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pec0sb0b
04-02-2013, 07:53 PM
Found a mock-draft on WalterFootball, where they selected Tennessee WR Justin Hunter.
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php

Most mock-drafts I have seen have Houston selecting a wide receiver in the first round, but this one had a link to an interesting article about Justin Hunter on their rumour mill.
http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php#justinhunter

WalterFootall.com spoke with some scouts, including one from a receiver-needy team picking in the back half of the top 32. All believe that Hunter is likely to go in the first round. They said the Combine really helped Hunter with positive reports from his medical check and an excellent 40-yard dash time of 4.44 seconds.

Scouts told WalterFootball.com that they love the upside of Hunter. He has the size to work in the short to intermediate part of the field and speed to get vertical. They like his run-after-the-catch ability as well as his combination of size and speed. Hunter hasn't received a lot of first-round buzz, but one team in the mid 20s said it would be ecstatic if he was on the board for its pick.


I'm pretty sure the writer is talking about the Texans. He mentions the scout twice in the article. Lots of rumours spread this time of year, though.

Playoffs
04-02-2013, 08:03 PM
I won't believe 99% of rumors is credited to http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/emot-airquote.gifinsiders from teams, from just after the Combine until draft day.

TXAg14
04-02-2013, 08:09 PM
With the Texans, who knows at 27. The safe bet is to get a WR, but I can see them getting a LB, OL help, etc. with the pick as well. Hell, it could be a TE for all I know.

I've spent almost every draft trying to guess and pick who would be drafted by the Texans, and almost every time I seem to be wrong. Way wrong. Basically, I've just learned my lesson to not be surprised when the Texans pick gets announced and trust the front office.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 08:21 PM
My source told me that the Texans are targeting RB Eddie Lacy in the first.
If he's not there, they will take a Kicker.:overreact:

powda
04-02-2013, 08:43 PM
My source told me that the Texans are targeting RB Eddie Lacy in the first.
If he's not there, they will take a Kicker.:overreact:

Asidd's buddy sure talks a lot. He told me the Texans were targeting a center in the first.

(We'd better be looking at Hunter!)

CloakNNNdagger
04-02-2013, 09:52 PM
He suffered an ACL in 2011. He is 6'4" 196#. He is built like a walking stick.

http://www.mongabay.com/images/peru/manu/Manu_1022_1661.JPG

If he doesn't add significant weight/bulk especially in his lower extremities (quads/hammies) to protect his knees.........NFL D's will likely offer to help him into bed........a hospital bed.........soon and often. :kitten:

ObsiWan
04-02-2013, 10:04 PM
He suffered an ACL in 2011. He is 6'4" 196#. He is built like a walking stick.

http://www.mongabay.com/images/peru/manu/Manu_1022_1661.JPG

If he doesn't add significant weight/bulk especially in his lower extremities (quads/hammies) to protect his knees.........NFL D's will likely offer to help him into bed........a hospital bed.........soon and often. :kitten:
Didn't those measurements describe Randy Moss when he came out of Marshall...??

ArlingtonTexan
04-02-2013, 10:15 PM
He suffered an ACL in 2011. He is 6'4" 196#. He is built like a walking stick.

http://www.mongabay.com/images/peru/manu/Manu_1022_1661.JPG

If he doesn't add significant weight/bulk especially in his lower extremities (quads/hammies) to protect his knees.........NFL D's will likely offer to help him into bed........a hospital bed.........soon and often. :kitten:

I remember hearing during combine coverage, someone saying that he lost around 10 pounds or so in order to post a better time...i.e. he plays closer to 205 (not that is truly bulky or anything),

infantrycak
04-02-2013, 10:17 PM
Didn't those measurements describe Randy Moss when he came out of Marshall...??

Can Hunter run a 4.25?

Big Lou
04-02-2013, 11:11 PM
Asidd's buddy sure talks a lot. He told me the Texans were targeting a center in the first.

(We'd better be looking at Hunter!)

I heard they are targeting a Long Snapper, but they will go BPA and that will probably end up being Punt Team Gunner.

