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Dishman
03-17-2013, 08:40 PM
A friend of mine who works at Reliant saw him there.

Hmm...

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7749632&postcount=717

Dishman
03-17-2013, 08:42 PM
Got another text from the bloke.

Apparently, he came out wearing a Texans T-shirt. Again, I'm not witnessing any of this, so don't shoot the messenger.

I just want this to end one way or other......sigh.

Fo shizzle. Is this you?

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7750376&postcount=724

ASidd_1990
03-17-2013, 08:44 PM
Fo shizzle. Is this you?

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7750376&postcount=724

Hmmmmm......

CloakNNNdagger
03-17-2013, 08:45 PM
Someone needs to post that link about teams that go all-out in FA aren't the ones that end up succeeding as a result; sometimes slow and steady wins championships.

This is a recent ESPN article that addresses that


Why free-agency patience is a good thing (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/48050/why-free-agency-patience-is-a-good-thing)

By Paul Kuharsky | ESPN.com


...........you still have to keep in mind that the chicken game, if not played wiselyl, can leave you with bupkis!:kitten:

steelbtexan
03-17-2013, 08:50 PM
Erik Walden? Greg Toler? Gosder Cherilus? We're supposed to be shaking in our boots? Seriously? LaRon Landry is the only decent FA they signed and he isn't even that great in pass coverage. He is also injury prone.

Scored 357 points (22.3/g), 18th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 387 points (24.2/g), 21st.
Differential of -30 points (-1.9/g), 21st.
Expected W-L: 7.2-8.8.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2012.htm

Luck also had a 76 qb rating last year. Wilson and RG3 were a good deal better than him as rookies. Do I think he will improve? Yes, without a doubt. But he is not a world beater yet.

Furthermore, Texans were not much of a fluke last year.

Scored 416 points (26.0/g), 8th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 331 points (20.7/g), 9th.
Differential of 85 points (5.3/g), 8th.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/htx/2012.htm


That's what the numbers were saying as Karim broke thru the middle of the KO coverage untouched for a game deciding TD with HFA on the line.

Who will be the ST's coach next yr? Lets talk about the lack of accountability on the Texans staff. Or how many ST's coaches lost their jobs this offseason that had better ST's than the Texans did? Dave Toub?

PapaL
03-17-2013, 08:55 PM
All these BS posts deserve negative rep.

---

A friend of mine told me that Big Foot drove Ed Reed to BWI for his flight to Houston where he was picked up by El Chupacabra and driven to Benihana's where they enjoy a nice meal with Jimmy Hoffa, 2Pac, and Elvis.

bigbrewster2000
03-17-2013, 08:56 PM
A friend of mine who works at Reliant saw him there.

C'mon man. Can't say much else about it. You have no credibility whatsoever. Please stop making this stuff up its pretty annoying

76Texan
03-17-2013, 09:00 PM
Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome plans to sit down with Reed's agent, David Dunn, at the NFL Annual Meeting this week and make an offer to keep the future Hall of Fame safety. He believes Reed will make a decision this week.

"Four years ago, we went down this same road with Ray (Lewis)," Newsome told USA Today's Jarrett Bell. "Dave always does a very good job of keeping us in the loop. That doesn't mean Ed will come back, and it doesn't mean that he will leave."

Newsome wouldn't hint at what the offer will be after Reed made $7.2 million last season. He should be a priority with the loss of Lewis, Paul Kruger, Dannell Ellerbe, Bernard Pollard and Cary Williams

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000151430/article/baltimore-ravens-prep-final-push-for-safety-ed-reed

76Texan
03-17-2013, 09:01 PM
Looks like it's gonna take a while.

EllisUnit
03-17-2013, 09:04 PM
So Ed Reed leaves the stadium in a texans shirt, yet no media or anyone was there to capture this ? No statmentsfrom the team ??

Man i need new boots cause the ones i'm wearing are covered in Shi*

steelbtexan
03-17-2013, 09:05 PM
Someone needs to post that link about teams that go all-out in FA aren't the ones that end up succeeding as a result; sometimes slow and steady wins championships.

Slow? You mean as in mentally handicapped? That's the Texans pace of doing business. 2 playoff berths in Ricks 7 yrs isn't acceptable. Atleast not for those who dont buy the change is to traumatic routine that BoB/Rick/Gary are selling.

I would say with the way the Texans are operating if they are honest with themselves the Kubiak regime has been a failure if your goal is to be a championship contender. Lets face facts, the Texans in spite of their gaudy record were frauds last yr, as proven when they played teams with elite QB's late in the yr.

I dont see it getting any better any time soon with Schaub as the QB. So save the FA $$$$ re-sign Cushing and Watt draft well to fill in the holes and maybe in 3 yrs when Schaub is gone and a new QB has some game experience maybe then Texans and their loyal fans can start dreaming about a Lombardi trophy again.

DX-TEX
03-17-2013, 09:11 PM
Slow? You mean as in mentally handicapped? That's the Texans pace of doing business. 2 playoff berths in Ricks 7 yrs isn't acceptable. Atleast not for those who dont buy the change is to traumatic routine that BoB/Rick/Gary are selling.

I would say with the way the Texans are operating if they are honest with themselves the Kubiak regime has been a failure if your goal is to be a championship contender. Lets face facts, the Texans in spite of their gaudy record were frauds last yr, as proven when they played teams with elite QB's late in the yr.

I dont see it getting any better any time soon with Schaub as the QB. So save the FA $$$$ re-sign Cushing and Watt draft well to fill in the holes and maybe in 3 yrs when Schaub is gone and a new QB has some game experience maybe then Texans and their loyal fans can start dreaming about a Lombardi trophy again.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1252436505_football-balls-kick.gif

paycheck71
03-17-2013, 09:19 PM
So Ed Reed leaves the stadium in a texans shirt, yet no media or anyone was there to capture this ? No statmentsfrom the team ??

Man i need new boots cause the ones i'm wearing are covered in Shi*

Everybody's in PHX or on their way for the owners meeting. Don't feed the troll...

TEXANRED
03-17-2013, 09:21 PM
Got another text from the bloke.

Apparently, he came out wearing a Texans T-shirt. Again, I'm not witnessing any of this, so don't shoot the messenger.

I just want this to end one way or other......sigh.

I want to believe this so I won't give you any BS about it. I hope this is true.

jaayteetx
03-17-2013, 09:25 PM
I saw Ed Reed here in Albuquerque eating a red chile enchilada, oh wait...it was green.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-17-2013, 09:27 PM
ASidd_1990 is just trying to be a messenger(which isn't a bad thing) and it is up to us to believe it or not. I would wait till firm conformation from more reliable source.

CloakNNNdagger
03-17-2013, 09:30 PM
http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1351367357968_9966476.png

Nawzer
03-17-2013, 09:35 PM
I hope the Ravens wrap this thing up by tomorrow so that the Texans can move on to their plans C,D,E, and F.

DX-TEX
03-17-2013, 09:36 PM
BREAKING: Certainty at 99.9% Ed Reed is NOT in the city of Houston right now.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-17-2013, 09:38 PM
BREAKING: Certainty at 99.9% Ed Reed is NOT in the city of Houston right now.

So, it was a janitor looked like Ed Reed?

mussop
03-17-2013, 09:39 PM
So, it was a janitor looked like Ed Reed?

It was James harden!

DX-TEX
03-17-2013, 09:42 PM
So, it was a janitor looked like Ed Reed?

The janitor is Ed Reed!!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/200/296/Waht%20a%20twist.jpg

Rey
03-17-2013, 09:46 PM
Dude, Ed reed is here at my house eating nachos, drinking beer and watching the good wife on tv.

Nawzer
03-17-2013, 09:47 PM
The janitor is Ed Reed!!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/200/296/Waht%20a%20twist.jpg

HAHAHA!

"I see Ed Reed...."

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNH_gMz7L8Pt3uC8afkm_G85kGMoA-z6M5RqJv2sU5baJhWYP0

Asidd's mysterious source has finally been revealed!

TheMatrix31
03-17-2013, 09:49 PM
Cause we do have enough cap to sign 2 vet guys who can start day 1.

.....and we probably will. Maybe the guys we want are the guys we're waiting on? It's not always all about what the teams do or don't do. These things take time.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-17-2013, 09:49 PM
It was James harden!

No, he was playing tonight or wait, maybe Janitor was playing for the Rockets tonight and this is why they lost.

drs23
03-17-2013, 09:53 PM
Let me offer another, possibly also correct, viewpoint.

The cowboys unwisely overspent, but are also still paying for the "uncapped" year that wasn't. All the owners that didn't go over the phantom cap decided to punish them for spending extra money.

On the Texans side:

overpaid for Schaub and Foster.
gave Andre Johnson a raise when he still had 5 years left on his contract. They made that contract incentive heavy but he freaking hit all the escalators and incentives. Now his cap hit for 2013 is 14.6 million dollars, or more than double than it would have been.
botched the secondary personel moves that resulted in a wasted season, and the need to break the bank bringing in JJo and Manning. The pain is coming this year in the form of Antonio and Joseph's 20 million against the cap.


Though I don't agree with points 1 through 3, thanks for playing.

Schuab's deal isn't a record nor anywhere near it. Barely mentioned in passing on any of the sports outlets. As many here have stated times too numerous to count, it's basically a two year deal. Get over it. This is BIG BOY football.

Arian was paid for what he'd done on his UDFA contract and was told if he could do it again he'd get paid. He played very well again and the Texans kept their word. He's earning his check still and see no reason, barring injury, that he'll not continue to do so.

AJ's a beast. So he hit the escalators and now your pee pee hurts? Yours sounds like a negnelly problem to me.

Oh, the tried and true KJ wasn't NFL ready dead horse. I'd debate that too but dead horses stink and the flies they draw bite. I'm stepping away.

