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Thorn
04-27-2013, 10:35 AM
Maybe we can pick up some good left overs today.

I wouldn't mind getting a good RB if there are any left.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 10:41 AM
There are 2-3 good RB's I'd be happy with later.

I still would like 1 more WR and just solidify that position going forward for awhile. Still alot of WRs who were considered potential mid-late 2nd rounders.

No longer really interested in a TE.

As for QB I could be happy with Dysert or Bray.

and that's really all I want for offense.

Defense we just need DEPTH .... and maybe an NT/DT with a potential to start. so just BPA at all positions there.

Thorn
04-27-2013, 10:44 AM
Right now my main interests are in NT, RB and QB. I'm pretty sure another D lineman of some sort will be taken by the Texans today. I've also grown leery of Ben Tate and would like another RB. As to QB, if Keenum isn't going to work out (I REALLY hope he does) then we need to start looking.

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 10:54 AM
Right now my main interests are in NT, RB and QB. I'm pretty sure another D lineman of some sort will be taken by the Texans today. I've also grown leery of Ben Tate and would like another RB. As to QB, if Keenum isn't going to work out (I REALLY hope he does) then we need to start looking.

I would definitely add ILB to that "want" list.

b0ng
04-27-2013, 10:55 AM
Mike Gislelli is available and might be a decent pickup here. Also a fan of looking into Da'Rick Rogers or Ryan Swope at WR.

texanhead08
04-27-2013, 10:56 AM
Does anyone think Marcus Lattimore will be picked or are those major injuries too much of a concern?

b0ng
04-27-2013, 10:59 AM
Does anyone think Marcus Lattimore will be picked or are those major injuries too much of a concern?

He'll get picked, he's got too much talent not to at least take a late round flyer on to see if he recovers from injury well.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:04 AM
Does anyone think Marcus Lattimore will be picked or are those major injuries too much of a concern?

Packers have 10 picks today. Worth a flyer for them.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 11:05 AM
Lattimore will go to the Patriots

bckey
04-27-2013, 11:06 AM
Maybe we can pick up some good left overs today.

I wouldn't mind getting a good RB if there are any left.


Andre Ellington?

b0ng
04-27-2013, 11:07 AM
Barkley to the Eagles, fairly surprising!

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 11:07 AM
I would definitely add ILB to that "want" list.
Yeah, I concur. Has Sharpton ever made it thru a complete season?? And Rudd would be good enough if it were 4-5 yrs ago; now, not so much. Let's give Cush some help.

b0ng
04-27-2013, 11:10 AM
Yeah, I concur. Has Sharpton ever made it thru a complete season?? And Rudd would be good enough if it were 4-5 yrs ago; now, not so much. Let's give Cush some help.

I definitely want to see another WR taken, maybe not in the 4th but I want one more.

Dang, Nico Johnson gone.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:11 AM
Dang, Nico Johnson gone.

Damn.

coon
04-27-2013, 11:12 AM
Glad that Nico was taken, I want Greene or Klein.

coon
04-27-2013, 11:16 AM
We need to move up. There are still a few guys who can come in and make an impact this year for us.

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 11:16 AM
We need to move up. There are still a few guys who can come in and make an impact this year for us.
don't keep us in suspense, name names!

DX-TEX
04-27-2013, 11:20 AM
Packers rumored to be offering Desmond Bishop ILB for trade. He any good?

Put this here since it may be a trade for picks.

coon
04-27-2013, 11:20 AM
don't keep us in suspense, name names!

Jesse Wiliiams NT, Keseem Greene ILB, A.J. Klein ILB, Im sure there are more but those are my guys. Greene and Klein can cover TE, and Greene is an absolute Navarro Bowman type still at this point IMO.
Alex Okafor too, Montgomery is probably better at DE, Okafor is twitchy and could play OLB.

mattieuk
04-27-2013, 11:22 AM
Does anyone think Marcus Lattimore will be picked or are those major injuries too much of a concern?

Would love to see us pick him up. Perfect situation - plenty of starting talent at the position - he can train, build up any strength and not have to worry about being put in harms way for the first year.

coon
04-27-2013, 11:23 AM
Okafor is a very good pick.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 11:25 AM
I wanted Okafor in that OLB rotation with Mercilus and Montgomery with BR moving to ILB.

Damn.

srrono
04-27-2013, 11:25 AM
HOU should move up to grab one of these value guys early

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 11:34 AM
Miami is sneakily having a pretty decent draft


the b@st@rds

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:40 AM
Schwenke C rated higher than Cowboys 1st Round pick.

Wolf
04-27-2013, 11:41 AM
Tits ate working on he o-line to combat Watt and company

Wolf
04-27-2013, 11:45 AM
Hmm nassib to the giants after by traded up to get him

WolverineFan
04-27-2013, 11:45 AM
Titans have had a pretty darn good draft. Jags have been okay and Colts have been meh.

We've easily had the best haul thus far.

