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djohn2oo8
03-20-2013, 05:20 PM
Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 3m Texans bringing in free agent punter Shane Lechler for a visit on Thursday

Goodwrench3
03-20-2013, 05:31 PM
Great Punter. Hope the Texans sign him

TheRealJoker
03-20-2013, 05:32 PM
Woohoo!

SCOTTexans
03-20-2013, 05:39 PM
Nice... :heh:

Brandon420tx
03-20-2013, 05:41 PM
I can't wait for this thread to hit 100 pages. Are we bringing him in on a private jet? All sarcasm aside, I would welcome this signing

HouSportsWriter
03-20-2013, 05:48 PM
I would rather get a amazing kicker. I like the idea of bringing in Shane, but I think it sends a bad message. I think we have a good punter. I would rather have seven points or even three then none at all.

htowntexans1985
03-20-2013, 05:53 PM
Kubiak & co. Getting ready for all the 3 and outs we are about to have. LOL.

HouSportsWriter
03-20-2013, 06:00 PM
Kubiak & co. Getting ready for all the 3 and outs we are about to have. LOL.

My thought exactly.

Schaub2Dre
03-20-2013, 06:10 PM
Actually if you look at the stats. Donnie Jones had a better year than Shane. Inside 20: 31% vs 26%. Net yardage was close, 40.5% vs 39%, in favor of Jones.

dtran04
03-20-2013, 06:16 PM
Hope he doesn't outkick the coverage. The Texans were SLOW on special teams last year.

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 06:23 PM
Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 3m Texans bringing in free agent punter Shane Lechler for a visit on Thursday

:drool:

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 06:26 PM
I would rather get a amazing kicker. I like the idea of bringing in Shane, but I think it sends a bad message. I think we have a good punter. I would rather have seven points or even three then none at all.

I don't know. We finished 7th in scoring (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1). As a team, we were 4th in rushing TDs, 15th in passing TDs.......

:kitten:


I'm just saying, someone had to be scoring all those points.

ArlingtonTexan
03-20-2013, 06:26 PM
I would rather get a amazing kicker. I like the idea of bringing in Shane, but I think it sends a bad message. I think we have a good punter. I would rather have seven points or even three then none at all.

Kubiak & co. Getting ready for all the 3 and outs we are about to have. LOL.


The texans currently have no punter under contract. They were going to add some a punter at somepoint in theoff-season. Getting one of the better ones in history is not reflective of anything deeper than filling a need with the best player a tean can.

HouSportsWriter
03-20-2013, 06:39 PM
I don't know. We finished 7th in scoring (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1). As a team, we were 4th in rushing TDs, 15th in passing TDs.......

:kitten:


I'm just saying, someone had to be scoring all those points.

Graham was hard for me to watch.

silentassassin
03-20-2013, 06:40 PM
Graham was hard for me to watch.

Hopefully Bullock is easier on the eyes.

HouSportsWriter
03-20-2013, 06:46 PM
:swatter:Hopefully Bullock is easier on the eyes.

That is the one position battle that I look forward to this preseason

Vance87
03-20-2013, 07:02 PM
Per McClain.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/03/punter-shane-lechler-to-visit-thursday/

PapaL
03-20-2013, 07:39 PM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99268

thunderkyss
03-20-2013, 07:43 PM
Hall of fame WR..... Andre Johnson; check
Hall of fame DB.... Ed Reed; check
Potential Hall of fame DE... Jj Watt; check
Hall of fame PK.. Shane Lechler; TBD



Championship!

texan279
03-20-2013, 07:46 PM
I want Lechler. Hopefully will come home and play for us at a discount.

TheMatrix31
03-20-2013, 07:46 PM
Hopefully we get him. Maybe kicking indoors for half the year will give him an added boost?

Special teams were killer last year. Moreso with returns than kicks/punts but overall bad.

Hey wait, why does Joe Marciano have a job still?

Vance87
03-20-2013, 07:52 PM
My bizzle.

PapaL
03-20-2013, 08:12 PM
I would rather get a amazing kicker. I like the idea of bringing in Shane, but I think it sends a bad message. I think we have a good punter. I would rather have seven points or even three then none at all.

Getting the best available player you can sends a bad message? That's just asinine thinking.

ST is 1/3 of the game and it's the third that we were the WORST at. Get the best guys you can and move on.

Fili
03-20-2013, 08:14 PM
We are going to be the nursing home of the NFL...

Doppelganger
03-20-2013, 08:14 PM
I would rather get a amazing kicker. I like the idea of bringing in Shane, but I think it sends a bad message. I think we have a good punter. I would rather have seven points or even three then none at all.

Jones was a below average punter.

BullNation4Life
03-20-2013, 08:23 PM
I want Lechler. Hopefully will come home and play for us at a discount.

or the Aggie discount....

BullNation4Life
03-20-2013, 08:24 PM
We are going to be the nursing home of the NFL...

why is that? Every Super Bowl caliber team has their fair share of good veterans on their team...

Playoffs
03-20-2013, 08:31 PM
Jones was a below average punter.

I disagree. He was actually rated at the top of the league in 2012 by PFF. Now the top guys are all pretty close. Point in case: put Lechler next to Jones in 2012 and they're numbers are +/- the same.


# Name Team Rating No. Yards LG Avg. Max.HT % Ret. BK TB OB Dn FC Ret RetYds In 20 Net Yds
1 Donnie Jones HST 32.5 88 4150 66 47.2 5.30 54.5 0 5 10 10 15 48 483 29 40.5

14 Shane Lechler OAK 18.6 81 3826 68 47.2 5.50 55.6 1 9 4 7 16 45 450 24 39.5

Sign whoever is cheapest, imo.

Doppelganger
03-20-2013, 08:47 PM
I disagree. He was actually rated at the top of the league in 2012 by PFF. Now the top guys are all pretty close. Point in case: put Lechler next to Jones in 2012 and they're numbers are +/- the same.


# Name Team Rating No. Yards LG Avg. Max.HT % Ret. BK TB OB Dn FC Ret RetYds In 20 Net Yds
1 Donnie Jones HST 32.5 88 4150 66 47.2 5.30 54.5 0 5 10 10 15 48 483 29 40.5

14 Shane Lechler OAK 18.6 81 3826 68 47.2 5.50 55.6 1 9 4 7 16 45 450 24 39.5

Sign whoever is cheapest, imo.

14/32 in punt average, tied for 13(with 4 others) inside 20. Maybe not below average, but average.

I advocate drafting a punter instead of signing either of them.

Uncle Rico
03-20-2013, 09:11 PM
Whats wrong with Donnie Jones? I thought he did a great job last year.

Hitman Hartman? What happened to that dude? He had a damn cannon, loved his kickoffs.

DX-TEX
03-20-2013, 09:12 PM
Whats wrong with Donnie Jones? I thought he did a great job last year.

Hitman Hartman? What happened to that dude? He had a damn cannon, loved his kickoffs.

Isnt he suing the Texans for the leg injury?

Titans Sux 72
03-20-2013, 09:23 PM
Isnt he suing the Texans for the leg injury?

