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ChampionTexan
03-25-2013, 02:58 PM
Seems like every year we start wondering and asking about this right around now, so here's the latest "unofficial" information on the NFL's releasing of the 2013 schedules.

It’s now officially the time to look for the unofficial clues regarding the date on which the NFL will release the 2013 schedule.

And the biggest clue comes via Mark Durant of the Greenfield (Mass.) Recorder, who has passed along to PFT that he spotted among NFL Network’s online listings a Schedule Release Show to be aired on Tuesday, April 16, at 8:00 p.m. ET.
LINK (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/25/schedule-apparently-is-coming-on-april-16/)

Speedy
03-25-2013, 04:35 PM
Schedule release dates since 2005:

'05 - Apr. 13
'06 - Apr. 6
'07 - Apr. 11
'08 - Apr. 15
'09 - Apr. 14
'10 - Apr. 20
'11 - Apr. 19
'12 - Apr. 17

Speedy
04-15-2013, 07:28 PM
Quietest I ever remember it being concerning the schedule coming out. Usually the national TV games are announced by now or there's leaks for some teams coming from somewhere. Nothing so far this year.

The Pencil Neck
04-15-2013, 08:15 PM
Quietest I ever remember it being concerning the schedule coming out. Usually the national TV games are announced by now or there's leaks for some teams coming from somewhere. Nothing so far this year.

Like you said 3 weeks ago, we should be seeing the schedule by about the 20th.

So we should be seeing it soon.

HOU-TEX
04-16-2013, 11:36 AM
Here it is

League spokesman Greg Aiello announced Tuesday that the NFL's 2013 regular-season slate of games will be announced on Thursday at 8 p.m. ET.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000160204/article/nfl-to-release-regularseason-schedule-thursday?campaign=Twitter_atl

HOU-TEX
04-16-2013, 02:19 PM
I might be on my own on this, but I hope we don't have many primetime games. I wouldn't want any if it was up to me. Although, I think it's almost mandatory for teams to have a Thursday nighter

ChampionTexan
04-16-2013, 02:26 PM
I might be on my own on this, but I hope we don't have many primetime games. I wouldn't want any if it was up to me. Although, I think it's almost mandatory for teams to have a Thursday nighter

Yeah, I think you'll be disapponted. I'm guessing at least four games. One Sunday night, one Thursday night, and two Monday night. Wouldn't be a bit suprised to see a fifth either.

Ryan
04-16-2013, 02:35 PM
I might be on my own on this, but I hope we don't have many primetime games. I wouldn't want any if it was up to me. Although, I think it's almost mandatory for teams to have a Thursday nighter


I'm on board.

IDEXAN
04-16-2013, 02:47 PM
I'd like to see us open on the road this year.

Ryan
04-16-2013, 03:38 PM
I'd like to see us open on the road this year.

@Indy please. At least as early as possible.

Lurvinator11
04-16-2013, 03:55 PM
@Indy please. At least as early as possible.

I've been thinking since January that we will open @Indy.

Just like the 10 season opener, a couple of years back.

Lurvinator11
04-16-2013, 03:56 PM
I'd like to see us open on the road this year.

Judging by the fact that we have opened the past 4 seasons at home, I think it is almost a given that we will be on the road this season.

Speedy
04-16-2013, 04:10 PM
Judging by the fact that we have opened the past 4 seasons at home, I think it is almost a given that we will be on the road this season.The events schedule at reliantpark.com may give some clues. I would put money on the Texans opening at home and hitting the road in week 2.

Lucky
04-17-2013, 12:53 PM
The events schedule at reliantpark.com may give some clues. I would put money on the Texans opening at home and hitting the road in week 2.
Looks like you're right. I'm hoping for the Patriots in primetime (Sunday or Monday Night). Overall, we have 7 games that would seem good for primetime:

Broncos (home)
Seahawks (home)
Patriots (home)
Ravens (away)
Niners (away)
Colts (home or away)

Colts would make a good Thursday Night game late in the year. I think the Ravens and Pats games are definitely primetime. One or two others out of the Broncos, Seahawks, or Niners.

TexansBlood
04-17-2013, 01:39 PM
I'm thinking atleast 6 primetime games.

Thorn
04-17-2013, 02:39 PM
I'm thinking atleast 6 primetime games.

I hope not. I want them all at noon on Sunday.

HOU-TEX
04-18-2013, 11:07 AM
We won't play in the opener.

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 4m
The Ravens will open the 2013 season at Denver in a Thurs night kickoff. Full NFL schedule to be released tonight

Texans Jordan
04-18-2013, 03:08 PM
Comes out tonight. Cant wait to talk about it!

drs23
04-18-2013, 03:17 PM
Comes out tonight. Cant wait to talk about it!

I see you're fairly new but this should be in the NFL section. Perhaps in this thread. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99349)

hookinreds
04-18-2013, 03:23 PM
I hope not. I want them all at noon on Sunday.

Me too! Business as usual please!

srrono
04-18-2013, 03:32 PM
Strength of schedule source (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137115/article/teambyteam-strength-of-schedule-for-2013?campaign=Twitter_news)

Team SOS Opponent record
Carolina Panthers .543 138-116-2
Detroit Lions .539 138-118-0
New Orleans Saints .539 137-117-2
St. Louis Rams .539 137-117-2
Baltimore Ravens .535 137-119-0
Green Bay Packers .533 136-119-1
Arizona Cardinals .520 131-121-4
Miami Dolphins .520 133-123-0
San Francisco 49ers .520 132-122-2
Minnesota Vikings .516 132-124-0
Seattle Seahawks .516 130-122-4
Cincinnati Bengals .508 130-126-0
Jacksonville Jaguars .508 129-125-2
New England Patriots .508 130-126-0
Atlanta Falcons .504 128-126-0
Chicago Bears .502 128-127-1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers .500 127-127-2
Washington Redskins .498 127-128-1
New York Jets .496 127-129-0
Philadelphia Eagles .496 127-129-0
Cleveland Browns .492 126-130-0
Pittsburgh Steelers .496 126-130-0
Tennessee Titans .488 124-130-2
New York Giants .480 123-133-0
Dallas Cowboys .480 121-134-1
Buffalo Bills .473 121-135-0
Houston Texans .473 120-134-2
Kansas City Chiefs .473 121-135-0
Oakland Raiders .469 120-136-0
Indianapolis Colts .461 117-137-2
San Diego Chargers .457 117-139-0
Denver Broncos .430 110-146-0

srrono
04-18-2013, 03:37 PM
Strength of schedule source (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137115/article/teambyteam-strength-of-schedule-for-2013?campaign=Twitter_news)