I am more ecstatic day after day that folks that spew these lines, (your 3 little primer points) while having every right to do so, aren't the people in charge of running the team I choose to follow and root for.

the wonger need food
03-17-2013, 10:18 PM
The best CB on the market just got $5.5M. If Reed really wants $5-7M I just don't see it. He's really worth $2-3M, maybe a little extra in leadership value .

ObsiWan
03-17-2013, 10:42 PM
All these BS posts deserve negative rep.

---

A friend of mine told me that Big Foot drove Ed Reed to BWI for his flight to Houston where he was picked up by El Chupacabra and driven to Benihana's where they enjoy a nice meal with Jimmy Hoffa, 2Pac, and Elvis.

Now THAT'S a group photo I'd like to see on Facebook!
LOL

Brisco_County
03-17-2013, 10:45 PM
Why would anyone who's low on the totem at Reliant be working on a Sunday night in March?

Edit: I just saw that there was a UT basketball game at Reliant tonight. So that checks out, but I still think your friend is messing with you. Does he sometimes go by the name Bulls on Parade?

steelbtexan
03-17-2013, 11:27 PM
.....and we probably will. Maybe the guys we want are the guys we're waiting on? It's not always all about what the teams do or don't do. These things take time.

For the Texans they take time.

For the Broncos/Pats/Seahawks/49ers not so much.

NitroGSXR
03-17-2013, 11:35 PM
Why would anyone who's low on the totem at Reliant be working on a Sunday night in March?

It's the best time to mop the bathrooms... get them real clean and all.

PapaL
03-17-2013, 11:36 PM
It's the best time to mop the bathrooms... get them real clean and all.

Now that made me laugh hahaha

infantrycak
03-18-2013, 12:00 AM
Why would anyone who's low on the totem at Reliant be working on a Sunday night in March?

I'm not venturing into the veracity of this report but do you honestly believe there is ever a time when there aren't people at Reliant? I'd be surprised if the minimum isn't 8-10 security guards.

Premier
03-18-2013, 12:31 AM
well i hear there was quite a few people at reliant stadium tonight... i doubt ed reed was one of them..

http://www.image8.net/images/bfmzf8wkw.jpg

Kam
03-18-2013, 01:25 AM
That's a nice photo of the stadium.

Just checking in to the fun..

ObsiWan
03-18-2013, 01:30 AM
well i hear there was quite a few people at reliant stadium tonight... i doubt ed reed was one of them..


I dunno how you can be so sure...
That's a whole bunch of people
...and Ed Reed is probably a fairly common name.
Sooo... I'd be willing to bet there's somebody out there named Ed Reed.
:D

infantrycak
03-18-2013, 01:38 AM
I dunno how you can be so sure...
That's a whole bunch of people
...and Ed Reed is probably a fairly common name.
Sooo... I'd be willing to bet there's somebody out there named Ed Reed.
:D

Somebody is going to take this wrong - y'all all look the same anyway.

Premier
03-18-2013, 02:00 AM
nick scurfield took that photo.. if anyone was aware about reed being in the building it would have been him..

or maybe theyre doing a much better job at keeping things hush-hush..

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 02:34 AM
Sorry Fryeball on Clutchfans.

Kam
03-18-2013, 02:45 AM
Somebody is going to take this wrong - y'all all look the same anyway.

I hope no one takes this the wrong way either.

But I can guarantee you, if Ed Reed was at the George Strait Concert, he would stick out.

ObsiWan
03-18-2013, 02:50 AM
I hope no one takes this the wrong way either.

But I can guarantee you, if Ed Reed was at the George Strait Concert, he would stick out.

What..? You don't think Ed Reed wears jeans or something?
:)

EllisUnit
03-18-2013, 03:22 AM
Whew where is the NAACP when someone needs them. I dont need them but damn i can feel the love :).

Hey lets not all forget about Darius Rucker and Charley Pride :kitten:

My whole family is from Evadale Tx if anyone knows about that area.

Allstar
03-18-2013, 10:17 AM
Hmm...

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7749632&postcount=717

^ As Dishman subtly pointed out, not only is ASidd full of *******, he is straight up copying and pasting posts from a user on Clutchfans, pretending the info is his. This dude was banned from Clutchfans years ago, and I suggest a ban here as well (or just everybody neg rep him so his red rep will warn newer users not to listen to him).

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=7752099#post7752099

silentassassin
03-18-2013, 12:24 PM
^ As Dishman subtly pointed out, not only is ASidd full of *******, he is straight up copying and pasting posts from a user on Clutchfans, pretending the info is his. This dude was banned from Clutchfans years ago, and I suggest a ban here as well (or just everybody neg rep him so his red rep will warn newer users not to listen to him).

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=7752099#post7752099

Glad somebody recognized. This was a big issue during the Dwight Howard saga last summer. He had "sources" and started posting completely baseless rumors.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 12:27 PM
Glad somebody recognized. This was a big issue during the Dwight Howard saga last summer. He had "sources" and started posting completely baseless rumors.

What are you talking about?

silentassassin
03-18-2013, 12:32 PM
What are you talking about?

http://truebluenation.com/forum/index.php?/topic/23349-the-dwight-howard-drama-unfolds/page__st__8784

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7092390&postcount=110

https://twitter.com/AQS18

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 12:34 PM
http://truebluenation.com/forum/index.php?/topic/23349-the-dwight-howard-drama-unfolds/page__st__8784

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7092390&postcount=110

https://twitter.com/AQS18

LOL that isn't me.

That is my twitter account but I was just having fun.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 12:35 PM
I honestly don't what's weirder about what I've just been reading.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 12:38 PM
http://truebluenation.com/forum/index.php?/topic/23349-the-dwight-howard-drama-unfolds/page__st__8784

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7092390&postcount=110

https://twitter.com/AQS18

And quit stalking me.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 12:41 PM
Getting back on topic...... I still think Reed signs here. Thinking about the situation more, I just don't think he would do Andre that way. He stuck his neck out there for him, and in the end I believe it'll be enough for him to come to Houston.

silentassassin
03-18-2013, 12:45 PM
And quit stalking me.

It's not necessarily stalking. It requires virtually no effort to find when you use the same username across different online communities.

If you're trying to troll, maybe you can learn from this and do a better job next time.

Who knows? You might have sources and real information, but it doesn't bode well for you if you've been called out on multiple occasions in the past.

silentassassin
03-18-2013, 12:46 PM
Getting back on topic...... I still think Reed signs here. Thinking about the situation more, I just don't think he would do Andre that way. He stuck his neck out there for him, and in the end I believe it'll be enough for him to come to Houston.

Agreed.

Especially if the Ravens have other free agent targets in mind. They've been linked with guys like James Harrison and Elvis Dumervil. I doubt with the limited flexibility they have, that they can gamble on Reed while keeping themselves in play for those other players.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 12:48 PM
It's not necessarily stalking. It requires virtually no effort to find when you use the same username across different online communities.

If you're trying to troll, maybe you can learn from this and do a better job next time.

Who knows? You might have sources and real information, but it doesn't bode well for you if you've been called out on multiple occasions in the past.

:slapfight:

rolyat93
03-18-2013, 12:48 PM
Are we hearing anything about the Texans even looking at anybody else? I'm fine if we actually lock Reed down or they've gotten a commitment from him but it's a little concerning if they're just sitting on their thumbs waiting for Reed to make a decision.


Still quality DB's out there to be had.

silentassassin
03-18-2013, 12:52 PM
Are we hearing anything about the Texans even looking at anybody else? I'm fine if we actually lock Reed down or they've gotten a commitment from him but it's a little concerning if they're just sitting on their thumbs waiting for Reed to make a decision.


Still quality DB's out there to be had.

That's kind of the position they're in at this point. Without any confirmation from Reed, they're stuck. His decision will ultimately determine what kind of moves they can make going forward.

They might have other players in mind that they're planning on going for depending on the money Reed gets if he comes here.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 12:54 PM
Are we hearing anything about the Texans even looking at anybody else? I'm fine if we actually lock Reed down or they've gotten a commitment from him but it's a little concerning if they're just sitting on their thumbs waiting for Reed to make a decision.


Still quality DB's out there to be had.

Doesn't look like we are.

Heard John McClain on SR610 in the morning on my way to work.

Basically paraphrasing here since I'm at work.

1. Said the Texans would look to sign Charles Woodson on a 1 year deal to groom a rookie safety if Ed Reed doesn't sign.

2. Also said that since Watt and Cushing's deals are coming soon, they were prepared to let all FA walk and basically build through the draft. Said the Texans are scared Watt will have another big season and command big $$$.

3. Also will look to add a vet WR after the draft closer to training camp.

Playoffs
03-18-2013, 01:00 PM
http://truebluenation.com/forum/index.php?/topic/23349-the-dwight-howard-drama-unfolds/page__st__8784

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7092390&postcount=110

https://twitter.com/AQS18
My source is telling me Texans are bringing Taylor Swift in for a look see. :kitten:

Brisco_County
03-18-2013, 01:01 PM
Doesn't look like we are.

Heard John McClain on SR610 in the morning on my way to work.

Basically paraphrasing here since I'm at work.

1. Said the Texans would look to sign Charles Woodson on a 1 year deal to groom a rookie safety if Ed Reed doesn't sign.

2. Also said that since Watt and Cushing's deals are coming soon, they were prepared to let all FA walk and basically build through the draft. Said the Texans are scared Watt will have another big season and command big $$$.

3. Also will look to add a vet WR after the draft closer to training camp.

On point#2, it's nice to finally hear acknowledgement of this from the front office. It will definitely necessitate letting FA's walk, and the sacrifice will be worth it.

On point #3, adding two receivers this offseason means putting Jean back on the practice squad.

silentassassin
03-18-2013, 01:09 PM
On point#2, it's nice to finally hear acknowledgement of this from the front office. It will definitely necessitate letting FA's walk, and the sacrifice will be worth it.

On point #3, adding two receivers this offseason means putting Jean back on the practice squad.

