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steelbtexan
04-02-2013, 03:22 PM
I vote Reddick, but I can change it to O-line.

Yes, who do you want?

76Texan
04-02-2013, 03:23 PM
It's time to start talking about who Buffalo should be picking. Bong must have had an extended case of the munchies.

Nassib is my pick.

Competition for Barkley shouldn't be a bad thing. Nassib already knows the offense, kind like Tannehill did for the Dolphins last yr.

Don't they already have Kolb?

76Texan
04-02-2013, 03:26 PM
Anyone know what the Bills needs are? There's a couple QB's that are a good value down here and they might double up for insurance and value purposes like the Redskins did last year. Maybe some O-line help, Oday Aboushi, Alvin Bailey, Ricky Wagner etc... Secondary help? Suggestions?

Aboushi got my vote.

steelbtexan
04-02-2013, 03:40 PM
Don't they already have Kolb?

Kolb is a stop gap. There's nothing wrong with having 3 capable QB's on the roster, after not having one for 20+ yrs.

This is how teams like the Packers/49ers/Eagles have made a killing in draft day trades for yrs.

Dutchrudder
04-02-2013, 03:43 PM
Aboushi got my vote.

He makes sense here. They already got Barkley, so no point in drafting a QB.

steelbtexan
04-02-2013, 03:47 PM
He makes sense here. They already got Barkley, so no point in drafting a QB.

I will change to Aboushi if it speeds up the process.

Seņor Stan
04-02-2013, 04:02 PM
Aboushi

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 04:03 PM
Not really a complaint but I would of taken Kiko. His coverage and blitzing abilities fit this defense perfectly. I like Washington but there seems to be several guys with his attributes that should still be available in the next couple of rounds. Micheal Buchanan for one. If not for a broken jaw this year he could of possibly been a first or second day pick.

Still would not be unhappy at all with this haul.

P.S. I also would have considered one of the top QB's at this spot.

I kinda saw it as there arent very many guy's with the combination of size and speed left in this draft , lots of smaller guy's with potential tho .... and some have Washington as high as the tail end of the second round. I thought this one was a value pick that filled the void left by Barwin. They only have 3 OLB's on the roster - Braman , Mercilus & Reed.

The combination of Reed , Mercilus & Washington may well be better than Reed , Barwin & Mercilus.

There are several ILB and Safety prospects still on the board .... and should be thru round 5.


QB's .... Ive thought about them at every pick , even in the first round. We all knowwe have to find Schaub's replacement .... I just dont see NFL talent in this crop of QB's. Dont like any of them ....

I said I would cry in the fetal position if this is the outcome of are draft class


Why ?!?

We've been crying for an upgrade at the NT spot since Seth Payne got hurt. We get that upgrade in this draft.

We've been begging for a playmaker opposite #80 for a few years too - We get a guy who is arguably the most talented in this draft at the end of the second round. Along with another WR at the end of the third who's measurables are just as good and may have the best hands in the draft.
Schaub needed weapons , he gets them in spades.

Washington was miscast at Georgia because of the talent around him .... he even played the nose in some packages. Versatility , great size for the position and loads of talent .... Fills a need with Barwin moving on. May go in the mid second round , we get him here at the end of the 4th.


Yep - I need an ILB but with the way this has gone , we still have the option of moving Reed inside if we cant fill the spot and they will sign at least one , probably two ILB's after the draft.


Nope , I didnt pick your guy's .... but I had a plan entering the draft and have stuck to it. I like the results so far.

Dutchrudder
04-02-2013, 04:06 PM
I said I would cry in the fetal position if this is the outcome of are draft class

...

Why ?!?

We've been crying for an upgrade at the NT spot since Seth Payne got hurt. We get that upgrade in this draft.

We've been begging for a playmaker opposite #80 for a few years too - We get a guy who is arguably the most talented in this draft at the end of the second round. Along with another WR at the end of the third who's measurables are just as good and may have the best hands in the draft.
Schaub needed weapons , he gets them in spades.

Washington was miscast at Georgia because of the talent around him .... he even played the nose in some packages. Versatility , great size for the position and loads of talent .... Fills a need with Barwin moving on. May go in the mid second round , we get him here at the end of the 4th.


Yep - I need an ILB but with the way this has gone , we still have the option of moving Reed inside if we cant fill the spot and they will sign at least one , probably two ILB's after the draft.


Nope , I didnt pick your guy's .... but I had a plan entering the draft and have stuck to it. I like the results so far.

Funny, when I read RNR's post the first time, I thought he would be so happy with your draft that he cried. Now I'm not sure which way to take it...

76Texan
04-02-2013, 04:10 PM
I will change to Aboushi if it speeds up the process.

Let's go with him; we've got plenty of votes already.

Can you or Dutch update please! I'm on my IPhone and it takes a bit long to do it.

Wolf6151
04-02-2013, 04:15 PM
Let's go with him; we've got plenty of votes already.

Can you or Dutch update please! I'm on my IPhone and it takes a bit long to do it.

Buffalo Bills take Oday Aboushi-OT in the 4th round.


New York Jets and Dsr23 are on the clock.

Seņor Stan
04-02-2013, 04:20 PM
Drs23 and the Jets

76Texan
04-02-2013, 04:21 PM
Dang, I have to wait for 67 picks before I can make one for the Lions. 65 --> 132 is a long time, LOL!

76Texan
04-02-2013, 04:22 PM
Drs23 and the Jets

I've notified him via both PM and email.

Honoring Earl 34
04-02-2013, 04:23 PM
I kinda saw it as there arent very many guy's with the combination of size and speed left in this draft , lots of smaller guy's with potential tho .... and some have Washington as high as the tail end of the second round. I thought this one was a value pick that filled the void left by Barwin. They only have 3 OLB's on the roster - Braman , Mercilus & Reed.

The combination of Reed , Mercilus & Washington may well be better than Reed , Barwin & Mercilus.

There are several ILB and Safety prospects still on the board .... and should be thru round 5.


QB's .... Ive thought about them at every pick , even in the first round. We all knowwe have to find Schaub's replacement .... I just dont see NFL talent in this crop of QB's. Dont like any of them ....




Why ?!?

We've been crying for an upgrade at the NT spot since Seth Payne got hurt. We get that upgrade in this draft.

We've been begging for a playmaker opposite #80 for a few years too - We get a guy who is arguably the most talented in this draft at the end of the second round. Along with another WR at the end of the third who's measurables are just as good and may have the best hands in the draft.
Schaub needed weapons , he gets them in spades.

Washington was miscast at Georgia because of the talent around him .... he even played the nose in some packages. Versatility , great size for the position and loads of talent .... Fills a need with Barwin moving on. May go in the mid second round , we get him here at the end of the 4th.


Yep - I need an ILB but with the way this has gone , we still have the option of moving Reed inside if we cant fill the spot and they will sign at least one , probably two ILB's after the draft.


Nope , I didnt pick your guy's .... but I had a plan entering the draft and have stuck to it. I like the results so far.

Washington is worth a chance because of his size , strength , and speed . The Steelers used to take OLBs in every draft because those are key positions and expensive to resign .

I wanted a bigger guy at the nose but that's just me .

We do need WRs bad and the elephant in the room is , when will AJ start declining and who will take his place .

I don't like the QBs that much either . I would take a flyer if one fell to the 5th .

drs23
04-02-2013, 04:36 PM
The NY Jets select Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford

Senior Stan is on the clock.

Wolf6151
04-02-2013, 04:39 PM
2013 Kansas City Chiefs Draft Picks so far:

1. Luke Joeckel-OT, a no brainer pick.
2. No pick, this hurt but they traded for Alex Smith that should help alot.
3. Quinton Patton-WR, this was a lesser need but a very good value that I couldn't pass up.
3. Kiko Alonso-ILB, this was the teams biggest need but ILB just isn't a high 1st type of pick and can be filled much later.
4. Maliciah Goodman-DE/OLB, high quality depth and good value.

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 04:48 PM
Washington is worth a chance because of his size , strength , and speed . The Steelers used to take OLBs in every draft because those are key positions and expensive to resign .

I wanted a bigger guy at the nose but that's just me .

We do need WRs bad and the elephant in the room is , when will AJ start declining and who will take his place .

I don't like the QBs that much either . I would take a flyer if one fell to the 5th .

I thought about the bigger guy's up front but thought that Short really fit what Wade has asked of the defensive linemen since he came here - He's not asking them to plug holes , he's asking them to get up the field. Short can do both.

Both of the WR's I took have similar size and measurables to #80 .... That elephant in the room had a lot to do with not only the position but the type of players at the position I went with.

I think AJ will give us at least two more years ... beyond that , its possible one of these kids grows into a #1 and who better to learn from than a future HOFer ?


I'd be following the Steelers blueprint of building talent and depth at the OLB spots .... they have been able to do it for ... ever , with little drop off over the years.


QB .... we've got a "decent one" and a capable backup. We werent going to upgrade the decent one if we had the first pick in the draft. I dont believe we would upgrade the backup beyond the first two selected.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:02 PM
I'm good with the Texans picks so far.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:03 PM
2013 Kansas City Chiefs Draft Picks so far:

1. Luke Joeckel-OT, a no brainer pick.
2. No pick, this hurt but they traded for Alex Smith that should help alot.
3. Quinton Patton-WR, this was a lesser need but a very good value that I couldn't pass up.
3. Kiko Alonso-ILB, this was the teams biggest need but ILB just isn't a high 1st type of pick and can be filled much later.
4. Maliciah Goodman-DE/OLB, high quality depth and good value.

Solid draft; Goodman has all the tools, if only he can take to the coaching.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:07 PM
The NY Jets select Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford

Lots of value with the RBs.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:08 PM
On the clock:

10 107 Tennessee - SenorStan -


11 108 Carolina - HonoringEarl -
12 109 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
13 110 San Diego - WolverineFan -
14 111 Miami - TexansSeminole -
15 112 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
16 113 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 114 Dallas - RockNRandy -
18 115 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
19 116 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
20 117 Chicago - Dutchrudder -

drs23
04-02-2013, 05:13 PM
Lots of value with the RBs.

I thought so with this pick. They've got to have a 'go to' guy after Shonn Greene departed to back up CJnok in Titland.

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 05:14 PM
2013 Kansas City Chiefs Draft Picks so far:

1. Luke Joeckel-OT, a no brainer pick.
2. No pick, this hurt but they traded for Alex Smith that should help alot.
3. Quinton Patton-WR, this was a lesser need but a very good value that I couldn't pass up.
3. Kiko Alonso-ILB, this was the teams biggest need but ILB just isn't a high 1st type of pick and can be filled much later.
4. Maliciah Goodman-DE/OLB, high quality depth and good value.

I like it a lot .... Hope I can find an OT in the next couple selections for the Texans. Thats the one hole I havent been able to work into my draft plan from the get go. Hell I almost took Armstead at 27 instead of Short .... but didnt think the DT's were deep enough for one I like to slip to me in the 3rd.

