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pec0sb0b
03-19-2013, 03:30 PM
Like every time a big-name player is linked with Houston and you know as soon as you hear it that it's bs. The team would make an offer matching their needs and not the player's desires/expectations, and the prima donna would move on to another sucker. I can't even count the number of wide receivers that have been rumored to be interested in the Texans over the years, and yet seemed always to sign elsewhere.

badboy
03-19-2013, 03:37 PM
Look guys, we made an offer that GM thought was reasonable and Reed left. Give him 24 hours to accept and move on. It's business. Who cares if McNair sent his jet. He did what he thought was needed.

BIG TORO
03-19-2013, 03:54 PM
Ok guys here the news you've been waiting for!!!!

I have a friend with an awesome connection, who has a source who worked with a guy , who was in school with a player that keeps in close contact with another player through twitter, and says he's friends with Ed Reeds third cousin who happens who happens to live in a nbeiboring state and drives down to see there grandma all the time and supposably a grandson was told that the Texans might have a chance, but only if the money is more than what he is worth, unless he can't find a better deal, but he still might think about it because he's friends with dre and they went to the U, but he still needs a big pay check to retire with, so he still thinking about it, according to the grandsons brother who happened to be friends with the guy writing this, which doesn't know how to use periods, or make sentences only commas, and exclamations!!!

Ok, hope that clears things up,
Can we end this thread now!

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 03:59 PM
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John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
Rick Smith and David Dunn are meeting on Ed Reed right now. They've spoken each day. Neither side has budged.

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ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 04:03 PM
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Texans offer to Ed Reed in the three-year, $4 million annual range, per league sources. Reed made $7.2 million last year. Seeking similar.

Dutchrudder
03-19-2013, 04:03 PM
John Harbaugh 'very hopeful' on signing Reed

A week ago, it looked like safety Ed Reed would never return to the Baltimore Ravens after taking a private jet to visit with the Houston Texans. Now, there's increased optimism that he could come back to Baltimore.


Ravens coach John Harbaugh told reporters Tuesday that he was "very hopeful" on the team's chances of re-signing Reed.

"On the hopeful scale I’d say it’s of high hope," Harbaugh said at the NFL owners meetings Tuesday. "It’s high on the measuring stick. We’ll just have to see how it works out.”

Contrary to previous reports, Reed is not close to a deal with the Texans, according to The Houston Chronicle. The paper is reporting the Texans offered Reed $4 million a year, which is far below his asking price of $6-$7 million per season.

Reed's agent is in the process of contacting other teams, but it seems like the Ravens would have a chance to match any offer given his ties to the team. Harbaugh has kept in contact with Reed through text messages this offseason.

"Ed and I are very close and I know he would tell you the same," Harbaugh said. "Our relationship has just blossomed. It’s been good, but this year with Ed especially, we really just got close."

Harbaugh said he doesn't feel Reed is close to making a decision. Beyond that, he's not making any prediction about Reed, only saying that he has his fingers crossed.


http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/67429/harbaugh-very-hopeful-on-signing-reed

Looks like John and Ed patched things up after the "mutiny"... lol

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 04:07 PM
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Ed Reed is trolling the hell outta the Texans and Rick Smith.

:wadepalm:

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pec0sb0b
03-19-2013, 04:09 PM
Heard that the mutiny was the reason they released Bernard Pollard.

Trap_Star
03-19-2013, 04:10 PM
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL

I'd make my day if from here going forward you begin and end each of your posts with:

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ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 04:12 PM
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If they have been meeting every day and still haven't budged, Rick Smith needs to move on.

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GP
03-19-2013, 04:13 PM
If he won't take $4 million-per...if we could even up it to $5 million-per and he'd still be wishy washy and need days to consider....then I'm ok with us pulling away and looking elsewhere.

Sometimes the best deal is the one you never made. This has become a situation of Ed looking for money and not necessarily opportunity. We don't need that in 2013, we need guys who believe we can get it done. Not looking for one last ride out of NFL City at the expense of our team's cap and roster spot(s).

I'm officially hoping we walk away and go get the other possible secondary players that fit the budget plan.

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 04:24 PM
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Greg Cosell on Ed Reed to me: 'I don't think the Ravens will push hard to get him'. I don't know if Ed is into the hometown discount.'

Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider
Greg Cosell on Ed Reed: 'I think if he gets a better offer, he'll go somewhere else.'

Lurvinator11
03-19-2013, 04:56 PM
Apparently, there are 5 pages worth of deleted material in this thread.

Ole Miss Texan
03-19-2013, 05:14 PM
Is it true Rick Smith is meeting right now with David Dunn to continue discussions?

Lets please limit all joking for a while and follow what's happening.

Texn4life
03-19-2013, 05:16 PM
Is it true Rick Smith is meeting right now with David Dunn to continue discussions?

Lets please limit all joking for a while and follow what's happening.

Apparently its true, but what is there really to discuss? He wants more than what we're willing to pay.

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 05:29 PM
Is it true Rick Smith is meeting right now with David Dunn to continue discussions?

Lets please limit all joking for a while and follow what's happening.

Ed Reed wants $7 million per year but the Texans are only willing to offer 4 million annually for 3 years.

GP
03-19-2013, 05:47 PM
Is it true Rick Smith is meeting right now with David Dunn to continue discussions?

Lets please limit all joking for a while and follow what's happening.

Based on what happened...

Maybe provide a link or paste the tweet or snippet of Internet information to help us to not make jokes of the situation.

Not trying to attack you, just saying that that's how we got to the endless joking in the first place.

Where did you hear of this? Was it on twitter or ESPN or on radio, etc.? I'm all up for new information, just curious as to where you heard it.

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 05:54 PM
John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL)
Bob McNair and Gary Kubiak said today they want Ed Reed but they're not trying to rush Rick Smith, who's negotiating with agent Dave Dunn.

John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL)
McNair on Reed: “U have 2 b cautious. We've got Cushing coming up and J.J. next year. We have 2 make sure we have enough room under our cap

Ole Miss Texan
03-19-2013, 06:06 PM
Based on what happened...

Maybe provide a link or paste the tweet or snippet of Internet information to help us to not make jokes of the situation.

Not trying to attack you, just saying that that's how we got to the endless joking in the first place.

Where did you hear of this? Was it on twitter or ESPN or on radio, etc.? I'm all up for new information, just curious as to where you heard it.

Totally hear you. Was really asking for some substantiation from someone, myself!

Heard a couple comments from McNair about being careful with cap and having to extend WAtt and Cush. Sounds like we've got our price and aren't budging.

ETA - friend told me a later responded mclane tweeter it I think??

mussop
03-19-2013, 06:19 PM
This thread has turned into ground hog day. :um:

htowntexans1985
03-19-2013, 06:22 PM
ESPN just reported the Texans offered reed 3 years/ 12 million

GP
03-19-2013, 07:16 PM
Totally hear you. Was really asking for some substantiation from someone, myself!

Heard a couple comments from McNair about being careful with cap and having to extend WAtt and Cush. Sounds like we've got our price and aren't budging.

ETA - friend told me a later responded mclane tweeter it I think??

I don't want to hear any noises that come from McClain's tweeter. :shades:

Seriously, though: I might have to start following McClain on twitter. Although I don't really follow or check twitter much anyways. I probably should in free agency and in camp during the summer.

TEXANRED
03-19-2013, 07:22 PM
I think we broke the thread. Shows 76 pages but will only load 72.

Showtime100
03-19-2013, 07:25 PM
I think we broke the thread. Shows 76 pages but will only load 72.

My settings must be different. I'm on page 29 and it shows a 30 and 31 but they aren't happening yet. :kitten:

TexanSam
03-19-2013, 07:30 PM
I think we broke the thread. Shows 76 pages but will only load 72.

Mine's doing the same

TEXANRED
03-19-2013, 07:30 PM
My settings must be different. I'm on page 29 and it shows a 30 and 31 but they aren't happening yet. :kitten:

I wonder what they are trying to hide from us? What is it the Texans don't want us to know about?

Nawzer
03-19-2013, 07:32 PM
Mine's doing the same

Same here. Visiting this thread and chuckling a few times a day has become a habit now. Lol.

drs23
03-19-2013, 07:56 PM
Same here. Visiting this thread and chuckling a few times a day has become a habit now. Lol.

Ditto....

Playoffs
03-19-2013, 08:16 PM
I think we broke the thread. Shows 76 pages but will only load 72.

My sources are telling me the janitor at Reliant Stadium has infected TT forum software with a virus which will cause Matt Turk to sign with the Texans for Ed Reed money.

amazing80
03-19-2013, 08:32 PM
My sources are telling me the janitor at Reliant Stadium has infected TT forum software with a virus which will cause Matt Turk to sign with the Texans for Ed Reed money.

LMAO rep

fudge, must spread rep

htowntexans1985
03-19-2013, 08:37 PM
NFL Media PR @
InsideNFLMedia

On @nflnetwork , when asked his gut
feeling on Ed Reed's return, Baltimore
Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti: [My gut
tells me] we have him.