Team SOS Opponent record
Carolina Panthers .543 138-116-2
Detroit Lions .539 138-118-0
New Orleans Saints .539 137-117-2
St. Louis Rams .539 137-117-2
Baltimore Ravens .535 137-119-0
Green Bay Packers .533 136-119-1
Arizona Cardinals .520 131-121-4
Miami Dolphins .520 133-123-0
San Francisco 49ers .520 132-122-2
Minnesota Vikings .516 132-124-0
Seattle Seahawks .516 130-122-4
Cincinnati Bengals .508 130-126-0
Jacksonville Jaguars .508 129-125-2
New England Patriots .508 130-126-0
Atlanta Falcons .504 128-126-0
Chicago Bears .502 128-127-1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers .500 127-127-2
Washington Redskins .498 127-128-1
New York Jets .496 127-129-0
Philadelphia Eagles .496 127-129-0
Cleveland Browns .492 126-130-0
Pittsburgh Steelers .496 126-130-0
Tennessee Titans .488 124-130-2
New York Giants .480 123-133-0
Dallas Cowboys .480 121-134-1
Buffalo Bills .473 121-135-0
Houston Texans .473 120-134-2
Kansas City Chiefs .473 121-135-0
Oakland Raiders .469 120-136-0
Indianapolis Colts .461 117-137-2
San Diego Chargers .457 117-139-0
Denver Broncos .430 110-146-0
:clown:

ubecool454
04-18-2013, 04:13 PM
Comes out tonight. Cant wait to talk about it!

I just hope I don't have to schedule to many vacation days

Lurvinator11
04-18-2013, 04:16 PM
I just hope I don't have to schedule to many vacation days

When I work during the Holiday break, I am the most religious person ever. Can't miss my service, reading the wonderful word of Texans football!

:kitten:

ObsiWan
04-18-2013, 04:24 PM
I hope not. I want them all at noon on Sunday.

Me too! Business as usual please!

Well..... maybe ONE MNF game...
...HERE in Houston
...against.... ohhh... San Diego maybe.
So they have to travel half way across the country.
:D

pissknocker
04-18-2013, 05:26 PM
I see you're fairly new but this should be in the NFL section. Perhaps in this thread. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99349)

Dude your gonna talk to Michael Jordan like that.

drs23
04-18-2013, 06:22 PM
Dude your gonna talk to Michael Jordan like that.

Yeah, what's wrong with me?:kitten:

kingtexan
04-18-2013, 06:27 PM
I see you're fairly new but this should be in the NFL section. Perhaps in this thread. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99349)

If the intent is to discuss the TEXANS schedule, then why would it be in the wrong section?

drs23
04-18-2013, 06:32 PM
If the intent is to discuss the TEXANS schedule, then why would it be in the wrong section?

:whistle: :thinking: :pop:

JB
04-18-2013, 07:13 PM
Yeah, what's wrong with me?:kitten:



Got a while?

ItsMyFault
04-18-2013, 08:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/INo3ZE9.png

here it goes

Texans Jordan
04-18-2013, 08:04 PM
Bring it!!!

76Texan
04-18-2013, 08:04 PM
Sweet, 4-0 out of the gate. :kingkong:

gwallaia
04-18-2013, 08:12 PM
Interesting that 3 of the last 4 are on the road against division foes.

ThaShark316
04-18-2013, 08:22 PM
Week 6 to week 12 could be a six game win streak...

Don't want to go nuts on that right now, but since the schedule's here...

Texn4life
04-18-2013, 08:24 PM
I'm satisfied with that schedule. Seems pretty manageable all things considered.

Tailgate
04-18-2013, 08:25 PM
Pats at home against a stadium full of revenge.

Lurvinator11
04-18-2013, 08:31 PM
Damn. I don't want New England in December.

Also, am I the only one that's upset over the fact that we have to wait until 9:30 to watch the season opener??

76Texan
04-18-2013, 08:32 PM
Interesting that 3 of the last 4 or on the road against division foes.

Keep them sharp if there's a need.

Fili
04-18-2013, 08:33 PM
6-12 definitely could be a streak.

Texn4life
04-18-2013, 08:33 PM
Damn. I don't want New England in December.

Also, am I the only one that's upset over the fact that we have to wait until 9:30 to watch the season opener??

New England and Denver late will tell us where we're really at as a team. We need to win those games at home if we really are gonna be Super Bowl contenders.

mattieuk
04-18-2013, 08:33 PM
Ouch - a potential 0-3 from weeks 3 to 5 - brutal early season stretch!

The opening two weeks should be very manageable though.

TexansBlood
04-18-2013, 08:37 PM
Damn. I don't want New England in December.

Also, am I the only one that's upset over the fact that we have to wait until 9:30 to watch the season opener??

Not me. That will be the away game I will attend this year.:logo:

Fred
04-18-2013, 08:41 PM
sweet, 19-0 out of the gate. :kingkong:
fify

Fred
04-18-2013, 08:47 PM
Some home prime time games would be nice. Was hoping for a Sunday and Monday night at home. Instead only 1 of 4 prime time games at home after only 1 of 5 at home last year. Although NE on Dec 1 and Den on Dec 22 could be Sunday night flex candidates.

76Texan
04-18-2013, 08:51 PM
Some home prime time games would be nice. Was hoping for a Sunday and Monday night at home. Instead only 1 of 4 prime time games at home after only 1 of 5 at home last year. Although NE on Dec 1 and Den on Dec 22 could be Sunday night flex candidates.

No please. Playing the Pats in the afternoon then head to Jacksonville for a Thurday game is bad enough.

76Texan
04-18-2013, 08:53 PM
The good thing is we don't really have a cold weather game.
The Indy game will be indoor.

srrono
04-18-2013, 08:55 PM
home and away spaced out pretty well untill the last 4 weeks with 3 out of 4 on the road but all 3 winable.

imatexan
04-18-2013, 08:58 PM
Only 1 home prime time game, lame but can't complain too much.

