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srrono
03-26-2013, 09:03 AM
Texan Takeover ‏@texantakeover 34m
Tyrann Mathieu scheduled to meet with the @HoustonTexans per @BoMarchionte


James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN 1m
#texanstalk. Reports say honey badger set to workout for #texans. Need a young safety in the draft. More to come

John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL 2m
Mathieu spent lot of time in rehab in Houston with John Lucas after LSU suspended him.

Rey
03-26-2013, 09:30 AM
I like him as a safety. I don't like him at all as a corner...

Mr teX
03-26-2013, 09:32 AM
could wind up being the steal of the draft if he can make the transition and if he's truly got his head on straight...

Scooter
03-26-2013, 09:34 AM
how many players have we drafted that we individually met with? i dont keep track of these things, but i cant remember a notable player that we followed up with and then went on to select in the draft.

76Texan
03-26-2013, 09:38 AM
What draft slot are you guys willing to risk on him?

He does have some skills.

Scooter
03-26-2013, 09:44 AM
he was on NFLN recently, and has had several interviews, and i'm not sold that he's going to put in the work. a ton of talent, but i wouldnt spend more than a 5th on him. i expect his draft to be one extreme or the other ... someone is going to either grab him by the second round because of his talent, or he's going to fall to at least the 6th because nobody believes his commitment.

76Texan
03-26-2013, 09:46 AM
how many players have we drafted that we individually met with? i dont keep track of these things, but i cant remember a notable player that we followed up with and then went on to select in the draft.

Last year, we worked out Bullock, Brooks, and Keenum.

Note: CB D.J. Hayden (U of H) is also schedule for a work-out with the Texans.
He has made progress from his near-fatal injury.
I like this guy quite a bit as a late round prospect.
Some think he can play on Sunday (even when he was just a Sophomore.)
Normally, he would have been drafted - my guess is in the mid round at least, but with his injury, there's no telling.

76Texan
03-26-2013, 09:47 AM
he was on NFLN recently, and has had several interviews, and i'm not sold that he's going to put in the work. a ton of talent, but i wouldnt spend more than a 5th on him. i expect his draft to be one extreme or the other ... someone is going to either grab him by the second round because of his talent, or he's going to fall to at least the 6th because nobody believes his commitment.

Sounds logical.

Scooter
03-26-2013, 09:50 AM
Last year, we worked out Bullock, Brooks, and Keenum.

i guess that's the answer to perception vs reality.

edit: msr

Rey
03-26-2013, 09:55 AM
I'd be targeting dj swearinger in the third, but if he was gone before our pick I'd pick the honey badger with that compensatory third.

You need a good young playmaking/versatile safety. I'd roll the dice.

TexanSam
03-26-2013, 10:04 AM
He's got talent, but he's so small I feel that he would be constantly injured as a safety.

aussie_texan
03-26-2013, 10:18 AM
i would really consider taking him with one of our 3rd rounders.
His way to talented, and considering the locker room we have with so many top notch leaders i think it would be the best environment for him to succeed

b0ng
03-26-2013, 10:58 AM
I'd be targeting dj swearinger in the third, but if he was gone before our pick I'd pick the honey badger with that compensatory third.

You need a good young playmaking/versatile safety. I'd roll the dice.

I've read that swearinger has been rocketing up draft boards to the late first early second.

76Texan
03-26-2013, 11:06 AM
I've read that swearinger has been rocketing up draft boards to the late first early second.

That high?

I like him, too, but I give him third round grade.
All in all, I don't like this draft class at the top.

I see a lot of third-seventh round guys.

Maybe I need to go back and re-grade them.

I'm not sure I've seen a guy that I like the same as Tavon Wilson who was drafted in the second by the Pats last year.

76Texan
03-26-2013, 11:07 AM
That is unless you convert some CBs to the position.

