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ASidd_1990
03-15-2013, 05:35 PM
Per ESPN

rolyat93
03-15-2013, 05:37 PM
Lol at "losing" Alan Ball.

Vance87
03-15-2013, 05:39 PM
Sheet. Here comes 6-10.

SW H-TOWN
03-15-2013, 05:40 PM
I think I saw Keo on the field more that Alan Ball so I'm not to upset over loosing him. Forsett will hurt more but we will probably sign a FA rookie who fits our scheme so we should be OK.

Dutchrudder
03-15-2013, 05:41 PM
Yay! Possibly more compensatory picks! :doot:

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 05:42 PM
doesnt hurt my feelings loosing ball. But Forsett? hes different i liked what he brought while tate was hurt. is there something going on that we dont know about?

Nawzer
03-15-2013, 05:44 PM
Losing Forsett is going to hurt more than you think if Tate doesn't return to form.

SCOTTexans
03-15-2013, 05:46 PM
Yay! Possibly more compensatory picks! :doot:

Haha starting to sound like you would lose the whole team if it gets you compenatory picks.

All seriousness any compensatory picks would be better then resigning them, even though i like forsett...

Dutchrudder
03-15-2013, 05:51 PM
Haha starting to sound like you would lose the whole team if it gets you compenatory picks.

All seriousness any compensatory picks would be better then resigning them, even though i like forsett...

Last year the comp pick AAV ranges were:

3 - $6.5/$7 million and greater
4 - $5 to $6.5/$7 million
5 - $4 to $5 million
6 - $2.5/2.75 to $4 million
7 - $1 to $2.5/2.75 million


Glover got 4.7 a AAV
Barwin got 6 AAV
Casey got 4.833 AAV
Ball got ?
Forsett got ?

If we don't sign anyone of note, we should get a pair of 5ths and a 4th in compensation. Probably a 7th for Ball or Forsett. I imagine they didn't sign for much. It's better than nothing :D

And before anyone asks, Kevin Walter doesn't qualify for comp picks because he was cut, so it doesn't matter what he signs for elsewhere.

eriadoc
03-15-2013, 05:57 PM
These are back of the roster players, so it's going to be hard for too many people to dial up any give a damn over this. But think about this - that's two more spots that they'll have to fill. Will they fill them with better players, hopefully for less money? There are only so many draft picks and depth matters. It's unfortunate that Alan Ball saw the field at all last year, but he did. Forsett gave some quality carries in his limited time. Now there's a need for depth.

But they signed Gardener and ... well, someone else. I forget his name.

CloakNNNdagger
03-15-2013, 05:59 PM
Losing Forsett is going to hurt more than you think if Tate doesn't return to form.

Turf toe can be just like herpes........I don't like this move.

eriadoc
03-15-2013, 06:03 PM
Turf toe can be just like herpes........I don't like this move.

Are you suggesting a foot fetish was involved? :D

Playoffs
03-15-2013, 06:05 PM
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Brandon420tx
03-15-2013, 06:23 PM
That's a bummer. I liked Forsett. So which free agent Runningback are we bringing in to be our 3rd RB? We went from Ward, to Forsett, now ????

SCOTTexans
03-15-2013, 06:39 PM
Ill take Cedric Benson for vet minimum Alex



:kitten:

IBleedTexans
03-15-2013, 06:40 PM
That's a bummer. I liked Forsett. So which free agent Runningback are we bringing in to be our 3rd RB? We went from Ward, to Forsett, now ????

I would say Grimes. He looked pretty good and I think with a little more coaching he could develop into a nice player .

76Texan
03-15-2013, 06:47 PM
I would say Grimes. He looked pretty good and I think with a little more coaching he could develop into a nice player .

He's still on the Jaguars roster I believe.

wolf123
03-15-2013, 06:59 PM
:fostering:Yay! Possibly more compensatory picks! :doot:

:fostering:

76Texan
03-15-2013, 07:10 PM
Ill take Cedric Benson for vet minimum Alex



:kitten:

I don't know if we can count on an old RB coming back from a lisfranc injury. :swatter:

Lucky
03-15-2013, 07:11 PM
If we don't sign anyone of note...
That would be disturbing. I realize they have 11 draft picks coming, but there needs to be some vets brought in to fill spots like WR, NT, ILB, and SS. Not big names guys necessarily. But not all vet minimum guys, either.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 07:20 PM
That would be disturbing. I realize they have 11 draft picks coming, but there needs to be some vets brought in to fill spots like WR, NT, ILB, and SS. Not big names guys necessarily. But not all vet minimum guys, either.