Speedy
04-18-2013, 08:59 PM
The events schedule at reliantpark.com may give some clues. I would put money on the Texans opening at home and hitting the road in week 2.

That's why I don't bet....much.

Speedy
04-18-2013, 09:01 PM
Only 1 home prime time game, lame but can't complain too much.

As a regular tailgater, I'd prefer zero prime time home games. Noon games are so much better.

imatexan
04-18-2013, 09:10 PM
As a regular tailgater, I'd prefer zero prime time home games. Noon games are so much better.

I prefer the excitement of a primetime game, as well as I am not much of a morning person...I would especially rather drinking in the afternoon/night compared to morning.

3:30 Patriots game is a good time.

As far as the schedule I am glad we play KC before the bye and Indy after.

SteveSlaton20
04-18-2013, 09:12 PM
I see a 12-4 season. But of course, we haven't had a draft yet, so it's still super early.

srrono
04-18-2013, 09:15 PM
Have a Thursday night game against the JAGS four days after late NE game.

Thats a tuff turn around.

DEC 1 vs NE 3:25pm
DEC 5 at JAGS 8:25

Fred
04-18-2013, 09:20 PM
No please. Playing the Pats in the afternoon then head to Jacksonville for a Thurday game is bad enough.
So you think playing 7 of 9 prime time games on the road is easier than playing more of them at home? I disagree. If you are a good team you will have a lot of prime time games - if you want minimal total prime timers then start Blaine Gabbert ar QB. I would rather have at least 30% of our prime time games at home.

As a regular tailgater, I'd prefer zero prime time home games. Noon games are so much better.
As a regular tailgater I prefer prime time or at least 3 PM games. Rolling out of the rack at 7AM for the noon kickoffs isn't ideal. Except for Sept which is too hot later so noon is best then. Also prime time (even 3 PM) games are more electric and fun to attend.

76Texan
04-18-2013, 09:33 PM
So you think playing 7 of 9 prime time games on the road is easier than playing more of them at home? I disagree. If you are a good team you will have a lot of prime time games - if you want minimal total prime timers then start Blaine Gabbert ar QB. I would rather have at least 30% of our prime time games at home.


.I didn't say anything about that.
I specifically talked about the Dec 1 game against the Pats, which is already at home in the afternoon.

The next game at Jacksonville is a Thursday night game; that's not going to change. It would have nice if they can schedule for the away team (playing Thursday) to have the previous week off. But it is what it is.

What I meant is that I don't want to change the Dec 1 game to a night game, and then going on the road just a little over 3 days afterward. Actually, the team will probably have to fly out on Wednesday.

Trap_Star
04-18-2013, 09:36 PM
when do individual tickets go on sale?

srrono
04-18-2013, 09:46 PM
Nick Scurfield notes on schedule (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Nicks-Notes-Quick-hits-on-2013-Texans-schedule/8da40da2-e705-47bd-93a3-1a06b7e8429c)

1. Texans schedule, Twitter-style: The Texans’ schedule in 140 characters or less: @ SD(MNF), TEN, @ BAL, SEA, @ SF(SNF), STL, @ KC, BYE, IND(SNF), @ ARI, OAK, JAC, NE, @ JAC(TNF), @ IND, DEN, @ TEN

2. West Coast opener: The Texans’ season opener at San Diego kicks off at 9:20 p.m. CT. If that seems unusually late, that’s because it is. It’s the latest kick and first West Coast Monday night game in team history. It’s also the first primetime opener for the Texans since their inaugural game against Dallas in 2002, which was a Sunday night game at Reliant Stadium. Accounting for an overnight flight and two-hour time change, the Texans likely won’t get back to Reliant Stadium after the game until Tuesday at 7 or 8 a.m.

3. Road opener: This will be just the second time in eight years under Gary Kubiak that the Texans open on the road. The only previous time was at Pittsburgh in 2008, a 38-17 loss.

4. 4 primetime, 1 at home: The Texans have four primetime games in 2013, a year after they had five nationally televised matchups (four in primetime, one on Thanksgiving Day). Just like in 2012, only one of their primetime games is at home (Indianapolis, Week 9).

5. Flex possibilities: The Texans’ home games against the New England Patriots (Week 13, 3:25 p.m. kickoff) and Denver Broncos (Week 16, noon) are prime candidates to be flexed into a later time slot. Flex scheduling begins in Week 11, which means the Texans’ games vs. Oakland (Week 11), vs. Jacksonville (Week 12), at Indianapolis (Week 15) and at Tennessee (Week 17) also could be moved.

6. Patriots part deux: The Texans also played the Patriots in Week 13 last season. They lost 42-14 to drop their record to 11-2, the start of a 1-3 skid that knocked them out of the top seed in the AFC. They lost 41-28 to New England in the Divisional Round of the playoffs. Both of those games were on the road; this time, the Texans get Tom Brady at Reliant Stadium.

7. Tough stretch 1: Weeks 3-5. The Texans have road games at both of last year’s Super Bowl participants (Baltimore Ravens and San Francisco 49ers) sandwiched around a home game against the Seattle Seahawks, who went 11-5 in 2012 and were a missed field goal away from playing in the NFC Championship Game.

8. Tough stretch 2: Weeks 13-17. The Texans finish the season with three of four games on the road against division opponents. The only home game in that stretch is against Peyton Manning and the Broncos, last year’s top seed in the AFC. The game before that stretch is against the Patriots.

ATXtexanfan
04-18-2013, 09:50 PM
Umm this schedule is bad. Tough way to open first five weeks. Well at least we have an elite qb to mange this

Fred
04-18-2013, 09:59 PM
Some home prime time games would be nice.

No please.

I didn't say anything about that.
I specifically talked about the Dec 1 game against the Pats, which is already at home in the afternoon.

The next game at Jacksonville is a Thursday night game; that's not going to change. It would have nice if they can schedule for the away team (playing Thursday) to have the previous week off. But it is what it is.

