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badboy
04-06-2013, 11:49 PM
About this time of year, I try to identify positions and players to watch in the next college season that Houston could be interested in for the following draft. I feel comfortable that regardless of the round in this month's draft a WR, OLB, ILB and RT will be selected. I wished I could be as certain about the Nose but until this one is over who knows? Following are players I will focus on and where I have them rated. Of course our draft will probably change focus.

1. OG/OT Cyril Richardson 6'5" 335 Baylor pure LG that would allow Kubiak to allow Brooks to remain at RG where I have him starting in 2013. Richardson blocked for RG3 in 2011 as LT before moving to LG 2012. If Ben Jones can move to center, we should have a young dominating line lead by D. Brown.

2. OLB Morgan Breslin 6'2" 250 USC I mocked him for '13 before he returned. In 2012 he had 12 sacks. He might be a first rounder. 2014 is Reeds last year and he needs a great '13 to come back.

3. QB David Fales 6'3" 220 San Jose St. 4,196 yards 4,193 yds 9.3 avg 33 TDs 9 INTs but 26 sacks; behind our Oline he should remain on his feet. Decent arm but can get stronger. New coach could disprove claim he is system QB. Excellent review: http://www.pigskinheaven.com/content.php/1053-West-Coast-QB-Bias-David-Fales

4. ILB Andrew Jackson 6'2" 262 Western Kentucky tackling machine who returned to have his rank improve. Poor decision. Tackling machine.

5. RT Rob Crisp 6'7" 312 NC State has allowed only 1 sack in 2011 and 12. May be way undervalued here.

mussop
04-07-2013, 01:20 AM
About this time of year, I try to identify positions and players to watch in the next college season that Houston could be interested in for the following draft. I feel comfortable that regardless of the round in this month's draft a WR, OLB, ILB and RT will be selected. I wished I could be as certain about the Nose but until this one is over who knows? Following are players I will focus on and where I have them rated. Of course our draft will probably change focus.

1. OG/OT Cyril Richardson 6'5" 335 Baylor pure LG that would allow Kubiak to allow Brooks to remain at RG where I have him starting in 2013. Richardson blocked for RG3 in 2011 as LT before moving to LG 2012. If Ben Jones can move to center, we should have a young dominating line lead by D. Brown.

2. OLB Morgan Breslin 6'2" 250 USC I mocked him for '13 before he returned. In 2012 he had 12 sacks. He might be a first rounder. 2014 is Reeds last year and he needs a great '13 to come back.

3. QB David Fales 6'3" 220 USC 4,196 yards 4,193 yds 9.3 avg 33 TDs 9 INTs but 26 sacks; behind our Oline he should remain on his feet. Decent arm but can get stronger. New coach could disprove claim he is system QB. Excellent review: http://www.pigskinheaven.com/content.php/1053-West-Coast-QB-Bias-David-Fales

4. ILB Andrew Jackson 6'2" 262 Western Kentucky tackling machine who returned to have his rank improve. Poor decision. Tackling machine.

5. RT Rob Crisp 6'7" 312 NC State has allowed only 1 sack in 2011 and 12. May be way undervalued here.

I love Richardson. No way he'll be available for us unless we really stink it up this year or he regresses. He would of probably been gone by the time we pick this year had he come out.

coon
04-07-2013, 03:35 AM
A.J. McCarron. The kid could be the Qb to oust Schaub if we can get our hands on him.

Wolf6151
04-07-2013, 05:17 AM
Players I like and want to keep an eye on:

Gabe Jackson-OG Mississippi St.
C.J. Fiedorowicz-TE Iowa
Jake Matthews-OT Texas A&M

Lucky
04-07-2013, 10:53 AM
3. QB David Fales 6'3" 220 USC 4,196 yards 4,193 yds 9.3 avg 33 TDs 9 INTs but 26 sacks; behind our Oline he should remain on his feet. Decent arm but can get stronger. New coach could disprove claim he is system QB. Excellent review: http://www.pigskinheaven.com/content.php/1053-West-Coast-QB-Bias-David-Fales
You have a typo, Fales is at San Jose State.

TexansSeminole
04-07-2013, 11:32 AM
We should move this to the College Football section

Seminoles to look for:

The Noles new DC is the old Alabama secondary coach and the team will run a 3-4 defense.

ILB Christian Jones

6' 4" 232 (likely will be bigger in 2013), long, athletic senior that would test well at the combine. Will play ILB in a 3-4 in 2013. He has all the tools to be a top 3 ILB linebacker come draft time. Solid in coverage over the middle and down the field, makes plays behind the line of scrimmage. This is a guy that the Texans should be looking at. Jones Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42tPU2PerxU). Jones is going to be a highly rated prospect.

S/CB Lamarcus Joyner

At 5' 8" 195, he plays very aggressively and reminds me of Ed Reed or Polamalu, believe it or not. Joyner played corner as a true freshman and played very well. He moved to safety where he played the past two seasons. He is moving back to corner for his senior season. He is very good with the ball in his hands and also is a kick returner. He may be better suited for that centerfield safety type role in the NFL, as he can cover alot of ground and make plays along the sideline, ala Polamalu. Joyner is a big hitter and does a good job of separating the receiver from the ball. Joyner Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS5CDetrcQQ)

S Terrence Brooks

5' 11" 197. Improved as a starter for his first year as a junior. Will start again at safety in 2013. Could be a mid-round selection, depending on the year he has.