Not sure about Jean's PS eligibility. I think the rule is if they've played in nine reg. season games or have been on the active roster for the entire season, they're not longer eligible for PS. He'll have to fight for a spot.

I imagine it'll be similar to last offseason. They'll bring someone in to compete for jobs on the 53-man roster. Sort of like how they brought Bryant Johnson back to compete and worked out Mike Sims-Walker and Roy Williams.

powda
03-18-2013, 01:09 PM
I had a friend who just saw Ed Reed at a Bucee's in Houston buying scratch off tickets!

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 01:11 PM
My source is telling me Texans are bringing Taylor Swift in for a look see. :kitten:

I might be on board with this! As long as she has good hands.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 01:12 PM
I had a friend who just saw Ed Reed at a Bucee's in Houston buying scratch off tickets!

Seriously?

Doppelganger
03-18-2013, 01:23 PM
This just in:

I have a source who just texted me that Ed Reed IS in fact back in Houston. He got in late last night. He is currently not at Reliant but is instead at the Toyota Center. He is standing in line waiting to buy tickets to the 98° show in June...

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 01:23 PM
It's not necessarily stalking. It requires virtually no effort to find when you use the same username across different online communities.

If you're trying to troll, maybe you can learn from this and do a better job next time.

Who knows? You might have sources and real information, but it doesn't bode well for you if you've been called out on multiple occasions in the past.

Are you by any chances of J.R on clutchfans?

powda
03-18-2013, 01:26 PM
Seriously?

Seriously.

Said he would probably sign now because he hit a jackpot on "Lucky 7's"

Texanmike02
03-18-2013, 01:28 PM
And quit stalking me.

If your informant keeps turning out to be wrong then maybe stop posting what he tells you? I don't think this is an issue of stalking, this is an issue of him providing everyone that reads what you say with a disclaimer. In my opinion you should consider watching Mrs. Cleo a few times and copy down the disclaimer she puts at the bottom of her advertisements. For entertainment value only, since you basically have the same ammount of credibility.

Mike

CretorFrigg
03-18-2013, 01:30 PM
My wife's best friend's uncle's son's cousin's friend says the Texans are going to sign Taylor Swift to be our #2 WR.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 01:30 PM
If your informant keeps turning out to be wrong then maybe stop posting what he tells you? I don't think this is an issue of stalking, this is an issue of him providing everyone that reads what you say with a disclaimer. In my opinion you should consider watching Mrs. Cleo a few times and copy down the disclaimer she puts at the bottom of her advertisements. For entertainment value only, since you basically have the same ammount of credibility.

Mike

Sources close to the situation say silentassassin is being a huge dick right now.

powda
03-18-2013, 01:31 PM
If your informant keeps turning out to be wrong then maybe stop posting what he tells you? I don't think this is an issue of stalking, this is an issue of him providing everyone that reads what you say with a disclaimer. In my opinion you should consider watching Mrs. Cleo a few times and copy down the disclaimer she puts at the bottom of her advertisements. For entertainment value only, since you basically have the same ammount of credibility.

Mike

Honestly, i'm starting to think he doesnt have a bad intent. He's just gulliable as **** and his friend is jacking with him.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 01:32 PM
And J.R of Clutchfans if your reading this, screw you!

thunderkyss
03-18-2013, 02:18 PM
I had a friend who just saw Ed Reed at a Bucee's in Houston buying scratch off tickets!

That was me.




We all look alike......... :kitten:

Cjeremy635
03-18-2013, 02:25 PM
That was me.




We all look alike......... :kitten:

:cool: +Rep!

ChampionTexan
03-18-2013, 02:25 PM
I had a friend who just saw Ed Reed at a Bucee's in Houston buying scratch off tickets!

Did he then go have lunch at a local In-N-Out Burger?

76Texan
03-18-2013, 02:33 PM
Did he then go have lunch at a local In-N-Out Burger?

There's no In-N-Out Burger in the Houston area yet, perhaps for another year or two.

ChampionTexan
03-18-2013, 02:35 PM
There's no In-N-Out Burger in the Houston area yet, perhaps for another year or two.

There's no Buc-cee's in Houston either.

TheIronDuke
03-18-2013, 02:37 PM
There's no Buc-cee's in Houston either.

There's several of them actually.

ChampionTexan
03-18-2013, 02:38 PM
There's several of them actually.

The key word is "in" as opposed to near.

And I don't want to go through the whole is Matt Schaub from Philadelphia thing all over again, so this is my last post on the matter.

TheIronDuke
03-18-2013, 02:40 PM
The key word is "in" as opposed to near.

And I don't want to go through the whole is Matt Schaub from Philadelphia thing all over again, so this is my last post on the matter.

Ah, got ya. I wasn't a part of that conversation. I guess there's none technically IN Houston. My bad.

False Start
03-18-2013, 02:40 PM
I saw a squirrel with a headband and a beard... wearing a # 20 Texans jersey!! Crazy... :voodoo:

CloakNNNdagger
03-18-2013, 02:58 PM
If your informant keeps turning out to be wrong then maybe stop posting what he tells you? I don't think this is an issue of stalking, this is an issue of him providing everyone that reads what you say with a disclaimer. In my opinion you should consider watching Mrs. Cleo a few times and copy down the disclaimer she puts at the bottom of her advertisements. For entertainment value only, since you basically have the same ammount of credibility.

Mike

The disclaimer evidently didn't do Miss Cleo any good.:hankpalm:

'Miss Cleo' Settles Federal Suit (http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigThis/message/14252)

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 03:00 PM
Interesting tweet from Ed Reed just now.

Ed Reed @TwentyER
Free agency it's a process that I never thought I will get to but here we are!free

Wonder what it means.

76Texan
03-18-2013, 03:00 PM
The key word is "in" as opposed to near.

And I don't want to go through the whole is Matt Schaub from Philadelphia thing all over again, so this is my last post on the matter.

There are several Buc'ees in the outskirts area of Houston.
Right now, the only In-N-Out Burgers in Texans are around the Dallas-Fort Worth-Frisco-Allen area.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 03:01 PM
There's actually a Buc-ees in Sugar Land if that counts.

Off of 59 and Highway 99.

Honoring Earl 34
03-18-2013, 03:08 PM
My source is telling me Texans are bringing Taylor Swift in for a look see. :kitten:

Yep ... Texans feel with a name like Swift , you have to be fast .

Rey
03-18-2013, 03:08 PM
At this point I think those that predicted reed would stay in balti are right.

Big Lou
03-18-2013, 03:08 PM
There's no In-N-Out Burger in the Houston area yet, perhaps for another year or two.

In-N-Out sucks, you need a Fatburger. Only redeeming thing about the west coast!!!!

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 03:11 PM
At this point I think those that predicted reed would stay in balti are right.

Looks like in his last tweet he's taking shots at the Ravens.

Rey
03-18-2013, 03:18 PM
Looks like in his last tweet he's taking shots at the Ravens.

Sounds like meaningless ramblings to me.

:shrug:

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 03:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9065150/nfl-baltimore-ravens-ed-reed-move-on

PHOENIX -- Ed Reed should wake up. He should look at the offer the Houston Texans have put on the table and realize the Baltimore Ravens aren't going to make him a better one. The Ravens aren't going to pay him between $10 million and $11 million overall for two years, no matter how loyal Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome is to his guys. Those are the numbers Houston is offering, given what a source told ESPN's John Clayton.

If Reed wants to take money out of the equation and finish his career where it started 11 years ago, albeit at a deep discount, then that's one thing. If Reed wants to make a money grab -- and at this stage of his career, with this likely being his last contract, no one would blame him if he did -- then he should take Houston's offer, because he isn't going to get a better one, especially from Baltimore.

Those numbers can't be right, we are offering him 10-11 million a year? I thought it was only 6-8 million?

michaelm
03-18-2013, 03:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9065150/nfl-baltimore-ravens-ed-reed-move-on



Those numbers can't be right, we are offering him 10-11 million a year? I thought it was only 6-8 million?

I think he means 10-11 million total for both years.
5 to 5.5 mil a year.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 03:24 PM
I think he means 10-11 million total for both years.
5 to 5.5 mil a year.

Yeah, article says total for 2 years.

Texanmike02
03-18-2013, 03:24 PM
Sources close to the situation say silentassassin is being a huge dick right now.

The same sources that said we were signing Winston, Pollard and Reed last week? They are equally correct on both.

Mike

Trap_Star
03-18-2013, 03:25 PM
Read it again, slowly.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 03:25 PM
The same sources that said we were signing Winston, Pollard and Reed last week? They are equally correct on both.

Mike

I think you are mistaking me for Bulls On Parade. He was the one who said that, not me.

Trap_Star
03-18-2013, 03:32 PM
lol you guys get trolled so easily. He's not even really trying and some of you are probably red in the face infront of your screen.

Doppelganger
03-18-2013, 03:34 PM
This just in:

I have a source who just texted me that Ed Reed IS in fact back in Houston. He got in late last night. He is currently not at Reliant but is instead at the Toyota Center. He is standing in line waiting to buy tickets to the 98° show in June...

New information just in...hot off the press as it were...

My sources(note sources not a single one) have now confirmed that Ed Reed has left the Toyota Center with 98° concert tickets in hand. He is enroute to the Willowbrook Mall where he will be going to H&M to buy a new fedora for the concert. I repeat...Ed Reed has left the Toyota Center and is heading to H&M at the Willowbrook Mall to get an H&M fedora...

Stay tuned as I get more updates!!!

Trap_Star
03-18-2013, 03:35 PM
F you guys, 98° are pretty cool.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 03:36 PM
lol you guys get trolled so easily. He's not even really trying and some of you are probably red in the face infront of your screen.

LMAO!!!

:vincepalm:

Trap_Star
03-18-2013, 03:39 PM
Tell them what your sources said about ed reed taking a dump within the next 24 hours.

houstonspartan
03-18-2013, 03:40 PM
Getting back on topic...... I still think Reed signs here. Thinking about the situation more, I just don't think he would do Andre that way. He stuck his neck out there for him, and in the end I believe it'll be enough for him to come to Houston.