What I meant is that I don't want to change the Dec 1 game to a night game, and then going on the road just a little over 3 days afterward. Actually, the team will probably have to fly out on Wednesday.
The essence of my original post and your reply are as above. If you "didn't say anything about my post then I am not sure why you quoted it. If your objection was to the side point of flexing only that one game you could have said that instead of no thanks to any home prime time games which you seemed to infer.

As to flying to Jax on a Wed after a home game that is 3 or even 7 hours later ... it's the Jags for crying out loud. Every other team hitting the road for a Thur game has a tougher match even if they have their bye the week before. I think the Ravens played Sun night at home then hit the road on Thur this last season. If the Texans season this year ends like rhe Ravens last year - I am good with that.

Lurvinator11
04-18-2013, 10:05 PM
Wrote a brief blog on it. Take a look if you want!

http://houstontexanfansr.blogspot.com/2013/04/2013-season-schedule.html

76Texan
04-18-2013, 10:38 PM
Some home prime time games would be nice. Was hoping for a Sunday and Monday night at home. Instead only 1 of 4 prime time games at home after only 1 of 5 at home last year. Although NE on Dec 1 and Den on Dec 22 could be Sunday night flex candidates.

No please. Playing the Pats in the afternoon then head to Jacksonville for a Thurday game is bad enough.

I guess I need to delete everything and just quote the Dec 1 vs NE part.

Sorry for the confusion.

76Texan
04-18-2013, 10:46 PM
As to flying to Jax on a Wed after a home game that is 3 or even 7 hours later ... it's the Jags for crying out loud. Every other team hitting the road for a Thur game has a tougher match even if they have their bye the week before. I think the Ravens played Sun night at home then hit the road on Thur this last season. If the Texans season this year ends like rhe Ravens last year - I am good with that.

The Ravens played at home on Sunday then played at home the next Thursday against the Browns.

TexanSam
04-18-2013, 11:04 PM
The schedule doesn't look too bad. Weeks 3-5 look tough, but besides that it seems like a very reasonable schedule. Of course, that's just on paper. Some of these games will be tougher than anticipated while some won't. I just want the season to get here already!

Fred
04-18-2013, 11:04 PM
I guess I need to delete everything and just quote the Dec 1 vs NE part.

Sorry for the confusion.
The delete out is good with a short reply. Else a longer answer. But hey, its just a football MB - no problem.

The Ravens played at home on Sunday then played at home the next Thursday against the Browns.
They were home against the Browns? Then we can be tougher than the Ravens! (If we can hold up against the mighty Jags.)

76Texan
04-18-2013, 11:07 PM
The schedule doesn't look too bad. Weeks 3-5 look tough, but besides that it seems like a very reasonable schedule. Of course, that's just on paper. Some of these games will be tougher than anticipated while some won't. I just want the season to get here already!

The Ravens could have between 8 to 13 new players in their rotation (not all are starters)... Hopefully, they have yet to gel as a team early in the season. ???

TexanSam
04-18-2013, 11:11 PM
The Ravens could have between 8 to 13 new players in their rotation (not all are starters)... Hopefully, they have yet to gel as a team early in the season. ???

Hopefully that's the case, but you can never discount them. The Rams could be a good team this year. They're improving under Jeff Fisher, so that may be a tough game. Same thing with KC. I don't think they'll be playoff contenders, but they're much more talented than last year's record shows. Schedules are fun to look at since the season is still months away, but an easy schedule now may ultimately be a hard one once the season starts and vice versa.

76Texan
04-18-2013, 11:12 PM
The delete out is good with a short reply. Else a longer answer. But hey, its just a football MB - no problem.


They were home against the Browns? Then we can be tougher than the Ravens! (If we can hold up against the mighty Jags.)

I'm on my IPhone. Sometimes I'm lazy because of the tiny keyboard.

At any rate, I just went through last year schedule and it didn't seem to make much difference. Teams that had to go on the road the following Thursday had a combined 7-7 or 7-8 record (I lost track a little toward the end.)

The Texans had one of those victories; the OT game against the Lions.

I'm sure the players had fun, LOL!

76Texan
04-18-2013, 11:17 PM
Hopefully that's the case, but you can never discount them. The Rams could be a good team this year. They're improving under Jeff Fisher, so that may be a tough game. Same thing with KC. I don't think they'll be playoff contenders, but they're much more talented than last year's record shows. Schedules are fun to look at since the season is still months away, but an easy schedule now may ultimately be a hard one once the season starts and vice versa.

I hear ya'; we don't take any team for granted.
I normally plan for at least a loss against some certain team that we're favored to win on paper.

Thorn
04-18-2013, 11:43 PM
I'll be asleep before the end of that damn fricking Monday night opener. I HATE late games on a work night.

TexanBacker93
04-18-2013, 11:43 PM
Damn. I don't want New England in December.

Also, am I the only one that's upset over the fact that we have to wait until 9:30 to watch the season opener??

Not only is at 9:30, but it's on Monday. That's a long wait. At least we can get a full day of watching every other game on Sunday.

Speedy
04-18-2013, 11:45 PM
As a regular tailgater I prefer prime time or at least 3 PM games. Rolling out of the rack at 7AM for the noon kickoffs isn't ideal. Except for Sept which is too hot later so noon is best then. Also prime time (even 3 PM) games are more electric and fun to attend.

Getting out that early gets you there ahead of all the people who don't like rolling out of the rack that early. Lot less hassle. And you get home much earlier as well.

Plus it's a drag waiting around for a 3:00 game much less a Sunday night or having to wait a whole extra day for a Monday nighter. I hate that. I don't like the wait even when they are on the road. That Monday night opener will be brutal. Waiting and waiting and waiting....

Rey
04-18-2013, 11:52 PM
Just going to be honest here.

When I look at that schedule I can't help but think that this will be Kubiak's and maybe schaub's last year as texans.

TexanBacker93
04-18-2013, 11:52 PM
Some home prime time games would be nice. Was hoping for a Sunday and Monday night at home. Instead only 1 of 4 prime time games at home after only 1 of 5 at home last year. Although NE on Dec 1 and Den on Dec 22 could be Sunday night flex candidates.