DT Timmy Jernigan

6'1 " 297. Penetrator. Only a junior, but could be one of the most productive interior linemen in the country in 2013. Jernigan Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks2gVG-suGA)

RB James Wilder

6' 2" 225. Star in the making. Only a junior, but he is a physical freak that could come out if he has a big season. All signs point to a shared backfield, so I doubt he makes a big enough splash to come out early. Wilder Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhctoSPJsf0)

WR Rashad Greene

6' 175. Very elusive and quick junior. Could be a top 5 receiver by year end. Greene Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_7YcaWKlOw)

Mute all those videos, horribly annoying music.



Other players around the ACC:

Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

Will likely be the #1 receiver in the draft next year. Think DeAndre Hopkins but faster, stronger, more sudden in his cuts, with better hands. Takes over big games.

Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

I have him as my #1 QB. Great feel for the game.

Jeremiah Attaochu, LB, Georgia Tech

Should be one of the top pass rushers in the ACC in 2013.

James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech

Another pass rusher. This guy needs a big year to improve his stock.

Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech

5 INTs last year on a top ranked pass defense. Led the ACC with 21 passes defensed. He had an offseason injury, but should still play 80%+ of the 2013 season.

Bryn Renner, QB, North Carolina

54 TDs to 20 INTs over the past two seasons. 3,000+ passing yards each year with a completion percentage above 66% during that time as well.

greekdbag
04-07-2013, 09:10 PM
We should move this to the College Football section

Seminoles to look for:

The Noles new DC is the old Alabama secondary coach and the team will run a 3-4 defense.

ILB Christian Jones

6' 4" 232 (likely will be bigger in 2013), long, athletic senior that would test well at the combine. Will play ILB in a 3-4 in 2013. He has all the tools to be a top 3 ILB linebacker come draft time. Solid in coverage over the middle and down the field, makes plays behind the line of scrimmage. This is a guy that the Texans should be looking at. Jones Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42tPU2PerxU). Jones is going to be a highly rated prospect.

S/CB Lamarcus Joyner

At 5' 8" 195, he plays very aggressively and reminds me of Ed Reed or Polamalu, believe it or not. Joyner played corner as a true freshman and played very well. He moved to safety where he played the past two seasons. He is moving back to corner for his senior season. He is very good with the ball in his hands and also is a kick returner. He may be better suited for that centerfield safety type role in the NFL, as he can cover alot of ground and make plays along the sideline, ala Polamalu. Joyner is a big hitter and does a good job of separating the receiver from the ball. Joyner Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS5CDetrcQQ)

S Terrence Brooks

5' 11" 197. Improved as a starter for his first year as a junior. Will start again at safety in 2013. Could be a mid-round selection, depending on the year he has.

DT Timmy Jernigan

6'1 " 297. Penetrator. Only a junior, but could be one of the most productive interior linemen in the country in 2013. Jernigan Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks2gVG-suGA)

RB James Wilder

6' 2" 225. Star in the making. Only a junior, but he is a physical freak that could come out if he has a big season. All signs point to a shared backfield, so I doubt he makes a big enough splash to come out early. Wilder Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhctoSPJsf0)

WR Rashad Greene

6' 175. Very elusive and quick junior. Could be a top 5 receiver by year end. Greene Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_7YcaWKlOw)

Mute all those videos, horribly annoying music.



Other players around the ACC:

Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

Will likely be the #1 receiver in the draft next year. Think DeAndre Hopkins but faster, stronger, more sudden in his cuts, with better hands. Takes over big games.

Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

I have him as my #1 QB. Great feel for the game.

Jeremiah Attaochu, LB, Georgia Tech

Should be one of the top pass rushers in the ACC in 2013.

James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech

Another pass rusher. This guy needs a big year to improve his stock.

Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech

5 INTs last year on a top ranked pass defense. Led the ACC with 21 passes defensed. He had an offseason injury, but should still play 80%+ of the 2013 season.

Bryn Renner, QB, North Carolina

54 TDs to 20 INTs over the past two seasons. 3,000+ passing yards each year with a completion percentage above 66% during that time as well.

Repped. Joyner was a five star right? He has always stuck out to me when watching FSU.

TexansSeminole
04-07-2013, 09:22 PM
Repped. Joyner was a five star right? He has always stuck out to me when watching FSU.

Yea, he was the #1 rated corner by most folks coming out of high school. Jones and Jernigan were also five stars. Wilder was also a five star according to some.

badboy
04-07-2013, 09:24 PM
A.J. McCarron. The kid could be the Qb to oust Schaub if we can get our hands on him.He is currently ranked #1 QB with championship and will probably go top ten.

badboy
04-07-2013, 09:26 PM
Players I like and want to keep an eye on:

Gabe Jackson-OG Mississippi St.
C.J. Fiedorowicz-TE Iowa
Jake Matthews-OT Texas A&MGood choices but Matthews could be #1 pick like his former teammate is projected this month.

badboy
04-07-2013, 09:27 PM
You have a typo, Fales is at San Jose State.Of course, thanks for heads up!

aussie_texan
04-08-2013, 10:52 PM
at this stage of the 2014 draft i will always look at the more "sexy" positions namely QB, WR. but seen as more than likely we will be taking a WR early this year ill be looking at the following QBs:
Logan Thomas
Teddy Bridgewater
Aaron Murray *
Tajh Boyd
Johnny Manziel *
Bryn Renner *

The 3 thats i have * i will be looking with much more intent, these guys i like the most

until the mid way through the season then ill start looking at O-line, D-line, etc

76Texan
04-09-2013, 10:45 PM
Nick Montana, Tulane; he's only a Jr but looks like a winner.
Guess who he is and what position he plays.