The Texans have a few million dollars to spend; I think they will sign somebody. ???

IBleedTexans
03-15-2013, 07:22 PM
He's still on the Jaguars roster I believe.

Did not know that , Thanx for clarity . Well the Texans scout team has found some pretty good gems as of late , idk some poetic dude . I got faith they'll another guy since they've been pretty good at it

Corrosion
03-15-2013, 07:28 PM
You can all overlook Allan Ball if you want .... But he and Braman were the best players on special teams last season , both consistently making plays. Without either of them , a piss poor ST unit is leaps and bounds worse.

And he did play pretty well when given the chance in coverage too .... made significant improvement from the preseason to the end of the year.


Replacable ? Yes .... But I'd liked to have seen him stay just for his ST play.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 07:47 PM
Did not know that , Thanx for clarity . Well the Texans scout team has found some pretty good gems as of late , idk some poetic dude . I got faith they'll another guy since they've been pretty good at it

We have Devin Meggett on the reserve/future list.

I actually like him a little more than Grimes; he's just smaller; however I think he also blocked quite well in college.

He looked about the same to me in PS, just that Grimes had a few more holes from what I saw.

We'll see what he can do next pre-season.
Hopefully, he gained some more muscles without losing agility.

A little bowling bowl might not be too bad.
There's some good prospects in the late round, too.
And we have a few comp picks.

Lucky
03-15-2013, 07:51 PM
We have Devin Meggett on the reserve/future list.
They also have 11 draft picks. It's save to say they take a RB on the 3rd day.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 07:55 PM
We have Devin Meggett on the reserve/future list.

I actually like him a little more than Grimes; he's just smaller; however I think he also blocked quite well in college.

He looked about the same to me in PS, just that Grimes had a few more holes from what I saw.

We'll see what he can do next pre-season.
Hopefully, he gained some more muscles without losing agility.

A little bowling bowl might not be too bad.
There's some good prospects in the late round, too.
And we have a few comp picks.
Never mind, Meggett is on the Colts reserve/future list.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 08:03 PM
They also have 11 draft picks. It's save to say they take a RB on the 3rd day.

Yeah, there are quite a few of them graded between round 4 and 7.
Big backs, fast back, take your pick.

Hervoyel
03-15-2013, 08:17 PM
That's a bummer. I liked Forsett. So which free agent Runningback are we bringing in to be our 3rd RB? We went from Ward, to Forsett, now ????

Peyton Hillis looked very good in this offense when he was in Denver.

Lucky
03-15-2013, 08:21 PM
Peyton Hillis looked very good in this offense when he was in Denver.
Wasn't he a FB, then? Not that this team couldn't use a FB.

ArlingtonTexan
03-15-2013, 08:34 PM
The Texans probably need to draft a rookie just in case there is a market for Tate next off-season, but finding another Forsett is pretty easy. The Texans signed him late enough last year and there will be more veteran rbs available.

Lucky
03-15-2013, 08:35 PM
Yeah, there are quite a few of them graded between round 4 and 7.
Big backs, fast back, take your pick.
I don't want to turn this into a draft thread. But I really like A&M's Christine Michael for the Texans. I know about his injuries and his combine mishap. I just think this guy has NFL RB written all over him.

Hervoyel
03-15-2013, 08:38 PM
Wasn't he a FB, then? Not that this team couldn't use a FB.

He was then. The Broncos had that year when everyone they put back there to carry the rock got hurt and Peyton Hillis broke out bigtime. He was like an 18 wheeler running out of this scheme (so much bigger than everyone else they had at the time) but the important thing was he seemed to see the holes and then tear into them. Really looked to be suited to the one-cut-and-go idea. Not sure if he could still be that guy but he's never had that kind of success anywhere else and it was in (basically) this offense.

Brisco_County
03-15-2013, 09:11 PM
Marcus Lattimore would be the best value in middle rounds. By the time he's 100%, Tate's contract would be up.

infantrycak
03-15-2013, 09:32 PM
He was then. The Broncos had that year when everyone they put back there to carry the rock got hurt and Peyton Hillis broke out bigtime. He was like an 18 wheeler running out of this scheme (so much bigger than everyone else they had at the time) but the important thing was he seemed to see the holes and then tear into them. Really looked to be suited to the one-cut-and-go idea. Not sure if he could still be that guy but he's never had that kind of success anywhere else and it was in (basically) this offense.

That was his rookie season. He could easily play FB for us and has good hands as well. Nice flexibility. Should not be an expensive player.

Insideop
03-15-2013, 11:38 PM
Marcus Lattimore would be the best value in middle rounds. By the time he's 100%, Tate's contract would be up.