I thought that too, but I could also see CBS protecting those games. I think they have something along the lines of 5 games they can protect to keep from being moved to Sunday Night. Plus Denver and New England already have 5 primetime games. 3 teams are allowed 6 games so if either of them gets flexed another week they wouldn't be allowed to move. Looking at the weeks 11-16 schedules I would say that the NE-Hou and Den-Hou would be the highest profile CBS games if everyone stays at the top of their respective divisions. CBS won't give those up. Besides the week we play Denver New England visits Baltimore on NBC. I don't think the NBC would swap those games unless Baltimore just falls flat this year.

GP
04-19-2013, 12:59 AM
Just going to be honest here.

When I look at that schedule I can't help but think that this will be Kubiak's and maybe schaub's last year as texans.

That statement is not Texans Worthy.

Turn in your letter jacket.

GP
04-19-2013, 01:16 AM
That schedule looks like 8-8 or maybe 9-7 at best.

Opening on the road at what amounts to a 9:30 pm start for our guys, and it being primetime, has "L" written all over it.

Will win the next game.

Then three games in a row that are a bit scary.

Could be looking at a potential for 1-4 or 2-3 or 3-2 after the first 5 games are played. That's going to rattle a team that ended its season in New England looking like Gary's squad from his first couple of years here.

I'll say 3-2 would be a satisfactory scenario heading into week 6. Trying to stay positive, but I mean gosh...last year at this time we looked at our 2012 schedule and a lot of us nailed the predictions fairly quickly...and we ended up doing pretty much what a lot of us said we'd do. This year? No like at all.

That schedule looks rough the way it's stacked on home vs. road games and then the 3-straight games early on vs. really tough competition. Factor in that our final four games have 3 away games, ouchie.

GP
04-19-2013, 01:29 AM
Reactions to schedule:

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Malloy
04-19-2013, 02:19 AM
Interesting that 3 of the last 4 are on the road against division foes.

That's real poor planning if you ask me.

Scooter
04-19-2013, 04:41 AM
counting our tough games as automatic losses (trying to be pessimistic), i come up with at least 10 wins. i see 5-1 within the division because we get to play gabbert and locker 4 times. then predicting wins over chiefs, raiders, chargers, rams and cardinals. we'd have to melt down pretty badly to not win the division again, and even worse to miss the playoffs.

Thorn
04-19-2013, 09:34 AM
I feel confident we'll win the division again. How long we last in the playoffs is another matter entirely.

TejasTom
04-19-2013, 11:14 AM
Prediction: After blowing it last season, the Texans wrap up home-field advantage.

Record: 13-3


John McClain - Texans to open 2013 season on Monday Night Football (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/04/texans-to-open-2013-season-on-monday-night-football/#11452-16)

Losses: @Bal, @SF, @Indy

I think we drop 2 more. I don't like 3 prime time away games again. I wish the Thursday night game was right after the bye.

htownfan32
04-19-2013, 11:41 AM
John McClain - Texans to open 2013 season on Monday Night Football (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/04/texans-to-open-2013-season-on-monday-night-football/#11452-16)

Losses: @Bal, @SF, @Indy

I think we drop 2 more. I don't like 3 prime time away games again. I wish the Thursday night game was right after the bye.

Still, 11-5 is acceptable.

We could win @ Baltimore. The Ravens are not the team everyone thinks they are. @SF... we don't do well against mobile QBs. Think Cam Newton, Christian Ponder, etc.

thunderkyss
04-19-2013, 12:03 PM
Just going to be honest here.

When I look at that schedule I can't help but think that this will be Kubiak's and maybe schaub's last year as texans.

It's hard to say, McNair's got PatienceBalls the size of cannonballs. So who knows.

I know it's a .47xx schedule, but I don't like That Baltimore, SanFran, Seattle thing & I don't think the Rams are going to be a push over.

Then I'm scared of the Jacksonville, NewEngland, Jacksonville, Indy, Broncos, Titans thing to end the season. All December games. I doubt we'll go into December with 9 wins, much less 10.

Jacksonville, Dec 1st..... New England, Dec 5th... WTF?? I'd be surprised if we win 2 of the last 4.

Rey
04-19-2013, 12:10 PM
It's hard to say, McNair's got PatienceBalls the size of cannonballs. So who knows.

I know it's a .47xx schedule, but I don't like That Baltimore, SanFran, Seattle thing & I don't think the Rams are going to be a push over.

Then I'm scared of the Jacksonville, NewEngland, Jacksonville, Indy, Broncos, Titans thing to end the season. All December games. I doubt we'll go into December with 9 wins, much less 10.

Jacksonville, Dec 1st..... New England, Dec 5th... WTF?? I'd be surprised if we win 2 of the last 4.

I keep forgetting we have Ed Reed....

I think he's going to do more to have the team prepared in important games than Kubiak ever did.

HOU-TEX
04-19-2013, 12:17 PM
Still, 11-5 is acceptable.

We could win @ Baltimore. The Ravens are not the team everyone thinks they are. @SF... we don't do well against mobile QBs. Think Cam Newton, Christian Ponder, etc.

Thanks for reminding me of that game. That was a rough game to watch. Shut AP down and allow a below average QB to beat us. A real shot to the man-bag, for sure

houstonspartan
04-19-2013, 12:29 PM
We tend to fold like lawn chairs on prime time. I hope that's not the case with the upcoming season, but, our history is our history. Trying to think positive, but...

76Texan
04-19-2013, 01:25 PM
Thanks for reminding me of that game. That was a rough game to watch. Shut AP down and allow a below average QB to beat us. A real shot to the man-bag, for sure

This is where a guy like Cushing can help.
Wade was so set in containing these guys on the edges, he let them up the middle to make plays from time to time.
We need somebody with a presence in the middle to lay down the law.
One hit and they will think twice.

bobbeaux
04-19-2013, 02:47 PM
Still, 11-5 is acceptable.

We could win @ Baltimore. The Ravens are not the team everyone thinks they are. @SF... we don't do well against mobile QBs. Think Cam Newton, Christian Ponder, etc.

i believe we'll take the ravens too . . . 12-4 is very feasible . . . ;)

htownfan32
04-19-2013, 03:40 PM
Thanks for reminding me of that game. That was a rough game to watch. Shut AP down and allow a below average QB to beat us. A real shot to the man-bag, for sure

That's why I'm worried about Russell Wilson.

imatexan
04-19-2013, 04:39 PM
That schedule looks like 8-8 or maybe 9-7 at best.