76Texan
04-09-2013, 10:49 PM
Brandon Coleman (Rutgers); see if he can blossom into Megatron 2.0

Marquise Lee (USC), together with Watkins, and Coleman; this is the trio of WRs that may form the best WR class since quite awhile.

76Texan
04-09-2013, 11:28 PM
Clowney, S. Carolina
Thomas, Oregon

76Texan
04-12-2013, 06:27 PM
Clemson's receiving corp remains deep.
A Jr might break out along side with Watkins.
His name is Charone Peake and he was a five star recruit.
He has a complete package, just need fine tuning.

76Texan
04-12-2013, 06:39 PM
Another program with great depth at receiver is Florida St.
I'm looking for Kelvin Benjamin to have a great year.
Another big tall and fast Underclassman (Rs Sophomore) that might declare early.
Just the sight of him coming at you can break down a lot of DBs.

Rey
04-12-2013, 07:15 PM
A.J. McCarron. The kid could be the Qb to oust Schaub if we can get our hands on him.

I wonder how his stock is going to change if they have another great year and he plays well.

You know he's going to get picked apart this coming season...

76Texan
04-12-2013, 07:30 PM
I wonder how his stock is going to change if they have another great year and he plays well.

You know he's going to get picked apart this coming season...

His arm strength is going to be under heavy scrutiny, that's for sure.
He needs to work on that.

76Texan
04-13-2013, 12:15 PM
Clowney, S. Carolina
Thomas, Oregon

Jadeveon Clowney. Yeah, that guy is going to be a beast!
Wait, he's already a beast. I would draft him today and not even wait until next year.

TexansSeminole
04-13-2013, 09:04 PM
Another program with great depth at receiver is Florida St.
I'm looking for Kelvin Benjamin to have a great year.
Another big tall and fast Underclassman (Rs Sophomore) that might declare early.
Just the sight of him coming at you can break down a lot of DBs.

Benjamin would have to have a monster year to come out, which is doubtful. We rotate our receivers pretty heavily and it's difficult for one guy to have a huge season in this offense. However, Benjamin looked pretty dominant in the spring game today. Look out for Kenny Shaw though. He isn't the biggest or fastest guy but is awfully quick and a nice route runner. He's a 6' 170 pound senior who projects to slot receiver.

76Texan
04-13-2013, 10:12 PM
Benjamin would have to have a monster year to come out, which is doubtful. We rotate our receivers pretty heavily and it's difficult for one guy to have a huge season in this offense. However, Benjamin looked pretty dominant in the spring game today. Look out for Kenny Shaw though. He isn't the biggest or fastest guy but is awfully quick and a nice route runner. He's a 6' 170 pound senior who projects to slot receiver.

That pipeline is still flowing. I would think Rashad Greene to be the go to guy when the new QB needs a target.

mussop
04-18-2013, 08:07 AM
About this time of year, I try to identify positions and players to watch in the next college season that Houston could be interested in for the following draft. I feel comfortable that regardless of the round in this month's draft a WR, OLB, ILB and RT will be selected. I wished I could be as certain about the Nose but until this one is over who knows? Following are players I will focus on and where I have them rated. Of course our draft will probably change focus.

1. OG/OT Cyril Richardson 6'5" 335 Baylor pure LG that would allow Kubiak to allow Brooks to remain at RG where I have him starting in 2013. Richardson blocked for RG3 in 2011 as LT before moving to LG 2012. If Ben Jones can move to center, we should have a young dominating line lead by D. Brown.

2. OLB Morgan Breslin 6'2" 250 USC I mocked him for '13 before he returned. In 2012 he had 12 sacks. He might be a first rounder. 2014 is Reeds last year and he needs a great '13 to come back.

3. QB David Fales 6'3" 220 San Jose St. 4,196 yards 4,193 yds 9.3 avg 33 TDs 9 INTs but 26 sacks; behind our Oline he should remain on his feet. Decent arm but can get stronger. New coach could disprove claim he is system QB. Excellent review: http://www.pigskinheaven.com/content.php/1053-West-Coast-QB-Bias-David-Fales

4. ILB Andrew Jackson 6'2" 262 Western Kentucky tackling machine who returned to have his rank improve. Poor decision. Tackling machine.

5. RT Rob Crisp 6'7" 312 NC State has allowed only 1 sack in 2011 and 12. May be way undervalued here.

I like this Fales guy!

badboy
04-19-2013, 04:29 PM
I like this Fales guy!Shh! Hope he drops to us in second. I hope to find games to watch this season.

badboy
04-27-2013, 11:51 PM
About this time of year, I try to identify positions and players to watch in the next college season that Houston could be interested in for the following draft. I feel comfortable that regardless of the round in this month's draft a WR, OLB, ILB and RT will be selected. I wished I could be as certain about the Nose but until this one is over who knows? Following are players I will focus on and where I have them rated. Of course our draft will probably change focus.

