) Arian Foster
9) Von Miller
10) Patrick Willis

ATXtexanfan
06-27-2013, 09:28 PM
so uhhh why schaub not on this least after going like 12-4 and winning a playoff game

Cause we and the players know hes a fraud.

paycheck71
06-27-2013, 10:06 PM
Watt better be in the top 5.

5. J.J. Watt

I'm happy. I guess, I would have ranked him above Megatron, but probably below Rodgers, so all is good.

Norg
06-28-2013, 01:36 AM
how is andy Dalton on this list but not matt schaub

The Pencil Neck
06-28-2013, 02:02 AM
how is andy Dalton on this list but not matt schaub

Because if Matt Schaub was on the list, he wouldn't have anything to prove next year.

This way, the full power of the Schaub shall be unveiled in all its magnificent glory! Beware, NFL, the Schaub is coming! And he's coming for you!

HOU-TEX
06-28-2013, 11:04 AM
Dalton was not on the list this year

Anyone notice Arian's comment towards Sapp after he made the meat remark? Arian was asked why he thought he rose up the chart this year, Sapp pops off "cuz he quit eatin meat". Arian quickly says "you need to quit eatin meat". Kinda funny

Arian also began saying he didn't like lists or rankings. Music started playing in the background like they were going to cut him off if he continued raggin on the list. But, he started talking up the players, the music stopped

It was just classic Arian, man. Funny stuff and totally agree with him. It's all about TV and entertainment

Double Barrel
06-28-2013, 01:16 PM
Dalton was not on the list this year

Anyone notice Arian's comment towards Sapp after he made the meat remark? Arian was asked why he thought he rose up the chart this year, Sapp pops off "cuz he quit eatin meat". Arian quickly says "you need to quit eatin meat". Kinda funny

Arian also began saying he didn't like lists or rankings. Music started playing in the background like they were going to cut him off if he continued raggin on the list. But, he started talking up the players, the music stopped

It was just classic Arian, man. Funny stuff and totally agree with him. It's all about TV and entertainment

yep. It's really just a popularity contest. And I'm not completely convinced that the list is truly 100% players. I would not be surprised if NFL Network suits take the players poll and then manipulate the final list to fit their agendas.