Seņor Stan
04-02-2013, 05:19 PM
Tennessee Titans select...

Montee Ball, RB ,Wisconsin

steelbtexan
04-02-2013, 05:29 PM
I kinda saw it as there arent very many guy's with the combination of size and speed left in this draft , lots of smaller guy's with potential tho .... and some have Washington as high as the tail end of the second round. I thought this one was a value pick that filled the void left by Barwin. They only have 3 OLB's on the roster - Braman , Mercilus & Reed.

The combination of Reed , Mercilus & Washington may well be better than Reed , Barwin & Mercilus.

There are several ILB and Safety prospects still on the board .... and should be thru round 5.


QB's .... Ive thought about them at every pick , even in the first round. We all knowwe have to find Schaub's replacement .... I just dont see NFL talent in this crop of QB's. Dont like any of them ....




Why ?!?

We've been crying for an upgrade at the NT spot since Seth Payne got hurt. We get that upgrade in this draft.

We've been begging for a playmaker opposite #80 for a few years too - We get a guy who is arguably the most talented in this draft at the end of the second round. Along with another WR at the end of the third who's measurables are just as good and may have the best hands in the draft.
Schaub needed weapons , he gets them in spades.

Washington was miscast at Georgia because of the talent around him .... he even played the nose in some packages. Versatility , great size for the position and loads of talent .... Fills a need with Barwin moving on. May go in the mid second round , we get him here at the end of the 4th.


Yep - I need an ILB but with the way this has gone , we still have the option of moving Reed inside if we cant fill the spot and they will sign at least one , probably two ILB's after the draft.


Nope , I didnt pick your guy's .... but I had a plan entering the draft and have stuck to it. I like the results so far.

When are you going to apply for an asst GM job, Or a scouting job? You've got the time. LOL

Do you see BoB letting Gary/Wade draft Rodgers and Washington.

Honoring Earl 34
04-02-2013, 05:35 PM
The Carolina Panthers select B.W. Webb CB William&Mary .

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/2013/draft/300-bw-webb.jpg

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
With the 109th pick, the Saints select Baccari Rambo, S, Georgia.

htownfan32
04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
The New Orleans Saints select
Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
http://aug-cdn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/11719845.jpg

Shore up that secondary and maybe the pass rush will have time to get there for the Saints D.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
Wolverine emailed.

htownfan32
04-02-2013, 05:39 PM
Haha sorry 76, should have let you know I made it back in time, thanks to volunteering event being rained out. Thanks anyway! :)

76Texan
04-02-2013, 05:41 PM
Haha sorry 76, should have let you know I made it back in time, thanks to volunteering event being rained out. Thanks anyway! :)

No sweat!

Rambo's name alone is worth the pick. LOL.

mussop
04-02-2013, 05:57 PM
man my list got destroyed with the last 5 picks. :overreact:

Dutchrudder
04-02-2013, 06:01 PM
Recap of round 4 so far:

1 98 Jacksonville - Blake - D.J. Hayden CB Houston
2 99 Kansas City - Wolf6151 - Maliciah Goodman DE Clemson
3 100 Oakland - srrono - Christine Micheal RB Texas A&M
4 101 Philadelphia - TexansSeminole - William Gholston DE Michigan State
5 102 Minnesota - NCTexan - Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
6 103 Arizona - SteelBTexan - Brian Schwenke C California
7 104 Cleveland - Texan4Ever - Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State
8 105 Buffalo - Bong - Oday Aboushi OT Virginia
9 106 New York Jets - dsr23 - Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford
10 107 Tennessee - SenorStan - Montee Ball RB Wisconsin
11 108 Carolina - HonoringEarl - B.W. Webb CB William & Mary
12 109 New Orleans - htownfan32 - Baccari Rambo S Georgia
13 110 San Diego - WolverineFan -
14 111 Miami - TexansSeminole -
15 112 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
16 113 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 114 Dallas - RockNRandy -
18 115 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
19 116 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
20 117 Chicago - Dutchrudder -

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 06:38 PM
When are you going to apply for an asst GM job, Or a scouting job? You've got the time. LOL

Do you see BoB letting Gary/Wade draft Rodgers and Washington.

Rogers .... Man the talent is obvious. He was first team all SEC as a sophomore I think a lot depends on how he handles the interview process. Can he convince the Texans staff that his issues are behind him. Here's a video where he talks about that stuff with reporters. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-a2dFKpSbI) Doesnt come off as rehearsed.

Just watch some of the highlights some of which come against LSU and Bama (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHOXRyDLuw)... Its almost like watching #80. (music in this one NSFW)


Im not aware of Washington having off field issues .... :kitten:

Rock N Randy
04-02-2013, 06:57 PM
@ corrosion
Your drafting is ok. As long as your happy with it that's all that matters.
Some of the sternest drafters are the best.
Just not my preferred choice.
Let me say there is nothing wrong and extreme logic in your 13' draft class so far.
Everyone you got IMO is just ok. No true talent to elevate the defense or offense.
The guys taken will fill holes and perform but not at a elevated level where I could say ya.... That guy is better than average.
A bunch of average guys in my opinion. Which is hard too say to be honest.
I'm not a fan of Rogers, Dobson or Washington
Short I like but gee 1st RD. I would honestly rather Jesse Williams

Jesse Williams SEC beast. Played football I believe 3 years and since he walked into Tuscaloosa he was the the best DLman they had. A former rugby player who is freaky stout and freaky strong.
Williams is a NFL player who can be above average and be a pro bowler just off talent
Short not so much.
Rogers I like potential wise but its a lot more than just potential ... Is Rogers and Dobson were the WRs we selected 1-3 RDs I would be disappointed
I would have prolly went into another direction.

That's what makes the draft so exciting.
We could look back and see who was no point and who was way off.
Look back and laugh
Post a couple of pics of crow
Make a couple of jokes
Couple of who's your daddy
And then before we know it. . . 2014 draft talk

steelbtexan
04-02-2013, 06:59 PM
Rogers .... Man the talent is obvious. He was first team all SEC as a sophomore I think a lot depends on how he handles the interview process. Can he convince the Texans staff that his issues are behind him. Here's a video where he talks about that stuff with reporters. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-a2dFKpSbI) Doesnt come off as rehearsed.

Just watch some of the highlights some of which come against LSU and Bama (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHOXRyDLuw)... Its almost like watching #80. (music in this one NSFW)


Im not aware of Washington having off field issues .... :kitten:

I'm with you on Rodgers. I would love to know how he interviewed.

Washington got a DUI .12 and speeding 92 in a 55 in Oct 2011.

WolverineFan
04-02-2013, 07:14 PM
The San Diego Chargers select...

Terry Hawthorne - CB, Illinois

http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/i/20110924-illini-football-western-michigan/fbWmich2011-1561.jpg

San Diego really needs help at CB after losing Antoine Cason and Quentin Jammer this offseason. Hawthorne offers great size at the position at 6'0, 195 lbs. He also ran a 4.4 at the combine and performed well at the East-West Shrine Game. He is one of the more underrated DB's coming into this draft and has been one of the better players on the Illinois defense for the past few years.

Wolf6151
04-02-2013, 07:18 PM
The San Diego Chargers select...

Terry Hawthorne - CB, Illinois

San Diego really needs help at CB after losing Antoine Cason and Quentin Jammer this offseason. Hawthorne offers great size at the position at 6'0, 195 lbs. He also ran a 4.4 at the combine and performed well at the East-West Shrine Game. He is one of the more underrated DB's coming into this draft and has been one of the better players on the Illinois defense for the past few years.


Very good pick, I think he's underrated by the so called experts. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the early 3rd on draft day.

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 07:31 PM
When are you going to apply for an asst GM job, Or a scouting job? You've got the time. LOL

Do you see BoB letting Gary/Wade draft Rodgers and Washington.

No way bro .... that would cut into my fishing expeditions and that aint happening. Ive got a 3 day 2 night trip planned for June along the Colorado river outside Bastrop and a 5 day four night trip along the Devils River planned for July. Just me , the kayak , my fishing pole and the river (and my boys).


@ corrosion
Your drafting is ok. As long as your happy with it that's all that matters.
Some of the sternest drafters are the best.
Just not my preferred choice.
Let me say there is nothing wrong and extreme logic in your 13' draft class so far.
Everyone you got IMO is just ok. No true talent to elevate the defense or offense.
The guys taken will fill holes and perform but not at a elevated level where I could say ya.... That guy is better than average.
A bunch of average guys in my opinion. Which is hard too say to be honest.
I'm not a fan of Rogers, Dobson or Washington
Short I like but gee 1st RD. I would honestly rather Jesse Williams

Jesse Williams SEC beast. Played football I believe 3 years and since he walked into Tuscaloosa he was the the best DLman they had. A former rugby player who is freaky stout and freaky strong.
Williams is a NFL player who can be above average and be a pro bowler just off talent
Short not so much.
Rogers I like potential wise but its a lot more than just potential ... Is Rogers and Dobson were the WRs we selected 1-3 RDs I would be disappointed
I would have prolly went into another direction.

That's what makes the draft so exciting.
We could look back and see who was no point and who was way off.
Look back and laugh
Post a couple of pics of crow
Make a couple of jokes
Couple of who's your daddy
And then before we know it. . . 2014 draft talk

Fair enough ... thing is , I believe every one of the players I chose so far can "take over a game". In part , the upside is why I took many of them in the spots I did .... as for the overall exercise , I agree with ya.

Rock N Randy
04-02-2013, 07:55 PM
No way bro .... that would cut into my fishing expeditions and that aint happening. Ive got a 3 day 2 night trip planned for June along the Colorado river outside Bastrop and a 5 day four night trip along the Devils River planned for July. Just me , the kayak , my fishing pole and the river (and my boys).




Fair enough ... thing is , I believe every one of the players I chose so far can "take over a game". In part , the upside is why I took many of them in the spots I did .... as for the overall exercise , I agree with ya.

Dobson I don't know much so I won't speak much but I would rather a different guy

Short I do like just not at 27 maybe go WR there

Rogers I do like but I just don't see him being a Texan. A lot of risk in the pick but I do see the potential

Washington... I'd rather not. All hype

No one cared about this guy until he went through the combine process and measured out well.

Out on the tape... I don't see much.

I see more Jenkins, more Ogletree and Rambo.

Jones too but I don't like Jones either.

I would not draft Washington or Jones and I have watches a lot of Georgia bulldog football.

TexansSeminole
04-02-2013, 08:15 PM
Just realized that I was up for Miami. That's what I get for debating traffic laws in the NSZ. Give me one minute.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 08:16 PM
Up next:

14 111 Miami - TexansSeminole -


15 112 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
16 113 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 114 Dallas - RockNRandy -
18 115 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
19 116 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
20 117 Chicago - Dutchrudder -[/QUOTE]

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 08:38 PM
Dobson I don't know much so I won't speak much but I would rather a different guy


Dobson has the same size and measurables as Rogers and has fly paper for hands - 0 drops. He catches everything thrown his way. Small school guy .... but the potential is limitless.