1. OG/OT Cyril Richardson 6'5" 335 Baylor pure LG that would allow Kubiak to allow Brooks to remain at RG where I have him starting in 2013. Richardson blocked for RG3 in 2011 as LT before moving to LG 2012. If Ben Jones can move to center, we should have a young dominating line lead by D. Brown.

2. OLB Morgan Breslin 6'2" 250 USC I mocked him for '13 before he returned. In 2012 he had 12 sacks. He might be a first rounder. 2014 is Reeds last year and he needs a great '13 to come back.

3. QB David Fales 6'3" 220 San Jose St. 4,193 yds 9.3 avg 33 TDs 9 INTs but 26 sacks; behind our Oline he should remain on his feet. Decent arm but can get stronger. New coach could disprove claim he is system QB. Excellent review: http://www.pigskinheaven.com/content.php/1053-West-Coast-QB-Bias-David-Fales

4. ILB Andrew Jackson 6'2" 262 Western Kentucky tackling machine who returned to have his rank improve. Poor decision. Tackling machine.

5. RT Rob Crisp 6'7" 312 NC State has allowed only 1 sack in 2011 and 12. May be way undervalued here.
2013 draft over and our picks do effect my thoughts. We did get my guy Brennan Williams so that moves OT off my '14 mock. Also David Quissenberry could eventually resolve OG for me. He blocked for my QB David Fales who had monster 2012 and he did so at the LT so with a year in Texans strength program, should replace Cody White.


New mock:

1. NT Louis Nix Notre Dame

2. ILB Andrew Jackson Western Kentucky may go later but not taking chance after not drafting one in 2013.

3 QB Fales San Jose St but if another year like 2012, may have to move him up.

I will continue to evaluate WRs because I'm not convinced Jean, Martin or Bonner will be 2014 and we may still need a replacement for AJ eventually. If Posey or Hopkins can prove to be WR 1 material during this season, I'd still probably select WR later rounds to go with these three.

OLB/DE will also be on my radar. Trevardo could be a hit (pun intended) but not 100% sold on Montgomery or Mercilus for that matter. Brooks Reed needs to have a real good year at either OLB or ILB or I cut him after '13.

CB we need to have someone step up this season either Harris or Carmichael so I will evaluate this position also.

Your thoughts or suggestions?

SAMURAITEXAN
04-28-2013, 04:57 AM
About this time of year, I try to identify positions and players to watch in the next college season that Houston could be interested in for the following draft. I feel comfortable that regardless of the round in this month's draft a WR, OLB, ILB and RT will be selected. I wished I could be as certain about the Nose but until this one is over who knows? Following are players I will focus on and where I have them rated. Of course our draft will probably change focus.

1. OG/OT Cyril Richardson 6'5" 335 Baylor pure LG that would allow Kubiak to allow Brooks to remain at RG where I have him starting in 2013. Richardson blocked for RG3 in 2011 as LT before moving to LG 2012. If Ben Jones can move to center, we should have a young dominating line lead by D. Brown.

2. OLB Morgan Breslin 6'2" 250 USC I mocked him for '13 before he returned. In 2012 he had 12 sacks. He might be a first rounder. 2014 is Reeds last year and he needs a great '13 to come back.

3. QB David Fales 6'3" 220 San Jose St. 4,196 yards 4,193 yds 9.3 avg 33 TDs 9 INTs but 26 sacks; behind our Oline he should remain on his feet. Decent arm but can get stronger. New coach could disprove claim he is system QB. Excellent review: http://www.pigskinheaven.com/content.php/1053-West-Coast-QB-Bias-David-Fales

4. ILB Andrew Jackson 6'2" 262 Western Kentucky tackling machine who returned to have his rank improve. Poor decision. Tackling machine.

5. RT Rob Crisp 6'7" 312 NC State has allowed only 1 sack in 2011 and 12. May be way undervalued here.
Would Richardson or Nix be available at 32nd pick in the 1st rd?:trophy:

mussop
04-29-2013, 08:35 AM
2013 draft over and our picks do effect my thoughts. We did get my guy Brennan Williams so that moves OT off my '14 mock. Also David Quissenberry could eventually resolve OG for me. He blocked for my QB David Fales who had monster 2012 and he did so at the LT so with a year in Texans strength program, should replace Cody White.


New mock:

1. NT Louis Nix Notre Dame

2. ILB Andrew Jackson Western Kentucky may go later but not taking chance after not drafting one in 2013.

3 QB Fales San Jose St but if another year like 2012, may have to move him up.

I will continue to evaluate WRs because I'm not convinced Jean, Martin or Bonner will be 2014 and we may still need a replacement for AJ eventually. If Posey or Hopkins can prove to be WR 1 material during this season, I'd still probably select WR later rounds to go with these three.

OLB/DE will also be on my radar. Trevardo could be a hit (pun intended) but not 100% sold on Montgomery or Mercilus for that matter. Brooks Reed needs to have a real good year at either OLB or ILB or I cut him after '13.

CB we need to have someone step up this season either Harris or Carmichael so I will evaluate this position also.

Your thoughts or suggestions?

Nix is my number one also.

TEXANRED
04-30-2013, 09:54 AM
How funny would it be if we drafted Derek Carr as Schaub's replacement?

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 02:23 PM
How funny would it be if we drafted Derek Carr as Schaub's replacement?

:|

Not laughing.