Yes he is. He is persona non grata.

Texan_Bill
03-20-2013, 09:32 PM
Re: Shane Lechler to visit Texans

What??? Ray Guy wasn't available?

Kidding aside, Ray Guy and arguably Lechler are among the two greatest punters in the NFL. That said Donnie Jones did a fine job (and by a fine job, I mean good enough to NOT spend anymore money on that position).

Wolf6151
03-20-2013, 09:44 PM
We don't need an over priced old FA punter. We can get one late in the draft that will stay with the team for the next 10-15 yrs. or just keep Jones who was decent last season.

texan279
03-20-2013, 10:04 PM
Isnt he suing the Texans for the leg injury?

He is suing the agency that operates Reliant Stadium, not the Texans.

Insideop
03-21-2013, 12:55 AM
What??? Ray Guy wasn't available?

Kidding aside, Ray Guy and arguably Lechler are among the two greatest punters in the NFL. That said Donnie Jones did a fine job (and by a fine job, I mean good enough to NOT spend anymore money on that position).

I think Jones is a FA, so you will spend $$$ on that position anyway. Maybe Jones is asking for more money or a longer contract that the Texans are willing to give.

PapaL
03-21-2013, 01:11 AM
Hey maybe Ed Reed can punt? After all some of y'all don't wanna spend money on a punter and we have none under contract right now. 2 birds 1 stone.

Brisco_County
03-21-2013, 01:16 AM
We should launch a Twitter campaign like we did for Bodden. Just to confuse the hell out of the guy.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-21-2013, 05:45 AM
We should launch a Twitter campaign like we did for Bodden. Just to confuse the hell out of the guy.

Ha ha, now, now, be nice. After all, we are Texans' worthy fans!

CloakNNNdagger
03-21-2013, 10:06 AM
Whats wrong with Donnie Jones? I thought he did a great job last year.

Hitman Hartman? What happened to that dude? He had a damn cannon, loved his kickoffs.

Hartman has since required MULTIPLE knee surgeries..........his career for that reason alone is considered over.

VTexan
03-21-2013, 10:09 AM
We should launch a Twitter campaign like we did for Bodden. Just to confuse the hell out of the guy.

damn, i forgot about those times were we had to reach out to guys like bodden on twitter.


are we a big club now?

Brisco_County
03-21-2013, 10:10 AM
Hartman has since required MULTIPLE knee surgeries..........his career for that reason alone is considered over.

I'm venturing to guess that the Reliant turf was not the root cause of his health issues.

Ktexan68
03-21-2013, 10:27 AM
This would be a good pickup. Donnie Jones was horrible in the playoffs.

El Tejano
03-21-2013, 10:30 AM
This would be a good pickup. Donnie Jones was horrible in the playoffs.

A lot of people forget that for some reason.

thunderkyss
03-21-2013, 10:51 AM
I'm venturing to guess that the Reliant turf was not the root cause of his health issues.

I don't think it should matter. It's an embarrassment. They should get that field in shape, even if they have to pay out the yin-yang every year. They make enough money & I think the field is an eyesore.

If I were king, I'd have it planned to be swapped out every year at the bye week.

djohn2oo8
03-21-2013, 10:52 AM
Pancakes says he expects Lechler to sign here if he passes physical.

djohn2oo8
03-21-2013, 10:54 AM
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
I expect Lechler to sign with Texans if he checks out physically. They wanted him last time his contract was up.

Insideop
03-21-2013, 11:37 AM
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
I expect Lechler to sign with Texans if he checks out physically. They wanted him last time his contract was up.

This should be an OK signing if they don't overpay, but it's still a stop-gap measure to me, and they still need to draft a punter for the long haul IMO. Lechler probably has a couple of good years left in the tank and probably wants to play closer to home, especially since it's a playoff team. So maybe they can get a "hometown" discount. Can't imagine the deal being for more than 2 years.

powda
03-21-2013, 11:40 AM
So maybe they can get a "hometown" discount. Can't imagine the deal being for more than 2 years.

He's been talking about ending his career with the Texans since our franchise started up according to his high school buddy who still sees him occasionally. I think he'll do a discount.

Vinny
03-21-2013, 12:23 PM
I don't want to say I'm excited about a punter but I hope we get him signed.

HOU-TEX
03-21-2013, 12:33 PM
I don't want to say I'm excited about a punter but I hope we get him signed.

My feelings as well. I don't care much for any kickers, but we have to have them so might as well get the best

CloakNNNdagger
03-21-2013, 01:06 PM
FWIW, the reason the "passing the physical" was mentioned specifically, in the 2012 offseason, Lechler had an "undisclosed" left knee arthroscopy and missed TC on the "non-football injury list." He missed the first 2 preseason games. However subsequently went on to play in the 3rd and 4th and all 16 regular season games quite commendably.

An interesting ESPN piece from August 2012:

Punter Ranks: Shane Lechler No. 1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8252333/nfl-scouts-inc-2012-top-punter-rankings) (the rest of the top rankings are analyzed within the link)

Like with kickers, this is not a glamorous position and they are often only noticed when they screw something up. But having a great punter like Shane Lechler or Andy Lee can be a fantastic way to dominate field position with a booming punt or great directional punting to pin the opponent deep in their own end. A great punter can be a defense's best friend. And, for that matter, an offense's too.

Think about it. If you pin an opponent deep with a punt and hold them defensively, you gain field position while your offense sits on the sidelines. Combine a great punter with a big-legged kicker and it can add more than a few field goals to a team's point total by the end of the season.

Unlike with kickers though, punters need to be very good athletes. It can be a huge help with wayward snaps, trick plays and potentially making a game-saving tackle as the last layer of defense. All of those elements figure into the rankings below.

1
Shane Lechler

Lechler is a strong-legged punter who has learned how to be an accurate one as well, trying to hit the coffin corners or getting extra hang time on shorter punts.

He is a right-footed, three-step punter with excellent mechanics and a high follow through. He can speed up his motion when under pressure. He has solid hands and holds for field goals and PAT attempts.

76Texan
03-21-2013, 01:44 PM
14/32 in punt average, tied for 13(with 4 others) inside 20. Maybe not below average, but average.

I advocate drafting a punter instead of signing either of them.

Look at the hang time.

That should allow guys to get there a little sooner.

If our guys can get down there a yard or two deeper when the ball is fielded; it should help... Unless they miss the tackle, of course. lOL

Dutchrudder
03-21-2013, 02:07 PM
Look at the hang time.

That should allow guys to get there a little sooner.

If our guys can get down there a yard or two deeper when the ball is fielded; it should help... Unless they miss the tackle, of course. lOL

Yep, hang time is important too, and that doesn't really show up in the stats people of have posted.

I also have to say that there is a big difference in the Texans and Oakland offenses. I would imagine that Oakland's offense had Lechler punting from the Oakland half of the field more often than Donnie Jones did, which leads to less chances to down the ball inside the 20. Oaklands offense wasn't as good as the Texans, so I would imagine Lechler had poorer field position in general.