Do Andre what way? All he'd have to do is say to Andre: "hey man, thanks for all your help. But, Baltimore made me a better overall deal to stay."

And that would be that. Andre would understand.

Yes, I do think Reed is using the Texans as leverage, but, that doesn't mean that he's necessarily using his friendship with Andre. Was it Andre's boneheaded decision to grab the private jet and fly to Atlanta and get him, and then make a big deal about doing that in the media? I doubt it.

Reed is playing this masterfully, IMO. He's using the Texans, yet, he can also preserve his friendship with Andre.

Doppelganger
03-18-2013, 03:41 PM
F you guys, 98° are pretty cool.

I take it you were in line behind him buying tickets :)

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 03:47 PM
Do Andre what way? All he'd have to do is say to Andre: "hey man, thanks for all your help. But, Baltimore made me a better overall deal to stay."

And that would be that. Andre would understand.

Yes, I do think Reed is using the Texans as leverage, but, that doesn't mean that he's necessarily using his friendship with Andre. Was it Andre's boneheaded decision to grab the private jet and fly to Atlanta and get him, and then make a big deal about doing that in the media? I doubt it.

Reed is playing this masterfully, IMO. He's using the Texans, yet, he can also preserve his friendship with Andre.

If the deal was more then I'd agree with you. If its less than what Houston offers then I can't see him doing that. Just my opinion on this one.

eriadoc
03-18-2013, 03:56 PM
I heard someone's sister knew a guy whose brother's friend knew someone who was working door security at Reliant that said Ed Reed is seriously thinking about considering the Texans going forward.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 03:59 PM
I heard someone's sister knew a guy whose brother's friend knew someone who was working door security at Reliant that said Ed Reed is seriously thinking about considering the Texans going forward.

Seriously? Sounds pretty reliable to me.

djohn2oo8
03-18-2013, 04:57 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Ravens among those interested in safety michael huff as well as dallas cowboys green bay packers and tennessee titans per a league source

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Ravens were extremely high on michael huff coming out of texas so their interest isn't a surprise we'll see if develops into serious pursuit

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Ravens' interest in elvis dumervil is ongoing he's vouched for by lbs coach don martindale his coach in denver when he had 17 sacks in 2009

Doppelganger
03-18-2013, 05:19 PM
This just in:

I have a source who just texted me that Ed Reed IS in fact back in Houston. He got in late last night. He is currently not at Reliant but is instead at the Toyota Center. He is standing in line waiting to buy tickets to the 98° show in June...

New information just in...hot off the press as it were...

My sources(note sources not a single one) have now confirmed that Ed Reed has left the Toyota Center with 98° concert tickets in hand. He is enroute to the Willowbrook Mall where he will be going to H&M to buy a new fedora for the concert. I repeat...Ed Reed has left the Toyota Center and is heading to H&M at the Willowbrook Mall to get an H&M fedora...

Stay tuned as I get more updates!!!

New Updates!!!

My sources, now indicate that Ed Reed has been spotted ice skating at the Galleria. He is wearing blue ice skates, a purple hat, and a white scarf....

thunderkyss
03-18-2013, 05:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9065150/nfl-baltimore-ravens-ed-reed-move-on



Those numbers can't be right, we are offering him 10-11 million a year? I thought it was only 6-8 million?

No, that's not right. See if this helps (http://orton-gillingham.com/Photos/Reading%20Comprehension%20G%201-31_18319100.jpg).

CloakNNNdagger
03-18-2013, 05:57 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Ravens among those interested in safety michael huff as well as dallas cowboys green bay packers and tennessee titans per a league source

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Ravens were extremely high on michael huff coming out of texas so their interest isn't a surprise we'll see if develops into serious pursuit

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Ravens' interest in elvis dumervil is ongoing he's vouched for by lbs coach don martindale his coach in denver when he had 17 sacks in 2009

Reed's playing us and Baltimore's playing Reed and the Texans are just playing along.......and hoping for the best.

CloakNNNdagger
03-18-2013, 06:13 PM
Today from ESPN Kuharsky. 2yr deal $10-11 mil.????:shots:
Ed Reed is sure acting like a guy who's hoping the Baltimore Ravens will still step up and give him the kind of deal he's looking for.

But more likely he's facing the harsh realities of an expensive, aging superstar.

ESPN.com's Ashley Fox doesn't think Reed is going to get the two-year deal with between $10 and $11 million he can have from the Houston Texans in Baltimore.

If the Ravens can move on from Ray Lewis, Anquan Boldin, Bernard Pollard, Paul Kruger and Dannell Ellerbe, they can move on from Ed Reed. Life will go on.

And really, it is time. The Ravens can cut ties with Reed, a beloved member of the franchise, and be good. They can do it with a clear conscience. They won a Super Bowl with Reed, despite all the insanity of last season, when Reed flirted with retiring or quitting or spending time with his family or whatever he was going to do.

The Ravens are loyal, but giving Ed Reed big money would be bad business.

Baltimore stood by him. It won with him. And a decade from now, when he is retired, Reed can come back with (Ray) Lewis and Boldin and Ray Rice and Joe Flacco and celebrate the 10-year anniversary of their greatest professional achievement, and there should be no bad blood. There should be cheers and roses and good feelings.

It ended the way it was supposed to, with Reed on top.

And now it should end.LINK (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/48335/on-ed-reed-letting-go-of-the-baltimore-ravens)

djohn2oo8
03-18-2013, 06:15 PM
Today from ESPN Kuharsky. 2yr deal $10-11 mil.????:shots:
LINK (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/48335/on-ed-reed-letting-go-of-the-baltimore-ravens)

5.5 mil per year

badboy
03-18-2013, 06:17 PM
If Reed signs in Houston will we get safety riding slowly into the sunset with saddlebags full of gold or a fiery competitor wanting to show his skills?

djohn2oo8
03-18-2013, 06:19 PM
If Reed signs in Houston will we get safety riding slowly into the sunset with saddlebags full of gold or a fiery competitor wanting to show his skills?

He'd probably want to stick it to Baltimore for not bringing him back, and show his skills.

Vinny
03-18-2013, 06:21 PM
If Reed signs in Houston will we get safety riding slowly into the sunset with saddlebags full of gold or a fiery competitor wanting to show his skills?
We would get the equivalent of Ken Stabler in Houston, Joe Namith in LA, and Earl Campbell in New Orleans.

Double Barrel
03-18-2013, 06:38 PM
We would get the equivalent of Ken Stabler in Houston, Joe Namith in LA, and Earl Campbell in New Orleans.

yep.

The automobile equivalent - a 'slightly worn' Ferrari 250 GTO:

http://i41.tinypic.com/f42zyr.jpg

GP
03-18-2013, 06:40 PM
If one more person asks if the deal is 10 or 11 million per year....pow! straight to da' moon, Alice.

I think if another team was going to get Ed Reed, it would have happened by now. Texans probably the best offer on the table.

.....According to my sources.

djohn2oo8
03-18-2013, 06:41 PM
If one more person asks if the deal is 10 or 11 million per year....pow! straight to da' moon, Alice.

I think if another team was going to get Ed Reed, it would have happened by now. Texans probably the best offer on the table.

.....According to my sources.

A couple of Ed's tweets and conversations on twitter hint he doesn't think Baltimore's offer is good enough.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-18-2013, 07:09 PM
yep.

The automobile equivalent - a 'slightly worn' Ferrari 250 GTO:

http://i41.tinypic.com/f42zyr.jpg

I wouldn't mind restoring Ferrari 250 GTO! It can be very valuable.:drive:

beerlover
03-18-2013, 07:15 PM
I wouldn't mind restoring Ferrari 250 GTO! It can be very valuable.:drive:

Don't forget costly too!

GP
03-18-2013, 07:27 PM
A couple of Ed's tweets and conversations on twitter hint he doesn't think Baltimore's offer is good enough.

Right. That's what this is about, the number of 10 or 11 is for a total 2-yr deal, meaning Houston reportedly is ranging around 5.5-per year, for 2 years.

But people are getting confused and thinking it's 10 or 11 per YEAR. Granted, the wording of these reports can be confusing at first glance...but still, 10 or 11 per year would be Carwin/Eagles type of contract. LOL.

Ed might decide to just retire, too. The longer it drags out, the more he'll decide being retired sounds good.

An offer lingering on the table, with no other team really making noise or having Ed in for visits, and him stretching this out unnecessarily long like this...makes me wonder if we should pull the offer and take it as a sign that it wasn't the hot deal we first thought it was (for us).

DX-TEX
03-18-2013, 07:31 PM
Ed Reed ‏@TwentyER
Free agency it's a process that I never thought I will be get to but here we are!free


Expand

I think Ed is drunk

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 07:32 PM
Reed will end up a Texan. That's my call. I may be wrong, but its just how I see it playing out.

djohn2oo8
03-18-2013, 07:39 PM
Right. That's what this is about, the number of 10 or 11 is for a total 2-yr deal, meaning Houston reportedly is ranging around 5.5-per year, for 2 years.

But people are getting confused and thinking it's 10 or 11 per YEAR. Granted, the wording of these reports can be confusing at first glance...but still, 10 or 11 per year would be Carwin/Eagles type of contract. LOL.

Ed might decide to just retire, too. The longer it drags out, the more he'll decide being retired sounds good.

An offer lingering on the table, with no other team really making noise or having Ed in for visits, and him stretching this out unnecessarily long like this...makes me wonder if we should pull the offer and take it as a sign that it wasn't the hot deal we first thought it was (for us).

However, our deal may be the highest Ed has on the table, which is why he's taking so long trying to see if anyone will outbid.

Brisco_County
03-18-2013, 07:41 PM
I think Ed is drunk

Maybe he really is Bulls on Parade's "source" then.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-18-2013, 07:47 PM
Don't forget costly too!