:kubepalm:

TEXANRED
04-30-2013, 02:34 PM
:|

Not laughing.

:kubepalm:

Not even a little?

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2013, 02:40 PM
Not even a little?

No.

Lucky
05-05-2013, 11:50 AM
How funny would it be if we drafted Derek Carr as Schaub's replacement?

:|

Not laughing.

:kubepalm:
Hey, he put up better numbers as a junior than his big brother. Just saying.

Corrosion
05-05-2013, 12:19 PM
Hey, he put up better numbers as a junior than his big brother. Just saying.

HWWNBM broke a record in the NFL .... for getting sacked :smiliepalm:

Honoring Earl 34
05-05-2013, 12:24 PM
Hey, he put up better numbers as a junior than his big brother. Just saying.

HWWNBM broke a record in the NFL .... for getting sacked :smiliepalm:

I'm thinking Derek is the B side of HWWNBM . We don't need another pretty boy who was breast fed until he was 6 .

Lucky
05-05-2013, 12:30 PM
I'm thinking Derek is the B side of HWWNBM .
I'm thinking he shouldn't be judged for the "sins" of his brother. Derek's pros and cons should be based on his own merits or lack thereof.

TexansSeminole
05-05-2013, 12:33 PM
I'm thinking he shouldn't be judged for the "sins" of his brother. Derek's pros and cons should be based on his own merits or lack thereof.

I've seen him play only one time. He looked alot like his brother to me, but it may just have been a bad game for him. I think it was their bowl game.

Lucky
05-05-2013, 01:20 PM
I've seen him play only one time. He looked alot like his brother to me, but it may just have been a bad game for him. I think it was their bowl game.
I saw him in 2 games where his team was overmatched (Oregon & Boise State). Cons are that he has some of the same sidearm delivery issues his older brother had. And is more careless with the ball. On the pro side, Derek keeps his eyes downfield longer and has much better touch. He throws some of the better lob passes in college football. Not the caliber of prospect his brother was out of college, Derek is not going to be a top 10 pick. But, the Texans aren't likely to be selecting in the top 10, either. If he improves on his ball security, Carr will probably go in the 2nd-3rd round area along with McCarron and Murray. And he's a better athlete than either of them.

Honoring Earl 34
05-05-2013, 01:41 PM
I saw him in 2 games where his team was overmatched (Oregon & Boise State). Cons are that he has some of the same sidearm delivery issues his older brother had. And is more careless with the ball. On the pro side, Derek keeps his eyes downfield longer and has much better touch. He throws some of the better lob passes in college football. Not the caliber of prospect his brother was out of college, Derek is not going to be a top 10 pick. But, the Texans aren't likely to be selecting in the top 10, either. If he improves on his ball security, Carr will probably go in the 2nd-3rd round area along with McCarron and Murray. And he's a better athlete than either of them.

I think he's been babied just like his brother . They were a highly naive bunch who thought they hung they moon . Shoot Derek , like his brother , is already married .

Lucky
05-05-2013, 01:51 PM
Shoot Derek , like his brother , is already married .
Are there any other data points that show marriage is bad for a QB?

The Mannings have thought they hung the moon. Of course they were right in thinking so. Basically, it still boils down to whether you can play or not.

infantrycak
05-05-2013, 02:07 PM
I saw him in 2 games where his team was overmatched (Oregon & Boise State). Cons are that he has some of the same sidearm delivery issues his older brother had. And is more careless with the ball. On the pro side, Derek keeps his eyes downfield longer and has much better touch. He throws some of the better lob passes in college football. Not the caliber of prospect his brother was out of college, Derek is not going to be a top 10 pick. But, the Texans aren't likely to be selecting in the top 10, either. If he improves on his ball security, Carr will probably go in the 2nd-3rd round area along with McCarron and Murray. And he's a better athlete than either of them.

Correct me if I am wrong but David wasn't expected to be a 1st round pick after his junior year was he? - really pretty much blew up his senior season.

More specifically, what do you mean by more careless?

Does he see the middle of the field? - David sucked at that.

Honoring Earl 34
05-05-2013, 02:19 PM
Are there any other data points that show marriage is bad for a QB?

The Mannings have thought they hung the moon. Of course they were right in thinking so. Basically, it still boils down to whether you can play or not.

Name another QB besides his brother who was married by his junior year in college . I think if you draft him , pa and the gang will probably want to go to practice with him so he can get there late and leave early .

This excludes Aikman of course cause that kind of marriage wasn't legal then .

I found one guy and that was Phillip Rivers .

Lucky
05-05-2013, 03:32 PM
Name another QB besides his brother who was married by his junior year in college .
Probably a lot of BYU QBs. So what? I still don't get your point. There were probably a lot of players that got drafted last week that had children but weren't married. That alone doesn't make them good or bad players. You're off on a weird tangent here.

Lucky
05-05-2013, 03:44 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but David wasn't expected to be a 1st round pick after his junior year was he? - really pretty much blew up his senior season.

More specifically, what do you mean by more careless?

Does he see the middle of the field? - David sucked at that.
That's correct, David Carr had some big games in his senior year where Fresno upset some top 20 teams and moved him up the draft board. Don't know if Derek can get that kind of push in 2013, as Fresno has a pretty soft schedule outside of Boise State.