Short I do like just not at 27 maybe go WR there

I felt like I was held hostage on that pick to be honest. I knew there was value deeper in the draft at other positions of need. Just look at my next two for confirmation.

Rogers I do like but I just don't see him being a Texan. A lot of risk in the pick but I do see the potential

I doubt the Texans take a gamble on him .... but I see him as the best WR prospect in this draft class. Getting the best WR in the ass end of the 2nd felt like a steal to me. Just watch the highlight video I posted earlier .... He looks like a man among boys against elite SEC teams such as LSU and Bama.

Washington... I'd rather not. All hype

No one cared about this guy until he went through the combine process and measured out well.

Out on the tape... I don't see much.

Washington played out of position at Georgia ... I was onto him long before the combine tho his performance there confirmed what I saw before which is an elite pass rusher from the OLB position. Yes he has warts especially in containing the run .... Barwin will definately be missed but this guy has the potential to replace and upgrade Barwin if they can coach him up in holding the edge Vs the run.

I see more Jenkins, more Ogletree and Rambo.


Ogletree was gone before my first selection and had he been there would likely have been my pick .... which changes the entire draft from that point on.

Jenkins was gone at 35 and would have been my plan B had I went with another position in round 1. He wouldnt have made it to me at #57.


Had we went with the option to trade picks , I probably would have gone a different route (though I believe I would have taken Rogers at 57 regardless).

TexansSeminole
04-02-2013, 08:59 PM
Dolphins take...

Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati

steelbtexan
04-02-2013, 09:11 PM
The San Diego Chargers select...

Terry Hawthorne - CB, Illinois

http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/i/20110924-illini-football-western-michigan/fbWmich2011-1561.jpg

San Diego really needs help at CB after losing Antoine Cason and Quentin Jammer this offseason. Hawthorne offers great size at the position at 6'0, 195 lbs. He also ran a 4.4 at the combine and performed well at the East-West Shrine Game. He is one of the more underrated DB's coming into this draft and has been one of the better players on the Illinois defense for the past few years.

You got the guy I wanted to draft for the Redskins.

Oh well back to the drawing board.

WolverineFan
04-02-2013, 09:44 PM
Dobson has the same size and measurables as Rogers and has fly paper for hands - 0 drops. He catches everything thrown his way. Small school guy .... but the potential is limitless.

One of my favorite WR's in the draft.

WolverineFan
04-02-2013, 09:46 PM
Dolphins take...

Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati

Debated on him or Jordan Reed with my last SF pick.

TexansSeminole
04-02-2013, 09:47 PM
Debated on him or Jordan Reed with my last SF pick.

I would have gone Reed but this works out for Miami because Kelce is more well-rounded, which is what they need.

WolverineFan
04-02-2013, 09:48 PM
You got the guy I wanted to draft for the Redskins.

Oh well back to the drawing board.

Call it payback for taking Amerson earlier...:cool:

76Texan
04-02-2013, 09:48 PM
Up next:


15 112 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -

16 113 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 114 Dallas - RockNRandy -
18 115 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
19 116 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
20 117 Chicago - Dutchrudder -[/QUOTE]

Ndevine7 has been notified.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 09:52 PM
Looks like Short has been trimming down.
His weight went down at the Senior Bowl (308) from his normal playing weight (320) it went down further at the combine (299) and then at his Pro Day (303).

The good thing with Short is that he looked better toward the end of the season, at the Senior Bowl week and at his Pro Day.

Ndevine7
04-02-2013, 10:34 PM
With their 4th round pick the Tampa Bay Bucs select Nick Kasa TE Colorado

Corrosion
04-02-2013, 10:40 PM
One of my favorite WR's in the draft.

Had Rogers not been there , I would have taken him ahead of Swope , Hunter , Wheaton , Patton , Woods & Williams (Baylor).

Dobson is the real deal. Size , speed , ability to seperate and probably the best hands in the entire draft.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 11:06 PM
With their 4th round pick the Tampa Bay Bucs select Nick Kasa TE Colorado

Interesting prospect.
We'll see if he can develop as a pass catcher.

76Texan
04-02-2013, 11:07 PM
Up next:

16 113 St. Louis - RT22 -

RT22 has been notified.

17 114 Dallas - RockNRandy -
18 115 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
19 116 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
20 117 Chicago - Dutchrudder

mussop
04-03-2013, 01:02 AM
Short I like but gee 1st RD. I would honestly rather Jesse Williams

Jesse Williams SEC beast. Played football I believe 3 years and since he walked into Tuscaloosa he was the the best DLman they had. A former rugby player who is freaky stout and freaky strong.
Williams is a NFL player who can be above average and be a pro bowler just off talent
Short not so much.

Jesse Williams is one deminsional,2-gap NT who can eat up double teams and stand his ground. He brings nothing as a pass rusher. Will be on the side lines on passing downs. He will be a solid NT but nothing spectacular.

Kawaan Short has powerful hands and uses them well and has a nice combination of quickness and strength. He is strong at the point of attack and is a stout run defender. Because of his quick get off on the LOS he is good at shooting gaps which makes him an excellent penetrator. He sheds OL and has a quick burst to make tackles.

Short has 10X the talent that Williams has and if he puts it all together could be a steal at 27.




That's what makes the draft so exciting.
We could look back and see who was no point and who was way off.
Look back and laugh
Post a couple of pics of crow
Make a couple of jokes
Couple of who's your daddy
And then before we know it. . . 2014 draft talk

Me thinks you are going to be seeing pics of crows for this post. Oh yen and a for sure a who's your daddy from me. :pop:

RT22
04-03-2013, 02:11 AM
With pick #113 the Rams select Zaviar Gooden OLB Missouri.

RT22
04-03-2013, 02:16 AM
With the pick #113 the Rams select Zaviar Gooden OLB Missouri.

Rock N Randy
04-03-2013, 03:25 AM
Jesse Williams is one deminsional,2-gap NT who can eat up double teams and stand his ground. He brings nothing as a pass rusher. Will be on the side lines on passing downs. He will be a solid NT but nothing spectacular.

Kawaan Short has powerful hands and uses them well and has a nice combination of quickness and strength. He is strong at the point of attack and is a stout run defender. Because of his quick get off on the LOS he is good at shooting gaps which makes him an excellent penetrator. He sheds OL and has a quick burst to make tackles.

Short has 10X the talent that Williams has and if he puts it all together could be a steal at 27.



Me thinks you are going to be seeing pics of crows for this post. Oh yen and a for sure a who's your daddy from me. :pop:

We shall see. A lot goes into scheme and coaching. So which team a player goes to could make all the difference but I would bet Jesse Williams is a better pro than Short.

Williams has pass rush ability. He would not be considered for a 34 DE if he didn't
than just a one gap NT. He is more diverse than that. Blasphemy!

He projects to a 34 NT but he can be as 34DE 43 DT. He can be the piece where a team can run a hybrid front.

That's complete crap man.

Williams is constantly double team, and he beats the double team, collapses the pocket, or moves the QB, drives the RB east or West.

You honestly think its just the LBers at Bama that are so darn good.

Bama LBers got most of there attention and recognition when Jesse Williams walked on to campus. More so than Dareus.

Proof is in the pudding, this guy has dominated elite talent for 2years, when he knew nothing of the sport or football.

I'm wrong at Times, rarely to be honest. But ill come eat my crow and give kudos to the short pick if he says what you say he is.

But don't water down Williams to boost short that is far from the truth.

Rock N Randy
04-03-2013, 03:37 AM
In the 4th RD the Dallas Cowboys select ...

Chris Faulk, OT, LSU

1. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
2. Jamie Collins LB Southern Miss
3. Kniles Davis RB Arkansas
4. Chris Faulk OT Louisiana State

TexansSeminole
04-03-2013, 04:28 AM
In the 4th RD the Dallas Cowboys select ...

Chris Faulk, OT

There he goes.

Honoring Earl 34
04-03-2013, 05:50 AM
The Steelers select Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan State

http://www.bloguin.com/crystalballrun/images/stories/bell-sparty.jpg

mussop
04-03-2013, 06:27 AM
In the 4th RD the Dallas Cowboys select ...

Chris Faulk, OT, LSU

1. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
2. Jamie Collins LB Southern Miss
3. Kniles Davis RB Arkansas
4. Chris Faulk OT Louisiana State

You son of a .......he was my next pick!

mussop
04-03-2013, 07:04 AM
We shall see. A lot goes into scheme and coaching. So which team a player goes to could make all the difference.

This is absolutely true.

Williams has pass rush ability. He would not be considered for a 34 DE if he didn't
than just a one gap NT. He is more diverse than that. Blasphemy!

He had one sack last year. ONE! 3/4 DE's generally aren't good pass rushers. You can go look at any scouting report out there and they are all basically the same as what I said in previous post. He is not considered a good pass rusher.

Bama LBers got most of there attention and recognition when Jesse Williams walked on to campus. More so than Dareus.

Are you saying he was better at Bama than Darious? If you are you are wrong.


I'm wrong at Times, rarely to be honest. But ill come eat my crow and give kudos to the short pick if he says what you say he is.

Better come on an empty stomach!

But don't water down Williams to boost short that is far from the truth.

He is a good run plugging DL who can command double teams because of his really good strong bull rush. That's not putting him down, thats just telling it like it is. He is good and deserves to be drafted early in the second round, but he does not have the ceiling/talent that Short has. However I would also say he has a higher floor that Short has.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 07:09 AM
On the clock at 7:00 A.M.

19 116 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
notified


20 117 Chicago - Dutchrudder -
21 118 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
22 119 Washington - SteelBTexan -
23 120 Minnesota - NCTexan -
24 121 Indianapolis - Rey -

Rey
04-03-2013, 09:29 AM
I'm ready to make my pick.

Rock N Randy
04-03-2013, 09:29 AM
This is absolutely true.



He had one sack last year. ONE! 3/4 DE's generally aren't good pass rushers. You can go look at any scouting report out there and they are all basically the same as what I said in previous post. He is not considered a good pass rusher.



Are you saying he was better at Bama than Darious? If you are you are wrong.




Better come on an empty stomach!



He is a good run plugging DL who can command double teams because of his really good strong bull rush. That's not putting him down, thats just telling it like it is. He is good and deserves to be drafted early in the second round, but he does not have the ceiling/talent that Short has. However I would also say he has a higher floor that Short has.


I think you just agreed and disagreed with me all at the same time lol
Good sports banter
We shall see
No I would not take Williams over Dareus but its not like Dareus is lighting up the NFL

Rey
04-03-2013, 09:34 AM
Why is Vacarro rated so highly?

I've watched him play and I don't get it.