Big Lou
04-02-2013, 11:13 PM
I remember hearing during combine coverage, someone saying that he lost around 10 pounds or so in order to post a better time...i.e. he plays closer to 205 (not that is truly bulky or anything),

I'm 6' 4" 230 these days, but when I was his age I weighed about 170, that's a stick. Compared to that 196 is down right muscle bound.........

mussop
04-03-2013, 01:26 AM
Hope someone else drafts him. He looks clumsy at times. His legs are too long and skinny. There will be a lot better value at 27 than what he brings.

otisbean
04-03-2013, 04:12 AM
He suffered an ACL in 2011. He is 6'4" 196#. He is built like a walking stick.

http://www.mongabay.com/images/peru/manu/Manu_1022_1661.JPG

If he doesn't add significant weight/bulk especially in his lower extremities (quads/hammies) to protect his knees.........NFL D's will likely offer to help him into bed........a hospital bed.........soon and often. :kitten:

This is my issue with him. I can see why people like his skills set, but watching him cut on some of his breaks makes me cringe. He's already had 1 non-contact ACL injury

Wolf6151
04-03-2013, 04:21 AM
I doubt seriously the Texans are targeting any one player at #27, but I'm sure Justin Hunter is probably on their list of acceptable prospects. He is skinny but I think an NFL level strength and conditioning program will add some bulk to him and I'd have no problem if the Texans picked him in the 1st. Hopkins has a higher floor but Hunter has a much higher ceiling. Yes he's a little risky but all rookies have risk attached to them. Hunter has great measurables and athleticism that could make him special in a couple years.

otisbean
04-03-2013, 06:56 AM
There are 2 areas of concern (in my mind) with Hunter:

He has one of the highest drop rates amongst the top WRs in the draft. That's an issue. What good is it to have athleticism and measurables if you don't consistently catch the ball. I'm sure this can be improved if he's dedicated and works hard.

Then we get to the primary issue (at least for me) the injury risk. Watching him in and out of breaks you'll notice alot of knee movement that's not supposed to happen. The knee is a hinge joint, it's supposed to bend in one direction, movement outside of that range increases the likely hood of injury. He's already had a serious non contact injury to one knee, and watching him move the chance of it happening again is definitely there. That would be a concern for me, especially in a first round pick.

Rey
04-03-2013, 08:19 AM
I'd take him in a minute.

I'm not concerned about his injury nor his weight.

CloakNNNdagger
04-03-2013, 11:01 AM
There are 2 areas of concern (in my mind) with Hunter:

He has one of the highest drop rates amongst the top WRs in the draft. That's an issue. What good is it to have athleticism and measurables if you don't consistently catch the ball. I'm sure this can be improved if he's dedicated and works hard.

Then we get to the primary issue (at least for me) the injury risk. Watching him in and out of breaks you'll notice alot of knee movement that's not supposed to happen. The knee is a hinge joint, it's supposed to bend in one direction, movement outside of that range increases the likely hood of injury. He's already had a serious non contact injury to one knee, and watching him move the chance of it happening again is definitely there. That would be a concern for me, especially in a first round pick.

Exactly why I posted the "stick"...............his knees. He'll probably need to get to at least 210 in the NFL. And then his knees would still remain a concern. You wonder what happens to his 4.40 time (taken at his lightest weight) when he gets to a more reasonable NFL playing weight. Overall, if we could get him in the 2nd round, I think he may be worth a try.

otisbean
04-03-2013, 12:41 PM
Exactly why I posted the "stick"...............his knees. He'll probably need to get to at least 210 in the NFL. And then his knees would still remain a concern. You wonder what happens to his 4.40 time (taken at his lightest weight) when he gets to a more reasonable NFL playing weight. Overall, if we could get him in the 2nd round, I think he may be worth a try.

If he's there in the 2nd, definitely worth the risk. You can definitely add weight and maintain, even gain speed if the weight is added appropriately to the correct areas, its like adding a bigger engine to a car. If you look at photos of Usain Bolt over the years, he added a lot of size in his legs and he's become ridiculously fast as a result.