None of these stats take into account the gunners either, who may or may not be quality speedsters that can break out of blocks and make a play on the returnman or the ball. There are a lot of parts to punting that don't show up in those stats, so I have a real hard time saying one is better than the other by simply looking at net yards.

I really really really wish the NFL would make "shanks" an official stat (punts >25 yards), because that is something that doesn't show up in the stat lines. I know Jones only had a couple of these, but I'd like to know how many Lechler had last year.

Anyways, if the price is right, I'm all for bringing in Lechler, I just hope we aren't skipping a 5th round compensatory pick in doing so.

ASidd_1990
03-22-2013, 12:41 AM
Is Shane Lechler really that much of an upgrade to Donnie Jones?

I think punting was one of our strong spots in the special teams last season.

djohn2oo8
03-22-2013, 01:29 AM
Is Shane Lechler really that much of an upgrade to Donnie Jones?

I think punting was one of our strong spots in the special teams last season.

Donnie Jones was garbage in the playoffs. People have short memories I see.

otisbean
03-22-2013, 10:08 AM
Is Shane Lechler really that much of an upgrade to Donnie Jones?

I think punting was one of our strong spots in the special teams last season.

It's not even close. The Raiders are my other team and I can assure you Lechler is ridiculously good. HUGE upgrade.

Insideop
03-22-2013, 10:58 AM
It's not even close. The Raiders are my other team and I can assure you Lechler is ridiculously good. HUGE upgrade.

I know Lechler is probably one of the greatest punters of all time. I just hope he doesn't have a drop-off due to his age. Although, some punters, who keep themselves in good shape, have been able to punt into their 40's (Matt Turk) and still do OK. How old is Lechler?

DX-TEX
03-22-2013, 11:03 AM
He sign or is the Reed Watch 2.0?

tru80texan
03-22-2013, 11:05 AM
I know Lechler is probably one of the greatest punters of all time. I just hope he doesn't have a drop-off due to his age. Although, some punters, who keep themselves in good shape, have been able to punt into their 40's (Matt Turk) and still do OK. How old is Lechler?

Lechler is 36. Will be 37 in August if I recall correctly. I don't think age is an issue. He could possibly have a good 4-5 yrs left in him as a punter.

ChampionTexan
03-22-2013, 11:35 AM
I know Lechler is probably one of the greatest punters of all time. I just hope he doesn't have a drop-off due to his age. Although, some punters, who keep themselves in good shape, have been able to punt into their 40's (Matt Turk) and still do OK. How old is Lechler?

If I can get excited about a 35 YO safety, it would be easy to get excited about a 37 YO punter.

Hopefully things works out between the Texans and Shane.

badboy
03-22-2013, 11:45 AM
Ha ha, now, now, be nice. After all, we are Texans' worthy fans!I know I am but not sure about you. :hide::toast2:

SAMURAITEXAN
03-22-2013, 11:51 AM
I know I am but not sure about you. :hide::toast2:

I have to admit. I do have a very young and beautiful girlfriend(Huge difference in age) so, I may not be Texans' worthy fan. Heck, but I do have a very happy personal life at least!:shades:
Yeah, I do have off the field issue like chasing young ladies. I guess, I won't be drafted as water boy for the Texans. Maybe, UDFA.

HouSportsWriter
03-22-2013, 02:03 PM
I have to admit. I do have a very young and beautiful girlfriend(Huge difference in age) so, I may not be Texans' worthy fan. Heck, but I do have a very happy personal life at least!:shades:
Yeah, I do have off the field issue like chasing young ladies. I guess, I won't be drafted as water boy for the Texans. Maybe, UDFA.

I laughed way to loud in Kroger. When I saw this.

Maddict5
03-22-2013, 07:30 PM
like lechler even if he does outkick coverage more than id like but would rather keep donnie longball as he wont affect compensatory picks next year

PapaL
03-22-2013, 07:41 PM
like lechler even if he does outkick coverage more than id like but would rather keep donnie longball as he wont affect compensatory picks next year

You can't KEEP what you don't HAVE. He's a FA.

We have NO punter on our roster.

tru80texan
03-22-2013, 08:02 PM
like lechler even if he does outkick coverage more than id like but would rather keep donnie longball as he wont affect compensatory picks next year

I will take improving the team over worrying about the effect on comp picks any day. Lechler is still the better punter amongst the 2 & field position is half the battle. Especially when you got Kubiak calling the plays & Schaub running them, give them a 10pt lead & the offense goes into coast mode. the defense needs every advantage possible w/ the multiple 3 & outs by the offense sitting on a lead & pinning the opposition deep will help the defense tremendously. Normally I don't care about a punter being signed, but Lechler can create some advantages for the Texans & I would be happy if he was on board.

axman40
03-22-2013, 08:20 PM
Hall of fame WR..... Andre Johnson; check
Hall of fame DB.... Ed Reed; check
Potential Hall of fame DE... Jj Watt; check
Hall of fame PK.. Shane Lechler; TBD



Championship!
We need T. J. Houshmandzadeh!
:fans:

srrono
03-22-2013, 08:36 PM
We need T. J. Houshmandzadeh!
:fans:

2nd Hall of Fame WR Randy Moss lol

SAMURAITEXAN
03-22-2013, 08:52 PM
We need T. J. Houshmandzadeh!
:fans:

No, his last name is too long and I will have a hard time pronounce his name and If I try to call him by TJ, this will confuse more with TJ Yates.:D

ASidd_1990
03-22-2013, 09:04 PM
Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 40s
Texans reach a contract agreement with punter Shane Lechler.

aussie_texan
03-22-2013, 09:10 PM
@McClain_on_NFL: Texans have agreed to terms with P Shane Lechler.

Honoring Earl 34
03-22-2013, 09:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkp82TgP46U

thunderkyss
03-22-2013, 09:16 PM
@McClain_on_NFL: Texans have agreed to terms with P Shane Lechler.

Rick Smith is slowly becoming one of my favorite people..... need to see the terms, but...

Cerberus
03-22-2013, 09:23 PM
Texan fans will love having Lechler as their punter. The Raiders have a guy M. King they had on IR last year who will now become their punter.

Lech is probably the second best punter all-time.

srrono
03-22-2013, 09:25 PM
Rick Smith is slowly becoming one of my favorite people..... need to see the terms, but...

Where is all this cap room coming from? I am wondering if R.Smith has already restruture a couple contracts and not annouced it.

Texn4life
03-22-2013, 09:25 PM
Nice! Now I don't have to go to the bathroom and pray every time we punt the ball.

htowntexans1985
03-22-2013, 09:26 PM
Rick Smith is slowly becoming one of my favorite people..... need to see the terms, but...

Should be 1 to 2 mil. He gave us the good ol hometown discount.

Texn4life
03-22-2013, 09:28 PM
Can't Lechler also throw the ball? Maybe we'll actually pull off a fake this year.

srrono
03-22-2013, 09:32 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 43s

Houston gave former Raiders free-agent punter Shane Lechler a three-year contract. Lechler returns home to Houston.