Yeah, but what if Foster or Tate get hurt early in the season? They need somebody that's healthy now, not a year from now. Although, that could be a great value pick if you knew he would return to his pre-injury self and got him on the 3rd day of the Draft. When is he projected to start playing again?

Insideop
03-15-2013, 11:43 PM
You can all overlook Allan Ball if you want .... But he and Braman were the best players on special teams last season , both consistently making plays. Without either of them , a piss poor ST unit is leaps and bounds worse.

And he did play pretty well when given the chance in coverage too .... made significant improvement from the preseason to the end of the year.


Replacable ? Yes .... But I'd liked to have seen him stay just for his ST play.

^^^^ This!

I agree with this and remember Ball making a number of good plays on ST's.

Now we have more holes to fill! :kubepalm::wadepalm:

Brisco_County
03-16-2013, 02:20 AM
From the PFF FA Tracker:

Jacksonville Jaguars re-sign Cornerback Antwaun Molden

Don't they have Grimes too? They could pick up Winston for the left side and become the Bizarro Texans.

thunderkyss
03-16-2013, 07:56 AM
Losing Forsett is going to hurt more than you think if Tate doesn't return to form.

What's going to suck, is that I don't think we utilized Forsette as well as we should have. But I've felt that way since he flashed in Seattle. He's not an every down back, but he's got all the talent to be a Danny Woodhead kind of guy, a poor man's Reggie Bush.

When you think of a backfield with Arian, Casey, & Forsette you'd think you can create whatever kind of match up nightmare you want. At least I do. But Casey didn't get one carry, Forsett didn't get 5 balls thrown his way, & Arian was rarely used for anything other than a check down.

I'm all about being conservative & protecting the ball while throwing for 4000 yards and all, but I think we had enough weapons to do what we wanted, when we wanted, & move the chains.

TejasTom
03-16-2013, 09:08 AM
Atleast we don't play Detriot this year.

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Corrosion
03-16-2013, 09:33 AM
What's going to suck, is that I don't think we utilized Forsette as well as we should have. But I've felt that way since he flashed in Seattle. He's not an every down back, but he's got all the talent to be a Danny Woodhead kind of guy, a poor man's Reggie Bush.

When you think of a backfield with Arian, Casey, & Forsette you'd think you can create whatever kind of match up nightmare you want. At least I do. But Casey didn't get one carry, Forsett didn't get 5 balls thrown his way, & Arian was rarely used for anything other than a check down.

I'm all about being conservative & protecting the ball while throwing for 4000 yards and all, but I think we had enough weapons to do what we wanted, when we wanted, & move the chains.




Casey (http://www.nfl.com/player/jamescasey/71247/profile) had .... One carry in 2011 for 11 yards and one carry in 2012 for 6 yards.



I get your point ...

Brisco_County
03-16-2013, 10:53 AM
What's going to suck, is that I don't think we utilized Forsette as well as we should have. But I've felt that way since he flashed in Seattle. He's not an every down back, but he's got all the talent to be a Danny Woodhead kind of guy, a poor man's Reggie Bush.

That is true, and quite disappointing. He's a threat in open space, and we never really used him that way. The good news is that you can't expect Gabbert to suddenly bring out the best in Forsette either.

Thorn
03-16-2013, 11:13 AM
Until the Jaggies get a real QB they aren't going to be much of a threat anyway.

thunderkyss
03-16-2013, 11:50 AM
That is true, and quite disappointing. He's a threat in open space, and we never really used him that way. The good news is that you can't expect Gabbert to suddenly bring out the best in Forsette either.

I don't know. Forsett will probably making a pretty good safety blanket for on screens & checkdowns. We all know the little booger ain't going to stop running until the whistle blows.

76Texan
03-16-2013, 12:07 PM
BTW, there's a lot of speed in this draft class, it shouldn't be too difficult to find ST player. What's the odd of Nading making the team, anybody wants to venture? lOL!

thunderkyss
03-16-2013, 03:39 PM
What's the odd of Nading making the team, anybody wants to venture? lOL!

You laugh, but with each passing day, it becomes more & more likely he will be among the best 53 athletes the Texans can cobble together.

76Texan
03-16-2013, 05:24 PM
You laugh, but with each passing day, it becomes more & more likely he will be among the best 53 athletes the Texans can cobble together.

Before this year, I always predicted that he will somehow make the roster (may be not for the whole season). This year, I doubt he'll make it.
At best, he will be a phone call away, if we get decimated at LB.

I hope he doesn't buck the odd again.