I'd want no parts of him and I think there are much better players who are ranked behind him...even at the position he plays....

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 09:41 AM
Why is Vacarro rated so highly?

I've watched him play and I don't get it.

I'd want no parts of him and I think there are much better players who are ranked behind him...even at the position he plays....

Thi is what I see.

He's good, but not a top 20-30 pick like most have him rated.

When I'm thinking of a top 15 S, players like Reed, Polamalu,Sean Taylor come to mind. I see Vaccaro as more Glover Quin than those guys. Good, but certainly not worth a top 15 type pick.

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 10:04 AM
I have to go to a funeral this morning .... I hope to be back in time to make my cincy pick but Im not prepared to do so right now .... If I dont make it back before the time expires .... Im looking at the secondary.

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 10:26 AM
I have to go to a funeral this morning .... I hope to be back in time to make my cincy pick but Im not prepared to do so right now .... If I dont make it back before the time expires .... Im looking at the secondary.

Thoughts and Prayers

Stay strong for your wife/family.

Let me know if I can help in any way.

htownfan32
04-03-2013, 10:49 AM
The NYG select Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno St.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 10:53 AM
The NYG select Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno St.

You're cutting it close! :bat:

I think you get good value for the pick.
He tested well in the agility department; if that part shows up better in his play, it could be a decent steal in the draft.

Dutchrudder
04-03-2013, 11:05 AM
With the 117th pick in the 2013 TT Mock Draft, da Bears select:

Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz6fhFhHdtfK-N59YvtQ6Esah064zMWKwkmk9k_UWLEO3CbdjU

The Bears need another linebacker to help fill the void of Brian Urlacher and Nick Roach. Reddick has the pass rushing ability to get to the QB if needed, so he may play on the outside instead of in the middle. In any case, he's a talented guy to get at this point in the draft so I couldn't pass him up.

htownfan32
04-03-2013, 11:07 AM
You're cutting it close! :bat:

I think you get good value for the pick.
He tested well in the agility department; if that part shows up better in his play, it could be a decent steal in the draft.

hahaha unfortunately I am. Good thing I checked my email when I woke up, otherwise I would have forgotten entirely.

Fred
04-03-2013, 11:11 AM
You're cutting it close! :bat:



Looks like whoever is on the clock at 7 AM never picks before 10:50. Getting more picks 7-11 PM than AM.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 11:19 AM
Looks like whoever is on the clock at 7 AM never picks before 10:50. Getting more picks 7-11 PM than AM.

Yeah, but now we'll have to wait for corrosion.
He might not be back in time and hinted that he'd like for us to look at the secondary just in case, and I'm assuming safety.

There are still some very good value out there - at least 4 or 5 of them.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 11:21 AM
With the 117th pick in the 2013 TT Mock Draft, da Bears select:

Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz6fhFhHdtfK-N59YvtQ6Esah064zMWKwkmk9k_UWLEO3CbdjU

The Bears need another linebacker to help fill the void of Brian Urlacher and Nick Roach. Reddick has the pass rushing ability to get to the QB if needed, so he may play on the outside instead of in the middle. In any case, he's a talented guy to get at this point in the draft so I couldn't pass him up.

I think he will do well with the Bears.

NCTexan
04-03-2013, 11:23 AM
With the 117th pick in the 2013 TT Mock Draft, da Bears select:

Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz6fhFhHdtfK-N59YvtQ6Esah064zMWKwkmk9k_UWLEO3CbdjU

The Bears need another linebacker to help fill the void of Brian Urlacher and Nick Roach. Reddick has the pass rushing ability to get to the QB if needed, so he may play on the outside instead of in the middle. In any case, he's a talented guy to get at this point in the draft so I couldn't pass him up.


He's great value at this point in the draft. If he had fallen to my next pick I may have taken him from a value stand point alone. He has the ability to do extremely well in the NFL if he can put it all together a little bit more.

Rock N Randy
04-03-2013, 11:25 AM
Why is Vacarro rated so highly?

I've watched him play and I don't get it.

I'd want no parts of him and I think there are much better players who are ranked behind him...even at the position he plays....

I agree
I would not draft Vaccaro that early
But I'm thinking like Jerry Jones and what they need
I truly think they will go defense and prolly look at Safety

76Texan
04-03-2013, 11:35 AM
On the clock at 11:20 A.M.


21 118 Cincinnati - Corrosion -


22 119 Washington - SteelBTexan -
23 120 Minnesota - NCTexan -
24 121 Indianapolis - Rey -

Corrosion has a funeral to tend to; he might or might not make it back in time.

TexansSeminole
04-03-2013, 12:36 PM
I have Shawn Williams, safety out of UGA, rated pretty highly and if Corrosion is lookin for a guy in the secondary, this strong safety is good value in my opinion. There's 3 or 4 safeties here that are all rated pretty close together. Duke Williams and Earl Wolfe are included in that group.

Value seems to be better at safety than corner right here, but that's probably because I haven't seen alot of the corners left play.

Dutchrudder
04-03-2013, 12:41 PM
Cincy draft so far, 10 picks total:

Pick Overall Team General Manager Player Position School
21 21 Cincinnati - Corrosion - D.J. Fluker OT Alabama
5 37 Cincinnati - Corrosion - Arthur Brown ILB Kansas State
23 53 Cincinnati - Corrosion - Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA
22 84 Cincinnati - Corrosion - Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
21 118 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
23 156 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
22 190 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
29 197 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
34 240 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
45 251 Cincinnati - Corrosion -

Safety and Center/Guard are two of their big needs still remaining. Probably should address Safety first.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 02:28 PM
I have Shawn Williams, safety out of UGA, rated pretty highly and if Corrosion is lookin for a guy in the secondary, this strong safety is good value in my opinion. There's 3 or 4 safeties here that are all rated pretty close together. Duke Williams and Earl Wolfe are included in that group.

Value seems to be better at safety than corner right here, but that's probably because I haven't seen alot of the corners left play.

Any of them three will do: Shawn, Earl, then Duke.

However, I like the potential of 3 other guys better.
I just post about it in Doppler's mock thread.

Rey
04-03-2013, 02:37 PM
Corrosion said he was at a funeral...Said he wanted a DB if he wasn't back in time....

I have to go to a funeral this morning .... I hope to be back in time to make my cincy pick but Im not prepared to do so right now .... If I dont make it back before the time expires .... Im looking at the secondary.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 02:42 PM
Corrosion said he was at a funeral...Said he wanted a DB if he wasn't back in time....

Yeah, we know; that's why we've been talking about safeties.

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 02:49 PM
Im back .... Just walked in the door. I'll make my selection shortly , just need a few minutes to get my kids taken care of , get out of this clown suit and look over the DB's remaining.


Sorry for the delay ....

TexansSeminole
04-03-2013, 02:51 PM
Im back .... Just walked in the door. I'll make my selection shortly , just need a few minutes to get my kids taken care of , get out of this clown suit and look over the DB's remaining.


Sorry for the delay ....

It's all good in the hood.

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 03:31 PM
#118 Cincy Will Davis (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824516/will-davis), CB - Utah State.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 03:33 PM
At 119, the Redskins select OT Reid Fragel, Ohio St.

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 03:37 PM
Just four picks until my next selection for the Texans .... Lets see if you guy's shake up my board again ... :smiliepalm:

76Texan
04-03-2013, 03:39 PM
#118 Cincy Will Davis (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824516/will-davis), CB - Utah State.

Great athlete; lots of potential.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 03:43 PM
On the clock at 3:45 PM


23 120 Minnesota - NCTexan -


24 121 Indianapolis - Rey -
25 122 Green Bay - Mussop -
26 123 Seattle - Blake -
27 124 Houston - Corrosion -
28 125 Denver - SenorStan -
29 126 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
31 128 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 03:45 PM
The NYG select Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno St.

He has real good instincts and hands. Could be a steal at this point in the draft.

mussop
04-03-2013, 03:45 PM
Just four picks until my next selection for the Texans .... Lets see if you guy's shake up my board again ... :smiliepalm:

Ill see what I can do. :)

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 03:47 PM
With the 117th pick in the 2013 TT Mock Draft, da Bears select:

Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz6fhFhHdtfK-N59YvtQ6Esah064zMWKwkmk9k_UWLEO3CbdjU

The Bears need another linebacker to help fill the void of Brian Urlacher and Nick Roach. Reddick has the pass rushing ability to get to the QB if needed, so he may play on the outside instead of in the middle. In any case, he's a talented guy to get at this point in the draft so I couldn't pass him up.

I was kind of hoping that he fell to the Texans at this point in the draft.

Good player/Great leader.

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=76Texan;2147281]At 119, the Redskins select OT Reid Fragel, Ohio St.

Fragel is a former TE, Great feet and work ethic. He was the strongest OT at the combine.

The Texansw should think about trading up to the end of the 3rd, top of the 4th rd and taking Fragel. He's fairly new to the OT position. Football seems to mean alot to Fragel. He would be an upgrade to Newton even if Newtons healthy. IMHO

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 04:13 PM
Ill see what I can do. :)

I almost feel like you've been looking over my shoulder at my list from the get go ....:bat:

76Texan
04-03-2013, 04:21 PM
Fragel is a former TE, Great feet and work ethic. He was the strongest OT at the combine.

The Texansw should think about trading up to the end of the 3rd, top of the 4th rd and taking Fragel. He's fairly new to the OT position. Football seems to mean alot to Fragel. He would be an upgrade to Newton even if Newtons healthy. IMHO

He looks pretty good against Wisconsin and Illinois.
Doesn't look like a 6'8 guy at all as he plays with very good base.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 06:31 PM
Mussop and all, please don't cluster the Resource thread.
Let's keep it clean so everybody can find things easier.


Yeah, I think Dutch missed the OTs (and the QBs) in the pie chart.

76Texan
04-03-2013, 06:34 PM
On the clock at 3:45 PM


23 120 Minnesota - NCTexan -


24 121 Indianapolis - Rey -
25 122 Green Bay - Mussop -
26 123 Seattle - Blake -
27 124 Houston - Corrosion -
28 125 Denver - SenorStan -
29 126 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
31 128 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

Bump

NCTexan
04-03-2013, 06:56 PM
Hey guys!

So sorry for the delay. I thought I would be back sooner. I should've messaged my picks.

Vikings need some help on the OL. After shoring up the tackle position with Kalil next year, they look to upgrade the OL with

Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas

He has speed and strength to help shore up the middle of the line and is great value at this point in the draft.

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 07:02 PM
Mussop and all, please don't cluster the Resource thread.
Let's keep it clean so everybody can find things easier.


Yeah, I think Dutch missed the OTs (and the QBs) in the pie chart.

Why dont you lock it like the picks thread ....

Wolf6151
04-03-2013, 08:34 PM
Hey guys!

So sorry for the delay. I thought I would be back sooner. I should've messaged my picks.