Playoffs
03-26-2013, 11:21 AM
he was on NFLN recently, and has had several interviews, and i'm not sold that he's going to put in the work. a ton of talent, but i wouldnt spend more than a 5th on him. i expect his draft to be one extreme or the other ... someone is going to either grab him by the second round because of his talent, or he's going to fall to at least the 6th because nobody believes his commitment.

Concerns are 90% about off the field issues. I'm not convinced that he addresses those or that being this close to "home" wouldn't be exacerbate the problems.

I do find him very intriguing as a fan to see how he fares at his size.

76Texan
03-26-2013, 11:23 AM
Dang, I read on the Pats MB that Hayden is considered 2nd-3rd round talent by some scouts.

mussop
03-26-2013, 12:53 PM
Dang, I read on the Pats MB that Hayden is considered 2nd-3rd round talent by some scouts.

Mayok has him as a first rounder. Number three CB overall.

Playoffs
03-26-2013, 01:07 PM
Dang, I read on the Pats MB that Hayden is considered 2nd-3rd round talent by some scouts.
What's your take on him -- outside of the whole heart thing?

76Texan
03-26-2013, 02:01 PM
What's your take on him -- outside of the whole heart thing?

Talented; needs to work on technique.
Tough, physical.
Good size and speed to play man.
I liked him the first time I saw him play.

I wouldn't put him in the first, more like a third with upside (without the medical condition).

Insideop
03-27-2013, 07:51 AM
That high?

I like him, too, but I give him third round grade.
All in all, I don't like this draft class at the top.

I see a lot of third-seventh round guys.

Maybe I need to go back and re-grade them.

I'm not sure I've seen a guy that I like the same as Tavon Austin who was drafted in the second by the Pats last year.

That's the whole problem with this draft class. There is no star potential like RGIII, Luck, "Megatron," AJ, or anyone else you can think of. That's why you "see a lot of third-seventh round guys." So, a lot of those that some have with a 3rd round grade rise up to the 2nd, or even 1st, because no one is sure where to put them due to most of the players being close talent wise. And, that's why some are saying there's not much difference (in talent) from #1 to #32 in this class, so it's better to be where the Texans are at #27 than to have a top 10 pick in this years draft. It's a tough class to gauge.

Señor Stan
03-27-2013, 08:31 AM
Ed Reed Reached Out to Mathieu (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ed-Reed-Reached-Out-To-Tyrann-Mathieu/305ca406-39da-4f38-8a40-481aa8b48b15)

His focus over the next few weeks is to convince teams that he’s trustworthy and worth the investment of a draft pick. Through the pre-draft process, Ravens veteran safety Ed Reed has reached out to his representatives to provide some guidance to the 20-year-old defender.

“He never talked to me personally but he's reached out to my adoptive parents,” Mathieu said Sunday at the NFL Combine. “He's reached out to my agent and [former LSU defensive back and current Arizona Cardinals cornerback] Patrick Peterson."

Reed works with and advises a number of young players around the NFL. Just last year he reached out to South Carolina State safety Christian Thompson, who the Ravens ended up drafting in the fourth round.

Playoffs
03-27-2013, 09:05 AM
“He never talked to me personally but..."
Honey Badger didn't return his call?

Señor Stan
03-27-2013, 09:28 AM
Honey Badger didn't return his call?


That part surprised me as well...

Insideop
03-27-2013, 10:03 AM
Honey Badger didn't return his call?

He needs to get with Reed and stay off the weed! :shades:

steelbtexan
03-27-2013, 12:07 PM
What draft slot are you guys willing to risk on him?

He does have some skills.

3rd rd, Supp pick.

Great S/slot CB type guy. Most instinctive playmaker in the draft.

Best KR/PR in this draft.

Paul
03-27-2013, 10:47 PM
I would use our 2nd round pick and one of our 3rd rounders to get Mathieu and Hayden. They both have elite potential.

Playoffs
03-28-2013, 02:30 PM
Dang, I read on the Pats MB that Hayden is considered 2nd-3rd round talent by some scouts.