DX-TEX
03-19-2013, 08:44 PM
NFL Media PR @
InsideNFLMedia

On @nflnetwork , when asked his gut
feeling on Ed Reed's return, Baltimore
Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti: [My gut
tells me] we have him.

Good. Can we call Woodson now?

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 08:48 PM
NFL Media PR @
InsideNFLMedia

On @nflnetwork , when asked his gut
feeling on Ed Reed's return, Baltimore
Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti: [My gut
tells me] we have him.

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 2m Ravens expected to meet with safety Michael Huff within the next five days, according to a league source.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 08:53 PM
Patriots not expected to make a run, according to twitter.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 08:55 PM
The Ravens are expected to bring in Oakland Raiders safety Michael Huff for a visit to team headquarters within the next five days, according to league sources with knowledge of the situation.

The Super Bowl champions are interested in Huff, a former Raiders first-round draft pick cut by Oakland prior to the start of the free agency signing period.

Other NFL teams that have made inquiries about the former University of Texas standout: the Green Bay Packers, Dallas Cowboys and Tennessee Titans.

Huff, 30, could provide Ravens a contingency plan if veteran free safety Ed Reed signs with the Houston Texans, a situation that remains up in the air with sources saying the former NFL Defensive Player of the Year nonplussed about a three-year offer worth roughly $12 million.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ravens-plan-to-meet-with-michael-huff-within-next-week-sources-say-20130319,0,3937195.story

Nawzer
03-19-2013, 08:58 PM
NFL Media PR @
InsideNFLMedia

On @nflnetwork , when asked his gut
feeling on Ed Reed's return, Baltimore
Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti: [My gut
tells me] we have him.

Please Steve Bisciotti make it happen as fast as possible so that the Texans aren't paralyzed any longer!

htowntexans1985
03-19-2013, 09:11 PM
The Texans are coming off as desperate in this ordeal. It's time for Rick smith to move on and prepare for the draft a little over a month away. Ed reed doesn't want to leave the ratbirds. Are the Texans brass to dumb to read between the lines?????

Lurvinator11
03-19-2013, 09:23 PM
I think we broke the thread. Shows 76 pages but will only load 72.

I remember someone saying this will happen if people post, but then delete their post. So I guess there are 5 pages worth of deleted posts.

CloakNNNdagger
03-19-2013, 09:27 PM
When the McClain report came out about the $4 mil per year, it was implied x 2 years. Someone on ESPN though reported that it was for 3 years.

infantrycak
03-19-2013, 09:28 PM
The Texans are coming off as desperate in this ordeal. It's time for Rick smith to move on and prepare for the draft a little over a month away. Ed reed doesn't want to leave the ratbirds. Are the Texans brass to dumb to read between the lines?????

How does making an offer and apparently sticking to it come across as desperate? This is the opposite. If they were throwing money just to make a move that would be desperate.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 09:29 PM
The Texans are coming off as desperate in this ordeal. It's time for Rick smith to move on and prepare for the draft a little over a month away. Ed reed doesn't want to leave the ratbirds. Are the Texans brass to dumb to read between the lines?????

He may not want to leave them, but he hasn't signed with them yet either. This is more about money than staying in Baltimore. He thinks he's worth more than he is at this stage in his career, and if he keeps insisting on 7 million, it's going to backfire on him something drastic. If I'm Rick, I'd bump the offer to 5 mil, but no more than that. If he keeps taking his time, I'd pull it and look elsewhere. No one has any time for this.

Lurvinator11
03-19-2013, 09:39 PM
I'm just ready for this to be over!!

Reed just needs to announce where he is going so we can all move on to yelling about the draft!!

handswarmer
03-19-2013, 10:18 PM
Mot sure where he will land= Ed is a strange bird

tru80texan
03-19-2013, 10:33 PM
He may not want to leave them, but he hasn't signed with them yet either. This is more about money than staying in Baltimore. He thinks he's worth more than he is at this stage in his career, and if he keeps insisting on 7 million, it's going to backfire on him something drastic. If I'm Rick, I'd bump the offer to 5 mil, but no more than that. If he keeps taking his time, I'd pull it and look elsewhere. No one has any time for this.

Why in the world would you compete w/ yourself? It's obvious Reed is not getting anything better then what the Texans are offering, so why up it? If he was getting something better, especially from the Ravens, chances are he would've signed or his contact w/ the Texans would be limited or over. If I was Rick I would stand pat & even might up the anty at this point by putting a deadline on the deal. Right now Reed is stringing the Texans along as other players are being signed away & creating a bigger upper hand for Reed against the Texans. Take it or leave it By a certain time & move on so the Texans can at least explore other options & get a worthy alternative IMO. At this point Reed's intentions are suspect & in the end the Texans could be stuck w/ a player who doesn't help this team.

handswarmer
03-19-2013, 10:47 PM
Texans are ony offering 3million per season less than he played for last year...no biggie deal....

Texan_Bill
03-19-2013, 10:53 PM
How does making an offer and apparently sticking to it come across as desperate? This is the opposite. If they were throwing money just to make a move that would be desperate.

Any examples of teams desperately throwing away money? ;)

*EDIT*

Yes, we can go on and on and on and on......... Meh, so much for being fiscally responsible.

Brisco_County
03-19-2013, 10:56 PM
Houston's offer was competitive. That's why no other teams have swooped in to top it.

A guy like Reed is going to need a little time to mentally adjust to the fact that he is no longer worth what he once was. It's a reality check on the ego, and it's also why McNair and Smith utilized the private jet. It's a gesture that says, "We really want you here, so no disrespect intended by this offer that is based on market value."

Reed will be ready to sign when he comes to terms with his declined value, which may not even happen until he watches his former team start working out other safety FA's.

bckey
03-19-2013, 10:59 PM
Texans are ony offering 3million per season less than he played for last year...no biggie deal....


He isn't worth what he made last season. You don't see Ozzie offering what he got last year either. Ed clearly thinks much more highly of himself than NFL teams do. The guy is past his prime. I hope he eventually signs a 1 year contract in Baltimore and retires.

Brisco_County
03-19-2013, 11:13 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider

Texans offer to Ed Reed in the three-year, $4 million annual range, per league sources. Reed made $7.2 million last year. Seeking similar

He's going to pursue $7 million while half the league has cap problems.

Ego adjustment period. When he comes out of denial, the Texans' offer will be the most attractive one left.

axman40
03-19-2013, 11:21 PM
Reed make up your mind.I for one do not care for a DB that is not certain of what he is doing.
:kitten:

TexanSam
03-19-2013, 11:22 PM
He's asking for $7 million per year? No way. If Rick Smith signs him for that amount then he deserves to be put on the hot seat.

Texan_Bill
03-19-2013, 11:22 PM
Reed make up your mind.I for one do not care for a DB that is not certain of what he is doing.
:kitten:

BOOM!!!!!!


/EndTHREAD

tru80texan
03-19-2013, 11:23 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider



He's going to pursue $7 million while half the league has cap problems.

Ego adjustment period. When he comes out of denial, the Texans' offer will be the most attractive one left.

May be the most attractive, but doesn't mean he will sign it. Lets not forget that Asomugha, by his own admission, left the most attractive deal on the table to sign w/ the Eagles whom he thought had a better chance to win it all. Who says Reed won't do the same to stay w/ the only team he has known as a pro. I believe it's time to put Reed's feet to fire & do what's best for the Texans before they are left w/ scraps.

Brisco_County
03-19-2013, 11:34 PM
May be the most attractive, but doesn't mean he will sign it. Lets not forget that Asomugha, by his own admission, left the most attractive deal on the table to sign w/ the Eagles whom he thought had a better chance to win it all. Who says Reed won't do the same to stay w/ the only team he has known as a pro. I believe it's time to put Reed's feet to fire & do what's best for the Texans before they are left w/ scraps.

Another team offered Asomugha more than $60 million?

It would make sense that Smith knew what the Ravens were willing to pay before he made his offer. The meeting was: "Here's what we think of you, here's how you fit what we do, here's what we're willing to pay you." It wasn't part of a multi bid process. It was one shot. Smith does not make that shot unless he knows what cards the other players are holding.

TexanSam
03-19-2013, 11:35 PM
As long as this is taking, my gut tells me Ed Reed either goes back to the Ravens or retires.

tru80texan
03-19-2013, 11:44 PM
Another team offered Asomugha more than $60 million?

It would make sense that Smith knew what the Ravens were willing to pay before he made his offer. The meeting was: "Here's what we think of you, here's how you fit what we do, here's what we're willing to pay you." It wasn't part of a multi bid process. It was one shot. Smith does not make that shot unless he knows what cards the other players are holding.

It's been discussed on here recently & links were provided where Asomugha was quoted as saying he left more money on the table from another team, rumored to have possibly been the Texans, to sign w/ the Eagles because he felt they could win it all. Hardly new news there.

