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Playoffs
03-29-2013, 08:07 PM
I was driving and had 610 SportsTalk on the radio earlier and McClain said two things I had not heard before or missed reading:

1) He said the reason Jacoby is gone is because his agent asked the Texans to release him because of the treatment he was getting from the fans ... ?

2) He also said that Marciano was not in favor of letting Trindon Holliday go ... ?

McClain was very direct & both statements were very clear. True?

(Mods, wasn't sure where this topic "fit" exactly -- move as needed, thx.)

ChampionTexan
03-29-2013, 08:18 PM
I was driving and had 610 SportsTalk on the radio earlier and McClain said two things I had not heard before or missed reading:

1) He said the reason Jacoby is gone is because his agent asked the Texans to release him because of the treatment he was getting from the fans ... ?

2) He also said that Marciano was not in favor of letting Trindon Holliday go ... ?

McClain was very direct & both statements were very clear. True?

(Mods, wasn't sure where this topic "fit" exactly -- move as needed, thx.)

I've heard both of those things before, and while I can't say they're true any more than you can, they both sound realistic, they make sense, and my guess is they are both probably true (especially the Jacoby thing).

Playoffs
03-29-2013, 08:40 PM
I've heard both of those things before, and while I can't say they're true any more than you can, they both sound realistic, they make sense, and my guess is they are both probably true (especially the Jacoby thing).

Okay, thanks. I'm either getting older or getting dumber .... or both.

One good thing about short term memory loss -- I can hide my own Easter eggs. http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/croatoan5376/Emoticons/smiley_emoticons_fred_osterhasensmi.gif

Lurvinator11
03-29-2013, 09:13 PM
I was driving and had 610 SportsTalk on the radio earlier and McClain said two things I had not heard before or missed reading:

1) He said the reason Jacoby is gone is because his agent asked the Texans to release him because of the treatment he was getting from the fans ... ?

2) He also said that Marciano was not in favor of letting Trindon Holliday go ... ?

McClain was very direct & both statements were very clear. True?

(Mods, wasn't sure where this topic "fit" exactly -- move as needed, thx.)


Yeah, I was somewhat surprised Jacoby was released from us last season. The reason being, is I remember about a month after the Ravens game, reading an article saying that the Coaches had not given up on him, and he will still be with us on opening day.

Then it was reported he was on the trading block, and then released.

Certainly contradicting, but it doesn't surprise me that all of the fans gave him ****. I wonder if he saw the 40 page forum about how he needs to go? :fingergun:

PapaL
03-29-2013, 09:22 PM
If he couldn't put on his big girl panties and take the criticism then oh well. Shouldn't be wrapped up in the media and what the fans are saying anyways. Winning cures all. Come back and shut everyone up...instead he cried. Dude is seriously a mama's boy.

Lurvinator11
03-29-2013, 09:24 PM
If he couldn't put on his big girl panties and take the criticism then oh well. Shouldn't be wrapped up in the media and what the fans are saying anyways. Winning cures all. Come back and shut everyone up...instead he cried. Dude is seriously a mama's boy.

Of course he is a mama's boy! I mean, everytime his mama was in the front row, he would run one back!

That's what we were missing on ST with jacoby. His mama!

SteveSlaton20
03-29-2013, 11:17 PM
if you cant take criticism in the league, then why are you here? you're a big boy, own up to it.

BullNation4Life
03-29-2013, 11:47 PM
Man Jacoby Jones just needed to grow the hell up. I got booed all the time, didn't see it bother me....:vincepalm:

~ Vince Young

gwallaia
03-30-2013, 12:12 AM
**** Jacoby Jones

rolyat93
03-30-2013, 12:34 AM
if you cant take criticism in the league, then why are you here? you're a big boy, own up to it.

I'd like to criticize your sig.:toropalm:

TexanBacker93
03-30-2013, 10:14 AM
I was driving and had 610 SportsTalk on the radio earlier and McClain said two things I had not heard before or missed reading:

1) He said the reason Jacoby is gone is because his agent asked the Texans to release him because of the treatment he was getting from the fans ... ?

2) He also said that Marciano was not in favor of letting Trindon Holliday go ... ?

McClain was very direct & both statements were very clear. True?