If restoring pays off or not? It is all depends on condition when purchased.:winky:

Bubbajwp
03-18-2013, 07:50 PM
I need some sources. Anybody know were I can find some?

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 07:52 PM
I need some sources. Anybody know were I can find some?

Someone told me a good place are the massage parlors in town. Very nice women and well connected from what I understand.

281
03-18-2013, 07:55 PM
I need some sources. Anybody know were I can find some?

Ask ASidd1990, I'm sure he wouldn't mind giving you his. I don't think he wants them anymore.

CloakNNNdagger
03-18-2013, 08:05 PM
FWIF, from Profootballfocus (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/02/26/performance-based-value-baltimore-ravens/):

2. Ed Reed, Safety

In his prime there wasn’t a safety like Ed Reed. Clearly that time has passed. He would still walk away with a positive grade in coverage on the back of four interceptions and seven pass break-ups, but it was only the 17th-highest coverage grade of all safeties. Add in some sub-par run defense and too many missed tackles (15) and he was a long way from being worth the money.

2012 Cap Hit: $8.5m
2012 Performance Based Value: $2M
Value Differential: -$6.5m

BTW, PFF rates Reed as 59th of all safeties.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 08:07 PM
FWIF, from Profootballfocus (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/02/26/performance-based-value-baltimore-ravens/):


BTW, PFF rates Reed as 59th of all safeties.

It was a down year for him no doubt, but he played with some very average players all year as well.

playa465
03-18-2013, 08:07 PM
If one more person asks if the deal is 10 or 11 million per year....pow! straight to da' moon, Alice.

What!!! we're offering him 10 or 11 million? :slapfight:

msbbc833
03-18-2013, 08:10 PM
If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?

texan279
03-18-2013, 08:12 PM
I am sick of this BS dragging on and on already. I don't even want him here anymore.

bckey
03-18-2013, 08:18 PM
I really don't think Reed wants to play in Houston. I think Baltimore let him test the market to see what he could get. Now he wants Baltimore to match what Houston offered and they won't do it. Now Reed is stuck with the prospect of playing somewhere he doesn't want to for more money or signing for less and ending his career in Baltimore. Ozzie is one smart gm. This is all just speculation on my part of course.

badboy
03-18-2013, 08:22 PM
If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?

better player makes it better deal.

bOODRO87
03-18-2013, 08:23 PM
I honestly never saw him wanting to come here. Just like Chris Myers going to Tennessee for a visit. Leverage.

2013 sure is setting up nicely.

pec0sb0b
03-18-2013, 08:23 PM
I always felt Manning would be the best fit at free safety. He played free safety and nickel back for the Bears. It shouldn't be that hard to find a run-stopper to play strong safety.

Uncle Rico
03-18-2013, 08:28 PM
Could all you guys who are certain that Ed Reed is a scrub and all of a sudden is a worthless football player please expand on those comments? Provide some kind of substantial proof that he will not play well next year, for whoever that is?

Annoying when 'fans' spew personal sentiment all over the place all the while blinded to the football ability. Ed Reed makes plays. He will make plays next year, why wouldnt he? Wasnt he making plays in the Super Bowl? What happened in 1 month that leads anyone to believe he is not worth a shot? Crazy talk.

aussie_texan
03-18-2013, 08:29 PM
Could all you guys who are certain that Ed Reed is a scrub and all of a sudden is a worthless football player please expand on those comments? Provide some kind of substantial proof that he will not play well next year, for whoever that is?

Annoying when 'fans' spew personal sentiment all over the place all the while blinded to the football ability. Ed Reed makes plays. He will make plays next year, why wouldnt he? Wasnt he making plays in the Super Bowl? What happened in 1 month that leads anyone to believe he is not worth a shot? Crazy talk.

Lol

infantrycak
03-18-2013, 08:36 PM
If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?

Aging Ed Reed had 1 less INT last year than Quin has had in his 4 year career.

thunderkyss
03-18-2013, 09:21 PM
It was a down year for him no doubt, but he played with some very average players all year as well.

Didn't Baltimore have CB problems this year? If we sign him he won't be the best player in our secondary. it'll be sick.

Texan_Bill
03-18-2013, 09:24 PM
Aging Ed Reed had 1 less INT last year than Quin has had in his 4 year career.

Absolutely!!!

It was important for the Texans to retain Quin, but....

and Dread-Head likes big butts and can not lie....'

I digress, Ed Reed even at his age is a significant upgrade over Quin... Quin's upside was his age. His younger age.

As an aside.....

I suggested many pages ago in this same thread, the Texans got "Leigh Boddened'd"...

At the end of the day, I'm not pannicking over losing Quin, or apparently being duped by Ed Reed. This actually happens to be a pretty strong draft class for safeties...

In other words, why wouldn't Ed Reed visit a contender who are hungry for a safety? Up his value to A) Baltimore and B) Teams that can overspend.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 09:45 PM
Yeah, Webb got hurt against Dallas right before they played us if I remember right and they never really could find someone to fill the void on the other side. They all just couldn't get it done. Factor in a hobbled Suggs and Ngata, aging Lewis, and suspect players around him then its no wonder that Reed didn't look great last year.

eriadoc
03-18-2013, 09:48 PM
Could all you guys who are certain that Ed Reed is a scrub and all of a sudden is a worthless football player please expand on those comments?

Who said he was a scrub, or worthless?

To answer the root question of what I hope is hyperbole, all anyone said is that Quin was a better player last year. Others disagree. That's fine, but it's hard to seriously make the case that one is head and shoulders above the other.

Burn %: Quin - 48.4%, Reed 55.6%
Yds allwed rec.: Quin - 334, Reed - 457

Also, Quin was better in tackling, while Reed had 4 INTs to Quin's 2. How that translates across systems is anyone's guess, but neither one are a scrub or worthless. Neither one is head and shoulders ahead of Reed. I think Quin was the better player last year, and I think Quin will never be half the player Reed has been over his career. Do with that what you will, I guess.

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 09:48 PM
And quit stalking me.

Wait, you make posts on a public forum, get called out ad then whine about someone stalking you?

Don't put crap out in Cyberspace....pretty simple...

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 09:52 PM
Didn't Baltimore have CB problems this year? If we sign him he won't be the best player in our secondary. it'll be sick.

Not really- we lost Ladarious Webb in Week 8 to an ACL- he was our best CB. Cary Williams played really ell for us down the stretch, Jimmy Smith, former 1st rder, got hurt but came on in the playoffs. Corey Graham played really well (made C Williams expendable in FA this year), and someother young guys held up well. Pollard was a beast back tere in coverage- we played 2 high or cover 2 most of the time with some single high safety (Reed) or cover zero.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 09:55 PM
Not really- we lost Ladarious Webb in Week 8 to an ACL- he was our best CB. Cary Williams played really ell for us down the stretch, Jimmy Smith, former 1st rder, got hurt but came on in the playoffs. Corey Graham played really well (made C Williams expendable in FA this year), and someother young guys held up well. Pollard was a beast back tere in coverage- we played 2 high or cover 2 most of the time with some single high safety (Reed) or cover zero.

Didn't you have Brown from Texas playing for y'all? If so then you had corner problems.

WolverineFan
03-18-2013, 09:56 PM
I always felt Manning would be the best fit at free safety. He played free safety and nickel back for the Bears. It shouldn't be that hard to find a run-stopper to play strong safety.

Bernard Pollard?

Just kidding. My real answer is Matt Elam. Which I have been screaming for what seems like 3-4 months now.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 09:57 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/03/texans-report-houston-no-closer-to-landing-ball-hawk-reed/

Texans report: Houston no closer to landing ball-hawk Reed

Although general manager Rick Smith and agent David Dunn have talked about free agent free safety Ed Reed since they arrived at the league meetings, they don’t appear to be closer to getting a deal done.

Obviously, Reed wants more than the Texans are offering, but they’re limited by the salary cap. They place a value on players, and it’s difficult to get them to budge.

TexanBacker93
03-18-2013, 09:58 PM
Not really- we lost Ladarious Webb in Week 8 to an ACL- he was our best CB. Cary Williams played really ell for us down the stretch, Jimmy Smith, former 1st rder, got hurt but came on in the playoffs. Corey Graham played really well (made C Williams expendable in FA this year), and someother young guys held up well. Pollard was a beast back tere in coverage- we played 2 high or cover 2 most of the time with some single high safety (Reed) or cover zero.

Webb was hurt in week 6 against Dallas.

TexanBacker93
03-18-2013, 10:03 PM
If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?

I don't think they want to sign anyone to more than 2 years right now.

Gotta plan for Watt.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 10:07 PM
Its dumb for the Texans to be haggling over 2 million if this is indeed the case. Meet in the middle and make it work. Yeah, it sounds silly for me to make it sound so easy but its also silly to send your GM on the team plane if you're not willing to do what it takes to get him signed.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 10:09 PM
Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun
On Reed: "He's going to have to come back to Ozzie and say, ‘Can you squeeze this # into your cap?’ and Ozzie is going to make a decision."

TexanBacker93
03-18-2013, 10:12 PM
Its dumb for the Texans to be haggling over 2 million if this is indeed the case. Meet in the middle and make it work. Yeah, it sounds silly for me to make it sound so easy but its also silly to send your GM on the team plane if you're not willing to do what it takes to get him signed.

I don't think we're haggling. Reed is trying to get what we offered from Baltimore. At least that's how I see it.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 10:14 PM
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Sources say Texans' initial offer for Ed Reed came in lower than expected, which is why there wasn't a fast deal. But they're still in it

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 10:14 PM
Baltimore Ravens starting safety Ed Reed told Adam Schein of SiriusXM NFL Radio today that he's "not 100 percent committed" to playing this season, triggering a collective gasp among Ravens fans who have dealt with more than their fair share of upsetting news regarding their defense this offseason.