DX-TEX
04-27-2013, 11:45 AM
Tits ate working on he o-line to combat Watt and company

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 27s
Titans now have remade their interior OL: C Brian Schwenke, G Chance Warmack, G Andy Levitre.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/6540831/159414233.0_standard_352.0.jpg

You're damn right you better redo that interior o line

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:46 AM
Hmm nassib to the giants after by traded up to get him

HWNSNBMH out of a job?

Wolf
04-27-2013, 11:47 AM
Carr and "solid #2" thrown out in same sentence :lol:

DX-TEX
04-27-2013, 11:47 AM
HWNSNBMH out of a job?

Trading him back to Houston.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:48 AM
Giants took Pugh in 1st, great video -- wait til end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9lhgBXPEk

TEXANRED
04-27-2013, 11:49 AM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/6540831/159414233.0_standard_352.0.jpg

You're damn right you better redo that interior o line

Watt: And I'll break this OLine just like your last one.

Houston_Fanatic
04-27-2013, 11:54 AM
Watt: And I'll break this OLine just like your last one.



:lol:

steelbtexan
04-27-2013, 11:54 AM
Schwenke C rated higher than Cowboys 1st Round pick.

Schwenke will be a 10 yr starter with M&M coaching him up. I hate that the Tacks got him.

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 11:58 AM
Carr and "solid #2" thrown out in same sentence :lol:
Well he is.
I've never once seen or even heard of him fumbling the clipboard.
:kitten:

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 11:59 AM
Man, Jesse Williams knee must be shot.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 11:59 AM
Thinking the next pick will be lb, DT/NT, or TE.

mariowillshine15
04-27-2013, 12:02 PM
RB- Lattimore, Franklin

WR-Rogers, Patton, Swope

They may not be needs but the value is high.

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:03 PM
There goes Khaseem Greene to the Bears.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 12:04 PM
Sh!t. Bears nab one of my guys.

6 picks to Texans.

TEXANRED
04-27-2013, 12:06 PM
Thinking the next pick will be lb, DT/NT, or TE.

It needs to be. Our DL depth is suffering from anorexia.

coon
04-27-2013, 12:07 PM
I hate Chicago.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:07 PM
RB- Lattimore, Franklin

WR-Rogers, Patton, Swope

They may not be needs but the value is high.

Texans already took Montgomery. Can't take another character guy :)

mariowillshine15
04-27-2013, 12:09 PM
Texans already took Montgomery. Can't take another character guy :)

O yeah were limited to one of those each offseason right? lol

srrono
04-27-2013, 12:09 PM
Need to jump ahead of WAS-GB-IND to grab 34 def prospects

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 12:09 PM
Sean Porter gone, looking at ILB A.J Klein, Iowa State (6-1, 250), ILB Kevin Reddick, North Carolina (6-1, 243), OLB Chase Thomas, Stanford (6-3, 244)?

PapaL
04-27-2013, 12:10 PM
I think Ben Tate has a year left on his contract and leaves next year; perfect to have Lattimore sit for the year.

NCTexan
04-27-2013, 12:15 PM
Sean Porter gone, looking at ILB A.J Klein, Iowa State (6-1, 250), ILB Kevin Reddick, North Carolina (6-1, 243), OLB Chase Thomas, Stanford (6-3, 244)?

According to the guys at PredictionMachine.com (which is solely statistical analysis, but it's very in depth) Chase Thomas is one of the best pass rushers this draft. They have him rated higher than Dion Jordan.

I have no idea how their picks normally work out though.

I wouldn't mind another UNC guy in Reddick!

drs23
04-27-2013, 12:17 PM
Hmm nassib to the giants after by traded up to get him

UH-OH, looks like someone lost their clipboard job.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:18 PM
If we draft Rogers here we may be set at receiver for the next few years. I'd rather take an Inside Backer, but getting a 1st round talent in the 4th is hard to pass up.

infantrycak
04-27-2013, 12:18 PM
PFT is reporting the Packers are making ILB Desmond Bishop available for trade. He is coming off a hamstring injury. 28 years old. If they want to take a late round pick that seems worthy of consideration.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 12:18 PM
Pack nabs Tretter.

b0ng
04-27-2013, 12:19 PM
Porter/Greene/Jones were all guys I wouldn't have minded.

coon
04-27-2013, 12:19 PM
Jesse Williams, or A.J. Klein, who do you prefer?

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:20 PM
How about a trade down?

b0ng
04-27-2013, 12:21 PM
Jesse Williams, or A.J. Klein, who do you prefer?

Is Da'Rick Rogers gone? What about Swope?

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 12:21 PM
Hawks take Harper.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:21 PM
Jesse Williams, or A.J. Klein, who do you prefer?

Swope or Da'Rick Rodgers

NCTexan
04-27-2013, 12:21 PM
How is Quinton Patton still on the board? Did I miss something with him?

DX-TEX
04-27-2013, 12:22 PM
PFT is reporting the Packers are making ILB Desmond Bishop available for trade. He is coming off a hamstring injury. 28 years old. If they want to take a late round pick that seems worthy of consideration.

Mentioned that a couple pages ago. Has a cap number of 3.8 million or so though

coon
04-27-2013, 12:23 PM
Swope is overrated, I can get behind Rodgers.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:23 PM
How is Quinton Patton still on the board? Did I miss something with him?