(Mods, wasn't sure where this topic "fit" exactly -- move as needed, thx.)

I'm sure he wasn't in favor. ST coaches have to fight tooth and nail for players for their squad. Usually they get the leftovers and backups that have to play ST. He's a potential difference maker as we saw when he was in Denver.

It was a tough call, but when rosters are limited to 53 it makes those decisions tough. I wish the NFLPA would push for 2 or 3 more roster spots. It would make it easier to keep 1 trick ponies and depth at important areas.

steelbtexan
03-30-2013, 11:23 AM
If he couldn't put on his big girl panties and take the criticism then oh well. Shouldn't be wrapped up in the media and what the fans are saying anyways. Winning cures all. Come back and shut everyone up...instead he cried. Dude is seriously a mama's boy.

Yep

I'm glad he's gone.

that is all

Brisco_County
03-30-2013, 01:51 PM
Yeah, I was somewhat surprised Jacoby was released from us last season. The reason being, is I remember about a month after the Ravens game, reading an article saying that the Coaches had not given up on him, and he will still be with us on opening day.

Then it was reported he was on the trading block, and then released.

Certainly contradicting, but it doesn't surprise me that all of the fans gave him ****. I wonder if he saw the 40 page forum about how he needs to go? :fingergun:

Many players and their families read message boards, this one included. They may not read it consistently, but it's a way to check the temperature of the fans.

hollywood_texan
03-30-2013, 04:37 PM
I was driving and had 610 SportsTalk on the radio earlier and McClain said two things I had not heard before or missed reading:

1) He said the reason Jacoby is gone is because his agent asked the Texans to release him because of the treatment he was getting from the fans ... ?

2) He also said that Marciano was not in favor of letting Trindon Holliday go ... ?

McClain was very direct & both statements were very clear. True?

(Mods, wasn't sure where this topic "fit" exactly -- move as needed, thx.)

It is too bad that David Carr didn't demand his release due to his treatment by the fans.

texanhead08
03-30-2013, 04:52 PM
This sounds like everything else McClain says its basically what the organization told him to say.

Uncle Rico
03-30-2013, 06:20 PM
I think thats an awful lack of intestinal fortitude on Jacoby's part if that information is correct.

Holliday had decent to above average blockers on the special teams unit in Denver, here he wouldnt have been able to break much because apart from Braman, that unit just had some warm bodies. Also, why in the world did it take sooo long for Manning to return a few kicks? He has a knack, that kind of stuff is hard to teach.

gg no re
03-30-2013, 06:52 PM
Also, why in the world did it take sooo long for Manning to return a few kicks? He has a knack, that kind of stuff is hard to teach.
After the Jason Sehorn debacle from a few years back, I don't think a lot of teams are too keen on having key starters on special teams.

texanhead08
03-30-2013, 07:04 PM
You can't blame the Texans for that Manning is too important to the defense to risk losing him on special teams.

El Tejano
04-01-2013, 03:47 PM
I'm sorry but fans burning your jersey on your front yard is not just fan criticism. That's what happened to Jacoby and I don't blame him for leaving for that reason.

ChampionTexan
04-01-2013, 03:56 PM
I'm sorry but fans burning your jersey on your front yard is not just fan criticism. That's what happened to Jacoby and I don't blame him for leaving for that reason.

Never happened...
Jonesí agent, Kennard McGuire, said Monday that his client didnít receive any death threats Sunday night, and no one burned his jersey on the lawn at his home, as some fan websites claimed.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/01/disheartened-jacoby-jones-apologizes-for-mistake/

Jones needed a change, just like Brad Lidge did - although Jones didn't (and still hasn't) shown nearly the ability that Lidge did.

I've got no problem with his playoff success in Baltimore, and I don't care if he goes on to be the next Jerry Rice - he needed to be somewhere other than Houston. The only problem I have with him telling that to the Texans is they should have beat him to the punch.

PapaL
04-01-2013, 03:56 PM
I'm sorry but fans burning your jersey on your front yard is not just fan criticism. That's what happened to Jacoby and I don't blame him for leaving for that reason.

Maybe he should have had an hour special on ESPN and kept us on the edge of our seats about his impeding move to Miami?