I got a chance to sit down and have a nice early dinner with a scout for an AFC team following the University of Houston’s Pro Day on Monday. We talked about DJ Hayden, some Texas A&M and Louisiana Tech prospects, pass rushers, and more over some excellent Tex-Mex at The Original Ninfa’s, the birthplace of the fajita.

In close paraphrase and some direct quotes, here are some of the thoughts he shared:

–DJ Hayden was worth the trip to Houston. According to this scout, Hayden “was the second best corner I saw all year” before his freakish injury. The ruptured vein in his chest “is obviously a big concern” but he added that team doctors would worry about that and he was ordered by his GM to evaluate Hayden strictly for his on the field prowess. On that front Hayden “is probably the best ballhawk in this draft. He gets to outside throws better than anyone”. His 40 time at his workout affirmed the speed, as this scout had him at 4.36 and “that’s about what he plays at”. Without the injury Hayden would have been a Senior Bowler and almost certainly would have been a top 50 pick. Now? “I’ll be surprised if he isn’t drafted Friday”, which means before the end of the third round according to the scout. I’ve felt around about Hayden with others and heard much the same, with the constant caveat that the medical evaluation is paramount. This scout was unsure of how his team doctors evaluated him but confirmed they have done so.http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/2013/03/conversation-with-a-scout/

76Texan
03-28-2013, 03:33 PM
Talented; needs to work on technique.
Tough, physical.
Good size and speed to play man.
I liked him the first time I saw him play.

I wouldn't put him in the first, more like a third with upside (without the medical condition).

http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/2013/03/conversation-with-a-scout/

Sounds like about the same projection as mine.

Playoffs
04-12-2013, 07:15 PM
Report: Tyrann Mathieu admits to failing more than 10 drug tests (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22058200/report-tyrann-mathieu-admits-to-failing-more-than-10-drug-tests)

As former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu continues to visit with teams in preparation for the NFL Draft, more details of his once-hazy college misdeeds continue to surface.

An NFL assistant coach told USA Today about a conversation a team had with Mathieu during his pre-draft visit.

“During one visit, Mathieu was asked how many drug tests he failed before he was suspended in college,” wrote USA Today. “According to an assistant coach for the team, Mathieu responded: ‘I quit counting at 10. I really don't know.'”

Later in the day, Mathieu responded through LSU's sports information department.

According to the release, "Mathieu said the story does not accurately reflect the discussions that he has had while on official visits to various NFL organizations."
...

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
Tyrann Mathieu's final draft slot will tell you what the NFL thinks about smoking weed. It might surprise you.

76Texan
04-12-2013, 08:18 PM
I remember Hollywood Henderson (long after he became clean) recounting the times he got stoned on the playing field throughout games; and we aren't talking about weeds here. LOL!

Wolf6151
04-16-2013, 06:03 PM
FYI, for those considering Tyrann Mathieu from LSU, I was just watching NBCSports show Pro Football Talk hosted by Erik Kuselias. He stated that in an interview last week with Tyrann Mathieu he admitted that he failed at least 10 drug tests and actually didn't know how many drug tests that he's failed.

mussop
04-16-2013, 07:41 PM
After his tweet I wouldn't take him as an UDFA! Guy is a moron.

America… Only thing its good for is making money other than that this a wicked & cruel place to reside… #pray4boston

Read more: http://withleather.uproxx.com/2013/04/things-that-tyrann-mathieu-probably-should-have-tweeted-yesterday-but-didnt#ixzz2QftTxZ5t

The Pencil Neck
04-16-2013, 08:00 PM
FYI, for those considering Tyrann Mathieu from LSU, I was just watching NBCSports show Pro Football Talk hosted by Erik Kuselias. He stated that in an interview last week with Tyrann Mathieu he admitted that he failed at least 10 drug tests and actually didn't know how many drug tests that he's failed.

Yep.

That was posted here like... 4 days ago or something.

But the guy swears he's seen the error of his ways and turned it around. ANd Deion Sanders believes him so...

Oh, wait. This is the same Deion Sanders who thought Shiloh Keo was going to be a real steal...

So... pass.