I thought he would be gone too. I'd be fine with that but we got Trevardo Williams DE

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 12:23 PM
Trevardo Williams, interesting

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
Pick is in.

It's Trevardo Williams!

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
Williams, Trevardo DE move to OLB

Wolf
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
Texans get trevardo williams from uconn

Wonder if he will wear 90 :heh:

TEXANRED
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
Loading up on linebackers.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
Not upset at this pick at all.

NCTexan
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
I thought he would be gone too. I'd be fine with that but we got Trevardo Williams DE

Maybe him or Rodgers will be there in the 5th for us? That'd be sweet.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:24 PM
LOVE the pick!

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:25 PM
The Packers are going to take a WR here

ATRAIN
04-27-2013, 12:26 PM
Another Pass rusher makes me happy in our Def :)

texanhead08
04-27-2013, 12:27 PM
How does a pass rusher who was productive with 4.42 speed last this long ?

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:27 PM
Swope's concussion history is making him a risky pick. I can see him lasting until the 6the.

TEXANRED
04-27-2013, 12:27 PM
LOVE the pick!

Why? I don't know anything about this guy.

Fyler
04-27-2013, 12:28 PM
Maybe him or Rodgers will be there in the 5th for us? That'd be sweet.

I'd love either of these guys and in the 5th round? that'd be HUGE imo

Why? I don't know anything about this guy.

And same. But I don't mind stocking up on our Linebackers

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:29 PM
How does a pass rusher who was productive with 4.42 speed last this long ?
Ran 4.57 at combine. 30 reps on bench, 38" vertical.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 12:29 PM
Is Da'Rick Rogers gone? What about Swope?

They're both still in play. Hopefully they last another round.

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 12:30 PM
How does a pass rusher who was productive with 4.42 speed last this long ?
My guess would be level of competition. U-Conn isn't exactly a football powerhouse, right...?

DX-TEX
04-27-2013, 12:30 PM
Why? I don't know anything about this guy.

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 3m
I thought Trevardo Williams was a solid 3rd and one of my favorite 3-4 OLBs on the board. Great edge burst. Love that pick for Texans

Lance Z likes him

PapaL
04-27-2013, 12:31 PM
Film break down of Trevardo Williams. Dude has speed for days!

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1605441-trevardo-williams-video-highlights-for-former-connecticut-olb

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:32 PM
I'd trade our sixth and seventh to move up for Rogers. I know we won't but I would.

EllisUnit
04-27-2013, 12:33 PM
Least impressive pick thus far IMO

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:33 PM
Why? I don't know anything about this guy.

High level high motor player. 245lbs 4.57 speed. late 2nd round talant. 42 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks and a forced fumble in 2012. In 2011 12.5 sacks, 15 tackles for a loss, 43 tackles and two forced fumbles.

Good combo of speed and size. A serious sleeper olb for wade.

msbbc833
04-27-2013, 12:34 PM
Maybe we can pickup Rogers or Stills or Swope in the 5th. Loving the draft so far!

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:34 PM
Least impressive pick thus far IMO

You'd hope so. It's the lowest pick thus far.

bckey
04-27-2013, 12:37 PM
Love the Trevardo Williams pick. The Texans are really loading up on linebackers. No shortage this year. They must be considering moving Brooks inside.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:38 PM
Patton to the Niners, the rich get richer

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:38 PM
This has been our best draft through the first four rounds maybe ever.

EllisUnit
04-27-2013, 12:38 PM
Least impressive pick thus far IMO

ewww after watching some game film he is pretty explosive, might need to bulk up as he gets man handled alot imo, but seems to have good speed.

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:38 PM
This has been our best draft through the first four rounds maybe ever.

I agree.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:38 PM
Love the Trevardo Williams pick. The Texans are really loading up on linebackers. No shortage this year. They must be considering moving Brooks inside.

Sam Montgomery may be better iside than out.

Fyler
04-27-2013, 12:39 PM
What are you guys hope for next? Swope and Rodgers would be nice but i'd be shocked if they have been drafted.

bckey
04-27-2013, 12:40 PM
The Texans desperately need to address nt. Maybe they have some hidden gem in mind for the last rounds.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:40 PM
Maybe we can pickup Rogers or Stills or Swope in the 5th. Loving the draft so far!

I doubt it. Dolphins will take Swope at 164 and Rogers won't last till us. Patton just went to the 9ners, and a savvy team will pick up Stills

Ben Frank
04-27-2013, 12:40 PM
Hmmm.. wonder if Antonio Smith moves to NT and Montgomery comes in as DE instead, since picking up T. Williams.. If i'm not mistaken i thought Smith played some NT in Arizona 34, but i could be wrong

mariowillshine15
04-27-2013, 12:41 PM
What are you guys hope for next? Swope and Rodgers would be nice but i'd be shocked if they have been drafted.

Lattimore! Let him sit and recover and he replaces Tate next year when his contract expires.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:41 PM
The Texans desperately need to address nt. Maybe they have some hidden gem in mind for the last rounds.

Casey Hampton has said he wants to play another two years. Just sayin....

bckey
04-27-2013, 12:41 PM
Sam Montgomery may be better iside than out.