As far as Smith knowing what the Ravens are doing...I have my doubts on that. Smith may know their salary cap issues & could speculate what they are willing to offer, but I doubt he knows how much a team values each player. It's seems obvious Reed is still trying to get more players involved & he still isn't getting what he wants so I believe all it takes is slight bump up by the Ravens & he is back home IMO. Time will tell, but the more time that is wasted leads to a higher probability that the Texans will be left w/ very limited alternatives if Reed chooses to stay a Raven. It's time to move on real soon IMO.

GNTLEWOLF
03-20-2013, 02:29 AM
I'm pretty amazed that we have spent so much time and ink on this thread. I believe most of us doubted this would be a deal that could get done when we heard about it. And now that things have transpired the way they have it looks more and more like this was yet one more Texans pipe dream. Should be no surprise or disappointment we have seen this scenerio played out at least two or three times before. Reed is not coming here.

SCOTTexans
03-20-2013, 08:32 AM
Everytime i get on this MB i am forced to look at this thread, getting a new page added every hr you would think there would be some new info about the potential signing.... but no its just pages and pages of useless assumptions and uncreditable sources.

:toropalm:

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 09:09 AM
Reed just wants the ravens to stroke his ego. He will take less money to return to the ravens when its all said and Done. He has ratbird DNA embedded in him!

Señor Stan
03-20-2013, 09:28 AM
I'm pretty amazed that we have spent so much time and ink on this thread. I believe most of us doubted this would be a deal that could get done when we heard about it. And now that things have transpired the way they have it looks more and more like this was yet one more Texans pipe dream. Should be no surprise or disappointment we have seen this scenerio played out at least two or three times before. Reed is not coming here.

Dude, we are not even close to Moulds thread territory. Not to mention the Nnamdi Asomugha thread from a couple years back.

I'm still upset that I had to learn to spell Nnamdi Asomugha....

Double Barrel
03-20-2013, 11:30 AM
Reed just wants the ravens to stroke his ego. He will take less money to return to the ravens when its all said and Done. He has ratbird DNA embedded in him!

yep. This is what I believe, as well. The Texans had the stink of desperation on this one. Reed is playing Houston to sweeten a deal with Baltimore. I won't speculate if he was seriously interested in coming here, but it would not surprise me at all if he never had any intention of being a Houston Texan.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 11:35 AM
yep. This is what I believe, as well. The Texans had the stink of desperation on this one. Reed is playing Houston to sweeten a deal with Baltimore. I won't speculate if he was seriously interested in coming here, but it would not surprise me at all if he never had any intention of being a Houston Texan.

Baltimore is playing Reed too. If they sign Huff, then Reed isnt going back.

Dutchrudder
03-20-2013, 11:44 AM
Baltimore is playing Reed too. If they sign Huff, then Reed isnt going back.

They aren't signing Huff until Reed decides. They are just using Huff to lower the price on Reed. Huff would cost what, maybe 2-3m a year? They are going to say to Reed's agent, "we can get Huff for 2.5m a year for 2 years, but we're willing to give you 9m for 2 years." Give him one last chance and force him to decide. Right now, the Ravens haven't shut the door on Reed, so he's still hoping he can get more out of them.

NitroGSXR
03-20-2013, 11:50 AM
They aren't signing Huff until Reed decides. They are just using Huff to lower the price on Reed. Huff would cost what, maybe 2-3m a year? They are going to say to Reed's agent, "we can get Huff for 2.5m a year for 2 years, but we're willing to give you 9m for 2 years." Give him one last chance and force him to decide. Right now, the Ravens haven't shut the door on Reed, so he's still hoping he can get more out of them.

I'd like for the Texans to sign somebody before Reed signs with the Ravens. Or at least formally announce that we are no longer interested. Whatever it takes to help the Ravens stick it to him and lowball him.

:fireball:

(Not really as I think he'll be a good addition here)

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 12:02 PM
They aren't signing Huff until Reed decides. They are just using Huff to lower the price on Reed. Huff would cost what, maybe 2-3m a year? They are going to say to Reed's agent, "we can get Huff for 2.5m a year for 2 years, but we're willing to give you 9m for 2 years." Give him one last chance and force him to decide. Right now, the Ravens haven't shut the door on Reed, so he's still hoping he can get more out of them.

Then the Texans need to start meeting with other free agents like Baltimore is doing. Reed thinks he holds all the leverage because the Texans havent met with anyone else.

Rey
03-20-2013, 12:18 PM
I don't see how the texans are desperate. They are courting a guy they want. They aren't openly bending over backwards and giving in to his every desire...

Do they want reed?

Sure.

But that doesn't mean they're desperate.

When you are going after someone you like and you do nice things for them that doesn't make them desperate. Just means you like them.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-20-2013, 12:20 PM
I am not protecting Reed or anything but, football is player's profession right? Just like you and I almost all of us have job (some maybe already retired or some are student and do not have a permanent job) whatever that occupation would be. What I am trying to say is don't we all try to make much income as possible to have a good life? This is what Reed is doing. Trying to maximize his income while he can as he is nearing an end of his career.

Our FO invited him to come to Houston for contract negotiation and Reed came here to see what Texans' FO got to offer and an offer he received wasn't what Reed expected. So naturally, Reed was interested in other option to see if there's better offer out there and at the same time, he can figure out his current value. Once all he sees all the cards, he will choose his preferable team. Especially this would be Reed's last dance and I can understand he wants to make sure to see every available option.

You see, buyers like bargain and sellers like more profits. It is all business.

ObsiWan
03-20-2013, 12:24 PM
I don't see how the texans are desperate. They are courting a guy they want. They aren't openly bending over backwards and giving in to his every desire...

Do they want reed?

Sure.

But that doesn't mean they're desperate.

When you are going after someone you like and you do nice things for them that doesn't make them desperate. Just means you like them.

I agree. And if the reports of the 3-yr, 12 mil offer are accurate, that's a good deal for us... especially if that 3rd year is optional.

but, personally, I'd just as soon spend the cash on Dumervil....

...or maybe Brandon Lloyd...

tru80texan
03-20-2013, 12:34 PM
Then the Texans need to start meeting with other free agents like Baltimore is doing. Reed thinks he holds all the leverage because the Texans havent met with anyone else.

I agree 100%. This will at least allow the Texans an opportunity to show others they are interested & take the ball out of Reed's court some. It seems he's holding up the process in hopes of getting something better & the Texans seem to be allowing it as other options are being signed away. Baltimore seems to be doing the smart thing by having other options ready while the Texans FO is...well...being the Texans.

otisbean
03-20-2013, 12:42 PM
I agree 100%. This will at least allow the Texans an opportunity to show others they are interested & take the ball out of Reed's court some. It seems he's holding up the process in hopes of getting something better & the Texans seem to be allowing it as other options are being signed away. Baltimore seems to be doing the smart thing by having other options ready while the Texans FO is...well...being the Texans.

The Texans did the very thing you're criticizing them for not doing with Namdi, whose to say they're not doing it again right now with Reed? Many fans complained they were putting all their eggs in one basket with Namdi then out of the blue we signed JJoseph and Manning. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened here. Despite what many here think Smith isn't stupid

michaelm
03-20-2013, 12:43 PM
I'll be happy when this thread drops off the first page...


:swatter:

76Texan
03-20-2013, 12:50 PM
The Texans did the very thing you're criticizing them for not doing with Namdi, whose to say they're not doing it again right now with Reed? Many fans complained they were putting all their eggs in one basket with Namdi then out of the blue we signed JJoseph and Manning. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened here. Despite what many here think Smith isn't stupid

I think it's only normal to be impatient.
After all, people just want to see their team get better.

A GM is going to be criticized no matter what; it goes with the territory.

IDEXAN
03-20-2013, 12:54 PM
I agree. And if the reports of the 3-yr, 12 mil offer are accurate, that's a good deal for us... especially if that 3rd year is optional.

but, personally, I'd just as soon spend the cash on Dumervil....

...or maybe Brandon Lloyd...
They are all optional for us, but not for Reed. The only thing that's not optional for us is the guaranteed coin, and don't know how much of that 12 M is guaranteed ?

otisbean
03-20-2013, 12:56 PM
I think it's only normal to be impatient.
After all, people just want to see their team get better.

A GM is going to be criticized no matter what; it goes with the territory.

Agreed. Hell, I want us to pick up some players to fill some needs as well. I just think fans should wait until the process is over to criticize the FO

tru80texan
03-20-2013, 01:02 PM
The Texans did the very thing you're criticizing them for not doing with Namdi, whose to say they're not doing it again right now with Reed? Many fans complained they were putting all their eggs in one basket with Namdi then out of the blue we signed JJoseph and Manning. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened here. Despite what many here think Smith isn't stupid

I'm hoping you are right, but have you read anywhere that another FA has been contacted or on a visit here. I know I haven't. FA visits or contact w/ them is hardly top secret. Its normally reported on who is talking to whom & that simply isn't happening much w/ the Texans. It could be happening again & time will tell, but I don't think missing on Reed while other quality safeties are signed away & going to a fallback option such as Sensabaugh is a grand master plan that falls in line w/ the JJo Manning signings.

Brisco_County
03-20-2013, 01:02 PM
I'm still upset that I had to learn to spell Nnamdi Asomugha....