This isn't the first time in his career that Reed has threatened to hang up his cleats, and it's certainly not the first time in 2012 he's declared interest in retirement. In March, the matter seemed to be weighing on Reed's mind. He claimed, practically in the same breath, that he wasn't sure if he'd play this season and that he'd like four or five more seasons with Baltimore.

Then, just a few days later, Reed spoke out again, saying that he felt the Ravens "disrespected" him, presumably because they didn't respond to his earlier comments about wanting to stick around. Reed is in the final year of his contract, and he clearly hoped that his claim that he has up to five seasons left in him would have them come calling with an offer.


Indeed, NFL Network's Albert Breer believes that Reed's latest comments are part of his strategy to land a new contract with the Ravens. I am prone to agree with this sentiment; Reed is attempting to play a high-risk game of chicken with Baltimore in order to gain leverage in contract negotiations.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1187125-baltimore-ravens-safety-ed-reed-brings-up-retirement-again-is-he-bluffing

This is Ed from LAST year......you never know with him.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 10:15 PM
I don't think we're haggling. Reed is trying to get what we offered from Baltimore. At least that's how I see it.

I don't see it that way. I think his preference is to get as much money in his last contract as possible. I think he'll take it from anyone.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 10:18 PM
Ed Reed is starting to become a major pain in the Texans ass.

Uncle Rico
03-18-2013, 10:20 PM
I don't see it that way. I think his preference is to get as much money in his last contract as possible. I think he'll take it from anyone.

We have a winner! Johnny, tell him what he's won!

michaelm
03-18-2013, 10:32 PM
I'd be freakin ecstatic if the Texans withdrew their offer and moved on.

Not. Worth. It.

CloakNNNdagger
03-18-2013, 10:40 PM
its dumb for the texans to be haggling over 2 million if this is indeed the case. Meet in the middle and make it work. Yeah, it sounds silly for me to make it sound so easy but its also silly to send your gm on the team plane if you're not willing to do what it takes to get him signed.

period!

powda
03-18-2013, 10:41 PM
Not. Worth. It.

Exactly. They'd be paying for a brand. Cut bait.

Nawzer
03-18-2013, 10:42 PM
We have a winner! Johnny, tell him what he's won!

Hey Uncle Rico. Can you play safety as well as you can throw a pigskin? I heard you can throw over them mountains.

powda
03-18-2013, 10:44 PM
Hey Uncle Rico, can you play safety as well as you can throw a pigskin which I heard you can throw over them mountains?

Heck yes he can. And they'd have made it to the state championship game if the coach had put him in.

ArlingtonTexan
03-18-2013, 10:53 PM
period!

If the Texans already knew they were not going to money whip Reed, they had pull out another type of sales job. Even when dealing with Baltimore, Reed has come off as having a good bit of diva to him.

Edit: BTW, i am not sure that the Texans would not be off signing two or three boring, but solid need fillers than messing around with the "name-brand" player here. this is really out character for them.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 10:56 PM
If the Texans already knew they were not going to money whip Reed, they had pull out another type of sales job. Even when dealing with Baltimore, Reed has come off as having a good bit of diva to him.

Naw, I don't see that. Reed is a warrior. He knows that his shelf life is short and wants to maximize it.

The Pencil Neck
03-18-2013, 10:58 PM
I wouldn't mind if we signed Reed but I'm not going to be upset if we don't, either.

He's old and he's past his prime. I'm not expecting him to come here and rejuvenate the defense like JJo and Manning did. I see him as a stop-gap, patch-up-the-position for a while player. I expect us to draft a mid-round safety and try to bring him along quickly.

I wish we'd sign some guys soon so we'd know more about the plan for the coming season. I hope we're not planning on pinning all of our starter and depth holes on rookies.

ArlingtonTexan
03-18-2013, 10:59 PM
Naw, I don't see that. Reed is a warrior. He knows that his shelf life is short and wants to maximize it.

Not on the field...sorry I was not specific there.

steelbtexan
03-18-2013, 11:02 PM
If the Texans already knew they were not going to money whip Reed, they had pull out another type of sales job. Even when dealing with Baltimore, Reed has come off as having a good bit of diva to him.

Edit: BTW, i am not sure that the Texans would not be off signing two or three boring, but solid need fillers than messing around with the "name-brand" player here. this is really out character for them.

Getting an all-pro, championship caliber player in FA would certainly be out of character.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 11:02 PM
Not on the field...sorry I was not specific there.

What makes him a diva?

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 11:07 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-are-ravens-texans-in-a-real-tug-of-war-for-ed-reed-20130318,0,7876431.story

As the Houston Texans continue to haggle with the agent for veteran free safety Ed Reed following his free agent visit last Friday, the Super Bowl champion Ravens haven't closed the door on trying to retain the former NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

To characterize the situation as a true financial competition would be a bit of an overstatement, though.

The Ravens' tight salary-cap situation could preclude them from making Reed a major negotiating priority. Plus, the 34-year's old age, durability concerns and decline in range could work against a reunion with the Ravens.

The Ravens would like to have Reed back, but not for $6 million annually and definitely not for the $7.2 million he made in the final year of his expired six-year, $44.5 million contract.


As for the Texans, a league source with knowledge of the situation characterized the Texans' initial three-year offer as low enough that a fast deal was unrealistic. Talks are ongoing with the Texans and Reed's agent, David Dunn, who has kept Ravens team officials informed of what's going on as both teams and Dunn attend the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix.

And players for both the Ravens and Texans remain hopeful that Reed chooses their team, but it appears that the Texans are willing to commit more money to the nine-time Pro Bowl selection.

"Any team that's fortunate enough to get him is getting a Hall of Fame player," Texans quarterback Matt Schaub told The Baltimore Sun tonight at the Ed Block Courage award banquet at Martin's West. "He's one of the best if not the best safety to ever play the game and still in his prime. If you can add that kind of player, the leadership, the intensity he brings to his job, he's going to make the whole team better. It's the nature of the business. We'll see what happens."

Ravens wide receiver Torrey Smith, who attended the event and accepted Ravens outside linebacker Terrell Suggs' award on his behalf, said he has remained in touch with Reed throughout the process.

"That's the business side of it," Smith said. "It's tough for a lot of people to understand, especially the fans. We'll see what happens. I hope he ends up back in Baltimore. I've been texting him, not about what's going on, but just talking to him and seeing how he's doing. W'ell see.

"He always has a positive attitude. Fans are killing him on Twitter, but he's taking it in stride. He's enjoying it."

Former Ravens cornerback Chris Carr, who was in town to accept an award for San Diego Chargers teammate Quentin Jammer, is hopeful that Reed will conclude his career in Baltimore by signing one more contract with the Ravens.

"It's difficult," Carr said. "Once a player starts getting older, organizations don't want to invest in a player that's older. Ed Reed has been such a special player and he means so much, not only on the football field, but as a leader and teaching a lot of the young guys what to do in that secondary. Especially with Bernard Pollard leaving, I think it's really vital for the Ravens to sign him back.

"As a fan and a former Raven, I hope he stays here in Baltimore. It's unfortunate so many players who were part of the success are gone. It's the business and the salary cap doesn't give you too much wiggle room."

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 11:14 PM
What makes him a diva?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1187125-baltimore-ravens-safety-ed-reed-brings-up-retirement-again-is-he-bluffing

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 11:15 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1187125-baltimore-ravens-safety-ed-reed-brings-up-retirement-again-is-he-bluffing

So using his only source of leverage to get a new contract makes him a diva? Ok.

Uncle Rico
03-18-2013, 11:17 PM
No, I cant play safety, thats my nephew, he has the moves!

to me it sure sounds like a ringing endorsement from Schaub in that quote. Hmmmm i guess Ed Reed is Texan material after all, I mean if Schaub says it I'm sure some of the dudes on the fence will definitely be all for it now! LOL

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 11:17 PM
So using his only source of leverage to get a new contract makes him a diva? Ok.

I didn't say that- I posted a link to an article that shows how Ed Reed can change his mind and then in the same sentence change it again.

That's all.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 11:19 PM
I didn't say that- I posted a link to an article that shows how Ed Reed can change his mind and then in the same sentence change it again.

That's all.

So he's human? Cool..... thanks for clarifying.

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 11:20 PM
"As for the Texans, a league source with knowledge of the situation characterized the Texans' initial three-year offer as low enough that a fast deal was unrealistic. Talks are ongoing with the Texans and Reed's agent, David Dunn, who has kept Ravens team officials informed of what's going on as both teams and Dunn attend the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix."


Low balling....

Corrosion
03-18-2013, 11:21 PM
"As for the Texans, a league source with knowledge of the situation characterized the Texans' initial three-year offer as low enough that a fast deal was unrealistic. Talks are ongoing with the Texans and Reed's agent, David Dunn, who has kept Ravens team officials informed of what's going on as both teams and Dunn attend the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix."


Low balling....

Do you really blame them for low balling when they have limited cap resources , many holes to fill and nine draft picks four of which are in the top 100 ?!

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 11:21 PM
So he's human? Cool..... thanks for clarifying.

Not sure why you are acting like this; Ed Reed is a strange bird- moves to his own beat.....to say he is normal is less than forthright.

Texn4life
03-18-2013, 11:22 PM
"As for the Texans, a league source with knowledge of the situation characterized the Texans' initial three-year offer as low enough that a fast deal was unrealistic. Talks are ongoing with the Texans and Reed's agent, David Dunn, who has kept Ravens team officials informed of what's going on as both teams and Dunn attend the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix."


Low balling....

And it sounds like y'all are no balling...... so let me ask you this..... will the Ravens fans be happy if he comes back because y'all have been trashing him.

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 11:22 PM
Do you really blame them for low balling when they have limited cap resources , many holes to fill and nine draft picks four of which are in the top 100 ?!

Then don't send the GM on the owner's plane.