Opening on the road at what amounts to a 9:30 pm start for our guys, and it being primetime, has "L" written all over it.

Will win the next game.

Then three games in a row that are a bit scary.

Could be looking at a potential for 1-4 or 2-3 or 3-2 after the first 5 games are played. That's going to rattle a team that ended its season in New England looking like Gary's squad from his first couple of years here.

I'll say 3-2 would be a satisfactory scenario heading into week 6. Trying to stay positive, but I mean gosh...last year at this time we looked at our 2012 schedule and a lot of us nailed the predictions fairly quickly...and we ended up doing pretty much what a lot of us said we'd do. This year? No like at all.

That schedule looks rough the way it's stacked on home vs. road games and then the 3-straight games early on vs. really tough competition. Factor in that our final four games have 3 away games, ouchie.


Yes last year everyone on here had us starting 11-1 :thinking:

thunderkyss
04-19-2013, 06:41 PM
That's why I'm worried about Russell Wilson.

I'm sure Russell Wilson has a few things to worry about himself. Just like Cam (Superman) Newton did. Just like Vince did, Just like Bruce Gradkowski, Just like Suan King, Just like Aaron Brooks, & a lot of other flash in the pans.

It's easy to shock everyone when no one knows who you are. Much different than when they're studying your game for weeks.

It's also difficult for people who had been successful in the past, to maintain that success. Instead of just being who they are, they try to be who they were last year, or the year before.

I'm not saying Russell Wilson is nothing to worry about, just saying he's nothing to worry about yet. We've got JjWatt, Brian Cushing, Jjo, Kjax, DMann, & Ed fk'n Reed to make things especially hard for him 12 noon @ Reliant on Sept 29.

GP
04-19-2013, 06:52 PM
Yes last year everyone on here had us starting 11-1 :thinking:

Last year, people thought we'd be 11-5 or 12-4, maybe even 13-3.

As the year wore on, the predictions looked spot-on.

I don't see the same optimism this time around. I was one touting we'd have a really nice record when the 2012 schedule rolled out, this time around with what I've seen of last year's patterns...not so much.

1.) Opening game is a trouble spot

2.) Second game is doable

3.) Next three games are definitely tough

4.) Our primetime games are always a bit shaky

5.) Late-season skid and inability to close out HFA by beating the Colts? Yep.

Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub have to do some very special things in 2013 in order for us to retain the AFC South and improve our playoff record.

Playoffs
04-19-2013, 10:30 PM
9-7

And a 'hello' http://pamibe.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-finger007.gifto the schedule maker.

Norg
04-19-2013, 11:59 PM
in the NFL every game is tough but I said that last year and some games it seemed we breezed through

Dolphins
Ravens
vs Tenn

and some games we tougher then what we thought

@ lions
vs Jags
@ jets


even the bills were a scrappy team that was in the game in the 4th qtr


so I don't know anymore !!!!!!!!!!!

tedr
04-20-2013, 11:35 AM
John McClain - Texans to open 2013 season on Monday Night Football (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/04/texans-to-open-2013-season-on-monday-night-football/#11452-16)

Losses: @Bal, @SF, @Indy

I think we drop 2 more. I don't like 3 prime time away games again. I wish the Thursday night game was right after the bye.

I think anywhere from 10-6 to 13-3 is a legitimate prediction.

To me it comes down to staying relatively healthy. If our best players are healthy come playoff time, we'll be in good shape.

Don't think everyone fully realizes what effect the loss of Cushing had last year. It's hard to lose your team MVP from the previous year and win it all. Still, we finished 12-4 and made the divisional round. Not what everyone wanted, but still darn good. I think this year will be even better.

kingtexan
04-20-2013, 01:13 PM
Just going to be honest here.

When I look at that schedule I can't help but think that this will be Kubiak's and maybe schaub's last year as texans.

If Matt struggles, and Gary keeps status-quot and leaves him in and/or keeps starting him, then you may be correct. If Schaub can do his best Trent Dilfer imitation this year then they both may be ok for the time being.

Ryan
04-20-2013, 02:22 PM
9-7

And a 'hello' http://pamibe.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-finger007.gifto the schedule maker.


We should actually be thanking him because we were supposed to play Seattle away since we played them at home in 2009.

infantrycak
04-20-2013, 05:03 PM
If Matt struggles, and Gary keeps status-quot and leaves him in and/or keeps starting him, then you may be correct. If Schaub can do his best Trent Dilfer imitation this year then they both may be ok for the time being.

This is getting ridiculous. Schaub sucking would have him looking like Dilfer. The only thing Dilfer comes close to beating Schaub in is wiping Schaub out with 49 more INT's in approximately the same number of attempts.

kingtexan
04-20-2013, 05:13 PM
This is getting ridiculous. Schaub sucking would have him looking like Dilfer. The only thing Dilfer comes close to beating Schaub in is wiping Schaub out with 49 more INT's in approximately the same number of attempts.

What I meant was his SuperBowl year. The last sentence below says it all.

From WiKi:

Baltimore Ravens

Dilfer signed with the Ravens on March 8, 2000 and became the backup for Tony Banks. After two straight losses and four straight weeks without an offensive touchdown, the Ravens replaced Banks with Dilfer. The Ravens would lose their third straight game and fail to score a touchdown for the fifth straight week. It would be the last time the Ravens would lose a game that season, or go without a touchdown. The Ravens finished the season winning seven straight to earn a wild card berth at 12-4. The 7-1 run also gave Dilfer a 45-39 record as a starter at that point.

In the playoffs, Dilfer went 3-0, and the Ravens advanced to Super Bowl XXXV in Tampa, Florida to meet the New York Giants. Halfway through the first quarter he connected with Brandon Stokley on a deep post for a 38-yard touchdown, badly beating Jason Sehorn. A third down 44-yard pass to Qadry Ismail would set up a field goal before halftime, to give Baltimore a 10-0 lead. The Ravens eventually won 34-7. Dilfer's game stats were 12 completions for 153 yards and 1 TD. Dilfer was described as a game manager quarterback for the Ravens that season: He "wasn't elite, but he didn't make costly mistakes, and was supported by a dominant defense."

infantrycak
04-20-2013, 05:34 PM
What I meant was his SuperBowl year. The last sentence below says it all.