Texn4life
03-22-2013, 09:36 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 43s

Houston gave former Raiders free-agent punter Shane Lechler a three-year contract. Lechler returns home to Houston.

Worth $5.5 million according to Schefter also with a $1 million signing bonus.

76Texan
03-22-2013, 09:38 PM
He got a 4-yr deal with the Raiders the last time ($4M per for a total of $16M, but $3M was in bonus - not signing bonus.)

I think we can expect something around $9M for 3 years, including performance bonus or roster bonus.)

SAMURAITEXAN
03-22-2013, 09:38 PM
This signing should improve our ST. Good job Rick. We are filling pieces one by one and I like it.

Go Texans!!!

76Texan
03-22-2013, 09:39 PM
Worth $5.5 million according to Schefter also with a $1 million signing bonus.

Wow, this new CBA is pulling all the second-tier money down.

That's a very good number right there.

badboy
03-22-2013, 09:40 PM
Another need filled with what appears to be a solid signing. NT next?

Texn4life
03-22-2013, 09:43 PM
Wow, this new CBA is pulling all the second-tier money down.

That's a very good number right there.

Absolutely....... It gives me hope that we may actually be able to make a couple of more things happen before the draft now. I definitely think FO is in win now mode. Reed was the top priority, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear about another target in the next few days.

76Texan
03-22-2013, 09:47 PM
Absolutely....... It gives me hope that we may actually be able to make a couple of more things happen before the draft now. I definitely think FO is in win now mode. Reed was the top priority, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear about another target in the next few days.

I doubt we'll sign anybody for more than the vet minimum from now on, unless there's a talent out there that is hard to resist (value-wise.)

But I agree; they just might go "win-now" mode on us.

76Texan
03-22-2013, 09:48 PM
Actually, as of right now, that's still top ten money for a punter; which is only right for a guy like SL.

GlassHalfFull
03-22-2013, 09:48 PM
Whoop!!!

We should have an all Aggie kicking crew next year.

Been hoping this one would come thru.

badboy
03-22-2013, 09:49 PM
Maybe someone could update thread title to signed?

Uncle Rico
03-22-2013, 09:49 PM
Yea no way he would get close to 10 MILL, i could have sworn I read something that said he wanted to play close to home and was willing to play at a 'discount'.

Texn4life
03-22-2013, 09:50 PM
I doubt we'll sign anybody for more than the vet minimum from now on, unless there's a talent out there that is hard to resist (value-wise.)

But I agree; they just might go "win-now" mode on us.

That's more along the lines of what I mean. Honestly there isn't much out there left to offer worth much more than that.

76Texan
03-22-2013, 09:54 PM
That's more along the lines of what I mean. Honestly there isn't much out there left to offer worth much more than that.

Sebastian Vollmer (RT) with a chronic bad back might have a lower value now.
But he's a beast when healthy.
Played right here at UH, too.

srrono
03-22-2013, 09:55 PM
Now we need to trade for Janikowski and our kicking game is set lol

CloakNNNdagger
03-22-2013, 09:58 PM
Can't Lechler also throw the ball? Maybe we'll actually pull off a fake this year.

He's thrown a TD pass both in college and a couple of years ago. In college he acted as the 3rd backup QB.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-22-2013, 09:59 PM
Whoop!!!

We should have an all Aggie kicking crew next year.

Been hoping this one would come thru.

Yep, Randy Bullock as our Kicker. Hope, he comes back strong from injury.

Nawzer
03-22-2013, 10:10 PM
I like this! Field position is key.

srrono
03-22-2013, 10:47 PM
I like this! Field position is key.

If our defense comes back around Lechler's leg will be a great weapon.

the wonger need food
03-22-2013, 10:51 PM
Good Friday for our Texans. Now have the best Safety and punter on the team's history. Now let's go get Urlacher to play 10-15 snaps a game and bring more leadership to the locker room.

badboy
03-22-2013, 11:20 PM
Sebastian Vollmer (RT) with a chronic bad back might have a lower value now.
But he's a beast when healthy.
Played right here at UH, too.think I'd rather re-sign Ryan Harris who should be healthier than Vollmer.

GP
03-22-2013, 11:48 PM
Wow, this new CBA is pulling all the second-tier money down.

That's a very good number right there.

That's something we've been discussing the past two weeks: The new CBA is altering today's contracts and will certainly impact things 1 to 2 years from now.

All those teams who were like $20 million or more under the cap, their players they signed this year to get to the minimum cap number (due to new CBA) they better LOVE those decisions now....because a couple years from now, they'll have to be on a level playing field.

I think if Rick can keep the Texans a solid playoff team for the next two seasons, all the great FAs will maybe want to come here since the money will all be pretty much equalized by then. The teams who are still 3 or 4 wins and 13 or 12 losses, they'll be spending the same dollars as us.

This is where a FO is either going to build a great future or really hamstring their team if they've spent poorly just for the sake of being able to NOW.

GP
03-22-2013, 11:49 PM
IIRC, the stats of Donnie Jones vs Lechler were practically identical, if not leaning in favor of Jones.

Corrosion
03-22-2013, 11:50 PM
Wow, this new CBA is pulling all the second-tier money down.

That's a very good number right there.

That is why the Texans didnt jump into FA with both feet at the opening bell. The big names are going to eat up most of the available money and the second tier guy's become bargins.

tru80texan
03-23-2013, 12:08 AM
IIRC, the stats of Donnie Jones vs Lechler were practically identical, if not leaning in favor of Jones.

This is true, but I think the big difference is that despite being almost equal most considered it a good yr for Jones & a somewhat down yr for Lechler. That alone just shows you who has the higher upside. Lechler is the better option of the 2, IMO, & I'm glad he is finally in Houston. Can't say I've ever been happy about signing a punter...1st time for everything.

GP
03-23-2013, 01:18 AM
This is true, but I think the big difference is that despite being almost equal most considered it a good yr for Jones & a somewhat down yr for Lechler. That alone just shows you who has the higher upside. Lechler is the better option of the 2, IMO, & I'm glad he is finally in Houston. Can't say I've ever been happy about signing a punter...1st time for everything.

Eh, well...maybe. Maybe not.

The moment he starts shanking off a 15-yard wobbler to the third row of the bleachers...the money and the risk of Jones having a down year better be enough to fend off a lot of angry fans' reactions.

I don't know if Jones' year was so decent that he's priced himself out of our range or what, but I'm in a wait and see mode on this one.

htownfan32
03-23-2013, 03:22 AM
From what I've heard, Donnie Jones had a better statistical year than Lechler... but he was shanking in the playoffs. Maybe Kubes just wants his Aggie? Aggie kicker, Aggie punter... Aggie long snapper next? :kitten:

Maddict5
03-23-2013, 04:42 AM
You can't KEEP what you don't HAVE. He's a FA.