Vikings need some help on the OL. After shoring up the tackle position with Kalil next year, they look to upgrade the OL with

Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas

He has speed and strength to help shore up the middle of the line and is great value at this point in the draft.


Very good pick. I'm hoping the Texans select him in the 3rd or 4th round.

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 08:52 PM
I cant believe Bailey was there in the 4th rd.

Corrosion
04-03-2013, 09:25 PM
Im out for the night.

Rey
04-03-2013, 10:06 PM
With the 121st pick the colts selects LB, Sean Porter, Texas a&m

Surprised he's still there. I've watched him and I wouldn't be mad at all if he was a texans pick in real life. I think he is a really versatile, solid player. Will likely play inside, but can play inside some as well. Can rush the passer, drop back in coverage and weave through traffic to take down ball carriers in the run game.

Colts draft:

1) Desmond Trufant
2) (traded for vonta Davis)
3) David Quessenberry
4) Sean Porter


Would not be a good thing if colts had this draft in real life IMO.

NCTexan
04-03-2013, 10:54 PM
Very good pick. I'm hoping the Texans select him in the 3rd or 4th round.

I cant believe Bailey was there in the 4th rd.

Thanks guys!


Neither could I. I had him rated higher. I searched his name on the draft list a couple of time just to make sure. I even tried misspelling it in case it was in the master list because I was sure he was gone.

Dutchrudder
04-03-2013, 11:28 PM
25 122 Green Bay - Mussop -
26 123 Seattle - Blake -
27 124 Houston - Corrosion -
28 125 Denver - SenorStan -
29 126 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
31 128 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

steelbtexan
04-03-2013, 11:29 PM
Thanks guys!


Neither could I. I had him rated higher. I searched his name on the draft list a couple of time just to make sure. I even tried misspelling it in case it was in the master list because I was sure he was gone.

LOL this sounds like me

76Texan
04-03-2013, 11:39 PM
Thanks guys!


Neither could I. I had him rated higher. I searched his name on the draft list a couple of time just to make sure. I even tried misspelling it in case it was in the master list because I was sure he was gone.

His name was on the lists of a couple of people who sent me their absentee choices, but in each case, there's another player (I don't remember which position) that they rated higher.

mussop
04-04-2013, 12:56 AM
Green Bay takes Michael Buchanon DE/OLB Illinois

mussop
04-04-2013, 01:00 AM
I cant believe Bailey was there in the 4th rd.

I can't either.

Wolf6151
04-04-2013, 05:27 AM
Man I'm scratching lots of names off my board lately, Bailey, Reddick, Phillip Thomas, Hawthorne, Rambo, Aboushi, Buchanan, etc... I'll make it through the 5th round, I think, and then I'm gonna have to find some new prospects.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 08:06 AM
Man I'm scratching lots of names off my board lately, Bailey, Reddick, Phillip Thomas, Hawthorne, Rambo, Aboushi, Buchanan, etc... I'll make it through the 5th round, I think, and then I'm gonna have to find some new prospects.

Just take a TE! :ahhaha:

76Texan
04-04-2013, 08:08 AM
With the 123rd pick, the Seahawks select QB Mike Glennon, N.C. State.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 08:11 AM
Glennon is backing up Russell Wilson again!

It's a good match as the Wolfpacks run a WCO.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 08:12 AM
On the clock at 8:15 A.M.


27 124 Houston - Corrosion -


28 125 Denver - SenorStan -
29 126 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
31 128 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

Corrosion
04-04-2013, 08:20 AM
Texans # 124 - A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 08:22 AM
Texans # 124 - A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State.

Obviously, you didn't get the hint about:lol: the TE! :wadepalm:

mussop
04-04-2013, 08:29 AM
Texans # 124 - A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State.

love it for the Texans at this point. I knew I should of drafted him and took Buchanan next round. Seriously considered it.

Corrosion
04-04-2013, 08:36 AM
love it for the Texans at this point. I knew I should of drafted him and took Buchanan next round. Seriously considered it.


This might be a bit early for Klein but I think he's the perfect fit next to Cushing. Klein's ability in coverage is the draw for me.


I believe Nico Johnson is still available but he's not the same type of player even if he is rated a bit higher.

Obviously, you didn't get the hint about:lol: the TE! :wadepalm:


Well ... Klein looks like a TE ..... :truck:

mussop
04-04-2013, 08:40 AM
This might be a bit early for Klein but I think he's the perfect fit next to Cushing. Klein's ability in coverage is the draw for me

Don't think it's to early for him. I agree he would look real good next to Cushing.

Seņor Stan
04-04-2013, 08:44 AM
The Denver Broncos select...

Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut

Seņor Stan
04-04-2013, 08:45 AM
29 126 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
31 128 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

Seņor Stan
04-04-2013, 08:52 AM
Denver's draft so far...

1 (28) Demontre Moore DE Texas A&M
2 (58) Jesse Williams DT Oklahoma
3 (90) Marcus Lattimore RB South Carolina
4 (125) Dwayne Gratz CB Connecticut

Ndevine7
04-04-2013, 09:17 AM
With their 2nd pick in the 4th round, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse

TexansSeminole
04-04-2013, 09:20 AM
It's on b0ng and he hasn't been on in four days.

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 09:26 AM
It's on b0ng and he hasn't been on in four days.

Any suggestions, should we start thinking about replacing him?

Seņor Stan
04-04-2013, 09:26 AM
Pick it, pack it, fire it up come along...and make the pick for the b0ng [/cypresshill]

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 09:28 AM
This might be a bit early for Klein but I think he's the perfect fit next to Cushing. Klein's ability in coverage is the draw for me.


I believe Nico Johnson is still available but he's not the same type of player even if he is rated a bit higher.




Well ... Klein looks like a TE ..... :truck:

Man, you're nailing this draft.

Rick/Gary/Wade could only hope to do as well. If only BoB willlet them take those type players.

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 09:31 AM
Denver's draft so far...

1 (28) Demontre Moore DE Texas A&M
2 (58) Jesse Williams DT Oklahoma
3 (90) Marcus Lattimore RB South Carolina
4 (125) Dwayne Gratz CB Connecticut

That's a very solid draft.

Fills holes, has potential to be great, depending on Lattimore. Williams is very underrated.

Seņor Stan
04-04-2013, 09:39 AM
That's a very solid draft.

Fills holes, has potential to be great, depending on Lattimore. Williams is very underrated.

I had a twinge of buyers remorse on Lattimore. Still a lot of talent on the board at that point. High risk, high reward. If healthy he could be the best back in the draft. If.

Seņor Stan
04-04-2013, 09:40 AM
With their 2nd pick in the 4th round, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse

That's a steal at the end of the 4th. I've seen him mocked in the 1st...

Corrosion
04-04-2013, 09:55 AM
Man, you're nailing this draft.

Rick/Gary/Wade could only hope to do as well. If only BoB willlet them take those type players.

I think Ive hit on most of the needs with value at each selection .... But that Dobson pick kinda threw a monkey wrench into my draft. But damn he was just too good to let slip past me again .... Ive got one glaring weakness left to fill as well as some depth at key positions but overall Im happy with the results.

1) Kwann Short
2) Da'Rick Rodgers
3) Aaron Dobson
3b) Cornelius Washington
4) A.J. Klein


My Cincy draft may be better than what Ive landed for the Texans so far.

1) D.J. Fluker
2) Arthur Brown
2b) Johnathan Franklin
3) Chase Thomas
4) Will Davis

I think the Bungles would be thrilled with this outcome on draft day.

WolverineFan
04-04-2013, 10:54 AM
So are we going to pick for B0ng or just wait it out?

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 11:12 AM
I've got to step out of the office until about 2:00/2:30. If he hasn't made a pick by then make one for him and then somebody (Probably 76) can take over for him.

Rock N Randy
04-04-2013, 01:39 PM
Im ready for Baltimore
Been waiting two days
I know exactly where I'm going

76Texan
04-04-2013, 01:56 PM
So are we going to pick for B0ng or just wait it out?

Comcast sucks.
I have had so much problem with cable and Internet lately.

Where are at?
What do the Falcons need?
Can somebody catch me up?

So they took a DE, a CB, and a RB.
What now?

Dutchrudder
04-04-2013, 02:03 PM
Well they have a lot of picks, so this is going to be a pain in the ass if we keep doing these as a group. So far:

30 30 Atlanta - Bong - Margus Hunt DE SMU
30 60 Atlanta - Bong - Jamar Taylor CB Boise State
30 92 Atlanta - Bong - Gioviani Bernard RB UNC
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -
30 163 Atlanta - Bong -
30 198 Atlanta - Bong -
30 236 Atlanta - Bong -
37 243 Atlanta - Bong -
38 244 Atlanta - Bong -
43 249 Atlanta - Bong -

I suggest someone just take over the team until Bong gets back. There are a lot of picks to be made and it would be easier if someone was actually in charge of it.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Well they have a lot of picks, so this is going to be a pain in the ass if we keep doing these as a group. So far:

30 30 Atlanta - Bong - Margus Hunt DE SMU
30 60 Atlanta - Bong - Jamar Taylor CB Boise State
30 92 Atlanta - Bong - Gioviani Bernard RB UNC
30 127 Atlanta - Bong -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -
30 163 Atlanta - Bong -
30 198 Atlanta - Bong -
30 236 Atlanta - Bong -
37 243 Atlanta - Bong -
38 244 Atlanta - Bong -
43 249 Atlanta - Bong -

I suggest someone just take over the team until Bong gets back. There are a lot of picks to be made and it would be easier if someone was actually in charge of it.
Problem is I don't know what they need.

I just took a quick look at their MB board, and I saw people mentioned anothe DE, a DT, an OLB, a WR , a TE , and another CB.

Any idea?
If somebody can help me get started, I'll take it over.

And then we still have the Bills coming up.

We need some volunteers here.

Honoring Earl 34
04-04-2013, 02:11 PM
Problem is I don't know what they need.

I just took a quick look at their MB board, and I saw people mentioned anothe DE, a DT, an OLB, a WR , a TE , and another CB.

Any idea?
If somebody can help me get started, I'll take it over.

And then we still have the Bills coming up.

We need some volunteers here.

http://walterfootball.com/offseason2013atl.php


Team Needs:
Two Defensive Ends: The Falcons can't put any pressure on the quarterback whatsoever. John Abraham and Ray Edwards were released in the past six months. The front office could double dip at this position during the draft. Signed Osi Umenyiora


Running Back: This is an obvious need. Michael Turner was cut, so the Falcons need to bring in a replacement. There will be plenty of backs available on Day 2 of the 2013 NFL Draft. Signed Steven Jackson


Linebacker: The Falcons' play at linebacker must improve. Stephen Nicholas can't be on the field on all three downs, while Akeem Dent was a disappointment in his first season as a starter. The team needs to find a linebacker capable of playing all three downs with Sean Weatherspoon. Signed Brian Banks


Defensive Tackle: Atlanta will look for a defensive tackle to complement Jonathan Babineaux this offseason. Someone like Kawann Short makes sense at the end of the first round this April.