From WiKi:

Yeah and the last sentence is just plain goofy. Dilfer threw 11 INT's in 8 games. Schaub had 12 INT's in 16 last year.

Tell me when the Texans have a D that can play four playoff games and hold their opponents to a total of 23 points.

kingtexan
04-20-2013, 05:37 PM
Tell me when the Texans have a D that can play four playoff games and hold their opponents to a total of 23 points.

If Reed makes as much of a difference as some think, and everyone else stays healthy, we may have a shot at it.

Thorn
04-20-2013, 07:15 PM
Schaub is far from elite, but he is much much better than your average QB. I'm OK with him, but I want him replaced with someone better soon.

You know, we could do worse than Schaub. Much worse.

HouTx11
04-20-2013, 07:41 PM
The Texans can definitely do worse than Schaub. But he is not the type of QB that can take charge of any game without lots of top notched players around him making big plays unless there is a heavy dose of luck involved. Everyone else must be on their A game. That is the formula for a super bowl run involving Schaub.

infantrycak
04-20-2013, 08:00 PM
. But he is not the type of QB that can take charge of any game without lots of top notched players around him making big plays unless there is a heavy dose of luck involved. Everyone else must be on their A game.

Name me one who is? - seriously. Folks say this kind of stuff all the time but the fact is big games are won by teams. No doubt it is really cool to have an elite QB but even they don't win games by themselves. Roger Staubach didn't become a worse QB nor did Terry Bradshaw become a better QB because Jackie Smith dropped a spot on pass in the end zone. At the end of the day there has to be a Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith and similar surrounding cast involved.

thunderkyss
04-21-2013, 06:52 PM
and some games we tougher then what we thought

@ lions
vs Jags
@ jets


even the bills were a scrappy team that was in the game in the 4th qtr


so I don't know anymore !!!!!!!!!!!

None of those games should have been thought of as "easy wins"

The Lions were "supposed" to be up & comers. Farley played well, Suh was still a force. Defensively they finished 13th in total D. Stafford was still slinging the ball around, CJ was doing his thing, offensively they were 3rd in total yards, just weren't capitalizing on their drives. They were losing games the way we were in 2010. A good team that just couldn't put it all together.

The Jags & us are always going to have at least one good game.

& the Jets, like the Lions couldn't get out of their own way. But before the season, no one could have known it was going to be that bad. Next year, they might be able to turn it completely around. That's not a bad club; they just had some outside issues they didn't deal with very well. Sanchez got them to the AFC Championship game twice when the run game was pulling it's weight & the defense was feared.

thunderkyss
04-21-2013, 07:02 PM
Name me one who is? - seriously. Folks say this kind of stuff all the time but the fact is big games are won by teams. No doubt it is really cool to have an elite QB but even they don't win games by themselves. Roger Staubach didn't become a worse QB nor did Terry Bradshaw become a better QB because Jackie Smith dropped a spot on pass in the end zone. At the end of the day there has to be a Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith and similar surrounding cast involved.

We saw plenty of examples of that this year. When the Patriots played us, they couldn't do no wrong. Everybody was having a good game. Welker, Vareen, Riddley, Hernandez.

Then the very next week, not so much. Brady & Co struggled in SanFran & against the Ravens. Riddley dissappeared, Woodhead was out, Welker was human, & their defense was their usual defense & not the cocked full of Spinach Defense that we faced. They stepped their games up to play us.

Peyton Manning looked like a shell of himself in January.

Aaron Rogers lost more games than Schaub did in 2012.

Before either Patriots games, we all pretty much agreed, the running game was going to have to show up..... it didn't. The defense was going to have to show up...... it didn't. & Schaub was going to have to play clean.... for the most part he did. We didn't lose to New England because Schaub sucked.

deucetx
04-22-2013, 08:47 AM
Name me one who is? - seriously. Folks say this kind of stuff all the time but the fact is big games are won by teams. No doubt it is really cool to have an elite QB but even they don't win games by themselves. Roger Staubach didn't become a worse QB nor did Terry Bradshaw become a better QB because Jackie Smith dropped a spot on pass in the end zone. At the end of the day there has to be a Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith and similar surrounding cast involved.

2010 Brees. He had average players all around him he made better. Best player around him was Marques Colston and he only had like 70 receptions for just over 1k.

2005 Brady had Corey Dillon and...? Nothing else. Not even a receiver with 60 receptions or 1k in yards. His best receiver was David Givens.

2004 Brady had nothing. Top back was Antowain Smith with 642 yards. Top receiver Deion Branch with 57 receptions for 803 yards.

It's true teams win games which is why I don't look into quarterback wins as much as the media does. But the poster was most likely speaking to the fact that some quarterbacks raise the level of play of those around them and some need more talent around them to go the next level themselves. Schaub most likely fall is in the latter group.

Not sure this aversion to just admitting Schaub is who he is. It's not like it's a bad thing for him to need more talent around him. It's as if it means he is horrible. It's not. He's just not a top tier guy. Flacco isn't and he won a Superbowl. Why? Because of an influx of more talent around him. Not a bad thing.

infantrycak
04-22-2013, 09:30 AM
2010 Brees. He had average players all around him he made better. Best player around him was Marques Colston and he only had like 70 receptions for just over 1k.

2005 Brady had Corey Dillon and...? Nothing else. Not even a receiver with 60 receptions or 1k in yards. His best receiver was David Givens.

2004 Brady had nothing. Top back was Antowain Smith with 642 yards. Top receiver Deion Branch with 57 receptions for 803 yards.

How convenient you leave off the defenses in your discussion of it being a team sport. Wait how about the game planning by the coaches as well? I thought Belichick was a genius and regularly out coached others. And here I heard Sean Payton was designing an O to get the ball all over the field.

Not sure this aversion to just admitting Schaub is who he is.

My comment was about trite truisms.

GP
04-22-2013, 09:50 AM
Matt Schaub is pretty much an average QB.

If you rank near a score of 50, according to the QBR stats (since we're supposed to be "all about the stats" around here), then you're an average QB.