Uncle Rico
03-18-2013, 11:30 PM
I'm free balling right now, does that count?

handswarmer
03-18-2013, 11:34 PM
And it sounds like y'all are no balling...... so let me ask you this..... will the Ravens fans be happy if he comes back because y'all have been trashing him.

I can't or shouldn't speak for the rest of Ravens fandom so I will say this:

My opinion is that I would like to see Ed play out his career in Purple- Ravens purple like Jon Ogden and Ray Lewis; the other two HoF'ers.

I always wish the iconic players would stay with their team and retire rather than chase a paycheck- It broke my heart to see Johnny U in powder Blue for a year...

GP
03-18-2013, 11:40 PM
My sources continue to say Ed Reed is definitely not signing with the Texans, but might sign with the Texans, or not, and possibly will sign with the Ravens, or the Texans, or retire...and he was spotted skydiving into Lambeau Field where he met with Brett Favre....so, either this means Ed Reed is maybe signing with the Packers OR we're getting Favre as our QB.

Don't blame me. That's what my sources are saying, while tripping balls on rad shrooms in the danky basement of some old lady's house in Pearland.

ASidd_1990
03-18-2013, 11:49 PM
Sources close to the situation believe they sighted Ed Reed at First Colony Mall in Sugar Land.

Tesuns
03-18-2013, 11:58 PM
Why can't E.Reed just retired?!?!?! If not for his relationship with AJ, these talks should of been over. We are basically holding hostage by Reed, who clearly trying to get top dollars from his first choice the Ravens. If not for his new agent that he just hired, this would of been a done deal for both teams. We will be doing this next season again when he tinkers with retirement again.

False Start
03-19-2013, 12:48 AM
I saw Ed Reed at the corner store, he was 3 cents short, took a a dime out of the "give a penny take a penny" dish.... waited for the change, and kept it. :wadepalm:

Vinny
03-19-2013, 12:49 AM
My understanding is that we had a "strong push" to sign Reed....but turns out it was unrealistic. As for the Texans, a league source with knowledge of the situation characterized the Texans' initial three-year offer as low enough that a fast deal was unrealistic. http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-are-ravens-texans-in-a-real-tug-of-war-for-ed-reed-20130318,0,7876431.story

thunderkyss
03-19-2013, 06:52 AM
Burn %: Quin - 48.4%, Reed 55.6%
Yds allwed rec.: Quin - 334, Reed - 457

Also, Quin was better in tackling, while Reed had 4 INTs to Quin's 2. How that translates across systems is anyone's guess, but neither one are a scrub or worthless. Neither one is head and shoulders ahead of Reed. I think Quin was the better player last year, and I think Quin will never be half the player Reed has been over his career. Do with that what you will, I guess.

I understand what you're saying. & I know what the stats are saying. But how do you compare the burn rate of a FS to the burn rate of a SS, especially when they play in completely different schemes.

Ed Reed is normally hanging back, playing centerfield, watching 2 players or more where Quin is normally in some kind of man responsibility whether he's backed up or in the box.

I like Quin. I don't think Reed can play the way Wade used him. I don't think Jarius Byrd or any of the Safeties rated higher than him can play like he does.

If we were talking Byrd vs Reed, those stats would hold more water (with me), or Pollard vs Quin.

If I had my rathers, I'd prefer Quin & Reed, but the Texans weren't going to sign Quin, drop Manning, & sign Reed.

thunderkyss
03-19-2013, 06:56 AM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/03/texans-report-houston-no-closer-to-landing-ball-hawk-reed/
Obviously, Reed wants more than the Texans are offering, but they’re limited by the salary cap. They place a value on players, and it’s difficult to get them to budge.

I may have to start liking Rick Smith.

mussop
03-19-2013, 06:59 AM
My sources continue to say Ed Reed is definitely not signing with the Texans, but might sign with the Texans, or not, and possibly will sign with the Ravens, or the Texans, or retire...and he was spotted skydiving into Lambeau Field where he met with Brett Favre....so, either this means Ed Reed is maybe signing with the Packers OR we're getting Favre as our QB.

Don't blame me. That's what my sources are saying, while tripping balls on rad shrooms in the danky basement of some old lady's house in Pearland.

I think we have the same source. Says something will happen in the next 48 hours.

Craig.
03-19-2013, 07:50 AM
My sources continue to say Ed Reed is definitely not signing with the Texans, but might sign with the Texans, or not, and possibly will sign with the Ravens, or the Texans, or retire...and he was spotted skydiving into Lambeau Field where he met with Brett Favre....so, either this means Ed Reed is maybe signing with the Packers OR we're getting Favre as our QB.

Don't blame me. That's what my sources are saying, while tripping balls on rad shrooms in the danky basement of some old lady's house in Pearland.

Your source has no credibility. I defy you to find a basement in Pearland.

IDEXAN
03-19-2013, 08:16 AM
I think we have the same source. Says something will happen in the next 48 hours.
But who cares ?

thunderkyss
03-19-2013, 08:23 AM
I don't see it that way. I think his preference is to get as much money in his last contract as possible. I think he'll take it from anyone.

I don't know. I feel like he would have taken $7M back to the Ravens if that's what we had offered him.

However, I wasn't sitting in the room with him, so my "feel" may be way off base. I'd like to think if Rick Smith thought he would sign for $7M it would be a done deal.

Now, I used to sell cars for a living (that was a long time ago) & I know many times it's not the deal itself that is important, but the perception of it. Like the Barwin deal, I'm sure there is a way to structure this thing so that Reed can walk away saying he's got a $7M/yr deal when only $5.5 is guaranteed this year.

I think I could have closed him. Understand I am talking out of my ass being that I've never talked to anyone about "settling" for $5.5M/yr

mussop
03-19-2013, 08:31 AM
But who cares ?

47 hours

thunderkyss
03-19-2013, 08:35 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-are-ravens-texans-in-a-real-tug-of-war-for-ed-reed-20130318,0,7876431.story
As for the Texans, a league source with knowledge of the situation characterized the Texans' initial three-year offer as low enough that a fast deal was unrealistic.


This is the bad part imo, & reason the Texans should have egg on their face.

:vincepalm:

If you're going to go all, "Moving on up" on him, send out the Jet, roll out the red carpet, wine & dine.... then get all "unrealistic" when it's time to start talking money, then what's the point?

Grid
03-19-2013, 08:39 AM
This is the bad part imo, & reason the Texans should have egg on their face.

:vincepalm:

If you're going to go all, "Moving on up" on him, send out the Jet, roll out the red carpet, wine & dine.... then get all "unrealistic" when it's time to start talking money, then what's the point?


Probably exactly why they took out all the stops. Look at our beautiful facility, look at how good we treat our players, look at our great city and look at how excited the fans are.. now please come play for us on the cheap.


Ive been really busy lately so I havent been able to keep up with the Texans like I usually do.. but from someone who is just reading the headlines.. it appears as though we are dead set on not making the playoffs for a third time.

If things dont improve soon we are gonna be looking at another few years of rebuilding come 2014.

Rey
03-19-2013, 08:46 AM
If I'm Ed reed I'd take a little less money to go back to Baltimore. Really I'd have little interest in joining the texans for several reasons.

This is a dead issue as far as I'm concerned.

handswarmer
03-19-2013, 09:01 AM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/03/texans-report-houston-no-closer-to-landing-ball-hawk-reed/

Smart GM's and well run FO's do that (place a value on a player and not budge from it) on a regular basis- its the only smart way to do business in the NFL these days.

Look at the last few SB champs: they build through the draft, undrafted FA's and signing depth thru Veteran FA aquisitions. Steelers, Giants, Pats, Ravens,Packers, etc....

Playoffs
03-19-2013, 09:27 AM
My sources tell me the Texans put on the whole dog & pony show out of respect for A.J.'s desire to have his buddy here -- but it stopped at an exorbitant contract number.

My sources also say Taylor Swift is about to write a song about Matt Turk -- who knew they were dating? -- and that may delay the Texans bringing Turk back into the fold. :kitten:

michaelm
03-19-2013, 09:27 AM
This is the bad part imo, & reason the Texans should have egg on their face.

:vincepalm:

If you're going to go all, "Moving on up" on him, send out the Jet, roll out the red carpet, wine & dine.... then get all "unrealistic" when it's time to start talking money, then what's the point?

I'd guess they were taking out all stops for the things they could offer outside of the salary cap, because they are limited with the actual cap.

otisbean
03-19-2013, 09:35 AM
This is the bad part imo, & reason the Texans should have egg on their face.

:vincepalm:

If you're going to go all, "Moving on up" on him, send out the Jet, roll out the red carpet, wine & dine.... then get all "unrealistic" when it's time to start talking money, then what's the point?

If I'm not mistaking they offered 5mil per year to Reed, that seems like a fair offer for a player at his stage in his career, no?

HOU-TEX
03-19-2013, 09:43 AM
If Reed isn't liking what the market thinks he's worth, he should retire.

The Texans need to move their ass on to plan B at the position and quit dickin with this guy if he's looking to get overpaid. Personally, I don't think he's even worth what we're currently offering.

CloakNNNdagger
03-19-2013, 09:54 AM
THREE years???? A three year contract???? I hope if that report is accurate, the first 2 years are the only ones that have significant guaranteed money!

HoustonFrog
03-19-2013, 10:18 AM
Rumor is that people are seeing him here in Chicago..not talking to the Bears but shopping at the American Girl Doll store on Michigan avenue...he is a doll collector...allegedly. Take that for what its worth.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-19-2013, 10:23 AM
If Reed isn't liking what the market thinks he's worth, he should retire.

The Texans need to move their ass on to plan B at the position and quit dickin with this guy if he's looking to get overpaid. Personally, I don't think he's even worth what we're currently offering.

If I were Reed, I would stick around for another year or two before retire as there still money to be made. We are talking about at least 4~5 Mil $ x 2 years right? Would you retire and give up that kind of money? After retirement, there's no guaranteed money. I would like to secure with more money before my retirement. Wouldn't you?

thunderkyss
03-19-2013, 10:45 AM
If I'm not mistaking they offered 5mil per year to Reed, that seems like a fair offer for a player at his stage in his career, no?