But it brings you one step closer to being a citizen of the world.

badboy
03-20-2013, 01:06 PM
Wished we could sign a couple FA at other positions like ILB and Nose.

tru80texan
03-20-2013, 01:14 PM
Wished we could sign a couple FA at other positions like ILB and Nose.

I don't think they consider NT a need as far as a starter. I think they believe Mitchell can be just as effective as Cody & they were satisfied w/ Cody for the last few seasons. Not saying I agree, but I do think Mitchell can at least equal Cody's production if not produce slightly more.

I also believe that they believe a healthy Sharpton could be a decent option at ILB. I like Sharpton when he is healthy, but he seems to be bit by the injury bug quite often. I dont trust his health & wish they would look at other options as well, but this is the same group that thought James was a worthy starter so going in w/ an injury prone Sharpton wouldn't surprise me.

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 01:32 PM
I agree 100%. This will at least allow the Texans an opportunity to show others they are interested & take the ball out of Reed's court some.

I really find it odd that Woodson hasn't come in yet. I thought he was scheduled for Friday (thought I heard/read that somewhere).

We should at least announce that Woodson is scheduled to come in this week & Bob is fueling up the jet.

Tell Reed to sh1t, or get off the pot.

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 01:38 PM
I think it's only normal to be impatient.
After all, people just want to see their team get better.

A GM is going to be criticized no matter what; it goes with the territory.

No, I think the big difference here, is that Reed is not the top rated safety available, Nnamdi was the top CB.

No one was signing the other top CBs before Nnamdi, Ike Taylor was still out there, Jjoseph was still out there, & there was someone else.

As soon as we signed Jjoseph, it seemed the dominoes started to fall & the other corners started signing.

This time, the fans aren't even expecting the top safety, they'd have been happy with Huff, Landry and a few others who were already signed.... Quin. We're giving Reed, & even Woodson if it comes to that, the benefit of the doubt, even though they're older than dirt (apparently there's a bunch of 34 year old dirt out there).

So, I don't think it's impatient, all the decent talent is being signed while we wait.

badboy
03-20-2013, 01:39 PM
I don't think they consider NT a need as far as a starter. I think they believe Mitchell can be just as effective as Cody & they were satisfied w/ Cody for the last few seasons. Not saying I agree, but I do think Mitchell can at least equal Cody's production if not produce slightly more.

I also believe that they believe a healthy Sharpton could be a decent option at ILB. I like Sharpton when he is healthy, but he seems to be bit by the injury bug quite often. I dont trust his health & wish they would look at other options as well, but this is the same group that thought James was a worthy starter so going in w/ an injury prone Sharpton wouldn't surprise me.
Mitchel could not beat out Cody with his back injuries and even when Cody went out with the ribs, he was rushed back to replace Mitchell. As I noted on another thread I think Phillips is okay with Mitchell starting. Not comparing my knowledge to Wade but think he is wrong. Agree with you on SHarpton who cannot stay on field.

ASidd_1990
03-20-2013, 01:49 PM
Mitchel could not beat out Cody with his back injuries and even when Cody went out with the ribs, he was rushed back to replace Mitchell. As I noted on another thread I think Phillips is okay with Mitchell starting. Not comparing my knowledge to Wade but think he is wrong. Agree with you on SHarpton who cannot stay on field.

Let Cody walk trade up for Jessie Williams. Dude is a gamechanger at the NT position.

The Pencil Neck
03-20-2013, 02:00 PM
I don't see anything desperate in the way the FO is handling this.

The FANS are the desperate ones here. They're the ones getting jittery because no one has been signed, yet.

Our FO? Cool. Doesn't appear to be worried at all. Methodical. Taking its time. If our FO was desperate, we would have already caved in to get Reed here. We would have offered him 7 mil a year for 3 years and he would have taken that back to the Ravens to say, "See? I am highly valued around the league" and then he would have accepted less money to play with the Ravens.

There's still a long time to go and a lot of moves to be made. Personally, if it's down between Woodson and Reed, I'd probably go Woodson. I'm just not sure how much more Reed's got in the tank and I think Woodson has more to give.

Craig.
03-20-2013, 02:05 PM
I'm just not sure how much more Reed's got in the tank and I think Woodson has more to give.

You realize Woodson is older than Reed, right?

The Pencil Neck
03-20-2013, 02:20 PM
You realize Woodson is older than Reed, right?

Yes.

I think Woodson could give us 1 good year. I don't think Reed has a full year left in him.

Either way, I expect us to draft a safety and I expect that safety to be starting in 2014. I don't think we're signing either Woodson or Reed expecting them to play longer than a year.

badboy
03-20-2013, 02:32 PM
Yes.

I think Woodson could give us 1 good year. I don't think Reed has a full year left in him.

Either way, I expect us to draft a safety and I expect that safety to be starting in 2014. I don't think we're signing either Woodson or Reed expecting them to play longer than a year.Curious as to how you decided Reed has only part of a season left in him? He had a very decent 2012.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 02:55 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
#Ravens are very pessimistic about the possibility of keeping FA Ed Reed, I'm told. Belief is he wants $4M per year. Doubtful they do that

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 02:59 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 1m Ed Reed yet to make a final decision, but Texans continued their push for him during league meetings. Strong offer and interest

ASidd_1990
03-20-2013, 03:06 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
Ed Reed yet to make a final decision, but Texans continued their push for him during league meetings. Strong offer and interest. Expectation was Reed would make a decision today, but no one will rush him. About to hop on flight out of Phoenix. will update if I can

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 03:07 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 3m Expectation was Reed would make a decision today, but no one will rush him. About to hop on flight out of Phoenix. will update if I can

ASidd_1990
03-20-2013, 03:13 PM
Whats going with this thread?

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 03:20 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 49s My understanding of the Ed Reed situation: He'll have to take less money to return to #Ravens. #Texans offering more than Baltimore.

tru80texan
03-20-2013, 03:20 PM
Ed Reed - DB - Ravens
NFL.com reports the Ravens are "very pessimistic" about re-signing free agent Ed Reed.
Per reporter Ian Rapoport, the "belief" is that Reed is now seeking $4 million per year, but that it's "doubtful" the Ravens meet that price. $4 million is believed to be what the Texans are offering, so it could be only a matter of time before Reed stops peddling his wares and takes his talents his Houston.
Related: Texans
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Mar 20 - 2:50 PM

Hopefully this drama comes to end soon & the Texans can possibly look into other areas of concern. "Hopefully" being the key word.:spin:

BigB0iFresh
03-20-2013, 03:21 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m
My understanding of the Ed Reed situation: He'll have to take less money to return to #Ravens. #Texans offering more than Baltimore.
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ASidd_1990
03-20-2013, 03:26 PM
So the Ravens were offering him a deal less than $4 million/per year?

If that's the case, welcome to Houston, Ed Reed!

silvrhand
03-20-2013, 03:32 PM
I can't argue with that number to me that's a good number for Ed, depending on what we have for a bonus up front to not have any dead money if we have to exit the contract.

- John

Ole Miss Texan
03-20-2013, 03:36 PM
I would be very supportive of the 3 year 12 million deal being floated around. Would like to know the guaranteed portion and years 1-2 pmt/cap hits. I'd be very pleased with this and the ability to cut him after year 2 with little cap ramifications.

Still crossing fingers. Love how Rick and Olsen are holding firm.

The Pencil Neck
03-20-2013, 03:50 PM
Curious as to how you decided Reed has only part of a season left in him? He had a very decent 2012.

I didn't think he had that good of a 2012. Although he had plays here and there, he wasn't as consistent or nearly as good as he'd been in previous seasons.

rolyat93
03-20-2013, 03:51 PM
Is anyone else getting a listing for 80 pages but the current one is 75?

The Pencil Neck
03-20-2013, 03:53 PM
Is anyone else getting a listing for 80 pages but the current one is 75?

Yeah. Someone said it's related to deleted posts.

76Texan
03-20-2013, 04:17 PM
I didn't think he had that good of a 2012. Although he had plays here and there, he wasn't as consistent or nearly as good as he'd been in previous seasons.

What matters the most is his plays in the play-offs, when the chips are down.

To be brutally honest, the regular season is all about getting your feet into the door.

Get to the big dance and let's see who has the quickest feet.

76Texan
03-20-2013, 04:20 PM
Basically, what I'm saying is that we should use different pieces differently.
Save the best for last if your ultimate goal is the Lombardi.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 04:33 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 1m Source says it's 'heating up' for Ed Reed as far as decision time. Could be in next day or so.

Señor Stan
03-20-2013, 04:36 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 1m Source says it's 'heating up' for Ed Reed as far as decision time. Could be in next day or so.

Sincerely,

Six days ago

ItsMyFault
03-20-2013, 04:38 PM
Can Ed just sign already? Either with the Texans or somewhere else but end this madness. This is getting ridiculous.

Rey
03-20-2013, 04:41 PM
I don't get the constant fretting. Are people really sitting around smoking cigs and biting their nails over this?