We have NO punter on our roster.

i know he's a FA but he's an unsigned FA (that will prob take a vet min deal) and as he was a texan last yr he wouldnt have counted in the comp pick calculation

I will take improving the team over worrying about the effect on comp picks any day. Lechler is still the better punter amongst the 2 & field position is half the battle. Especially when you got Kubiak calling the plays & Schaub running them, give them a 10pt lead & the offense goes into coast mode. the defense needs every advantage possible w/ the multiple 3 & outs by the offense sitting on a lead & pinning the opposition deep will help the defense tremendously. Normally I don't care about a punter being signed, but Lechler can create some advantages for the Texans & I would be happy if he was on board.


thats assuming lechler is an upgrade. donnie played well last year and has the stats to back it up. if the two players are much of a muchness, why shouldnt that potential 5th or 6th rd pick come into the equation?

anyway im not gonna get too bothered about it since we've signed lechler now. he's a name but once he plays well too il have no problem with him

Corrosion
03-23-2013, 04:55 AM
From what I've heard, Donnie Jones had a better statistical year than Lechler... but he was shanking in the playoffs. Maybe Kubes just wants his Aggie? Aggie kicker, Aggie punter... Aggie long snapper next? :kitten:

Dont see how you get Gary making this decision. This is Rick Smith's roster to build. He's the GM ..... He makes the personel decisions tho Kubiak and the other coaches have some input , the final decision belongs to the GM.


Maybe they could avoid being questioned if they didnt sign any aggies .... Cant wait for Johnny Manziel to come out .... Its gonna be VY all over again.

TEXANRED
03-23-2013, 09:20 AM
Dont see how you get Gary making this decision. This is Rick Smith's roster to build. He's the GM ..... He makes the personel decisions tho Kubiak and the other coaches have some input , the final decision belongs to the GM.


Maybe they could avoid being questioned if they didnt sign any aggies .... Cant wait for Johnny Manziel to come out .... Its gonna be VY all over again.
I disagree with the bolded statement. Manziel will not be there at number 32 for us to draft him.

Corrosion
03-23-2013, 09:23 AM
I disagree with the bolded statement. Manziel will not be there at number 32 for us to draft him.

But we have to trade up!!

GlassHalfFull
03-23-2013, 09:41 AM
Dont see how you get Gary making this decision. This is Rick Smith's roster to build. He's the GM ..... He makes the personel decisions tho Kubiak and the other coaches have some input , the final decision belongs to the GM.


Maybe they could avoid being questioned if they didnt sign any aggies .... Cant wait for Johnny Manziel to come out .... Its gonna be VY all over again.

Don't worry, it is going to be Jerry Jones and Dallas who are all over Manziel. I hope for JFF's sake that Jerry doesn't win that battle.

GP
03-23-2013, 10:55 AM
Don't worry, it is going to be Jerry Jones and Dallas who are all over Manziel. I hope for JFF's sake that Jerry doesn't win that battle.

Jerry will give his entire draft, Romo, AND Herschel Walker to the team who has the #1 pick, in order to select Manziel.

I really think he'd sell and trade everything for what he thinks is his superstar QB.

What's funny is that he could have traded up for RG3 and then build around him this year going forward. I really thought he was crazy for not challenging Washington for that opportunity. RG3 would have been the playmaker that team needs.

Instead, they've got Tony Romo who is the biggest question mark at QB I've ever seen. Playing lights out one game, fumbling and stumbling the next game.

Vinny
03-23-2013, 11:55 AM
Shane Lechler signs with Texans for 3 years 5.5 mil

https://twitter.com/TexansTalk/status/315491777794699264

76Texan
03-23-2013, 11:57 AM
I don't know; Jerry seems to be in love with Romo still.
I read that they are close in the negotiation to rework his contract, which would terminate this year otherwise.

If there's a deal, it pretty much kills the hope of any Cowboys fan that has Johnny Football on his wish list.

Brisco_County
03-23-2013, 12:56 PM
think I'd rather re-sign Ryan Harris who should be healthier than Vollmer.

Harris has a bad back too.

DX-TEX
03-23-2013, 01:27 PM
Schaub contract will allow us to release him with minimal cap hit the same year Luck becomes a FA. Andrew coming home!!

Playoffs
03-23-2013, 01:51 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/files/2013/03/shane-600x400.jpg

steelbtexan
03-23-2013, 02:10 PM
From what I've heard, Donnie Jones had a better statistical year than Lechler... but he was shanking in the playoffs. Maybe Kubes just wants his Aggie? Aggie kicker, Aggie punter... Aggie long snapper next? :kitten:

Get ready for Swope,Micheal,Moore/Porter/Dustin Harris Maybe even Spencer Nealy etc... to be joining the Texans. LOL

GlassHalfFull
03-23-2013, 02:14 PM
Get ready for Swope,Micheal,Moore/Porter/Dustin Harris Maybe even Spencer Nealy etc... to be joining the Texans. LOL

I would take Swope in a heartbeat. Spencer Nealy would be a great late round pickup.....

mussop
03-23-2013, 02:36 PM
:gamer:Another need filled with what appears to be a solid signing. NT next?

Please please please!!!! I want Seymour, Hampton and or Branch. Surely we could get one or two of those guys for a cheap one year contract.

mussop
03-23-2013, 02:43 PM
What's funny is that he could have traded up for RG3 and then build around him this year going forward. I really thought he was crazy for not challenging Washington for that opportunity. RG3 would have been the playmaker that team needs.

Instead, they've got Tony Romo who is the biggest question mark at QB I've ever seen. Playing lights out one game, fumbling and stumbling the next game.

:thinking:



What's funny is that we could have traded up for RG3 and then build around him this year going forward. I really thought he was crazy for not challenging Washington for that opportunity. RG3 would have been the playmaker this team needs.

Instead, we've got Matt Schaub who is the biggest question mark at QB I've ever seen. Playing lights out one game, fumbling and stumbling the next game.

Fixed it for you!

Playoffs
03-23-2013, 03:56 PM
I would take Swope in a heartbeat.

Not me. He's off my board with a 'multiple concussion' history.

thunderkyss
03-23-2013, 04:00 PM
This is true, but I think the big difference is that despite being almost equal most considered it a good yr for Jones & a somewhat down yr for Lechler. That alone just shows you who has the higher upside. Lechler is the better option of the 2, IMO, & I'm glad he is finally in Houston. Can't say I've ever been happy about signing a punter...1st time for everything.

I think the biggest difference is the situational aspects of the punts. I don't know that the stats accurately reflects that. Lechler could punt from the 48 yard line & have it drop on the 2 a second before his guy could get there to make a play. Jones was just as likely to drop it on the 2 three seconds before our guy got there & it rolled into the endzone.

ChampionTexan
03-23-2013, 04:50 PM
I think the biggest difference is the situational aspects of the punts. I don't know that the stats accurately reflects that. Lechler could punt from the 48 yard line & have it drop on the 2 a second before his guy could get there to make a play. Jones was just as likely to drop it on the 2 three seconds before our guy got there & it rolled into the endzone.

You mean a 46 yard net punt compared to a 28 yard net punt wouldn't accurately reflect the differences between those two kicks?