Cornerback: Depth is needed. Brent Grimes is a free agent coming off a torn Achilles. Dunta Robinson, meanwhile, was recently cut.


Right Tackle: Tyson Clabo was a surprising release. He'll have to be replaced.


Tight End: Tony Gonzalez will likely retire this offseason. If that's the case, Atlanta may draft a tight end early. If he comes back, a successor could be found. Re-signed Tony Gonzalez


Interior Lineman: The Falcons will need a new right guard or center, depending on where they want to put Peter Konz. Todd McClure retired. Luckily, this upcoming draft is deep in terms of interior blockers. Re-signed Garrett Reynolds


Left Tackle: Sam Baker finally got over his chronic back issues, which is why he played well in 2012. However, he's now a free agent who must be retained. Re-signed Sam Baker


Strong Safety: William Moore is another free agent who has to be brought back. Re-signed William Moore


Wide Receiver: Atlanta has to find receiving depth, especially with R

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 02:13 PM
I will take over the Bills,

Hopefully Bong makes it back.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 02:16 PM
I will take over the Bills,

Hopefully Bong makes it back.

OK, I'll take the Falcons until somebody wants it.

Falcons take TE Vance McDonald, Rice.

That is, if he's still available.

Thanks Earl, I found another similar piece to the one you posted.

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 02:19 PM
OK, I'll take the Falcons until somebody wants it.

Falcons take TE Vance McDonald, Rice.

That is, if he's still available.

Thanks Earl, I found another similar piece to the one you posted.

He's not available.

Chek the TT resources thread to see Who has been picked.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 02:37 PM
Falcons take OT Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech

76Texan
04-04-2013, 02:47 PM
On the clock at 2:50 P.M.

31 128 San Francisco - WolverineFan -

Wolverine has been notified.

32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 03:10 PM
Falcons take OT Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech

Great pick, especially on short notice.

WolverineFan
04-04-2013, 03:17 PM
Falcons take OT Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech

Wow, you are kidding. Thanks for stealing my pick 76!

WolverineFan
04-04-2013, 03:25 PM
With the 128th pick the San Francisco 49ers select

Stedman Bailey - WR, West Virginia

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/001/912/353/hi-res-153039838_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75

The 49ers added Anquan Boldin during the offseason, but they more speed at WR. Bailey can play out of the slot and also stretch the field vertically for SF.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 03:26 PM
With the 128th pick the San Francisco 49ers select

Stedman Bailey - WR, West Virginia


The 49ers added Anquan Boldin during the offseason, but they more speed at WR. Bailey can play out of the slot and also stretch the field vertically for SF.

Now, you're stealing mine, LOL!

WolverineFan
04-04-2013, 03:35 PM
Now, you're stealing mine, LOL!

Revenge is at hand!

76Texan
04-04-2013, 03:37 PM
Revenge is at hand!

I'm fearing that... yet again! :kubepalm:

76Texan
04-04-2013, 03:39 PM
On the clock at 3:30 P.M.

32 129 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 130 Baltimore - RockNRandy -

RNR has been notified.


34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - Bong -

Round 5:

1 134 Kansas City - Wolf6151 -
2 135 Jacksonville - Blake -
3 136 Philadelphia - TexansSeminole -
4 137 Detroit - 76Texan -
5 138 Seattle - Blake -
6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -

RT22
04-04-2013, 04:11 PM
I can take the Falcons over.

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 04:16 PM
I can take the Falcons over.

I'm sure 76 wont mind.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 04:22 PM
I can take the Falcons over.

I'm sure 76 wont mind.

OK, RT22, please take over the Falcons and I will take care of the Bills until b0ng or somebody wants it.

RT22
04-04-2013, 04:29 PM
Got it. Thanks.

Rock N Randy
04-04-2013, 04:42 PM
Baltimore selects .... Marquise Goodwin, WR/PR/KR, Texas

A speed specialist. A WR who has Olympic track speed.
Joe Flacco has one of the strongest arms in Football
Put Goodwin in the slot with Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith on the outside... OMG
Let Flacco throw bombs!
Plus with Reed going to Houston
A PR/KR specialist was needed
Outside of Tavon Austin, Goodman is the second best threat with the ball in his hands on ST. 4.2-4.3 speed, can't coach that. Goodwin had a monster senior bowl and combine
I do believe he will go higher than late 4th rounder.

Baltimore selects... Joe Kruger, DL, Utah
A hybrid DLman that Baltimore can use in multiple fronts and looks
Great bloodlines and diverse.
I think he will settle at 34 DE.
Surprised Cleveland didn't nab him.
At 6'6 270 he has the tools and size
His brother Paul has become a borderline star
Like his brother Paul, I think Joe is on his way sooner than later.


I'm a beast GM gosh
(Pat self on back)

Ravens 2013 Draft Class:
1- Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
2- Ryan Swope, WR, TAMU
3- Gavin Escobar, TE, SDSU
4- Marquise Goodwin, WR/PR/KR, Texas
4- Joe Kruger, DL, Utah

Joe Flacco's team. They transition from a defensive team to a offensive team.
Add weapons for Joe Flacco. As evident with the 4 of the 5 picks are offense.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 04:53 PM
Baltimore selects .... Marquise Goodwin, WR/PR/KR, Texas

A speed specialist. A WR who has Olympic track speed.
Joe Flacco has one of the strongest arms in Football
Put Goodwin in the slot with Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith on the outside... OMG
Let Flacco throw bombs!
Plus with Reed going to Houston
A PR/KR specialist was needed
Outside of Tavon Austin, Goodman is the second best threat with the ball in his hands on ST.

Baltimore selects... Joe Kruger, DL, Utah
A hybrid DLman that Baltimore can use in multiple fronts and looks
Great bloodlines and diverse.
I think he will settle at 34 DE.
Surprised Cleveland didn't nab him.

I'm a beast GM gosh
(Pat self on back)
That's a lot of speed for sure... if Goodman doesn't get knocked off the line first.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 04:55 PM
On the clock at 5:00 P.M.

34 131 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
Quit stealing my pick, LOL!


35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - RT22 -

Round 5:

1 134 Kansas City - Wolf6151 -
2 135 Jacksonville - Blake -
3 136 Philadelphia - TexansSeminole -
4 137 Detroit - 76Texan -
5 138 Seattle - Blake -
6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -

WolverineFan
04-04-2013, 04:59 PM
With the 131st pick the San Francisco 49ers select...

Xavier Nixon - OT, Florida

SF is pretty thin at OT and could use a swing tackle for depth. Nixon is extremely talented, but was up and down this year.

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 05:09 PM
Changes have been made

Buffalo = Beerlover
Atlanta = RT22

Thanks guys for helping out.

Dutchrudder
04-04-2013, 05:14 PM
Cool, I'll update the picks. FYI, Buffalo only has 2 picks left. Now 76 is on the clock:

35 132 Detroit - 76Texan -
36 133 Atlanta - RT22 -
1 134 Kansas City - Wolf6151 -
2 135 Jacksonville - Blake -
3 136 Philadelphia - TexansSeminole -
4 137 Detroit - 76Texan -
5 138 Seattle - Blake -
6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -
7 140 Arizona - SteelBTexan -
8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 -
9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -

76Texan
04-04-2013, 05:18 PM
With the 132nd pick, the Lions select Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma.

There are some solid receivers still out there, but Stills has too much potential and can run routes from any spot on the field, short and long.

You should know it never takes me too long unless I'm not able to get online (when Comcast sucks.)

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 05:23 PM
Baltimore selects .... Marquise Goodwin, WR/PR/KR, Texas

A speed specialist. A WR who has Olympic track speed.
Joe Flacco has one of the strongest arms in Football
Put Goodwin in the slot with Jacoby Jones and Torrey Smith on the outside... OMG
Let Flacco throw bombs!
Plus with Reed going to Houston
A PR/KR specialist was needed
Outside of Tavon Austin, Goodman is the second best threat with the ball in his hands on ST. 4.2-4.3 speed, can't coach that. Goodwin had a monster senior bowl and combine
I do believe he will go higher than late 4th rounder.

Baltimore selects... Joe Kruger, DL, Utah
A hybrid DLman that Baltimore can use in multiple fronts and looks
Great bloodlines and diverse.
I think he will settle at 34 DE.
Surprised Cleveland didn't nab him.
At 6'6 270 he has the tools and size
His brother Paul has become a borderline star
Like his brother Paul, I think Joe is on his way sooner than later.


I'm a beast GM gosh
(Pat self on back)

Ravens 2013 Draft Class:
1- Menelik Watson, OT, FSU
2- Ryan Swope, WR, TAMU
3- Gavin Escobar, TE, SDSU
4- Marquise Goodwin, WR/PR/KR, Texas
4- Joe Kruger, DL, Utah

Joe Flacco's team. They transition from a defensive team to a offensive team.
Add weapons for Joe Flacco. As evident with the 4 of the 5 picks are offense.

A very good draft Randy- the- Ravenator.

This just shows how deep this draft is.

RT22
04-04-2013, 05:40 PM
With pick #133 the Falcons select DE Devin Taylor South Carolina 6'-7" 266 lbs.

NCTexan
04-04-2013, 05:44 PM
With the 132nd pick, the Lions select Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma.

There are some solid receivers still out there, but Stills has too much potential and can run routes from any spot on the field, short and long.

You should know it never takes me too long unless I'm not able to get online (when Comcast sucks.)

Dammit. He was my second choice last pick and I was hoping he'd keep slipping through the cracks.

Wolf6151
04-04-2013, 05:51 PM
The 4th round is complete. LET THE 5TH ROUND BEGIN.


#134 the Kansas City Chiefs select Josh Evans-S from Florida. Evans is currently listed a an upper 4th round pick and fills a Chiefs team need very well.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 05:54 PM
With pick #133 the Falcons select DE Devin Taylor South Carolina 6'-7" 266 lbs.

He was one of the guys I considered for the Falcons, and the one guy I like the most at that position at this point in time.

Just don't know how it turns out. :roast:

76Texan
04-04-2013, 05:55 PM
Dammit. He was my second choice last pick and I was hoping he'd keep slipping through the cracks.

I've been waiting and waiting and waiting, LOL!

There are still values out there though.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 05:56 PM
The 4th round is complete. LET THE 5TH ROUND BEGIN.


#134 the Kansas City Chiefs select Josh Evans-S from Florida. Evans is currently listed a an upper 4th round pick and fills a Chiefs team need very well.

I think this is where we start seeing some values for the position.

Wolf6151
04-04-2013, 05:59 PM
I think this is where we start seeing some values for the position.

Agreed. There's still some good value to be had at WR and Safety, and some better than average depth QB's who might start in a year or so.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 05:59 PM
On the clock at 6:00 P.M.