Relax.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 04:49 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 7m As far as Ed Reed, Texans are still regarded as the frontrunner. Fluid situation, and always hard to predict as he reflects on big decision

badboy
03-20-2013, 05:30 PM
I don't get the constant fretting. Are people really sitting around smoking cigs and biting their nails over this?

Relax.I think it's the ownership of the Texans by fans. Sort of like asking a pretty girl to marry you and she wants some time to think. Many of us would move on but others will impatiently wait her answer. Hard to plan your life until she decides or you move on. As Reed impacts my mock, I too want an answer.

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 05:41 PM
I don't get the constant fretting. Are people really sitting around smoking cigs and biting their nails over this?

Relax.

uh...

:tinfoil:

Of course not. I've got stuff going on. Maybe not right now....


But later.

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 05:45 PM
This thread ------------>. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdyk9evsAL1qesq6u.gif

ObsiWan
03-20-2013, 06:17 PM
uh...

:tinfoil:

Of course not. I've got stuff going on. Maybe not right now....


But later.

Can't you see I'm busy answering Ed Reed questions
http://www.athletepromotions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Arian-Foster-Appearance.jpg

TheMatrix31
03-20-2013, 06:56 PM
LaCanfora says Reed's financial advisor says it's basically done barring a few minor details.

YES!

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 06:58 PM
Jason La Canfora @
JasonLaCanfora

Future Hall of Fame safety Ed Reed has
agreed to terms with the Texans,
ending his Ravens career.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 06:59 PM
Jason La Canfora ✔ @JasonLaCanfora

Future Hall of Fame safety Ed Reed has agreed to terms with the Texans, ending his Ravens career.

BIG TORO
03-20-2013, 06:59 PM
Finally! Done deal.

Vance87
03-20-2013, 07:00 PM
Oh snap!! I hope it wasn't for too much.

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 07:01 PM
Jason La Canfora @
JasonLaCanfora

While there were reports of Reed
getting in the $4 million range, I would
not be surprised at all if its closer to $
6M per year

RipTraxx
03-20-2013, 07:09 PM
Good news: We got reed
Bad news: This changes the whole draft strategy. (i still like Hopkins from Clemson)

ItsMyFault
03-20-2013, 07:11 PM
Is it really for 6M/yr?

RipTraxx
03-20-2013, 07:12 PM
Is it really for 6M/yr?

Andre must have done some SERIOUS restructuring.

Rey
03-20-2013, 07:12 PM
Awesome news. Awesome f'ing news.

phantom17
03-20-2013, 07:12 PM
Finally! Maybe some swagger for a change, & game changer! :hurrah:

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 07:13 PM
Oh snap!! I hope it wasn't for too much.

Sounds like 5.5 per year for two years.

TdotTexas2Step
03-20-2013, 07:13 PM
Pretty pumped up about this. Anything to keep up with the aerial attacks we typically struggle against.

toronto
03-20-2013, 07:16 PM
Needless to say, a very important move by your team

Heath Shuler
03-20-2013, 07:16 PM
Good news. I hope we didnt overpay.

Señor Stan
03-20-2013, 07:17 PM
Way to go Rick!

Hope Ed has a chip on his shoulder vs the Ravens, Brady, Manning....

DX-TEX
03-20-2013, 07:19 PM
Way to go Rick!

Hope Ed has a chip on his shoulder vs the Ravens, Brady, Manning....

Texans @ Ravens to kick off season. Make it happen Stan!

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 07:21 PM
Baltimore native lacanfora taking this loss hard

@JasonLaCanfora NOBODY as classy
as Ed Reed man. Played fair, never
wanted to hurt anybody always smiled
and was never a bad guy to anybody.

EllisUnit
03-20-2013, 07:21 PM
Hell to the yeah, now lets get a #2, a NT and someone to play along side cushing (I hope ruud) but for those who think our team is less competitive now, i beg to differ. And with KW gone it means we can get a play maker at #2. I am feeling really good about this upcoming season !!!!

Rey
03-20-2013, 07:24 PM
Somebody post Cushings tweet about it....he's pumped...

DX-TEX
03-20-2013, 07:26 PM
Somebody post Cushings tweet about it....he's pumped...

I see no tweet from Cush

G27RR
03-20-2013, 07:26 PM
Somebody post Cushings tweet about it....he's pumped...

Do you mean this?

In a separate text to Breer, Texans linebacker Brian Cushing wrote "Wow -- So pumped. Playing with a guy I grew up idolizing."

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000152356/

EllisUnit
03-20-2013, 07:27 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000152356/article/ed-reed-says-he-plans-to-join-houston-texans

Playoffs
03-20-2013, 07:28 PM
Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli 1m
"Finally to be on the same team, and be in the db room with him, I definitely grew up looking up to him. I still do." Kareem on Reed #Texans

#Texans CB Kareem Jackson on Ed Reed: "I grew up watching him, he was on one of my favorite college teams growing up..."

Rey
03-20-2013, 07:29 PM
Yeah that...my bad...was watching CSN and saw it on the screen and thought it was a tweet

sandman
03-20-2013, 07:30 PM
And with KW gone it means we can get a play maker at #2.

KW being here never prevented the team from getting a playmaker at #2.

KW not being here is no guarantee that they will get a playmaker at #2.

EllisUnit
03-20-2013, 07:31 PM
Good news. I hope we didnt overpay.

i said more than 4 was overpaying the reports i'm hearing is 6 a year. So how much cap does that leave us with

DX-TEX
03-20-2013, 07:34 PM
#Texans CB Kareem Jackson on Ed Reed: "I grew up watching him, he was on one of my favorite college teams growing up..."

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/MechDX/DuoPalm.jpg

False Start
03-20-2013, 07:35 PM
Sweeeeet! :smiliedance:

EllisUnit
03-20-2013, 07:35 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9077033/reports-ed-reed-sign-houston-texans

hmm here it says 4 a year,,,,,,

EllisUnit
03-20-2013, 07:37 PM
KW being here never prevented the team from getting a playmaker at #2.

KW not being here is no guarantee that they will get a playmaker at #2.

Well then why didnt we ?? Appears to me Kubiak had a mancrush on KW now he has no choice.

Fili
03-20-2013, 07:37 PM
Going to be so weird seeing Reed on our team, but I'm not complaining.

The Cush
03-20-2013, 07:38 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9077033/reports-ed-reed-sign-houston-texans

hmm here it says 4 a year,,,,,,

That was actually an old article that they just changed the title on.

Lurvinator11
03-20-2013, 07:38 PM
i heard it was 2 years for 7 mil.

aussie_texan
03-20-2013, 07:41 PM
In a separate text to Breer, Texans linebacker Brian Cushing wrote, "Wow -- So pumped. Playing with a guy I grew up idolizing."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000152356/article/ed-reed-says-he-plans-to-join-houston-texans

SCOTTexans
03-20-2013, 07:43 PM
Awesome... and so glad this is on a different thread

TEXANRED
03-20-2013, 07:45 PM
Why are there two threads on this? I wanna see this thread at 100K views and 2k posts!

TheMatrix31
03-20-2013, 07:47 PM
Finally! Maybe some swagger for a change, & game changer! :hurrah:

Yeah because guys like Brian Cushing and JJ Watt definitely don't have "swagger", lol.

TexansBull
03-20-2013, 07:48 PM
Good signing for the organization as a whole. Leadership added, but there are definitely risks taken for such an experienced player signed. Is it the typical aged veteran player signing a fat contract to get paid that won't get fulfilled? Or will he perform at the level we expect? Time will only tell.


Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Board Express

bckey
03-20-2013, 07:48 PM
In a separate text to Breer, Texans linebacker Brian Cushing wrote, "Wow -- So pumped. Playing with a guy I grew up idolizing."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000152356/article/ed-reed-says-he-plans-to-join-houston-texans

That right there gets me pumped. If Cush is pumped look out!

Wolf
03-20-2013, 07:50 PM
Interesting

the wonger need food
03-20-2013, 07:51 PM
Still one of the best in the league and this move changes the entire complexion of the defense if he can stay healthy. Paying for his leadership as much as his skill. Now let's go get a veteran ILB to pair with Cushing and a decent NT.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-20-2013, 07:51 PM
Like I've been saying. It is all about business. Hope, Reed give us Swagger to our team and help us take further into post season. Nice work Rick!!!

Go Texans!!!

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 07:54 PM
Well then why didnt we ?? Appears to me Kubiak had a mancrush on KW now he has no choice.

Again, we've been heavily investing in defense. Our offensive stars, other than AJ who was already on the team, Duane Brown, whom they took their time finding, & Ben Tate, who hasn't really paid off the way they'd hoped.... we were going to have to find value players that we could develop.

OD, a 4th rounder, Chris Myers cost us a 6th, Arian Foster was undrafted.....

We simply couldn't find a value player that could outplay KW. JJ didn't work, LeStar can't stay healthy, Dickerson didn't work out, Andre Davis didn't work out, Moulds didn't work out. Posey tore his achilles.