There's also a stat for kicks inside the 20 and touchbacks - which would further differentiate the two kicks you describe.

CloakNNNdagger
03-23-2013, 08:42 PM
One point I don't remember anyone bringing up when comparing stats for Jones against Lechler is one "small" factor.........the Oakland open-air stadium. For any of you who have never been there for a football game, the stadium is near the water..........the wind is cold, strong and brutal most of football season........and the wind is usually directed in cross-direction and/or swirling........a punter's nightmare. During the winter, forget feeling your feet, hands or face. Since Lechler has played all of his home games every year outdoors, it is safe to say that he has overall played the majority of his games in his 13 year career gathering his extraordinary stats in unprotected environments.

Corrosion
03-23-2013, 09:07 PM
I would take Swope in a heartbeat. .....

Me too .... I think he's going to be a value pick. First round measurables and will likely end up going in the second.

TexanSam
03-23-2013, 11:37 PM
One point I don't remember anyone bringing up when comparing stats for Jones against Lechler is one "small" factor.........the Oakland open-air stadium. For any of you who have never been there for a football game, the stadium is near the water..........the wind is cold, strong and brutal most of football season........and the wind is usually directed in cross-direction and/or swirling........a punter's nightmare. During the winter, forget feeling your feet, hands or face. Since Lechler has played all of his home games every year outdoors, it is safe to say that he has overall played the majority of his games in his 13 year career gathering his extraordinary stats in unprotected environments.

That's a good point. To be able to rack up his type of stats in an environment that is unforgiving to punters and kickers is even more impressive. I just looked at his stats, and his net average away from Oakland has been better every season except for 2007 and 2003.

mexican_texan
03-23-2013, 11:50 PM
That's a good point. To be able to rack up his type of stats in an environment that is unforgiving to punters and kickers is even more impressive. I just looked at his stats, and his net average away from Oakland has been better every season except for 2007 and 2003.
Hi Sam! how have you been?

76Texan
03-24-2013, 12:30 AM
One point I don't remember anyone bringing up when comparing stats for Jones against Lechler is one "small" factor.........the Oakland open-air stadium. For any of you who have never been there for a football game, the stadium is near the water..........the wind is cold, strong and brutal most of football season........and the wind is usually directed in cross-direction and/or swirling........a punter's nightmare. During the winter, forget feeling your feet, hands or face. Since Lechler has played all of his home games every year outdoors, it is safe to say that he has overall played the majority of his games in his 13 year career gathering his extraordinary stats in unprotected environments.

Good point, Doc.

Also, I just went back and watched each punt by Lechler and Jones in the first 4 weeks of the season.

A few things that I noticed are:

The Raiders had bad bad blockings on punt.
They also missed their LS in at least one of those games.
Jones had one punt where pressure came close while Lechler had at least five.
Obviously, on these occasions, the punter had to get rid of the ball quicker; therefore, his punt is affected.

Along the same line, the ball leaves Lechler's foot sooner as compared with Jones.
Consistently just after one second after the ball was snapped, it left Lechler's foot where as Jones took longer; and he was still "pressured" more than Jones.
That goes to show how poor the blocking up front is.

Lechler definitely has the stronger leg as evident against the Broncos in Mile High (he boomed 62 and 68 yd punt with no pressure on; quite better than Jones whose Texans played there just a week earlier and didn't do as well as far as distance goes.)

BullNation4Life
03-24-2013, 09:40 AM
Dont see how you get Gary making this decision. This is Rick Smith's roster to build. He's the GM ..... He makes the personel decisions tho Kubiak and the other coaches have some input , the final decision belongs to the GM.

and yet it was Gary who basically hired Rick Smith, or had a very huge hand in that decision....

Quite sure that if Gary says, "get this guy" Rick says "okey dokey!"...

76Texan
03-24-2013, 12:45 PM
I have now watched all of Lechler's punts from last year, and I will say that he's still got it.

The guy is a beast!
Very consistent.

There's just one "negative" thing, and I'm not sure if it's truly is negative.

Some of the punts from his own end zone or inside the 10, are among the shortest (36, 40, 40 something.)
Perhaps he was concerned about the rush and wanted to get the ball out of there.
So even when the rush wasn't coming, he might have hurried the punts a little.

It's hard to blame him though, because the Raiders were pretty poor in blocking for him as opposed to what the Texans did for Jones.

handswarmer
03-24-2013, 01:52 PM
I was really hoping he would join a team in the NFC so our Punter, Sam Koch could get some Pro Bowl recognition....

GP
03-24-2013, 09:35 PM
and yet it was Gary who basically hired Rick Smith, or had a very huge hand in that decision....

Quite sure that if Gary says, "get this guy" Rick says "okey dokey!"...

Wrong.

In an interview a couple of years ago, during training camp, a reporter asked Kubiak something about how the contract talks are going with a RB we were supposedly trying out to see if he'd be signed to the team.....

....Kubiak said something to the effect of "I wouldn't know. Rick and his guys go out and find the guys and then they tell me who's signed with us."

It was a terse reply, really didn't sound like Gary is in his office making calls to players and spending his time updating the chalk board list of these guys we're signing.

Furthermore, last off-season there were very candid interviews with Rick Smith and Bob McNair that shed new light into how much Rick and his staff of scouts play a role in the signing of players. Rick and the scouts have a huge say in who gets signed here.

Kubiak has more sway over coaching staff choices than he does players.

Titans Sux 72
03-24-2013, 09:45 PM
I was really hoping he would join a team in the NFC so our Punter, Sam Koch could get some Pro Bowl recognition....

Don't worry your boy Koch will have plenty of opportunities to punt his foot off. With out Boldens clutch receptions and Jacoby filling his spot your Offense is definitely not as good as last year. And if you think Jacoby is gonna fill that void your kidding yourself. Lol

Wolf
03-24-2013, 09:45 PM
I have now watched all of Lechler's punts from last year, and I will say that he's still got it.

The guy is a beast!
Very consistent.

There's just one "negative" thing, and I'm not sure if it's truly is negative.

Some of the punts from his own end zone or inside the 10, are among the shortest (36, 40, 40 something.)
Perhaps he was concerned about the rush and wanted to get the ball out of there.
So even when the rush wasn't coming, he might have hurried the punts a little.

It's hard to blame him though, because the Raiders were pretty poor in blocking for him as opposed to what the Texans did for Jones.

Does He have pretty good hangtime?

I honestly haven't paid attention between him and jones over the years

Just been paying attention to Texan players

76Texan
03-25-2013, 12:44 AM
Does He have pretty good hangtime?

I honestly haven't paid attention between him and jones over the years

Just been paying attention to Texan players

In post #28 of this thread, Playoffs posted some stats.

And I noted the maximum hang time of 5.50, which is exceptional for a punter.

I wanted to check it out myself, but it's just too cumbersome to go through all the punts again.
Besides, punting is a combination of things.
There are occasions when you want hangtime; there are occasions when you want to outkick the return man (if you see him coming up much closer than your deepest range), etc.
Sometimes you trade hang time for distance, and vice-versa.