Has he ever played inside linebacker?

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:42 PM
Hmmm.. wonder if Antonio Smith moves to NT and Montgomery comes in as DE instead, since picking up T. Williams.. If i'm not mistaken i thought Smith played some NT in Arizona 34, but i could be wrong

I think it is more likely to see Montgomery backup Smith, if he plays at DE. We don't need to move Antonio Smith around. Let's not fix something that isn't broke.

WolverineFan
04-27-2013, 12:42 PM
Least impressive pick thus far IMO

Disagree. This is much better than the Montgomery pick.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:42 PM
The Texans desperately need to address nt. Maybe they have some hidden gem in mind for the last rounds.

It's more likely we'll bring in a UDFA at this point.

PapaL
04-27-2013, 12:43 PM
ewww after watching some game film he is pretty explosive, might need to bulk up as he gets man handled alot imo, but seems to have good speed.

He's 6'1" 240. Bulk up really? Did he steal your bicycle or something? Why so down?

http://pagefootballscouting.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/trevardo-williams.png

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 12:43 PM
Sam Montgomery may be better iside than out.

Interesting that you say that. I am writing my grades for the draft, and had the same thought. Obviously we have to see what he looks like in coverage, but with is football sense and lack of burst, it might be a good idea.

bckey
04-27-2013, 12:44 PM
Casey Hampton has said he wants to play another two years. Just sayin....

The Hampton and Texan rumors have been going on for a long time.

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:44 PM
I take it back the Dolphins don't have a 5th, we could get Swope before them *unless they trade up*

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 12:45 PM
Sam Montgomery may be better iside than out.

I hadn't thought about that.

You could be right.

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 12:46 PM
I think it is more likely to see Montgomery backup Smith, if he plays at DE. We don't need to move Antonio Smith around. Let's not fix something that isn't broke.
This is what I'm thinking. Montgomery will learn from Ninja this year then take Ninja's place when his contract is up. If the kid shows promise, then Antonio doesn't have to take so many snaps/game.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:46 PM
The Hampton and Texan rumors have been going on for a long time.

For good reason...... He wants to continue to play. Texans need a NT. Wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 12:47 PM
This is what I'm thinking. Montgomery will learn from Ninja this year then take Ninja's place when his contract is up. If the kid shows promise, then Antonio doesn't have to take so many snaps/game.

I thought that was Crick's job.

Are we dealing with the NT situation by moving Crick there?

Wolf
04-27-2013, 12:47 PM
San Fran .....going to be loaded

Lattimore

bckey
04-27-2013, 12:47 PM
Some players I have left on my list.


Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech
Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois
Jonathan Stewart, ILB, TEXAS A&M
Blaize Foltz, G, TCU

Fyler
04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
there goes Lattimore

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
Are the Niners going to carry 5 backs this year?

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
Seriously hating the good talent the 9ners are getting right now. Who is their GM?

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
there goes Lattimore

Yeah.

Damn.

Fyler
04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
Some players I have left on my list.


Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
Rodgers - WR
Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois
Jonathan Stewart, ILB, TEXAS A&M


There you go

PapaL
04-27-2013, 12:49 PM
San Fran .....going to be loaded

Lattimore

Indeed...

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 12:49 PM
Are the Niners going to carry 5 backs this year?

Lattimore is going to sit out the season and could be a key contributor for them the next year

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:50 PM
I thought that was Crick's job.

Are we dealing with the NT situation by moving Crick there?

It wouldn't hurt to have Montgomery to help Crick and Jamison.

I'm not sure Montgomery has the size needed to play the DE position, but who knows. He looks like a guy that can get after the QB, regardless of where you put him.

I hope we don't move Crick to NT. I like him where he is at.

beerlover
04-27-2013, 12:50 PM
Montgomery will via to start LOLB then kick inside to LDE in pass rush situations & Williams comes in as Pass Rush LB.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:50 PM
San Fran .....going to be loaded

Lattimore

They were loaded last year. Just more of the same.

sometexansfan
04-27-2013, 12:50 PM
Are the Niners going to carry 5 backs this year?

They'll stash him on IR probably.

drs23
04-27-2013, 12:51 PM
Seriously hating the good talent the 9ners are getting right now. Who is their GM?

Wade. :kitten::kitten:

EllisUnit
04-27-2013, 12:51 PM
He's 6'1" 240. Bulk up really? Did he steal your bicycle or something? Why so down?

http://pagefootballscouting.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/trevardo-williams.png

haha na but watch all his games, the guy gets man handeled unless he gets a jump and around his man, but going straight up the boy does nothing.

Fyler
04-27-2013, 12:51 PM
San Fran .....going to be loaded

Lattimore

I been saying Texans - Niners Superbowl since last month and I'm stickin to it. The only team who we have to worry about is Denver.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 12:52 PM
Lattimore is going to sit out the season and could be a key contributor for them the next year

I was saying it jokingly. They have a stable back there though. If all are healthy even excluding Lattimore they'll be beastly with the receivers they've added this off season and with Williams and Manningham coming back.