2 135 Jacksonville - Blake -
Notified

3 136 Philadelphia - TexansSeminole -
4 137 Detroit - 76Texan -
5 138 Seattle - Blake -
6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -
7 140 Arizona - SteelBTexan -
8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 -
9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -

76Texan
04-04-2013, 06:01 PM
Agreed. There's still some good value to be had at WR and Safety, and some better than average depth QB's who might start in a year or so.

Either solid back up or a diamond in the rough, here they come...

Or just a waste of roster space, LOL!

76Texan
04-04-2013, 06:14 PM
Another new feature to the spreadsheet, I'm now tracking the conference! See how incredibly skewed the draft has been towards the SEC:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/oimg?key=0AscQRwKjB5B9dGc3SmxVcHhlLUlseFdfLVp2Rjl3 V2c&oid=5&zx=gixi766shi98

Hey, I'm only at 25%

The Aggies are screwing the Big 12 over. :roast: :hides:

Blake
04-04-2013, 07:20 PM
Jags take ILB Jon Bostic, Florida

76Texan
04-04-2013, 08:06 PM
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TexansSeminole
04-04-2013, 08:28 PM
With the 136th pick the Philadelphia Eagles select...

Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

Rock N Randy
04-04-2013, 08:28 PM
Jags take ILB Jon Bostic, Florida

:smiliepalm: I thought he went a long time ago
Son of a gun...
I need a ILB for Baltimore but I thought they were all gone after AJ Klien went.

Mannnnnn that's lame.

Blake
04-04-2013, 08:29 PM
Jags take ILB Jon Bostic, Florida

About time somebody takes him.

I think the Texans can wait until the 4th round and still get a good ILB who can step in if needed.

I also would have liked to see the Texans get their WR in round 1 and worry about a DT in rounds 2 or three since there are alot of good ones.

WolverineFan
04-04-2013, 08:30 PM
With the 136th pick the Philadelphia Eagles select...

Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

Pretty sure he's already been drafted.

Corrosion
04-04-2013, 08:35 PM
I think the Texans can wait until the 4th round and still get a good ILB who can step in if needed.

I also would have liked to see the Texans get their WR in round 1 and worry about a DT in rounds 2 or three since there are alot of good ones.

Rogers and Dobson .... not good enough for you at WR ?!! Both have just as much potential as any WR in this draft.


Both WR and DT are pretty loaded with talent well into the draft. Had I taken a WR you could have swapped the statement around and ..... I dont think you can go wrong either way.

TexansSeminole
04-04-2013, 08:52 PM
With the 136th pick the Philadelphia Eagles select...

Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

Pretty sure he's already been drafted.

I wondered why he was still there.

With the 136th pick the Philadelphia Eagles select...

Jordan Hill, DE, Penn State

With the Eagles switching to the 3-4, it's been all defense in the first 5 rounds.

1. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
2. John Jenkins, NT, Georgia
3. Corey Lemonier, OLB, Auburn
4. William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
5. Jordan Hill, DE, Penn State

76Texan
04-04-2013, 09:45 PM
With the 137th pick, the Lions "reach" for T. J. Barnes, DT, Georgia Tech.

He shows flashes of brilliance that I can't resist.
Such quickness for a big guy.
I looked at the other big guys, but none showed me those few "wow" moments.

Wolf6151
04-04-2013, 09:54 PM
:smiliepalm: I thought he went a long time ago
Son of a gun...
I need a ILB for Baltimore but I thought they were all gone after AJ Klien went.

Mannnnnn that's lame.

PM sent.

steelbtexan
04-04-2013, 10:13 PM
Pretty sure he's already been drafted.

Yep

Buffalo, pick # 105

htownfan32
04-04-2013, 10:47 PM
Hey guys, the next few days are going to be really busy for me. There's a good chance I won't get to be on the laptop at all... Will someone take over NY Giants and the Saints for me?

76Texan
04-04-2013, 10:54 PM
Hey guys, the next few days are going to be really busy for me. There's a good chance I won't get to be on the laptop at all... Will someone take over NY Giants and the Saints for me?

We'll talk about it among ourselves; some of us will take over while you're gone.

Take care!

Who would like these two teams please let us know.

Thanks.

76Texan
04-04-2013, 11:13 PM
Guys,

Check the Mock Draft Resource Threads before you make a selection.

Steelb, Dutch, and I will try to update it as much as we can.

(Check both Dutch's spread sheet and my posts to see which one is more up-to-date.

I will try to remember to keep count when I make the update.

...

Dutch, I think you have the incorrect position for a few guys.
Can you double check.

Kiko Alonso should be an ILB
Arthur Brown should be an OLB

76Texan
04-04-2013, 11:16 PM
Up next:

5 138 Seattle - Blake -


6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -
7 140 Arizona - SteelBTexan -
8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 -
9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -
16 149 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 150 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
18 151 Dallas - RockNRandy -
19 152 New York Giants - htownfan32 -

Blake
04-05-2013, 08:31 AM
Rogers and Dobson .... not good enough for you at WR?!! Both have just as much potential as any WR in this draft.

A guy with authority issues, and failed drug tests who ends up getting kicked off his team, and a guy who had one hundred-yard game last season? Listen, im not saying that it wont work, just that I would have preferred getting a guy like 6'4" Hunter, in round 1 with 4.4 speed and giving our team the best chance of this guy sticking as our #2. And if you still wanted to get a DT in round 1 and a WR in round 2, Terrance Williams from Baylor was still on the board. This guy had 97 catches for over 1800 yards and 12 Touchdowns without RG3.

Again, just one mans opinion or preference. And I understand that you cant please everyone.

Blake
04-05-2013, 08:44 AM
Seattle selects Trevardo Williams, OLB, Connecticut

Typical tweener that is fast and a sackmaster. A combination of LB and DE.

24 sacks over the past 2 seasons.

http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Trevardo-Williams.jpg

76Texan
04-05-2013, 08:58 AM
Seattle selects Trevardo Williams, OLB, Connecticut

Typical tweener that is fast and a sackmaster. A combination of LB and DE.

24 sacks over the past 2 seasons.

Great value!

76Texan
04-05-2013, 09:03 AM
On the clock at 9:00 A.M.

6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -
notified

7 140 Arizona - SteelBTexan -
8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 -
9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -
16 149 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 150 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
18 151 Dallas - RockNRandy -
19 152 New York Giants - htownfan32 -[/QUOTE]

Rey
04-05-2013, 09:08 AM
There was some criticism about the Colts going after the Free agents they did...

But doing this mock, I think I know why they did it...

They don't have very many good picks...No second rounder...I think no 5th rounder....

They needed Free agency to supplement their roster...

Texan4Ever
04-05-2013, 09:08 AM
On the clock at 9:00 A.M.

6 139 Cleveland - Texan4Ever -
notified

7 140 Arizona - SteelBTexan -
8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 -
9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -
16 149 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 150 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
18 151 Dallas - RockNRandy -
19 152 New York Giants - htownfan32 -[/QUOTE]

Glad I logged in, will make pick shortly. Sorry for the wait.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 09:13 AM
There was some criticism about the Colts going after the Free agents they did...

But doing this mock, I think I know why they did it...

They don't have very many good picks...No second rounder...I think no 5th rounder....

They needed Free agency to supplement their roster...

They traded a 2nd and a 6th for Vontae Davis.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 09:15 AM
We need somebody to hold the fort for htownfan32 (he's out for a few days.)

Saints needs:
Needs: DT, OLB, DE, CB, OT, S, WR

Saints picks so far:
Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU
Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
Baccari Rambo, S, Georgia
....

Giants
Needs: ILB, DE, S, OLB, OG, OT, CB, DT, TE, RB

Giants picks so far:
Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas PB
John Simon, DE, Ohio St
Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno St.

Texan4Ever
04-05-2013, 09:19 AM
With the 139th overall pick, the Browns select...

Leon McFadden, CB San Diego St.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/913/731/hi-res-5696038_display_image.jpg?1358576293

Browns need a CB and McFadden is the man. He has a lot of work to do but he has the skills and aggression the Browns need. Former WR, he has fluid hips with natural instincts and fights for the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3nKER5Lls

Seņor Stan
04-05-2013, 09:49 AM
at 9:20AM

7 140 Arizona - SteelBTexan -
8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 -
9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -

76Texan
04-05-2013, 09:58 AM
I talked to Steelb awhile ago; he said he will out for a few hours.

I don't know if he realized his turn was coming up.
I just left a message for him; hopefully, he'll call back soon.

WolverineFan
04-05-2013, 10:11 AM
76....I sent you a PM for my Chargers pick in case I'm not back in time.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 10:12 AM
76....I sent you a PM for my Chargers pick in case I'm not back in time.

Got it! Thanks!

76Texan
04-05-2013, 10:42 AM
With the 139th overall pick, the Browns select...

Leon McFadden, CB San Diego St.

Browns need a CB and McFadden is the man. He has a lot of work to do but he has the skills and aggression the Browns need. Former WR, he has fluid hips with natural instincts and fights for the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3nKER5Lls

Looks like a smart, heady player.
Could be a steal here.
Plays faster than his timed speed (note that he was clocked at 4.39 as his fastest speed while his official time is around 4.5).

I think he has decent speed, just not a track runner so he isn't anywhere as good getting out of the gate like a Marquise Goodwin.

Read that he has some problem with the jam and fighting off blockers.
But he played man a ton (while some others in this draft don't).

I like him a lot, even if a team wants to move him to nickel.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 11:39 AM
The Cardinals select Michael Williams, TE, Alabama.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 12:16 PM
at 11:45AM


8 141 New York Jets - dsr23 --


9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan -
10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -[/QUOTE]

drs23
04-05-2013, 12:24 PM
With the 141st pick the NY Jets select: Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State

76Texan
04-05-2013, 12:34 PM
With the 141st pick the NY Jets select: Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State

Will there be a run on TEs soon? :bubbles:

76Texan
04-05-2013, 12:36 PM
at 12:35AM


9 142 Tennessee - SenorStan --
notified


10 143 Buffalo - Beerlover -
11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 -
12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan -
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -

Seņor Stan
04-05-2013, 12:56 PM
Bud Adams and his Tinnbred Titanics select

Robert Lester,Safety,Alabama

S.E.C. strikes again.

Titans need DB help. Heck, they need help everywhere...

76Texan
04-05-2013, 01:04 PM
Bud Adams and his Tinnbred Titanics select

Robert Lester,Safety,Alabama

S.E.C. strikes again.

Titans need DB help. Heck, they need help everywhere...

Another good value here.
I would hate for the Tacks to get him at this spot.

beerlover
04-05-2013, 01:05 PM
assistant GM beerlover runs to podium before heading to his regular job for one bong to another selecting http://www.sportsbully.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tyrann-mathieu-opy0-743112.jpg
Former LSU CB Tyrann Mathieu

Bills need nickle/dime CB help, low risk high reward player this late in the draft.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 01:09 PM
Matthew is long gone.