By more careless, I mean Derek tries to do do much and extend a play that's not there. Which can cause a sack or a strip. Or just throw into coverage and locking onto a receiver. The middle of the field is neither's strength. But if you look at most college offenses, they are centered around the edges of the field.

Honoring Earl 34
05-05-2013, 04:16 PM
Probably a lot of BYU QBs. So what? I still don't get your point. There were probably a lot of players that got drafted last week that had children but weren't married. That alone doesn't make them good or bad players. You're off on a weird tangent here.

You can't serve two masters and to be a good NFL QB , you have to be the first one there and the last to leave . Most guys try to get established in the league first or they are the Joe Namath / Tom Brady type which plays well in the locker room .

nero THE zero
05-06-2013, 09:41 AM
Brooks Reed needs to have a real good year at either OLB or ILB or I cut him after '13.

WTF.

badboy
05-06-2013, 03:01 PM
WTF.I think Reed is at best an average OLB that can be replaced. His stats (not everything but a measurable) dropped drastically missing 4 games in 2012 and he was averaging many less tackles than 2012. Off year? 2013 will tell.

badboy
05-06-2013, 03:05 PM
Would Richardson or Nix be available at 32nd pick in the 1st rd?:trophy:Watching NT Jesse Williams and the QBs drop this draft guarantees that nothing can be gauranteed. Nix had a pretty good 2012 and was not even mentioned on some mocks. Last I looked he was not on NFLdraftscout.com for 2014. I want to mock him as a second round but another good year would be hard to keep him out of first and maybe out of our reach.

htownfan32
05-06-2013, 11:58 PM
Watching NT Jesse Williams and the QBs drop this draft guarantees that nothing can be gauranteed. Nix had a pretty good 2012 and was not even mentioned on some mocks. Last I looked he was not on NFLdraftscout.com for 2014. I want to mock him as a second round but another good year would be hard to keep him out of first and maybe out of our reach.

IMO Nix's stock took a hit with the performance of ND in the Nat'l game. He is the ND NT if I am not mistaken right?

badboy
05-07-2013, 12:03 AM
IMO Nix's stock took a hit with the performance of ND in the Nat'l game. He is the ND NT if I am not mistaken right?

Right guy but he was never on draftscout and did not show on Walter until late. That puzzles me. I really like the kid.

rmartin65
05-07-2013, 07:38 AM
bb- nfldraftscout does things by year. All the Seniors are ranked together, the Juniors are ranked together, and the Sophs are ranked together. Only when they declare for the draft are they put on one list.

TexansSeminole
05-10-2013, 08:40 AM
1. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina, Jr.: The ultimate game-changer on defense, Clowney would have been a first-rounder had he been draft-eligible after his freshman season. Clowney then excelled in 2012, elevating his status as the 2014 No. 1 favorite.

2: Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama, Jr.: A potential top-five pick in next year's draft, the 6-foot-6, 310-pound Kouandjio is everything you're looking for in a left tackle.

3. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M, Sr.: We know Matthews has the bloodlines, but he also has the game. He's shifting over from right tackle to left tackle for his senior season.

6. Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida, Jr.: He's a pure cover cornerback with good size and an explosive athlete to boot. The Gators also will play him at receiver next season.

7. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M, RSo.: Yes, Manziel is shorter than the NFL typically likes its quarterbacks, but do measurables really matter when you make as many plays as Johnny Football does?

8. Dominique Easley, DT, Florida, Sr.: Easley is fully recovered from the torn ACL he suffered at the end of the 2011 season. He's sliding inside to tackle next season and will be a force for the Gators.

10. C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama, Sr.: As the saying goes, he's a football player. Mosley is a sure tackler. He's excellent in coverage and is always money whenever Alabama needs a big play.

11. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama, Jr.: In the past four drafts, Alabama has produced four first-round selections in the secondary. Clinton-Dix could be the top safety off the board next year.

12. Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M, RSo.: In his first season in the SEC, the 6-5, 225-pound Evans was sensational with 82 catches and 1,105 yards. He'll be even better his second time through.

13. AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama, Sr.: Sure, he's been surrounded by great talent, but McCarron also has an NFL arm, delivers in the clutch and takes care of the football.

15. Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss, Jr.: One of the more underrated players in the SEC, the 6-3, 215-pound Moncrief has a knack for finding the end zone with 14 touchdowns in his first two seasons.

20: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia, Sr.: The opinions are mixed on Murray, who's bearing down on several SEC records. His numbers speak for themselves, and so does the way he approaches the game.

Link (http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=sec&id=64023&src=desktop)

There are 20 names on that list, I only included the guys that I have noticed while watching games. Easley and Purifoy are both really good players. Clinton-Dix and Mosley are too. It should be interesting to see what happens with Aaron Murray throughout the season and draft process.

badboy
05-10-2013, 10:39 AM
I just don't see Manziel coming out especially next year which is deeper in QBs. I think the college life will attract him another year minimum but hope he comes out as that would push my guy (Fales) down to us in second.

76Texan
05-10-2013, 02:26 PM
Ha'Shean is a baller.
Clowney is a terror.

I was on Murray since his Sophomore year.
Dude knows how to play QB.

76Texan
05-10-2013, 02:39 PM
Watch out for the receiver from Vandy.
Jordan Matthews is Jerry Rice's cousin.

He's not really athletic, but he just makes play.

It looks like some of these receivers lack the elite speed, but they are good receivers.