There are wackos and loons every where but don't try to make this out to be like there were rows of fans lined up ready to burn crap in his yard. If he was truly scared he would have hired security or asked the team to take other precautionary measures.

El Tejano
04-01-2013, 03:57 PM
Never happened...

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/01/disheartened-jacoby-jones-apologizes-for-mistake/

Jones needed a change, just like Brad Lidge did - although Jones didn't (and still hasn't) shown nearly the ability that Lidge did.

I've got no problem with his playoff success in Baltimore, and I don't care if he goes on to be the next Jerry Rice - he needed to be somewhere other than Houston. The only problem I have with him telling that to the Texans is they should have beat him to the punch.

Ok.

And yes I agree. Although we could've used his return ability.

Imatexanfan
04-03-2013, 11:10 PM
After that muffed punt I could careless about JJones and still don't care..he did us wrong then went and signed on the team he gave our game to..***** Jacoby..:shades:

powda
04-03-2013, 11:16 PM
This morning on the radio I heard johnny mac declare the texans WILL select a wr and rt with their first 2 picks (no particular order.) This guy hasn't been relevant since he lost all his sources with the oilers.

2012Champs
04-03-2013, 11:19 PM
If he couldn't put on his big girl panties and take the criticism then oh well. Shouldn't be wrapped up in the media and what the fans are saying anyways. Winning cures all. Come back and shut everyone up...instead he cried. Dude is seriously a mama's boy.


He did cry and then win a Super Bowl

beerlover
04-03-2013, 11:23 PM
JM is just a parrot so he may be worth repeating :pigfly:

tru80texan
04-04-2013, 12:03 AM
This morning on the radio I heard johnny mac declare the texans WILL select a wr and rt with their first 2 picks (no particular order.) This guy hasn't been relevant since he lost all his sources with the oilers.

The same McLame that stated that Mario was the Texans #1 priority despite multiple sources saying it would practically be impossible due to the salary cap issues. Come to find out, courtesy of Mario, they never even offered him a deal. So much for being the #1 priority. McLame can't even figure out the obvious despite being a Texan "insider". It's a shame we have to deal w/ this type of "reporting". :smiliepalm:

HouTx11
04-04-2013, 09:10 AM
I don't blame Jacoby a bit for leaving the Texans, and in his position I would've done the very same. I am very glad he did! No matter how he played here in Houston he would've been booed and jeered. It was time for him to move on.

He is now playing for a town that doesn't hate him near as bad, and on top of that he now has a SB ring...........and his play in the playoffs was key to making it happen. Best thing that could've happened to the Ravens.

Win win situation for Jacoby, and I am happy for him!

GP
04-04-2013, 10:22 AM
I don't blame Jacoby a bit for leaving the Texans, and in his position I would've done the very same. I am very glad he did! No matter how he played here in Houston he would've been booed and jeered. It was time for him to move on.

He is now playing for a town that doesn't hate him near as bad, and on top of that he now has a SB ring...........and his play in the playoffs was key to making it happen. Best thing that could've happened to the Ravens.

Win win situation for Jacoby, and I am happy for him!

Signed,

One Of Jacoby's Relatives

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btw, you accidentally put a HouTX in your screen name. I fixed it for you, in the quote section.

TexansBull
04-04-2013, 10:32 PM
I find it funny that McClain is commenting on a year old story as if he just got breaking insider news that noone else has heard. Poor guy. Its just mean the way Texans play with this guy.

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Lucky
04-04-2013, 10:51 PM
1) He said the reason Jacoby is gone is because his agent asked the Texans to release him because of the treatment he was getting from the fans ... ?
Let's get real here. If the Texans didn't want to cut Jones, they would not have cut him. They wanted him gone for whatever reason (mistakes, lack of development at WR, public relations). The Texans aren't going to cut a player just because their agent requests it.

Where's the McClain face palm?

Texan_Bill
04-04-2013, 10:54 PM
If he couldn't put on his big girl panties and take the criticism then oh well. Shouldn't be wrapped up in the media and what the fans are saying anyways. Winning cures all. Come back and shut everyone up...instead he cried. Dude is seriously a mama's boy.