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:52 PM
Montgomery will via to start LOLB then kick inside to LDE in pass rush situations & Williams comes in as Pass Rush LB.

That sounds alot more likely.

PapaL
04-27-2013, 12:53 PM
I been saying Texans - Niners Superbowl since last month and I'm stickin to it. The only team who we have to worry about is Denver.

And that one team that continually beats our ass.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 12:53 PM
Has he ever played inside linebacker?

Good lateral movement, good tackler, can attack the play. Can blitz too.

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 12:55 PM
I thought that was Crick's job.

Are we dealing with the NT situation by moving Crick there?

hmmm... let's think about the front seven rotation...

Mercilus/T.Williams
Watt/Crick
Mitchell/??
Smith/Montgomery
Reed/Braman
Cushing
Sharpton/???

Now was it Braman or Reed folks were talking about moving to ILB. Williams gives Wade that option.

drs23
04-27-2013, 12:58 PM
hmmm... let's think about the front seven rotation...

Mercilus/T.Williams
Watt/Crick
Mitchell/??
Smith/Montgomery
Reed/Braman
Cushing
Sharpton/???

Now was it Braman or Reed folks were talking about moving to ILB. Williams gives Wade that option.

Like everyone else I heard Gary talking about moving Reed inside and actually lined up inside a few snaps last season. I've not heard Braman's name mentioned to do the same.

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 12:59 PM
All signs are that we are moving someone inside, so it is probably Brooks Reed.

It's that or we are targeting a free agent or someone via trade.

Fyler
04-27-2013, 01:00 PM
And that one team that continually beats our ass.

Denver will play em and beat em in the playoffs.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 01:00 PM
76T's TE Tulolo goes end of 4th.

mariowillshine15
04-27-2013, 01:01 PM
All signs are that we are moving someone inside, so it is probably Brooks Reed.

It's that or we are targeting a free agent or someone via trade.

I think they wanted Arthur Brown but Baltimore moved in front of them.

bckey
04-27-2013, 01:01 PM
Good lateral movement, good tackler, can attack the play. Can blitz too.

I appreciate your analysis but I just wanted to know if he has ever played ilb.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:01 PM
hmmm... let's think about the front seven rotation...

Mercilus/T.Williams
Watt/Crick
Mitchell/??
Smith/Montgomery
Reed/Braman
Cushing
Sharpton/???

Now was it Braman or Reed folks were talking about moving to ILB. Williams gives Wade that option.

Instead of position by position, I break it down like this because I think it's more accurate in how Wade likes to rotate:

OLB: Mercilus/Montgomery/Williams/Braman
ILB: Cushing/Reed/Sharpton/Dobbins
DE: Watt/Smith/Crick/Jamison
NT: Mitchell/???

We can possibly use Crick at times in the NT rotation, but I'd prefer to keep him at DE. I think we're going to be looking through the FAs for an NT and I'm hoping we get someone we like later.

But... I'm hoping someone like Swope drops to us, too.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:02 PM
Like everyone else I heard Gary talking about moving Reed inside and actually lined up inside a few snaps last season. I've not heard Braman's name mentioned to do the same.

Didn't Wade play Braman a little bit at ILB in the preseason last year?

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:02 PM
hmmm... let's think about the front seven rotation...

Mercilus/T.Williams
Watt/Crick
Mitchell/??
Smith/Montgomery
Reed/Braman
Cushing
Sharpton/???

Now was it Braman or Reed folks were talking about moving to ILB. Williams gives Wade that option.

Montgomery is only 260. Too small for DE.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:03 PM
I appreciate your analysis but I just wanted to know if he has ever played ilb.

No. He played DE at LSU.

Wolf
04-27-2013, 01:07 PM
Seattle with Jesse williams

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 01:07 PM
Seattle is going to be one tough team to beat

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 01:07 PM
Montgomery is only 260. Too small for DE.
hmmm... that's where he played at LSU...

...and he's listed as a DE on the HT.com roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html

but what do they know
:kitten:

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:09 PM
hmmm... that's where he played at LSU...

...and he's listed as a DE on the HT.com roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html

but what do they know
:kitten:

Which coach did they trot out at the press conference to talk about the pick? Herring, the LB coach.

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 01:09 PM
Seattle with Jesse williams
Damn...
Seattle is loading up to go toe-to-toe with SF

sometexansfan
04-27-2013, 01:10 PM
hmmm... that's where he played at LSU...

...and he's listed as a DE on the HT.com roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html

but what do they know
:kitten:

3-4 DE's tend to be bigger, for example Smith is listed at 284 and Watt at 295.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:12 PM
hmmm... that's where he played at LSU...