One way to answer that question is to quote the following:

... Funny thing, after Shane Lechler boomed that 80-yard punt 10 days ago against Chicago to set a franchise record.
The Raiders' punter said he hit the ball "perfect" ...
and that it was "probably one of his top 10 punts."
Wait. He hit others more perfectly?
In fact, yes.

http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/More-boom-times-for-Raiders-Shane-Lechler-2353796.php#ixzz2OWQltfJS

He is routinely compared to former Raiders punter Ray Guy,
a seven-time Pro Bowler and hang-time king who played from 1973 to 1986
and was named to the NFL's 75th-anniversary team in 1994.
Except that ...

"There is no comparison," former Raiders head coach and current broadcaster Tom Flores said.

Flores clearly believes Lechler is better...

...

Here's a video of his longest NFL punt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkp82TgP46U

The hang time was roughly 5 secs (from the moment the ball left his foot until it hit the ground.)
Here, he outkicked the return man, sacrificing a little hang time in the process.

michaelm
03-25-2013, 10:14 AM
Here's a video of his longest NFL punt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkp82TgP46U

The hang time was roughly 5 secs (from the moment the ball left his foot until it hit the ground.)
Here, he outkicked the return man, sacrificing a little hang time in the process.

Priceless comment below the video:
I think the real surprise here is that the Raiders have a lead in the 4th quarter.

76Texan
03-25-2013, 10:29 AM
Priceless comment below the video:

LOL; I didn't catch that.

ASidd_1990
03-25-2013, 01:03 PM
Speaking of Punters, Eagles just signed Donnie Jones.

Barwin, Casey, Ryans and now DJones are Eagles. LOL what's next?

TEXANS84
03-25-2013, 02:15 PM
Speaking of Punters, Eagles just signed Donnie Jones.

Barwin, Casey, Ryans and now DJones are Eagles. LOL what's next?

Kevin Walter at this rate.

Titans Sux 72
03-25-2013, 02:24 PM
Whats wrong with Donnie Jones? I thought he did a great job last year.

Hitman Hartman? What happened to that dude? He had a damn cannon, loved his kickoffs.

Jones had his brain fart moments last year. Just when our Offense was in the middle of their funk and field position was at a premium he would shank one off the side of his foot. Overall stats were very good just needed to improve his situational punting.

76Texan
03-25-2013, 02:42 PM
Jones had his brain fart moments last year. Just when our Offense was in the middle of their funk and field position was at a premium he would shank one off the side of his foot. Overall stats were very good just needed to improve his situational punting.

Exactly.

Stats don't show you everything.

For example, Lechler had a punt blocked (right off the bat) so he had a punt for 2 yards. That dragged down his number.

Or he had the ball inside the 5, the coverage team was there, but somehow missed the ball that rolled into the endzone for a touch back.

And like I said, Jones saw minimum pressure and therefore had more time to do the job.

The snap is also important. If it's too high, or if it rolls on the ground.

Can you believe that?
I actually saw a couple of snaps by the Raiders that rolled on the ground.

michaelm
03-25-2013, 02:45 PM
Exactly.

Stats don't show you everything.

For example, Lechler had a punt blocked (right off the bat) so he had a punt for 2 yards. That dragged down his number.

Or he had the ball inside the 5, the coverage team was there, but somehow missed the ball that rolled into the endzone for a touch back.

And like I said, Jones saw minimum pressure and therefore had more time to do the job.

The snap is also important. If it's too high, or if it rolls on the ground.

Can you believe that?
I actually saw a couple of snaps by the Raiders that rolled on the ground.

Wasn't it the Raiders who had two snaps that rolled on the ground in the same game when their snapper got injured?

76Texan
03-25-2013, 02:47 PM
Wasn't it the Raiders who had two snaps that rolled on the ground in the same game when their snapper got injured?

Yup!

I expected Shane to be a little careful on one of them though; you know, covering it up instead of trying to pick it up.

CloakNNNdagger
04-06-2013, 01:44 PM
Some very interesting facts and stats related to the Lechler move. 2013 STs performance will also hinge on Bullocks groin and Marciano's brain coming back to life.

How Much Will Shane Lechler Really Impact The Texans' Special Teams? (http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/4/1/4159600/how-much-will-shane-lechler-really-impact-the-texans-special-teams)

Dutchrudder
04-06-2013, 08:49 PM
Some very interesting facts and stats related to the Lechler move. 2013 STs performance will also hinge on Bullocks groin and Marciano's brain coming back to life.

How Much Will Shane Lechler Really Impact The Texans' Special Teams? (http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/4/1/4159600/how-much-will-shane-lechler-really-impact-the-texans-special-teams)

Hmmm, no mention of Oaklands terrible long snapper. I think the author didn't bother watching any of the Raiders games this year. It was more than just poor return coverage that contributed to the lower punting stats.

The Pencil Neck
04-07-2013, 12:42 AM
Hmmm, no mention of Oaklands terrible long snapper. I think the author didn't bother watching any of the Raiders games this year. It was more than just poor return coverage that contributed to the lower punting stats.

It's like someone else said...

Last year, Donnie Jones had a GOOD year for Donnie Jones. Last year, Shane Lechler had a bad year for Shane Lechler.

Their stats last year were almost identical. BUT. The odds are that this next season, Donnie Jones doesn't kick that well and there's a good chance that Shane Lechler kicks better.

Dutchrudder
04-07-2013, 03:39 AM
It's like someone else said...

Last year, Donnie Jones had a GOOD year for Donnie Jones. Last year, Shane Lechler had a bad year for Shane Lechler.

Their stats last year were almost identical. BUT. The odds are that this next season, Donnie Jones doesn't kick that well and there's a good chance that Shane Lechler kicks better.

That's a good way to look at it, Lechlers floor is Jones' ceiling.

Uncle Rico
04-07-2013, 02:08 PM
Some very interesting facts and stats related to the Lechler move. 2013 STs performance will also hinge on Bullocks groin and Marciano's brain coming back to life.

How Much Will Shane Lechler Really Impact The Texans' Special Teams? (http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/4/1/4159600/how-much-will-shane-lechler-really-impact-the-texans-special-teams)


I came away that the writer doesnt think much of our place kicker either. I wonder if there is any way to upgrade that position as well. Really bothersome that Graham cant kick a ball off the tee into the end zone more routinely.

ChampionTexan
04-07-2013, 02:24 PM
I came away that the writer doesnt think much of our place kicker either. I wonder if there is any way to upgrade that position as well. Really bothersome that Graham cant kick a ball off the tee into the end zone more routinely.

Randy Bullock will be the place kicker in 2013. Graham isn't even on the current roster.

CloakNNNdagger
04-07-2013, 04:18 PM
I came away that the writer doesnt think much of our place kicker either. I wonder if there is any way to upgrade that position as well. Really bothersome that Graham cant kick a ball off the tee into the end zone more routinely.

I'll have to see more of Bullock before I'm convinced he is significantly better than his predecessor. In college, he had a ~33% touchback rate on kickoffs in 2011 (~11 to 16% in previous years).