While I'm late on the subject.......... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Porky
04-05-2013, 03:21 PM
As a football player Jacoby makes a pretty good dancer.

I'm happy he had a great playoff run, but what he did here was like what Bucky Dent did in the World Series a decade or more ago now.

I mean stupid, stupid stuff. More mental than physical. I can overlook a physical error, but you've got to be using your brain or you need to go somewhere else.

The Third Man
04-05-2013, 05:18 PM
As a football player Jacoby makes a pretty good dancer.

I'm happy he had a great playoff run, but what he did here was like what Bucky Dent did in the World Series a decade or more ago now.

I mean stupid, stupid stuff. More mental than physical. I can overlook a physical error, but you've got to be using your brain or you need to go somewhere else.

Jacoby Jones was instrumental in winning playoff games (plural) for Baltimore. It is indisputable. You can diminish him, but stack up every Houston wide out ever- nobody has ever made a bigger impact in the playoffs than Jacoby Jones did last year.

disaacks3
04-05-2013, 05:49 PM
Jacoby Jones was instrumental in winning playoff games (plural) for Baltimore. It is indisputable. You can diminish him, but stack up every Houston wide out ever- nobody has ever made a bigger impact in the playoffs than Jacoby Jones did last year. Sadly, that wasn't due to anything other than him being considered a low threat. When the passes he caught could contend well with a punter's hang-time, he wasn't exactly a sharp route runner caught in stride.

Using him as a deep-threat on mostly fly routes is what I'd hoped the Texans were leaving him at. He failed miserably when they tried to make him a #2, much less a #1. The Ravens saw what we saw several years ago...let him stretch the field and catch deep routes. He wasn't good for many other patterns.

It's not sour grapes, it's an honest evaluation. :kitten:

Lucky
04-05-2013, 05:50 PM
Jacoby Jones was instrumental in winning playoff games (plural) for Baltimore. It is indisputable.
He was instrumental in Baltimore's playoff win the previous year, as well.

2012Champs
04-08-2013, 01:54 PM
He was instrumental in Baltimore's playoff win the previous year, as well.



no more so than TJ Yates

kingtexan
04-08-2013, 02:21 PM
no more so than TJ Yates

Defense looked great before the muff, then it was like the air went out of the team after the Ravens scored. I have to disagree. Jacoby had more to do with that loss than Yates.

2012Champs
04-08-2013, 03:46 PM
Defense looked great before the muff, then it was like the air went out of the team after the Ravens scored. I have to disagree. Jacoby had more to do with that loss than Yates.



Well you can disagree but the defense played just fine the entire game. We were losing 7-3 five minutes into the game. In part because all we could get on our opening drive starting at the balt 41 was a FG and the other because of Jones muffed punt. Then couple that with a 35 yard punt and a ravens FG we were down 10-3 9 min into the game. Then yates was almost picked by Lewis but Dre broke it up and that was 3 and out. 3 and out for balt. Yates int gives the ball to balt at the hou 34 +7 points to 17-3. Hou FG 17-6. Balt 3 and out. Texans TD 17-13. Balt gets 2 first downs and then punts. Half. Balt 3 and out. Hou 3 and out. balt 3 and out. Hou missed 50 yard FG. Balt 2 first downs and a punt. Hou 3 and out. Balt 3 and out. Hou 1 first down and punt. Balt 3 and out. Hou INT @ balt 29. Balt FG 20-13. Hou INT @ balt 4. Balt 3 and out. Houston 3 and out.


Im not a Jones fan but I can see it was Yates, Jones and our kicking that cost us the game not a single person

tru80texan
04-09-2013, 01:33 AM
Defense looked great before the muff, then it was like the air went out of the team after the Ravens scored. I have to disagree. Jacoby had more to do with that loss than Yates.

Yates played a key role in the loss, but I lay a lot of that blame at the feet of the offensive guru HC who took the ball out of the All Pro RB's hands & put the game in the hands of the 3rd string rookie QB. Needless to say, that was a foolish move. Kubiak holds some blame as he nuetralized Arian when the Ravens could not & allowed Yates to commit multiple turnovers that most teams cannot recover from. Jacoby made a mistake or 2, but it was not the nail in the coffin by any means imo.