BL, read the Mock Draft Resources Thread to verify your pick.

Have you ever open Dutch's spreadsheet to find out what picks Buffalo has made so far?
In case, you don't know, you can search and sort the spreadsheet.

steelbtexan
04-05-2013, 01:35 PM
The Cardinals select Michael Williams, TE, Alabama.

Rob Housler (Fleener) and Micheal Williams allow Arians to run the 2 TE set that he loved to run in Indy. The Cards have upgraded their putrid blocking and added a QB of the future in this draft.

Corrosion
04-05-2013, 01:42 PM
Another good value here.
I would hate for the Tacks to get him at this spot.

Senor Stan has had a hell of a draft top to bottom for the InBreds :smiliepalm:

beerlover
04-05-2013, 02:16 PM
Matthew is long gone.

BL, read the Mock Draft Resources Thread to verify your pick.

Have you ever open Dutch's spreadsheet to find out what picks Buffalo has made so far?
In case, you don't know, you can search and sort the spreadsheet.

Did not see his name but since you mentioned it top of 3rd to Jag's.

I'll go with South Florida CB, Kayvon Webster 5-10 195. Pretty unheralded, but has some tools. Think Texans talked with him as well.

steelbtexan
04-05-2013, 02:25 PM
I will pick for New Orleans,

The Saints are one of the teams that I keep up with.

The Saints draft so far looks like this

Rd.1 Barkevious Mingo
Rd. 3 Akeem Spence
Rd. 4 Baccari Rambo

With the 144th pick in the NFL Mock draft the New Orleans Saints select Jelani Jenkins OLB Florida.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 02:26 PM
Jags take Tyrann Mathieu, CB, L.S.U

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk

Matthew is long gone.

BL, read the Mock Draft Resources Thread to verify your pick.

Have you ever open Dutch's spreadsheet to find out what picks Buffalo has made so far?
In case, you don't know, you can search and sort the spreadsheet.

Did not see his name but since you mentioned it top of 3rd to Jag's.

I'll go with South Florida CB, Kayvon Webster 5-10 195. Pretty unheralded, but has some tools. Think Texans talked with him as well.

Here ya go!

Webster it is!

76Texan
04-05-2013, 02:30 PM
I will pick for New Orleans,

The Saints are one of the teams that I keep up with.

Maybe a DE like Lavar Edwards LSU or David Bass Mizzou SW?

76Texan
04-05-2013, 02:33 PM
Badboy, check your PM.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 02:35 PM
On the clock at 2:30 P.M.


11 144 New Orleans - htownfan32 - Steelb

12 145 San Diego - WolverineFan - pick is in.
13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -
14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -

76Texan
04-05-2013, 03:05 PM
I will pick for New Orleans,

The Saints are one of the teams that I keep up with.

The Saints draft so far looks like this

Rd.1 Barkevious Mingo
Rd. 3 Akeem Spence
Rd. 4 Baccari Rambo

With the 144th pick in the NFL Mock draft the New Orleans Saints select Jelani Jenkins OLB Florida.

Man, I didn't see this.
Let me go pull WolverineFan's pick out of the hat.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 03:07 PM
With the 145th pick, the Chargers select Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 03:16 PM
On the clock at 3:10 P.M.


13 146 Miami - TexansSeminole -

14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -
15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -

All were notified.

16 149 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 150 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
18 151 Dallas - RockNRandy -
19 152 New York Giants - htownfan32/76Texan

Dutchrudder
04-05-2013, 03:44 PM
Spreadsheet is now updated. Btw, please clear your filters on the sheets when you're done so that someone else can use it. All you have to do is either click the filter(s) and "Select All" or hit the filter button at the top of the page twice. Once will turn off filters and the second time will enable it.

Rey
04-05-2013, 03:57 PM
The way I check for who has been drafted is to go into the selection thread and just hit control f and just search for the name...

76Texan
04-05-2013, 04:01 PM
The way I check for who has been drafted is to go into the selection thread and just hit control f and just search for the name...

That's good. (Learned something new.)

I will try to update that thread now that I can.
(When dutch is not here for a long stretch of time.)

...


Well, the only problem is that I don't know if it will affect Dutch.
He may not realize that he has to update the google document if he's not updating the selection thread.
(Ducth, let me know if I should leave it for you to update it or what.)

TexansSeminole
04-05-2013, 04:15 PM
With the 146th pick, the Dolphins select....

Tavarres King, WR, Georgia

steelbtexan
04-05-2013, 04:22 PM
With the 146th pick, the Dolphins select....

Tavarres King, WR, Georgia

I really like this pick.

The Bulldogs were loaded last yr.

Dutchrudder
04-05-2013, 04:23 PM
That's good. (Learned something new.)

I will try to update that thread now that I can.
(When dutch is not here for a long stretch of time.)

...


Well, the only problem is that I don't know if it will affect Dutch.
He may not realize that he has to update the google document if he's not updating the selection thread.
(Ducth, let me know if I should leave it for you to update it or what.)

You guys take care of that thread and I'll do the spreadsheet. If you want to quickly update that thread, you can always copy/paste from the spreadsheet if it's behind.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 05:01 PM
I really like this pick.

The Bulldogs were loaded last yr.

That's why I'm a little concerned about their defensive players.

But King is a solid offensive player; he's not as tall as Massaquoi and is a little smaller, but he makes up for it with his arm length and his ability to get off the jam.
He's not quite as quick, but he's faster.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 05:06 PM
On the clock at 4:15P.M.


14 147 Tampa Bay - Ndevine7 -


15 148 Carolina - HonoringEarl -
16 149 St. Louis - RT22 -
17 150 Pittsburgh - HonoringEarl -
18 151 Dallas - RockNRandy -
19 152 New York Giants - htownfan32/76Texan

76Texan
04-05-2013, 05:29 PM
Blake, according to Greg Cossel, you just hit a home run.

He regarded Glennon as a first round QB.

He think that both Glennon and Nassib are better prospects than Geno Smith... And of course, we've already known that he claimed Barkley is a fourth round talent.

Blake
04-05-2013, 05:33 PM
Yeah thats crazy. Not that he said it, just that its not a shared vision at this time. Most people see alot of these QB's as round 2 and 3 talent. Glennon is just a goofy looking dude that needs to add bulk and probably sit for a year. I could not see him going in round 1 before Geno, EJ Manuel and another guy like a Tyler Bray.

76Texan
04-05-2013, 05:39 PM
Yeah thats crazy. Not that he said it, just that its not a shared vision at this time. Most people see alot of these QB's as round 2 and 3 talent. Glennon is just a goofy looking dude that needs to add bulk and probably sit for a year. I could not see him going in round 1 before Geno, EJ Manuel and another guy like a Tyler Bray.

I see Smith and Barkley in the first; Glennon in the second (better potential than Schaub out of college) and Bray/Manuel as third rounders (might or might not make it as starter.)

Bray has upside, but lacks the mentality; if somebody turns the light on for him, it could work.

Manuel is somewhat similar to VY in the passing game, and slightly less athletic.

Rey
04-05-2013, 05:58 PM
I don't know if this is the right thread for this but I just watched some film on Cornelius Washington, and he is a nice player. I think he has starter potential and I like what I see from him as a pass rusher more than what I've seen up to this point from Reed or Mercilus. He looked big on film, so I went to check him out and dude has monster potential...

6'4", 265 lbs, 4.5 forty, 39 inch vert, 36 reps on the bench...If we draft him and he comes in and works hard and develops that non stop motor and just goes he could be a real beast. Either way I like him a lot.

Definitely worth a third or whatever round he's being projected as...

Also, I'm starting to feel more and more like selecting Deandre Hopkins if he's there...I just like the way dude plays...He reminds me of Hines Ward...

I don't think he is going to be that number one receiver type player like Andre...But I think he can be a 1b type player that can immediately help this team and be a fixture here for years.

Ndevine7
04-05-2013, 06:27 PM
With their 5th round pick, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Quanterus Smith DE WKU

Honoring Earl 34
04-05-2013, 06:36 PM
Carolina panthers select Shawn Williams S Georgia .

Wolf6151
04-05-2013, 07:09 PM
Carolina panthers select Shawn Williams S Georgia .

You got lucky. I came very close to taking him at the top of the 5th.

Rock N Randy
04-05-2013, 07:15 PM
With their 5th round pick, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Quanterus Smith DE WKU

You son of a gun
He was the cowboys next pick

mussop
04-05-2013, 08:19 PM
With their 5th round pick, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Quanterus Smith DE WKU

I think he's already been picked. Nope guess I was wrong. I would of swore I seem his name a long time ago.

RT22
04-05-2013, 08:44 PM
With pick #149 the Rams select SS JJ Wilcox Georgia Southern.

Honoring Earl 34
04-05-2013, 09:24 PM
The Steelers select Montari Hughes Tennessee Martin .

Corrosion
04-05-2013, 09:34 PM
I don't know if this is the right thread for this but I just watched some film on Cornelius Washington, and he is a nice player. I think he has starter potential and I like what I see from him as a pass rusher more than what I've seen up to this point from Reed or Mercilus. He looked big on film, so I went to check him out and dude has monster potential...

6'4", 265 lbs, 4.5 forty, 39 inch vert, 36 reps on the bench...If we draft him and he comes in and works hard and develops that non stop motor and just goes he could be a real beast. Either way I like him a lot.

Definitely worth a third or whatever round he's being projected as...



Washington was one of my 3rd rounders for the Texans.

steelbtexan
04-06-2013, 12:51 AM
The Steelers select Montari Hughes Tennessee Martin .

There goes the Saints NT.

Rey
04-06-2013, 12:52 AM
Washington was one of my 3rd rounders for the Texans.

Yeah I know.

That's what made me go look at him and I likey...

mussop
04-06-2013, 01:34 AM
Washington was one of my 3rd rounders for the Texans.

What game film are you watching if this guy? I have watched the Nebraska and Alabama game where he supposedly played really well and he didn't stand out to me. Of course it was hard to key on him because they move him around a lot.

Dutchrudder
04-06-2013, 01:40 PM
Remainder of Round 5:

18 151 Dallas - RockNRandy -
19 152 New York Giants - htownfan32 -
20 153 Chicago - Dutchrudder -
21 154 Washington - SteelBTexan -
22 155 Minnesota - NCTexan -
23 156 Cincinnati - Corrosion -
24 157 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
25 158 Seattle - Blake -
26 159 Green Bay - Mussop -
27 160 Houston - Corrosion -
28 161 Denver - SenorStan -
29 162 Washington - SteelBTexan -
30 163 Atlanta - RT22 -
31 164 San Francisco - WolverineFan -
32 165 Baltimore - RockNRandy -
33 166 Miami - TexansSeminole -
34 167 Green Bay - Mussop -
35 168 Baltimore - RockNRandy -