It sucks that we didn't draft Victor Cruz, it sucks that Kubiak won't give a rookie like T Y Hilton that kind of an opportunity, but it is what it is.

TheMatrix31
03-20-2013, 07:54 PM
That right there gets me pumped. If Cush is pumped look out!

That's it right here.

Reed coming aboard will pump the **** out of everybody on defense.

bshep86
03-20-2013, 07:57 PM
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDD.

Totally getting a jersey once they come out, and wearing it every Sunday around Baltimore. Love it!

Playoffs
03-20-2013, 07:58 PM
Well, our DBs have one or two years to soak every bit of football knowledge out of one of the best ever.

Reed will show, by example, how to prepare for a game. I imagine none of our guys have seen what he will model for them.

Get your school hats on, boys!

SAMURAITEXAN
03-20-2013, 08:03 PM
Until He signs on contract, anything can still happen but, I bet Dre is flipping with joy right now.

Go Texans!!!

Brisco_County
03-20-2013, 08:05 PM
I should have put money on this. Actually, no, my karma would've screwed us all.

We just bought a whole lot of football IQ for our backfield.

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 08:06 PM
Is anyone else super hyped about this? Reed, manning, , K. Jack, J. Jo. In our backfield????? Cushing, The Ninja, And WATT IN THE BOX!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ!!!!!

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 08:07 PM
Yeah because guys like Brian Cushing and JJ Watt definitely don't have "swagger", lol.

Ain't no Shiite. But it's nice to have that swag in the back end.

I am PUMPED! This guy is not scared of big games Prime time or playoffs. He is the calming factor on our young defense.

Like I said you want Shiloh or Reed starting next year?

ATXtexanfan
03-20-2013, 08:08 PM
Still one of the best in the league and this move changes the entire complexion of the defense if he can stay healthy. Paying for his leadership as much as his skill. Now let's go get a veteran ILB to pair with Cushing and a decent NT.

True true very true. ILB and NT gotta have before the draft

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 08:11 PM
Let's just draft all defense in the draft. Ain't no one scoring on us. :swatter:

TEXANRED
03-20-2013, 08:13 PM
Is anyone else super hyped about this? Reed, manning, , K. Jack, J. Jo. In our backfield????? Cushing, The Ninja, And WATT IN THE BOX!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ!!!!!

I dont think we can fit Jesus Christ under the cap.

CretorFrigg
03-20-2013, 08:13 PM
I did not see this coming.

stingray
03-20-2013, 08:14 PM
I just hope he doesnt turn into the eric moulds of the texans defense.

Playoffs
03-20-2013, 08:15 PM
Um, wow.

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 2m
Jameel McClain on Ed Reed: 'But more importantly he is one of the greatest men I have had the chance to encounter.'

Jameel McClain told me: 'Ed Reed is the greatest safety to play this game.'

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 08:15 PM
I dont think we can fit Jesus Christ under the cap.

Jesus my gardener will work for pennies on the dollar. Lol. Jk.

Hervoyel
03-20-2013, 08:16 PM
What we got for our money is a leader and a playmaker for the secondary to go with JJo. At LB we have Cushing and hopefully Mercilus doing that, on the line we got Watt and sometimes Smith but to be honest we need one more "force" in there, preferably at NT.

Find a beast NT in the draft, maybe another ILB and the defense isn't going to get any better than that.

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 08:18 PM
I know Ed Reed is probably washed up.

I know Quin would have been the smarter deal in the long run.

I know we overpaid for Ed Reed, it's free agency right?

But I'm smiling right now. I'm extremely happy.

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:18 PM
See...I told y'all. Once El Chupacabra picked him up and met up Hoffa, 2Pac, and Elvis at Benihana's he would sign. My sources are never wrong. #Championship!

Jules Winnfield
03-20-2013, 08:20 PM
i dont like it.

6 mil a year for a shot, past prime player is not financially wise move. Not only that, Reed's strength is zone coverage, now he's gonna be playing a lot of man coverage due to wade's man to man scheme which is not his strong suit.

Its like the texans trying to make up all the loses we had in free agency by overpaying a past prime star.

Predictably, everybody eats it up because its a star player and all those loses in free agency are forgotten and all is ok.

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:22 PM
I dont think we can fit Jesus Christ under the cap.

I think so. It's only a carpenter's salary...and bread and wine.:handshake:

BullNation4Life
03-20-2013, 08:22 PM
i dont like it.

6 mil a year for a shot, past prime player is not financially wise move.

Who said 6 mil a year? I have been reading it was 3 years, 4 mill per...

I could live with that....

Nawzer
03-20-2013, 08:24 PM
R.I.P. to "Ed Reed to visit Texans" thread. Thank you providing me with a week of entertainment. I will miss you.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-20-2013, 08:25 PM
i dont like it.

6 mil a year for a shot, past prime player is not financially wise move. Not only that, Reed's strength is zone coverage, now he's gonna be playing a lot of man coverage due to wade's man to man scheme which is not his strong suit.

Its like the texans trying to make up all the loses we had in free agency by overpaying a past prime star.

Predictably, everybody eats it up because its a star player and all those loses in free agency are forgotten and all is ok.

If I were you, I would hold my judgement on Reed. Let's see how he does with us this coming season.

Nawzer
03-20-2013, 08:25 PM
Welcome Ed Reed. Don't screw up.

drs23
03-20-2013, 08:26 PM
Who said 6 mil a year? I have been reading it was 3 years, 4 mill per...

I could live with that....

In answer to your question, no one. But then, consider the source.

Section516
03-20-2013, 08:27 PM
We play 3 safeties so much, we can still draft one in the early rounds, although I'd say WR is need #1

dc_txtech
03-20-2013, 08:28 PM
i dont like it.

6 mil a year for a shot, past prime player is not financially wise move. Not only that, Reed's strength is zone coverage, now he's gonna be playing a lot of man coverage due to wade's man to man scheme which is not his strong suit.

Its like the texans trying to make up all the loses we had in free agency by overpaying a past prime star.

Predictably, everybody eats it up because its a star player and all those loses in free agency are forgotten and all is ok.

Predictably Jules Winnfield disagrees with everybody.

Could get us over the top, could be a flop, just gotta see how it plays out man.

drs23
03-20-2013, 08:28 PM
I think so. It's only a carpenter's salary...and bread and wine.:handshake:

Just give bread -n- water. He can make his own wine. :kitten:

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 08:31 PM
i dont like it.

6 mil a year for a shot, past prime player is not financially wise move. Not only that, Reed's strength is zone coverage, now he's gonna be playing a lot of man coverage due to wade's man to man scheme which is not his strong suit.

Its like the texans trying to make up all the loses we had in free agency by overpaying a past prime star.

Predictably, everybody eats it up because its a star player and all those loses in free agency are forgotten and all is ok.

So you want to start Keo? Or sign Huff? Or a rookie?

Look deal in reality. GQ is GONE. By by. Adios. Not an option. Look at the intangibles.
You think Reed is scared of Brady and the Pats?
You think Reed is scared of Manning and the Broncos?

Hellllllllllllllllllll no!

Hervoyel
03-20-2013, 08:33 PM
So you want to start Keo? Or sign Huff? Or a rookie?

Look deal in reality. GQ is GONE. By by. Adios. Not an option. Look at the intangibles.
You think Reed is scared of Brady and the Pats?
You think Reed is scared of Manning and the Broncos?

Hellllllllllllllllllll no!


I caught that "Manning and the Colts?" before you changed it. I still think of it like that too a lot of the time.

House of Pain
03-20-2013, 08:36 PM
I don't know what the numbers and guaranteed money is and stuff, but I'm pretty certain they over-payed. Although he will be wearing a Ravens jersey in the Hall of Fame, will probably be the first player in the Hall that wore a Texans jersey.

Still a good pick-up for a relatively young team that needs leadership and staying grounded.

Please don't let him be Ahman Moulds.

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 08:37 PM
Good news: We got reed
Bad news: This changes the whole draft strategy. (i still like Hopkins from Clemson)

Help me out dude, I'm not sure what one has to do with the other?

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:37 PM
Just give bread -n- water. He can make his own wine. :kitten:

Touche! :whip:

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:41 PM
Help me out dude, I'm not sure what one has to do with the other?

See...now that we signed an older Safety for 2-3 years we won't need to draft another safety because we're putting all our hopes on Keo becoming a beast once he learns from Ed.

That MUST be the logic behind not drafting a Safety in our 2 Safety set. :spin:

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 08:47 PM
See...now that we signed an older Safety for 2-3 years we won't need to draft another safety because we're putting all our hopes on Keo becoming a beast once he learns from Ed.

That MUST be the logic behind not drafting a Safety in our 2 Safety set. :spin:

I see what you did there..... :spin:

Seriously though, I thought Deandre Hopkins was a WR... :specnatz:

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 08:48 PM
Not only that, Reed's strength is zone coverage, now he's gonna be playing a lot of man coverage due to wade's man to man scheme which is not his strong suit.


I don't think Wade would be so foolish. Ed will stay high, playing centerfield. Manning is going to drop in the box ala Quin. The other guy Demps/Keo/(hopefully Brandon Harris) would drop down to play man in Dime packages.