Obviously someone thinks that was "unrealistic" that's what was in the quoted article.

Personally I think $5M is a good number, but I don't know if it's a "need to jump on it right now" good number. Bringing him in as early as we did in the FA period, sending out the Jet & overall making a big deal out of it, if we weren't prepared to throw out a "need to jump on it right now" good number, we shouldn't have wasted our time.

"We'll guarantee you $5.5M in 2013. We'll guarantee you $5.5M in 2014. What are you willing to guarantee for an extra $1.5M?"

Because I'm willing to pay a man of Mr.Reeds stature & reputation $7M but I need some guarantees. Guarantee me 16 games & I'll get you $500K. Guarantee me 5 INts & I'll get you $500K. Guarantee me less than a dozen missed tackles & I'll get you $500K. Guarantee me a touchdown & I'll get you $500K.


I should have been an NFL general manager

Rey
03-19-2013, 10:54 AM
The texans need Ed reed more than Ed reed needs the texans.

blitz90
03-19-2013, 10:58 AM
Just heard the deal should be final tonight.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 11:00 AM
Just heard the deal should be final tonight.
?? ?

blitz90
03-19-2013, 11:00 AM
610 sports is reporting this.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 11:01 AM
The texans need Ed reed more than Ed reed needs the texans.

If the Texans have the best offer and no other team is in it, then Reed needs the Texans.

blitz90
03-19-2013, 11:01 AM
Here's the quote

"A Texans deal with Ed Reed will reportedly become official tonight" - 610 Sports

ObsiWan
03-19-2013, 11:04 AM
We would get the equivalent of Ken Stabler in Houston, Joe Namith in LA, and Earl Campbell in New Orleans.

I'm beginning to agree with you. Although Joe Montana gave K.C. a playoff run they hadn't had in years when he showed up in their red uni. The other guys, not so much.

Why should we pad Ed Reed's retirement fund? I'm starting to think this is a really bad idea.

Go get Dumervil.

htowntexans1985
03-19-2013, 11:05 AM
Here's the link from 610. Doesnt say much


http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/03/19/looks-like-ed-reed-could-be-leaning-toward-being-a-texan/

mussop
03-19-2013, 11:09 AM
I think we have the same source. Says something will happen in the next 48 hours.

Told you! :photos:

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 11:15 AM
Here's the link from 610. Doesnt say much


http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/03/19/looks-like-ed-reed-could-be-leaning-toward-being-a-texan/

OMG did 610 really cite Incarcerated Bob as a real source? SMH

Anna Megan is stupid!

Rey
03-19-2013, 11:18 AM
The article contradicts itself. I don't understand it.

Begins saying the Houston deal is better, then says reed expected to remain a raven...

htowntexans1985
03-19-2013, 11:21 AM
OMG did 610 really cite Incarcerated Bob as a real source? SMH

Anna Megan is stupid!


Lol!!! I would take this report with a boulder size grain of salt as well. If burger boy McClain hasnt reported it, I have my suspicions.

Rey
03-19-2013, 11:23 AM
If the Texans have the best offer and no other team is in it, then Reed needs the Texans.

If that were the case he'd have already signed or the texans would have backed out.

Reed would have caught his own flight to Houston and we wouldn't have wined and dined him on bob's personal jet.

badboy
03-19-2013, 11:26 AM
After so many "chicken little" reports, I will have to have pretty certain info to believe anything.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-19-2013, 11:37 AM
The article contradicts itself. I don't understand it.

Begins saying the Houston deal is better, then says reed expected to remain a raven...

Bold part is quoted last week I think.

Rey
03-19-2013, 11:45 AM
Bold part is quoted last week I think.

That's how I read it at first, but then I figured that it was referring to the actual quote from reed afterward since it says "reed told"...

Poorly written.

htown2012
03-19-2013, 11:51 AM
Hey can anyone confirm if IBNSportsWrap- is legit? Have they ever been right before anyone else announce it?

b0ng
03-19-2013, 11:56 AM
I have a hard time being mad at Rick Smith for offering Reed around $5m a year (if reports indicated are true). I think $6m is a little too much (which isn't to say that I'd completely hate the signing) and $7m is even more so.

mussop
03-19-2013, 11:56 AM
OMG did 610 really cite Incarcerated Bob as a real source? SMH

Anna Megan is stupid!

You are questioning sources after the BS you pulled earlier? Really?

Rey
03-19-2013, 11:56 AM
LoL...they changed the article...

Still kind of poorly written at the end and it's unclear what exactly its saying to me...

b0ng
03-19-2013, 12:01 PM
Hey can anyone confirm if IBNSportsWrap- is legit? Have they ever been right before anyone else announce it?

Incarcerated Bob is known for saying anything and everything is a possibility in hopes that something sticks. He's been right before only because he uses a "shotgun" approach to breaking sports news stories.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-19-2013, 12:01 PM
LoL...they changed the article...

Still kind of poorly written at the end and it's unclear what exactly its saying to me...

It's because Anna. She only got boobs and no brain.

mussop
03-19-2013, 12:57 PM
It's because Anna. She only got boobs and no brain.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. :cool:

htown2012
03-19-2013, 12:59 PM
Texans should just give him a take it or leave it offer.. thats it,,

we need to move on...Quality Free Agents are still out there to be had...

Maybe Dumervill will take 6 mill a year you never know..

SAMURAITEXAN
03-19-2013, 01:07 PM
Not that there is anything wrong with that. :cool:

True.:redface:

Malloy
03-19-2013, 01:16 PM
I've been stoked for so long and it's hard to keep up the level of exitement... Right now I'm starting to not give a damn... make something happen... :)

rolyat93
03-19-2013, 01:54 PM
Incarcerated Bob is known for saying anything and everything is a possibility in hopes that something sticks. He's been right before only because he uses a "shotgun" approach to breaking sports news stories.

He announced the deal with Reed was official a week ago. When he was wrong he deleted the tweets.


Dude's just a fan.:swatter:

Blake
03-19-2013, 02:01 PM
lol. Is Ed Reed still playing the Texans? Texans need to move on. There are plenty of vet safeties that wont cost what Ed will cost. Huff is just one example.

michaelm
03-19-2013, 02:05 PM
lol. Is Ed Reed still playing the Texans? Texans need to move on. There are plenty of vet safeties that wont cost what Ed will cost. Huff is just one example.

Agreed. Cut ties with the Reed situation and move on. I'd much rather the Texans throw that money at Dumervil and see if he bites.

b0ng
03-19-2013, 02:06 PM
He announced the deal with Reed was official a week ago. When he was wrong he deleted the tweets.


Dude's just a fan.:swatter:

Maybe the deal was official a week ago and every Texans fan is just in a timewarp where they don't know it yet.

Playoffs
03-19-2013, 02:27 PM
Not news:

There's a bit of drama that circles Ed Reed. Not unusual for him to take his time, stretch things out. He was eternally unhappy with his being http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/emot-airquote.gifdisrespected by the Ravens organization all last offseason. Lot's of "Will he or won't he?" media. Yada, yada, yada.

However it works out will be fine.
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CloakNNNdagger
03-19-2013, 02:30 PM
Pat Kirwan was interviewed on 610 a few minutes ago. He stated that, according to discussions around the owners' meeting, expect the 49rs to jump into the mix within the next 2 days.

drs23
03-19-2013, 02:33 PM
47 hours

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Vinny
03-19-2013, 02:39 PM
Pat Kirwan was interviewed on 610 a few minutes ago. He stated that, according to discussions around the owners' meeting, expect the 49rs to jump into the mix within the next 2 days.

McNair didn't sound too positive about signing Reed in his tone. He also said that the Quin, Casey and Barwin losses tied into resigning Cushing and Watt next season.

dalemurphy
03-19-2013, 02:47 PM
McNair didn't sound too positive about signing Reed in his tone. He also said that the Quin, Casey and Barwin losses tied into resigning Cushing and Watt next season.

If that is true, then the money issues are related to McNair's budget and not the limitations of the cap. It appears the organization may be using the salary cap very conventionally as a way to justify minimal expenses. I hope I am wrong, but it is appearing increasingly likely to be the case.

Rey
03-19-2013, 02:48 PM
Give me dj swearinger and Call it a day...

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 02:53 PM
So they offered him closer to 4 million than 5??? Lol Rick smiff

Playoffs
03-19-2013, 03:01 PM
So they offered him closer to 4 million than 5??? Lol Rick smiff

It's a more realistic price point for his production. Good on Texans F.O. for sticking to their guns. Can't throw dumb money around like Redskins have & Dolphins did -- freaking flat cap crap means you'll pay for it later.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2013, 03:06 PM
It's a more realistic price point for his production. Good on Texans F.O. for sticking to their guns. Can't throw dumb money around like Redskins have & Dolphins did -- freaking flat cap crap means you'll pay for it later.

Then they need to pull the offer and look elsewhere. No need to wine him if they were going to make an offer like that.

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 03:15 PM
Forget Ed Reed, let him go back to Baltimore.

We need to focus on other needs rather than safety.

Vinny
03-19-2013, 03:16 PM
So they offered him closer to 4 million than 5??? Lol Rick smiff
bluster

ASidd_1990
03-19-2013, 03:22 PM
So they offered him closer to 4 million than 5??? Lol Rick smiff

Good for Rick Smith...only time I'm agreeing with him.

Spending most of your cap space on Ed Reed is not smart. If they think they could get him at 4 million a year, then you could spend the rest on say Eric Winston or another pass rusher.

HoustonFrog
03-19-2013, 03:24 PM
This is the point, you go get a cheaper guy that can fill in until you draft someone....Sensabaugh (not a great option but knows Wade)...and forget throwing higher amounts of money at an older guy like Reed. Move along and get past it.