One of them is Hoffman from BYU who has the size and the smoothness.

Another is Devin Street (Pittsburgh) who is simply a natural receiver.
He has good football IQ and is a fierce blocker.
The Texans can do well with him if Posey doesn't make it back.

Norwood (Alabama) showed some flashes.
I'd like to see if be takes the next step.
Or will he continue to be overshadowed by Amari Cooper?
This guy looks really good as a freshman.
Will he come out as a sophomore with a big year?

TexansSeminole
05-12-2013, 09:54 AM
What's the rule on posting ESPN Insider information? I'll just post part of it and we will find out.

Mel Kiper's first Big Board



2 Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

He's not a finished product, but that's what should excite evaluators about Bridgewater. Bridgewater never looks overwhelmed, and comfortably works his eyes across the field. When he sees a target -- or more likely, a receiver who will come open -- he has a quick release, plenty of arm strength and good ball placement. He has a chance to have a huge year.

3 Marqise Lee, WR, USC

That USC had several good weapons in the passing game last season didn't stop defenses from paying extra attention to Lee, but it didn't matter. He has the ability to separate with speed and as an effective route-runner. He's dropped a few easy ones, but makes most routine catches and can play bigger than his size. Dangerous after the catch. He's also physical and could've been a top safety if he'd chosen that direction.

4 Cyrus Kouandjio, LT, Alabama

A natural pass-protector with quick feet, long arms and the ability to sit down and absorb rushers, Kouandjio held down the left side of a dominant Alabama offensive line in 2012. He's only going to get stronger, which makes his future exceedingly bright. Could be drafted before he turns 21.

7 Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame

One of those players with the rare size and skills to handle a zero-technique role, Nix can keep multiple blockers occupied and make life easy for linebackers cleaning up against the run. Well-liked and reliable, he should be the anchor of what will be the strength of the 2013 Irish squad.

10 Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida

An exceptional athlete, Purifoy also provides value as a returner. He has the ball skills of a wide receiver and could also see time there in 2013. Can get beat because he's still finding his way in terms of technique, but more seasoning could make him a star.

12 Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama

Quietly, Hubbard was the most productive pass-rusher for the Tide in 2012. He led the team in both sacks and tackles for loss. He has the perfect frame to be a 3-4 OLB at the next level, with the ability to set the edge as a strong run defender and turn the corner as a pass-rusher.

15 Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State

He arrived in Tallahassee with the frame of a 4-3 defensive end, and the athleticism to play the position, but Jernigan has added the bulk to move inside, where his burst and ability to chase down runners has made him a disruptive interior force. His future is that of a penetrating 4-3 defensive tackle.

16 Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

Even as a highly-rated prospect, 2013 represents an opportunity for Watkins to bounce back and show that he's taken the developmental steps necessary to be a true No. 1 wide receiver. His production fell off in 2012, and recent Houston pick DeAndre Hopkins was the more potent threat for Clemson. But Watkins has a ton of natural ability.

17 C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama

A gifted linebacker in terms of his ability to cover, Mosley has the all-around versatility that will make him an appealing linebacker in any scheme. He flies to the ball and makes a ton of plays; now he simply needs to get a bit stronger and show the leverage against the run, along with the ability to take on blockers and hold his ground.

18 Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M

At 6-foot-5, Evans sometimes looks like he plays even taller. He simply overwhelms cornerbacks with size, and is a great deep threat even when he doesn't get separation. Evans is also underrated as a receiver who can make defenders miss with the ball in his hands. Even with a redshirt year, he's still learning the position as a late arrival to football, so expect him to get even better in 2013.

19 Cameron Erving, LT, Florida State

Evaluators I've spoken to are extremely high on Erving's potential, and the tape shows why. He moves so easily, and really solidified the left tackle position for the Seminoles last year, even as he continues to figure things out. I wouldn't be surprised if he challenges to be the top tackle in the draft class.

21 Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

Of the quarterbacks on the Big Board, Boyd has the best arm strength, and he can make the big throws both down the field and to the edges. He's got plenty of mobility and can escape the rush and throw well on the move. A hard worker who took another step forward with accuracy in 2012, Boyd needs to be smart in his decision-making -- he occasionally forces throws. He's not tall, but otherwise he has all the physical tools you want.

25 Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M

It's amazing to think that at this point a year ago, there was no certainty that Manziel would be the starting QB for the Aggies in 2012. A gifted improviser in the pocket, Manziel has an ability to extend plays that makes you think of Aaron Rodgers. He utilizes great movement skills and vision to overcome a lack of height, and while he doesn't have a big arm, there's no reason to think he won't continue to build arm strength. He's going to get even better.

Link (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9248737/2014-nfl-draft-first-big-board-ranking-2014-nfl-draft-prospects)

Surprised that Erving is as high as he is. He only has one year of experience as an offensive lineman. He was a defensive tackle that moved to offensive tackle, only because our DL depth was fantastic and our OL depth was pretty poor. He played well, but well enough to make this list? I'm not so sure.

The two QBs on this list are my two favorites, although I like Boyd more than Bridgewater right now.

76Texan
05-14-2013, 08:20 PM
I've been watching tapes of the Q man from San Jose St. and the QB really caught my eyes.