I'd still be concerned with injury though, he has such long legs to stabilize/decelerate

CloakNNNdagger
04-03-2013, 02:01 PM
If he's there in the 2nd, definitely worth the risk. You can definitely add weight and maintain, even gain speed if the weight is added appropriately to the correct areas, its like adding a bigger engine to a car. If you look at photos of Usain Bolt over the years, he added a lot of size in his legs and he's become ridiculously fast as a result.

I'd still be concerned with injury though, he has such long legs to stabilize/decelerate

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/jtr0278l.jpg

otisbean
04-03-2013, 07:39 PM
LOL!

beerlover
04-03-2013, 08:11 PM
stick bugs are cool as hell I may have to reconsider my position :kitten:

IDEXAN
04-07-2013, 04:36 PM
OTTOM LINE Without Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III throwing him the ball in 2012, Williams used his size, quick feet, speed to be a playmaker for the Bears. He had 957 receiving yards, 11 TD as a junior in 2011, and led the entire country in receiving yards his senior year. It might take time for him to learn a full route tree in the NFL, but he’s a big, fast receiver with great body control who is also a willing and able blocker.
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Willing, strong, and physical blocker on bubble screens and in the run game, throwing his body into defenders and sticking with blocks. His blocking was a big key to Baylor’s perimeter run game.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/terrance-williams?id=2539205
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You know Kubiak has got to love the Baylor guys blocking skills and according to this analysis, he's disposed to being a "willing, strong, and physical blocker". Sounds like he's also got a descent size/speed combo. And he could maybe be had in the second round ?

greekdbag
04-07-2013, 08:08 PM
OTTOM LINE Without Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III throwing him the ball in 2012, Williams used his size, quick feet, speed to be a playmaker for the Bears. He had 957 receiving yards, 11 TD as a junior in 2011, and led the entire country in receiving yards his senior year. It might take time for him to learn a full route tree in the NFL, but heís a big, fast receiver with great body control who is also a willing and able blocker.
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Willing, strong, and physical blocker on bubble screens and in the run game, throwing his body into defenders and sticking with blocks. His blocking was a big key to Baylorís perimeter run game.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/terrance-williams?id=2539205
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You know Kubiak has got to love the Baylor guys blocking skills and according to this analysis, he's disposed to being a "willing, strong, and physical blocker". Sounds like he's also got a descent size/speed combo. And he could maybe be had in the second round ?

I like Williams, but I'm not sure he lasts until pick 57.

76Texan
04-08-2013, 01:04 PM
I'm a little dissapointed that Williams didn't try to improve on his numbers at his pro day.
4.48 in the forty is pretty good, but with a 4.32 SS, it may show a limited receiver that depends purely on speed to get seperation.
Together with an uneven performance during senior bowl week doesn't help him in this deep class.

If he can't show that he's faster than Posey, nor does he possess the horizontal agility in and out of the brak, nor can he jump as high, nor does he have bigger hands, why should he get drafted higher than Posey's slot?

aussie_texan
04-08-2013, 08:07 PM
does anyone think Hunter could fall to our 2nd round pick.
Or do you think we need to take him with our first or maybe drop down to the early 2nd to get him.

Im really hoping we get Hunter or Rogers because for me there is no other potential number 1 recievers in this draft. without injuries or off field trouble these guys would be top 20 picks imo

Rey
04-09-2013, 01:39 PM
Hopkins reminds me a little of Hines Ward...

otisbean
04-09-2013, 03:22 PM
Hopkins reminds me a little of Hines Ward...

I see the same thing a Hines Ward/Anquan Bolden type WR

Wolf6151
04-10-2013, 05:59 AM
does anyone think Hunter could fall to our 2nd round pick.
Or do you think we need to take him with our first or maybe drop down to the early 2nd to get him.

Im really hoping we get Hunter or Rogers because for me there is no other potential number 1 recievers in this draft. without injuries or off field trouble these guys would be top 20 picks imo

I don't think Hunter is available at our 2nd round pick. I think if we want him we'll either have to take him at #27 or take a risk and trade down to the mid 30's, hope that he's still available, and get Hunter at the top of the 2nd.