...and he's listed as a DE on the HT.com roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html

but what do they know
:kitten:

The Press Conference Link (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-LB-coach-Reggie-Herring-press-conference/c7446007-1dc0-41ae-86ab-ef00408f407b)
And here's what Herring said:


(on if he envisions Montgomery lining up over the tight end initially) Thats a great question. What wed like to do is wed like to start him out on the tight end as a SAM position. First, we have to find out can he drop and how adequate he can be. If he can make the transition and drop to the point where first and second down, hes not hurting the football team and hes okay or at least adequate in his job. The other things that he brings to the table could make him an outstanding player and a potential star for us someday. Thats what we see, starting him out at SAM. Weve got to find out. Then, if he cant, we always have the easy transition to move him over to the weak side and say you rush 95 percent of the time, which we know he can do off the edge as he did as a d-end in college. We try the most difficult task first. We throw him in the fire and see if it works. At the least, we see him as having sub-rush value which right now, with Connor Barwin moving on and having Brooks Reed and (Whitney) Mercilus, the only other outside backer we have on campus is Bryan Braman. This guy, Bryan has talent, speed and ability, but this guy right now possesses a very raw power in speed to power rush that could help us as far as depth and pass rush as the year goes on. So he does fill a void.


Looks like OLB to me.

srrono
04-27-2013, 01:12 PM
Well I am extremely disapointed that no NT has been taken I am so tired of having subpar players at the NT position. We needed to make the DL stronger to help Watt this year, expect every team to double Watt all year. If NT was a strength instead of a weakness doubling Watt would have been more difficult to do.
:toropalm:

ObsiWan
04-27-2013, 01:13 PM
Instead of position by position, I break it down like this because I think it's more accurate in how Wade likes to rotate:

OLB: Mercilus/Montgomery/Williams/Braman
ILB: Cushing/Reed/Sharpton/Dobbins
DE: Watt/Smith/Crick/Jamison
NT: Mitchell/???

We can possibly use Crick at times in the NT rotation, but I'd prefer to keep him at DE. I think we're going to be looking through the FAs for an NT and I'm hoping we get someone we like later.

But... I'm hoping someone like Swope drops to us, too.
Back to this analysis...
I don't have any issue at all with how you've got them aligned. Gives Wade lots of flexibility.

except at NT....
Rick, Wade.... we're waiting....:foottap:
:bat:

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:14 PM
hmmm... that's where he played at LSU...

...and he's listed as a DE on the HT.com roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html

but what do they know
:kitten:

LSU plays a 4-3 defense. A 4-3 DE traditionally converts to a 3-4 OLB.

srrono
04-27-2013, 01:15 PM
Damn...
Seattle is loading up to go toe-to-toe with SF

BAL SEA SF load up on players that slip and are value picks even if it means to trade up to grab them thats a major difference between them and Houston.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:15 PM
DAMN YOU!!!! COLTS!!!

I was trying not to say anything but I was wanting him this damn round.

Damn.

Section516
04-27-2013, 01:16 PM
Lattimore to 49'ers. IR him for the year?

Fili
04-27-2013, 01:16 PM
I'm thinking we go FS, CB, RB, or DT.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:16 PM
DAMN YOU!!!! COLTS!!!

I was trying not to say anything but I was wanting him this damn round.

Damn.

Me too. Geathers is still there...

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:17 PM
Lattimore to 49'ers. IR him for the year?

PUP him and then move him to IR when he can't come back.

bobbeaux
04-27-2013, 01:17 PM
still holding out hope for ilb's mauti or reddick in the 5th . . . ;)

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 01:17 PM
BAL SEA SF load up on players that slip and are value picks even if it means to trade up to grab them thats a major difference between them and Houston.

I would say every pick we've gotten is a great value pick so I politely disagree with you.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 01:17 PM
Seahawks select 6'2" CB Tharold Simon -- just arrested yesterday.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:18 PM
Me too. Geathers is still there...

There's also Dawkins, Grissom, and several other good options. But I loved Hughes' potential.

infantrycak
04-27-2013, 01:19 PM
hmmm... that's where he played at LSU...

...and he's listed as a DE on the HT.com roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html

but what do they know
:kitten:

The folks sitting up at Reliant editing the webpage aren't in on any of the planning sessions. They are just listing college positions for now.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 01:19 PM
Seahawks select 6'2" CB Tharold Simon -- just arrested yesterday.

Yeah, supposedly over something minor though. The kid can play. He shouldn't have to step in and play much early either unless they have an injury.

thunderkyss
04-27-2013, 01:21 PM
Well I am extremely disapointed that no NT has been taken I am so tired of having subpar players at the NT position. We needed to make the DL stronger to help Watt this year, expect every team to double Watt all year. If NT was a strength instead of a weakness doubling Watt would have been more difficult to do.
:toropalm:

Antonio draws plenty of double teams. If we had an outside pass rush, Watt would have easily broke the single season sack record.

NT, is obviously getting Wade what he wants. If we're going to pat him on his back for everything else he does on defense, we need to let this sub-par NT crap go.

We don't have to understand it... just let it go.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:21 PM
The folks sitting up at Reliant editing the webpage aren't in on any of the planning sessions. They are just listing college positions for now.

Also like I said, LSU plays a 4-3. He is way too small to play 5 tech. They probably saw DE and just put him there without any real thinking.

Rey
04-27-2013, 01:23 PM
I'd rather pick up a back like barner that can also return kicks.

thunderkyss
04-27-2013, 01:26 PM
Also like I said, LSU plays a 4-3. He is way too small to play 5 tech. They probably saw DE and just put him there without any real thinking.