Last year, for some reason we let Demps/Keo play centerfield. Most of the big plays were because Demps was sleeping, looking into the backfield.

That won't happen with Reed.

Rey
03-20-2013, 08:55 PM
Man I hope we draft dj swearinger.

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:57 PM
I see what you did there..... :spin:

Seriously though, I thought Deandre Hopkins was a WR... :specnatz:

:aggressive:
:spit:

This place is a mess during the offseason.

Uncle Rico
03-20-2013, 08:59 PM
Moves like these rejuvenate me as a fan. Im so happy right now. All this ****talking the last two weeks finally has closure and the team a direction.

his locker room presence alone is worth the contract, say he does miss time with injury, him just being there will be a great deal of motivation.

lets just go get Urlacher and take a shot at this damn thing next year. lets make some noise with the old guys, one last hoorah!

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:59 PM
Regardless of who we sign/draft, we need people to match up w these TEs that KILLED us last year.

No one is going to stop Gronk and Hernandez but damn, at least slow the bleeding. Make a play every once and a while.

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 09:00 PM
Look Reed is gonna make mistakes. In his prime he made mistakes. I just think his intensity and leadership is very valuable to this young D that got starry eyed against Brady and Rodgers.

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 09:02 PM
:aggressive:
:spit:

This place is a mess during the offseason.

And people wonder why my alcohol consumption goes way up this time of year. :gun:

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 09:03 PM
Moves like these rejuvenate me as a fan. Im so happy right now. All this ****talking the last two weeks finally has closure and the team a direction.

his locker room presence alone is worth the contract, say he does miss time with injury, him just being there will be a great deal of motivation.

lets just go get Urlacher and take a shot at this damn thing next year. lets make some noise with the old guys, one last hoorah!

Ummmm no!

Urlacher is to old and slow.

You think our LBs had trouble covering TEs last year, add Urlacher to that equation? Helllllll no.

Uncle Rico
03-20-2013, 09:08 PM
Ummmm no!

Urlacher is to old and slow.

You think our LBs had trouble covering TEs last year, add Urlacher to that equation? Helllllll no.

Im not calling for a full time fix. another locker room guy that can show these young un's how its done. BU is still strong against the run and now that the Bears slapped him in the face maybe he has that fire to finish with a real contender. I'd love him on this team and you bet your ass that Wade could devise a game plan to utilize his strengths. Pipe dreams, isnt America great?! Nothing is gonna blow my high right now anyways, Reed amongst some was never going to happen too, and looky here.

powda
03-20-2013, 09:10 PM
Too much money for a brand name. I think this signing makes us more comfortable with safety then we should be hurting us even more in the draft. Somewhere there's a big sharpee that's been used for the name reed. We still need a safety in the top 4 rounds or so. He's a bandaide.

panamamyers
03-20-2013, 09:10 PM
Urlacher is slower than Bradie James at this point. Don't want Urlacher anywhere close to this tea.

htownfan32
03-20-2013, 09:15 PM
Who says this FO doesn't do shyte in the offseason? :D
I don't think this takes safety off our draft board. Now you draft a safety to learn from Ed Reed, and in two years you'll have a strong backfield.

TexansFight
03-20-2013, 09:16 PM
I am very happy if this is true. We need a veteran WR damn it. Drafting a rookie will not give us the immediate impact we need now.

DX-TEX
03-20-2013, 09:17 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21918756/texans-snagging-reed-brilliant-move

Mike Freeman likes it:

know there are people who think safety Ed Reed is done. They think he's slowed. They think he's hanging on to make cash and pad his legacy. There are those who believe all of that. I am not one of them.

Houston won the Reed derby and they won it big time. I know in texting with one Baltimore Ravens official there is genuine sadness that he's gone. The feeling in that organization is that Reed is still highly effective and now the Texans have him.


Houston desperately needed someone like Reed on that defense. Almost every time I've seen that secondary in a big spot, against a good quarterback, it gets absolutely torched. Tom Brady destroys a lot of secondaries, but what he did last season against Houston is considered a misdemeanor in 15 states.

BullBlitz
03-20-2013, 09:22 PM
Congratulations to the Texans for signing Reed.

I remember when we signed Jonathan Joesph and Daneal Manning. That was supposed to get us to the AFC Title Game, or to the Super Bowl. Instead, we have continued to fall short because we of weakness at WR and QB.

That hasn't changed.

Uncle Rico
03-20-2013, 09:24 PM
Urlacher is slower than Bradie James at this point. Don't want Urlacher anywhere close to this tea.

thats debateable Urlacher took one to the house this year and still shows flashes, but Im not calling on him to cover Gronkowski, we were weak as hell up the middle last year, and Im comfortable saying Urlacher plays the inside run much better than either James or Ruud. Im assuming that Manning is going to be in the box much more (which i feel is a role he will thrive in) i think between he and Cush (assuming he's back to form) that you can cover up Urlacher's deficiencies. He's probably going to go to an inter division rival, but at this time next year I wouldnt be surprised to see him near 100 combined tackles for whoever he plays for.

Uncle Rico
03-20-2013, 09:27 PM
I am very happy if this is true. We need a veteran WR damn it. Drafting a rookie will not give us the immediate impact we need now.

i disagree, a 1st round WR is actually a good bet. Youthful legs to stretch out a defense and allow Dre to work the middle. We didnt have that deep threat at all last year (i was counting on Jean, but he was underwhelming) a veteran WR with speed will cost too much for this team.

jdschmidt03
03-20-2013, 09:28 PM
We need a solid WR

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 09:28 PM
Urlacher? URLACHER???? :facepalm:

Not no, but EFF NO!!!!

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 09:29 PM
Congratulations to the Texans for signing Reed.

I remember when we signed Jonathan Joesph and Daneal Manning. That was supposed to get us to the AFC Title Game, or to the Super Bowl. Instead, we have continued to fall short because we of weakness at WR and QB.

That hasn't changed.

So what QB are the Texans gonna sign in FA or Draft that is better than MS?

Is next Sunday the first game of the '13 season? Last I checked free agency and the draft is still to come.

Waaaa waaaaaa Debbie Downer.

TEXANRED
03-20-2013, 09:31 PM
Urlacher? URLACHER???? :facepalm:

Not no, but EFF NO!!!!

Urlacher/Cushing? No?

Dutchrudder
03-20-2013, 09:33 PM
Good news that we got him, but I won't be jumping for joy until I see the structure of the deal. If its 4m a year as has been speculated, then ill be very happy :)

keyser
03-20-2013, 09:36 PM
Do we have any reliable source with the value/length/guarantees/etc. on the contract yet?

I'm excited that Reed will be coming here, and hope he's not washed up (sure doesn't seem like he is). I just hope they didn't massively overpay him and that the contract is set so that he can be cut without much penalty if it turns out he is washed up after all.

CloakNNNdagger
03-20-2013, 09:47 PM
I've seen it written that it is $4 mil 3 yrs.........then Barry Warner on 610 reported this evening that it was $4 mil 2 yrs.

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 09:49 PM
Too much money for a brand name. I think this signing makes us more comfortable with safety then we should be hurting us even more in the draft. Somewhere there's a big sharpee that's been used for the name reed. We still need a safety in the top 4 rounds or so. He's a bandaide.

Nobody is saying he is going to be here for ten years!!!!! This defense lacked veteran leadership last year. Someone to calm their asses down when playing the big games in January. Reed is a leader and his experience in those big games will go further than you think. Of course we are going to draft a safety in one of the premium rounds. And that individual will learn under one of if not the greatest safety to ever play the game. His knowledge of the game is priceless.

CloakNNNdagger
03-20-2013, 09:52 PM
One quote

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 2h

While there were reports of Reed getting in the $4 million range, I would not be surprised at all if its closer to $6M per year

CloakNNNdagger
03-20-2013, 09:53 PM
Another

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 2h

Hearing Ed Reed got as much as $7 million total guaranteed on his two-year deal, per a league source.

TexanSam
03-20-2013, 09:57 PM
Now we need to draft a safety in rounds 3, 4, or 5 to develop while Reed is starting. There would be no better mentor than a future HOFer and one of the best ever to play his position.

BullBlitz
03-20-2013, 09:57 PM
So what QB are the Texans gonna sign in FA or Draft that is better than MS?

Is next Sunday the first game of the '13 season? Last I checked free agency and the draft is still to come.

Waaaa waaaaaa Debbie Downer.

OK Debbie, who suggested that they were going to sign another QB? Not I.

TheRealJoker
03-20-2013, 09:59 PM
Pending the contract details I just want to say I am proud of this front office for going out and signing a notable free agent. Far too often they have been criticized for not taking chances in free agency. Signing Ed Reed is a gamble that can definitely pay off for us. Kudos to the front office for going out and getting their man.

Marcus
03-20-2013, 10:01 PM
Well, whatever he's getting this year, 4 mil or 6, I bet it's structured so that Smith can ****can him next season if he wants to with minimum cap hit.