2011 Texas A&M Aggies
Randy Bullock #28
Kickoff Split Stats
through 01/09/2012 (http://www.cfbstats.com/2011/player/697/1018534/kickoff/split.html)

He seems to be a dead accurate FG kicker inside the 50. But did not have a FG longer than 52 yds in college (1 yd better than Graham's best last year and 1 yd less than Graham's longest field goals in past years), a mark he matched in a Texans preseason game prior to his injury. Of course, then there is always the question how he will kick under NFL pressure situations. We will soon find out.

Dutchrudder
04-07-2013, 05:22 PM
I'll have to see more of Bullock before I'm convinced he is significantly better than his predecessor. In college, he had a ~33% touchback rate on kickoffs in 2011 (~11 to 16% in previous years).

2011 Texas A&M Aggies
Randy Bullock #28
Kickoff Split Stats
through 01/09/2012 (http://www.cfbstats.com/2011/player/697/1018534/kickoff/split.html)

He seems to be a dead accurate FG kicker inside the 50. But did not have a FG longer than 52 yds in college (1 yd better than Graham's best last year and 1 yd less than Graham's longest field goals in past years), a mark he matched in a Texans preseason game prior to his injury. Of course, then there is always the question how he will kick under NFL pressure situations. We will soon find out.

Two things to consider about Bullock. One he was kicking in open air stadiums in college, whereas Reliant should be much easier indoors.

Two the NCAA knockoffs are 5 yards longer than the NFL, so he should have more success on touchbacks than in college.

Playoffs
09-07-2013, 04:46 PM
Lechler named team captain: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2203736#post2203736

Earned some r-e-s-p-e-c-t.

fiasco west
09-10-2013, 07:35 AM
looking back over the game...I thought there may have been one unsung hero that I've not really heard mentioned much tonight. I'm sure this will happen many weeks as well as this guy just makes great field position seem almost routine...

But I'm pretty sure all of his punts were within the 20. They were usually all high floaters too so allowing our guys to get down there and make the tackle.

The Texans have been through so many bad punters, it's great to have him on our team.

Obviously this guy is going to be huge for us this year, and since he's a Texas guy and a punter, hopefully he'll stick around for a while.

76Texan
09-10-2013, 10:22 AM
Keep it up, Mr Lechler. :aggressive:

phantom17
09-10-2013, 10:57 AM
looking back over the game...I thought there may have been one unsung hero that I've not really heard mentioned much tonight. I'm sure this will happen many weeks as well as this guy just makes great field position seem almost routine...

But I'm pretty sure all of his punts were within the 20. They were usually all high floaters too so allowing our guys to get down there and make the tackle.

The Texans have been through so many bad punters, it's great to have him on our team.

Obviously this guy is going to be huge for us this year, and since he's a Texas guy and a punter, hopefully he'll stick around for a while.



Yup! Also, Bullock kicking the ball into or out the end zone!

Playoffs
09-15-2013, 06:32 PM
The man earned his keep today. Fantastic weapon.

potisyourfriend
09-15-2013, 06:49 PM
I believe he had 5 kicks inside the 20 today. And 3 or 4 they (Titans) ended up punting from their own end zone. It's nice to have a punter.

hradhak
09-15-2013, 06:53 PM
I believe he had 5 kicks inside the 20 today. And 3 or 4 they (Titans) ended up punting from their own end zone. It's nice to have a punter.

He is probably the only good thing about our special teams this year. He really helped with the field position. One of his touchbacks died like 1 foot inside the EZ. Otherwise he nailed everything and none of his kicks were returned for much.

rolyat93
09-15-2013, 07:17 PM
Greatest punter of all time in his (punting) prime. Hope he sticks with us for 8 more years.

CretorFrigg
09-15-2013, 07:30 PM
Greatest punter of all time in his (punting) prime. Hope he sticks with us for 8 more years.

I absolutely loved the signing. Shane gives our defense great field position every time, but in 8 years, dude is going to be coming out in a walker.

busterspencer
09-15-2013, 07:53 PM
Hopefully Bullock is easier on the eyes.

Bullock must have blurred vision after the AGGIEs loosing to Alabama. He sure missed alot of field goals today against the Titans. I sure hope he snaps out of it, he is a great kicker..

TheMatrix31
09-15-2013, 07:57 PM
Special teams and field position is SO damn important. The bedrock of any successful team.

Lechler is awesome. Hopefully he continues being so. And hopefully Bullock or whoever the hell becomes our kicker kicks reliably. And hopefully our kick/punt return game comes around.

rolyat93
09-15-2013, 09:01 PM
I absolutely loved the signing. Shane gives our defense great field position every time, but in 8 years, dude is going to be coming out in a walker.

Whoops, thought he was 34 not 37. Still, a punter never even gets hit he's pretty much already out of shape lol. He could kick for at least 5 more if he wants to.

Playoffs
09-16-2013, 12:14 AM
Iíve never gotten excited, gotten up off the bench to watch a punter before, but I love watching him punt. Thereís a reason the guyís the best in the game.

Itís so precise and he knows what heís doing. Itís like poetry. Itís beautiful. Heís pinning it down there and we donít even have to have people touch it. It just stops at the one-yard line. Thatís insane.

Itís such asset to our team. Itís huge starting inside the 10-yard line a couple of times today. He can boot it long when he needs to boot it long. Heís just so precise. Itís really honestly fun to watch. Itís great to have on this squad.-- JJ Watt (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/09/houston-texans-titans-snapsho/)

Corrosion
09-16-2013, 03:14 AM
Lechler .... Player of the game Vs the Tinbreds.

Vinny
09-16-2013, 07:54 AM
I knew Lechler was good, but watching him game to game, every game...dude is amazing. Too bad we seem to have Al Del Howfield in the other kicking shoes.

Wolf
11-14-2013, 06:07 PM
Per sports mobile app. He is hospitalized with the flu

Big Lou
11-14-2013, 07:15 PM
Hell if I signed with the Texans this year I would prentend to have something more severe than the Flu so I could get out of the entire season.

Lechlers probably wishing he had stayed in Oakland at this point.

badboy
11-14-2013, 11:07 PM
He is suppose to discharge per Kubiak on local news. Said he got text from Shane that we will be ready for game.

CloakNNNdagger
11-15-2013, 02:12 PM
If for some reason, Lechler can't go on Sunday, Kubiak does have a contingency plan. Kicker Randy Bullock would handle punting duties and quarterback Matt Schaub would fill-in for Lechler as Bullock's holder on field goals and extra points. link (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24233740/texans-p-shane-lechler-hospitalized-with-the-flu)

Lord help us..........

Rey
11-15-2013, 02:15 PM
Randy bullock was really going to punt for us?

Did Shapiro sign with anyone?

Thorn
11-15-2013, 02:51 PM
Before reading this I was beginning to be mildly optimistic about the game.

BeerTastesLikeVictory
11-15-2013, 02:53 PM
Before reading this I was beginning to be mildly optimistic about the game.

4th and 12 on our own 40...Go for it!