Dwight Freeny has made an All-Pro career playing the 5-tech as a smallish DE.

Antonio plays the 3 tech, the UT. 260lbs is way to small & I doubt it's ever been done in the NFL.

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 01:26 PM
The Titans are doing really well in this draft guys.

thunderkyss
04-27-2013, 01:28 PM
The Titans are doing really well in this draft guys.

This must be a really deep draft, seems like everyone is doing pretty well.

May not be a lot of stars out there, but from what I'm reading, a lot of solid players.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 01:29 PM
I want a CB.

In this league, I'd draft a CB every year.

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:30 PM
Dwight Freeny has made an All-Pro career playing the 5-tech as a smallish DE.

Antonio plays the 3 tech, the UT. 260lbs is way to small & I doubt it's ever been done in the NFL.

Typo on my part. 260 is too small for 3-4 DE :)

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 01:37 PM
ARG. I really wanted Quanterus Smith!

drs23
04-27-2013, 01:44 PM
There went A.J. Klien to the Panthers so mark him off the want list.

Fili
04-27-2013, 01:45 PM
Defense is really going this round.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 01:46 PM
There went A.J. Klien to the Panthers so mark him off the want list.

Damnsh!t.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:47 PM
There went A.J. Klien to the Panthers so mark him off the want list.

These other teams in the NFL are really starting to piss me off.

drs23
04-27-2013, 01:49 PM
These other teams in the NFL are really starting to piss me off.

They're cherry pickin' ain't they? Bastads!

Fyler
04-27-2013, 01:50 PM
Did Rodgers get picked? if not Swope?

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 01:51 PM
Available95 Da'Rick Rogers WR Tennessee Tech

101 David Quessenberry OT San Jose State
102 Matt Scott QB Arizona
104 Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia
108 Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
110 Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
119 Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State
124 Josh Evans FS Florida

srrono
04-27-2013, 01:53 PM
Antonio draws plenty of double teams. If we had an outside pass rush, Watt would have easily broke the single season sack record.

NT, is obviously getting Wade what he wants. If we're going to pat him on his back for everything else he does on defense, we need to let this sub-par NT crap go.

We don't have to understand it... just let it go.

Wade can make do without a good NT I understand that. Don't you think Wade could do more with this def with a weapon as a NT. If HOU stands pat we can expect the same problems I just want to see improvment Watt cant do it all by himself.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 01:55 PM
Wade can make do without a good NT I understand that. Don't you think Wade could do more with this def with a weapon as a NT. If HOU stands pat we can expect the same problems I just want to see improvment Watt cant do it all by himself.

I'd kinda like Cory Grissom at this point. He's a high motor guy, a little out of control but he could be used as the penetrator type of NT Wade wants.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 01:57 PM
5 picks...

Thorn
04-27-2013, 01:59 PM
So what's up with this Jordan Poyer CB guy? I notice he was rated as a 2nd round pick. He's still available.

panamamyers
04-27-2013, 02:00 PM
Still can't believe people wanted us to take Swope with a 2nd or 3rd.
His was the quickest ascent I had ever seen from slightly underrated to completely overrated by Internet fans.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:00 PM
So what's up with this Jordan Poyer CB guy? I notice he was rated as a 2nd round pick. He's still available.

I wonder if that bar fight he got arrested for is driving him down.

Fyler
04-27-2013, 02:00 PM
I WANT RODGERS or SWOPEEEEE

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:01 PM
I WANT RODGERS or SWOPEEEEE

I would not be upset by that.

Rey
04-27-2013, 02:01 PM
Darick is still there?

I'd still pick him up. Been saying that since the second round...

beerlover
04-27-2013, 02:03 PM
Riddick would be a great fit here, but yes Poyer is BPA

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:05 PM
I wonder if that bar fight he got arrested for is driving him down.

Ah, that was him. I read that but forgot which player it was. The site I'm at has about another four or five players that were rated 2nd round picks still available.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:05 PM
Riddick would be a great fit here, but yes Poyer is BPA

Not Zac Dysert?

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 02:05 PM
I'd like Dysert

drs23
04-27-2013, 02:06 PM
I WANT RODGERS or SWOPEEEEE

I would not be upset by that.

Darick is still there?

I'd still pick him up. Been saying that since the second round...

I've been pondering that for a while. I wonder if the braintrust is thinking "if he falls to the 5th, what have we got to lose?" kinda thing. I wouldn't mind seeing it at all and it would certainly make the "choirboy" thread!

mariowillshine15
04-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Not Zac Dysert?

I would prefer Tyler Bray. Rocket Launcher arm.

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Chase Thomas is still on the board and only one pick ahead of us now.

Fili
04-27-2013, 02:07 PM
Yeah I think we should get another receiver. Or a defensive back.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:07 PM
Lot of good options available...

Dysert
Rogers
Poyer
Swope
Grissom...

Ellington?

Mailman
04-27-2013, 02:08 PM
Thomas is exactly the kind of pick I expect they'd make.

Wolf
04-27-2013, 02:08 PM
Here we go

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 02:08 PM
Chase Thomas is still on the board and only one pick ahead of us now.