David Fales.
I think he'll be drafted in the first two rounds.
Looks like a smart heady QB.

htownfan32
05-16-2013, 05:24 PM
I don't understand this criticism of Manziel's arm. He's no Joe Flacco but he can make all the throws, and on the run too.

76Texan
05-16-2013, 09:00 PM
I don't know if Cornell is going to be on TV next year or not, but the QB Jeff Matthews looks like a legitimate NFL prospect.

I think he will get to play at the Senior Bowl, and get an invitation to the combine.

He won't be an unknown quality for long when people get to see him play.
Kid got all the tools to be an NFL starter.

rmartin65
05-16-2013, 09:20 PM
I don't know if Cornell is going to be on TV next year or not, but the QB Jeff Matthews looks like a legitimate NFL prospect.

I think he will get to play at the Senior Bowl, and get an invitation to the combine.

He won't be an unknown quality for long when people get to see him play.
Kid got all the tools to be an NFL starter.

Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Kurt Hess from Youngstown State has some good tools as well, since we are on small school QBs.

76Texan
05-17-2013, 10:58 AM
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Kurt Hess from Youngstown State has some good tools as well, since we are on small school QBs.

There's something there.
Good prospect.

I'd like to see him take some deeper passes to gauge his arm strength; it doesn't appear that he attempts anything longer than 40 yards last year.

His O-line seems to do a good job protecting him, and they had a good running game that makes it difficult to properly evaluate the QB.

I'll keep an eye on him for sure.

b0ng
05-17-2013, 02:28 PM
Unless we're drafting inside the top 10 you can probably go ahead and forget about Clowney, Bridgwater and Matthews. Manziel I'm more iffy on if he'll get drafted high or not, and I think one of the top WR's is going to go pretty high if they all continue on their current paths.

This is the QB prospect I'm going to watch:

Blake Bortles (QB, UCF) vs Ball State. Beef O' Brady's Bowl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp930aTlYaQ)
Blake Bortles vs Missouri '12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZa6_irsHuQ)
Blake Bortles does an impression of Johnny Manziel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OM4XU94Qgo)
Blake Bortles vs Marshall '12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcbH22BS2I)


6'4"/224lbs RS Junior.
2012
ATT CMP YDS % AVG LNG TD INT SCK RATE
2012 251 399 3059 62.9 7.67 64 25 7 22 144.5
2011 75 110 958 68.2 8.71 53 6 3 8 153.9

TexansSeminole
05-17-2013, 02:55 PM
Unless we're drafting inside the top 10 you can probably go ahead and forget about Clowney, Bridgwater and Matthews. Manziel I'm more iffy on if he'll get drafted high or not, and I think one of the top WR's is going to go pretty high if they all continue on their current paths.

I think you can pretty much add Boyd to that list as well, although I think he would fit us perfectly.

76Texan
05-17-2013, 10:01 PM
Unless we're drafting inside the top 10 you can probably go ahead and forget about Clowney, Bridgwater and Matthews. Manziel I'm more iffy on if he'll get drafted high or not, and I think one of the top WR's is going to go pretty high if they all continue on their current paths.

This is the QB prospect I'm going to watch:

Blake Bortles (QB, UCF) vs Ball State. Beef O' Brady's Bowl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp930aTlYaQ)
Blake Bortles vs Missouri '12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZa6_irsHuQ)
Blake Bortles does an impression of Johnny Manziel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OM4XU94Qgo)
Blake Bortles vs Marshall '12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcbH22BS2I)


6'4"/224lbs RS Junior.
2012
ATT CMP YDS % AVG LNG TD INT SCK RATE
2012 251 399 3059 62.9 7.67 64 25 7 22 144.5
2011 75 110 958 68.2 8.71 53 6 3 8 153.9

Been watching him; not sure about the guy, but A J Bouye looks like a player.

rmartin65
05-21-2013, 05:11 PM
The ILB class for next year looks really strong.

badboy
05-21-2013, 05:21 PM
The ILB class for next year looks really strong.Remember Andrew Jackson?

rmartin65
05-21-2013, 05:35 PM
Remember Andrew Jackson?

Yeah, Jackson is a good one. Bullough from MSU, Johnson from Tennessee, Blair from UC, Borland from Wisconsin, Williamson from Kentucky, Marry from Ole Miss, Skov from Stanford, Edmond from UT, Brown from Louisville, Renaud from Boise State, and Fox from Notre Dame all show NFL potential. And that is not even counting some of the other guys that are ranked highly that I have not been able to focus on yet.

rmartin65
05-21-2013, 05:43 PM
While I am here, Ryan Carrethers from Arkansas State is worth a look. 330 pounder (NT), but not a fat guy. Should run around a 5.0 flat.

badboy
05-21-2013, 05:50 PM
Yeah, Jackson is a good one. Bullough from MSU, Johnson from Tennessee, Blair from UC, Borland from Wisconsin, Williamson from Kentucky, Marry from Ole Miss, Skov from Stanford, Edmond from UT, Brown from Louisville, Renaud from Boise State, and Fox from Notre Dame all show NFL potential. And that is not even counting some of the other guys that are ranked highly that I have not been able to focus on yet.i have Borland and Skov on my radar and will focus on Fox but not sure about him yet.

badboy
05-21-2013, 05:53 PM
While I am here, Ryan Carrethers from Arkansas State is worth a look. 330 pounder (NT), but not a fat guy. Should run around a 5.0 flat.

Yep but need to see more of him..