I'm not jumping for joy over it. 35 years old, passed his prime, draws a lot of penalties, and misses a lot of tackles. On second thought, he should fit right in.

SmoochyTX
03-20-2013, 10:01 PM
Just read about the news. I guess I'm glad Ed Reed is here? I wonder what he's being paid and if it's worth it.

It sure seems like a whole lot of hullabaloo for him when he might not even be a true contributing member. I'm just unsure.

:spin:

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 10:02 PM
Urlacher/Cushing? No?

No....

Urlacher - 34 y/o
Cushing - 26 y/o


and basically play the same position.

Why overpay for a better Brady James. Why not move Brooks Reed to the inside and buid the interior through the draft?



KEEP IT YOUNG... Well as young as the salary cap will allow you.

kingtexan
03-20-2013, 10:05 PM
Injured often ... at the end of his career ... yay

wolf123
03-20-2013, 10:08 PM
Injured often ... at the end of his career ... yay

Yay your here!!:hurrah:

EVOLVIST
03-20-2013, 10:10 PM
Ed Reed? Cool.

All this talk about really, really, really needing to draft a safety to learn under Reed, though? Sure, I'd pick one up somewhere in the later rounds, but y'all are forgetting about this cat we have named...

Eddie Pleasant.

A high IQ guy who finds himself around the ball a lot. Believe that.

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 10:14 PM
OK Debbie, who suggested that they were going to sign another QB? Not I.

No but you moan and groan about the production of the QB and #2 WR and what is your answer to solve em?

Draft? FA? Cause that's the only way to solve your conundrum.

The Texans just shured up the D and all you can do is pizz and moan and beat the he777 out o that dead horse and have no tangible solution.

steelbtexan
03-20-2013, 10:17 PM
Now we need to draft a safety in rounds 3, 4, or 5 to develop while Reed is starting. There would be no better mentor than a future HOFer and one of the best ever to play his position.

Cooper Taylor in rd 3-4.

Now is the time to bring Casey Hampton home. Then draft a young LB like Brown in rd 2 and this defense would be a championship caliber defense.

Joe Texan
03-20-2013, 10:17 PM
Ed is a solid signing period. Now lets get the punter and lets get the special teams and lets get this football team where it belongs

ThaJokaa
03-20-2013, 10:24 PM
Ed Reed? Cool.

All this talk about really, really, really needing to draft a safety to learn under Reed, though? Sure, I'd pick one up somewhere in the later rounds, but y'all are forgetting about this cat we have named...

Eddie Pleasant.

A high IQ guy who finds himself around the ball a lot. Believe that.

I forgot about him! You sho right!

imatexan
03-20-2013, 10:29 PM
YES!!!

Finally a great addition for this years superbowl run and a big statement for the franchise for years.

Glad to have you in Houston Ed!

Showtime100
03-20-2013, 10:30 PM
Ed is a solid signing period. Now lets get the punter and lets get the special teams and lets get this football team where it belongs

Question. Is there one more position we could upgrade to get this team where it belongs? :stirpot:

BMann
03-20-2013, 10:37 PM
Ravens fan checking in. Congrats on signing the GOAT at the position. No, he's definitely not the Ed Reed of 2004, but he can still cover and freelance like no one else. He might have enough left in the tank to do for you guys what Rod Woodson did for us back in '00. I am sure going to miss screaming "REEEEEED!!!" at the top of my lungs on Sundays at M&T. You got a good one, folks!

handswarmer
03-20-2013, 10:37 PM
Congratulations on getting Ed- I wished he would end his career in Purple but he saw something else on his visit or in the contract ($$$).

Hope it works out well for both parties.

DX-TEX
03-20-2013, 10:39 PM
So.....when do they announce the Pollard and Winston signing?

Uncle Rico
03-20-2013, 10:42 PM
Welcome to The U of Moo baby! If only we can convince Reggie Wayne to ask for a trade we are set!

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 10:47 PM
Ravens fan checking in. Congrats on signing the GOAT at the position. No, he's definitely not the Ed Reed of 2004, but he can still cover and freelance like no one else.

Thanks a lot. It's nice to hear from a fan from an opposing team, especially the Super Bowl champs. I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of youse guys for a little while to come.

Drop by anytime.

Congratulations on getting Ed- I wished he would end his career in Purple but he saw something else on his visit or in the contract ($$$).

Hope it works out well for both parties.

Shut yer pie-hole. go find a Ravens board ya frig'n troll.









Uh, I mean thank you.

Texn4life
03-20-2013, 10:47 PM
As soon as 2 days ago I mentioned that I still thought he would sign here. Didn't think he would put AJ if he wasn't serious about coming. Glad he'll be sporting our uniform this upcoming season.

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 10:53 PM
Ed is a solid signing period. Now lets get the punter and lets get the special teams and lets get this football team where it belongs

While Lechler is the arguably the second best punter in history, he would cost more than Donnie Jones (or whoever) who had a really good season. Think about the future. Think about the salary cap...

That said.... "Gig 'em"! Go Shane Lechler!!!


*****************

As an aside Joe, when are you going to hook-up another sprinkler system, identical to what you did at my old place?

badboy
03-20-2013, 10:56 PM
Marc Berman : deal not done but national services saying Reed's financial adviser all done but minor things. Also Texans negotiating with punter Shane Lechler.

BullBlitz
03-20-2013, 10:58 PM
No but you moan and groan about the production of the QB and #2 WR and what is your answer to solve em?

Draft? FA? Cause that's the only way to solve your conundrum.

The Texans just shured up the D and all you can do is pizz and moan and beat the he777 out o that dead horse and have no tangible solution.

All I did was make an observation. I don't have a solution. But it's about time that the Texans hire someone in the front office who does.

chicagotexan2
03-20-2013, 11:03 PM
I thought for sure he'd resign with Baltimore. I only hope he's still got something left in the tank and Rick smith didn't just go Ahman green 2.0 on us.

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 11:06 PM
Ed Reed? Cool.

All this talk about really, really, really needing to draft a safety to learn under Reed, though? Sure, I'd pick one up somewhere in the later rounds, but y'all are forgetting about this cat we have named...

Eddie Pleasant.

A high IQ guy who finds himself around the ball a lot. Believe that.

I think all the talk about drafting a safety is well warranted. This is actually a very rich safety draft. Why not invest in a safety in th3 third or fourth round???

I'm pretty sure that Pleasant won't be around, but they're will be a bunch around, no?


(If I misunderstood your post, please feel free to share)

Lurvinator11
03-20-2013, 11:12 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 5m
Maximum value of Ed Reed's deal with the Texans is $16 million for 3 years. Very strong deal for an older safety, especially in this market

From Twitter.

ThaJokaa
03-20-2013, 11:12 PM
I think all the talk about drafting a safety is well warranted. This is actually a very rich safety draft. Why not invest in a safety in th3 third or fourth round???

I'm pretty sure that Pleasant won't be around, but they're will be a bunch around, no?


(If I misunderstood your post, please feel free to share)

Wouldn't hurt to get another one to replace Keo, but Eddie Pleasant is on our PS I believe

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 11:13 PM
All I did was make an observation. I don't have a solution. But it's about time that the Texans hire someone in the front office who does.

You mean a front office that fills in a hole in the defense?

Your the one who brought up the QB.

Scooter
03-20-2013, 11:21 PM
love it. we needed 2 positions on defense IMO - a cover linebacker to pair with cushing, and a centerfielder. reed is that centerfielder. jjo, kareem, and mccain are all man to man corners very fitting for our defense, and manning is better closer to the box ... reed is exactly what we needed roaming over the top and would very much change games like against the pats and packers (our biggest weakness).

question - who are some of the notable safeties to play under wade phillips?

handswarmer
03-20-2013, 11:22 PM
Thanks a lot. It's nice to hear from a fan from an opposing team, especially the Super Bowl champs. I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of youse guys for a little while to come.

Drop by anytime.



Shut yer pie-hole. go find a Ravens board ya frig'n troll.









Uh, I mean thank you.

Nice....

kiwitexansfan
03-20-2013, 11:32 PM
Hoping that Reed can stay healthy.

If he can, Reed and Manning are guys that can cause some turnovers.

CretorFrigg
03-20-2013, 11:34 PM
reed is exactly what we needed roaming over the top and would very much change games like against the pats and packers (our biggest weakness).

Where is everybody getting the idea that Reed is going to be effective roaming over the top? He was an OLB, and apparently they're converting him. Why? Has he done anything to suggest he knows what he's doing? This is a completely different role and people are just assuming he's going to flourish.

I'm not trying to argue. I legitimately want to know. Did Reed cover a lot more in college?

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 11:37 PM
Where is everybody getting the idea that Reed is going to be effective roaming over the top? He was an OLB, and apparently they're converting him. Why? Has he done anything to suggest he knows what he's doing? This is a completely different role and people are just assuming he's going to flourish.

I'm not trying to argue. I legitimately want to know. Did Reed cover a lot more in college?

I'm sure we're talking about Ed Reed roaming the deep middle.

You're thinking Brooks Reed moving to ILB.