Kevin Reddick, too.

bobbeaux
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
still holding out hope for ilb's mauti or reddick in the 5th . . . ;)

i wouldn't mind nt's grissom or boyd either for rotation though . . . ;)

drs23
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Texans on the clock. Who will it be? Rodgers? Chase Thomas?

Wolf
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
We traded

beerlover
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Texans select to trade down

b0ng
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Hmmmm, wonder who the Texans BPA here is.

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
We're up!

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Trade!

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
We traded out?

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Trade!

drs23
04-27-2013, 02:11 PM
Damn, a trade with Fisher!

Doppelganger
04-27-2013, 02:11 PM
What did Texans get?

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:11 PM
what's the trade??????

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:11 PM
Any idea what we got?

drs23
04-27-2013, 02:12 PM
:popcorn:

hot pickle
04-27-2013, 02:12 PM
sounded like we got another 6th, maybe another 7th

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
We've got the 184th pick now.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
Texans trade No. 160 pick to the Rams for picks No. 184 and No. 198.

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
Bummer, I wanted Stacy

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
Are we outa the 5th altogether now???

honored82
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
Rams had Round 6 16th pick (184) and another 6th round 30 (198).
I guess we get their both picks for our 160th pick

SO now we have picks 184 , 195, 198, 201.
4 picks in quick succession

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
The rams didn't have a seventh, we got a 6th and what else?

drs23
04-27-2013, 02:13 PM
#184 & #198 in the 6th.

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:14 PM
We've got 4 6th round picks now.

Stemp
04-27-2013, 02:14 PM
2 6th rounders it looks like
We have 4 picks in the 6th now.

bobbeaux
04-27-2013, 02:14 PM
sounded like we got another 6th, maybe another 7th

1st pick in the 6th is now 16th

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 02:14 PM
We got 2 6th round picks. We have 3 picks in the 6th now

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 02:14 PM
Texans trade No. 160 pick to the Rams for picks No. 184 and No. 198.
So we have 16th, 27th, 30th, 33rd picks in Rd. 6

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
We've got 4 6th round picks now.

Forgot about the compensatory one

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
Rams had Round 6 16th pick (184) and another 6th round 30 (198).
I guess we get their both picks for our 160th pick

if that's true, we have four picks in the 6th round. But really, the 6th round? That's total left over time there.

Texn4life
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
I love it...... with 4 picks to go we can take a flyer on some guys and hope they pan out.

Edit: I guess that would be 5 picks.

rmartin65
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
Texans trade No. 160 pick to the Rams for picks No. 184 and No. 198.

We have 4 sixths, wow.

darrinlane
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
We have 4 6th round picks?

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
So we have 16th, 27th, 30th picks in Rd. 6

Plus the 33rd.

Mailman
04-27-2013, 02:15 PM
Are we outa the 5th altogether now???

indeed

TexansSeminole
04-27-2013, 02:16 PM
We've got 4 6th round picks now.

Yea. We have 184, 195, 198, 201, and the seventh rounder 233 left.

We got 184 and 198 for 160 with that trade.

hot pickle
04-27-2013, 02:16 PM
We got 2 6th round picks. We have 3 picks in the 6th now

we got a comp pick in the 6th too so we got 4

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:16 PM
if that's true, we have four picks in the 6th round. But really, the 6th round? That's total left over time there.

Da'Rick Rogers? Swope? Grissom?

We could get some quality guys back here.

WolverineFan
04-27-2013, 02:17 PM
4 6-rd picks now? I can live with that.

srrono
04-27-2013, 02:17 PM
Texans trade No. 160 pick to the Rams for picks No. 184 and No. 198.

I dont get it we trade out for picks that will not make the team

Brandon420tx
04-27-2013, 02:17 PM
we got a comp pick in the 6th too so we got 4

Mentioned 8 posts above yours I forgot about the comp

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2013, 02:17 PM
I dont get it we trade out for picks that will not make the team

That's a huge assumption.

Rey
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
if that's true, we have four picks in the 6th round. But really, the 6th round? That's total left over time there.

There's still some good talent out there thorn. I like this move...

We can still grab a receiver that can come in and contribute...

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
Hell, our first pick in the 6th round is halfway down. We're in in the dredges now. LOL

bobbeaux
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
if that's true, we have four picks in the 6th round. But really, the 6th round? That's total left over time there.

lots of depth available this year . . . just look at the wish lists still coming on this board . . . ;)

LikeMike
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
if that's true, we have four picks in the 6th round. But really, the 6th round? That's total left over time there.

As opposed to round 5? Really, this late in the draft it is a bit of a lottery. We have several holes still left, and several interesting prospects left. I like to have one more shot now.

pirbroke
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
I thought our roster was getting fairly set and the lower round players would have trouble making the team this year, and we trade down and pick up more of them. I guess we may have one of the best practice squads out there this year.

Thorn
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
There's still some good talent out there thorn. I like this move...

We can still grab a receiver that can come in and contribute...

Yeah, I know. But there was still some good value players left in the 5th I would have liked.

Playoffs
04-27-2013, 02:19 PM
I smell another trade???