For an explanation of what stats factor into a QBR ranking system, click HERE (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6833215/explaining-statistics-total-quarterback-rating).

RK/PLAYER/QBR
1 Peyton Manning 84.1
2 Tom Brady 77.1
3 Colin Kaepernick 76.8
4 Matt Ryan 74.5
5 Aaron Rodgers 72.5
6 Robert Griffin III 71.4
7 Alex Smith 70.1
8 Russell Wilson 69.6
9 Drew Brees 67.9
10 Eli Manning 67.4
11 Andrew Luck 65.0
12 Ben Roethlisberger 62.8
13 Tony Romo 62.7
14 Matt Schaub 62.6


Clutch Index
The final major step is to look at how "clutch" the situation was when creating expected points. A normal play has a clutch index of 1.0. For instance, first-and-goal from the 10-yard line in a tie game at the start of the second quarter has a clutch index of almost exactly 1.0. A more clutch situation, one late in the game when the game is close -- the same situation as above but midway through the fourth quarter, for example -- has a clutch index of about 2.0. Maximum clutch indices are about 3.0, and minimum indices are about 0.3.

These clutch index values came from an analysis of how different situations affect a game's win probability on average. One way to think of it is in terms of pressure. A clutch play is defined before the play by how close the game appears to be. Down four points with three seconds to go and facing third-and-goal from the 3-yard line -- that is a high-pressure and high-clutch index situation because the play can realistically raise the odds of winning to almost 100 percent or bring them down from about 40 percent to almost zero percent. The same situation from midfield isn't as high pressure because it's very unlikely that the team will pull out the victory. Sure, a Hail Mary can pull the game out, but if it doesn't work, the team didn't fail on that play so much as it failed before then. On third-and-goal from the 3-yard line, failure means people will be talking about that final play and what went wrong.

The clutch indices are multiplied by the quarterback's expected points on plays when the QB had a significant contribution, then divided by the sum of the clutch indices and multiplied by 100 to get a clutch-valued expected points added per 100 plays.

A Rating from 0 to 100
The final step is transforming the clutch-valued expected points rate to a number from 0 to 100. This is just a mathematical formula with no significance other than to make it easier to communicate. A value of 90 and above sounds good whether you're talking about a season, a game or just third-and-long situations; a value of four or 14 doesn't sound very good; a value of 50 is average, and that is what QBR generates for an average performance.

That being said, the top values in a season tend to be about 75 and above, whereas the top values in a game are in the upper 90s. Aaron Rodgers might have gone 31-of-36 for 366 yards, with three passing TDs, another TD running, 19 first-down conversions, and eight conversions on third or fourth down in one game -- for a single-game Total QBR of 97.2 -- but he can't keep that up all year long. Pro Bowl-level performance for a season usually means a QBR of at least 65 or 70. We don't expect to see a season with a QBR in the 90s.

GP
04-22-2013, 09:53 AM
Joe Flacco was ranked 25th in QBR.

Translation: Jacoby Jones is responsible for their Super Bowl.

Universe unraveled.

deucetx
04-22-2013, 01:53 PM
How convenient you leave off the defenses in your discussion of it being a team sport. Wait how about the game planning by the coaches as well? I thought Belichick was a genius and regularly out coached others. And here I heard Sean Payton was designing an O to get the ball all over the field.



My comment was about trite truisms.

Heh, I know you have this overly defensive thing about Schaub but I didn't conveniently leave off anything. The post you quoted was about Schaub needing pieces around him to perform better. That is offense. Not defense. Defense helps the team perform better (and win), not the quarterback except in the scales of getting the ball back to him often and in good field position. Still up to the QB and offense to do something with it...hence my post. Those guys performed offensively with little around them.

Schaub's performance is what is being pointed out to hide the issues he has in his game or make them less of an impact you need to get more playmakers/talent around him. As I said, there is nothing wrong with that. If he was a horrible quarterback then it wouldn't matter what talent you got around him, he would still find a way to not produce. That isn't the case.

You asked for one and they were named. Any point ever brought up could then have variables tossed on top of that as you are seemingly trying to do now. You didn't say 'name one with medicore coaches!'

JCTexan
04-22-2013, 02:38 PM
I don't know if this has been mentioned (haven't read every post), but having looked more thoroughly at the schedule the thing I like the most (being in Austin) is having very little conflict with the Cowboys schedule.

Weeks four & six Houston will be on Fox against Seattle & St. Louis. However, the Cowboys will have a 3:25 start time against San Diego week four and a Sunday night matchup against Washington week six.

On the CBS side: The Cowboys will have a week five matchup against Denver, while Houston will be playing on NBC.

All good until the only possible game that might not be on television. Week thirteen is the only conflict. Both Dallas & Houston will be playing on CBS at 3:25. Dallas plays Oakland, while Houston will square-off against the New England Patriots. No way the Patriots game isn't shown, right??? :gun:

The Pencil Neck
04-22-2013, 02:59 PM
Matt Schaub is pretty much an average QB.


62.6 > 50. And not just a little. "A little" would be about 4-5 points plus or minus. Therefore, Schaub is better than average and not just a little. And if this is for 2012, I don't think anyone would disagree that Schaub didn't have his greatest year. So Schaub is better than average even during a down year.

StarStruck
04-22-2013, 03:53 PM
All good until the only possible game that might not be on television. Week thirteen is the only conflict. Both Dallas & Houston will be playing on CBS at 3:25. Dallas plays Oakland, while Houston will square-off against the New England Patriots. No way the Patriots game isn't shown, right??? :gun:

There isn't a conflict on this one because Dallas plays Oakland on Thanksgiving day while Texans will be playing New England on Sunday 12/1/

JCTexan
04-22-2013, 06:42 PM
There isn't a conflict on this one because Dallas plays Oakland on Thanksgiving day while Texans will be playing New England on Sunday 12/1/

Aha! I just went through the scheduling by week and didn't even notice a difference in days. Usually 3:30 games are only on Sundays so I assumed it was a Sunday afternoon game. So no conflicts with the Cowboys. :yahoo:

gwallaia
04-22-2013, 09:44 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9196610/nfl-mailbag-schedule-makers-fairness-mind

There is a method to NFL scheduling madness. Interesting read.