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TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 12:35 PM
The 2nd player announcement would you rather it be Winston, Pollard. Or DJ Williams? Dream big or don't dream at all lol

EllisUnit
03-15-2013, 12:41 PM
The 2nd player announcement would you rather it be Winston, Pollard. Or DJ Williams? Dream big or don't dream at all lol

Winston

rolyat93
03-15-2013, 12:43 PM
Winston by a mile.

JCTexan
03-15-2013, 12:44 PM
Of the three you listed: Winston. But I'm thinking Casey Hampton.

TexCanada
03-15-2013, 12:46 PM
Isn't the 2nd player announcement complete speculation still?

The Alchemist
03-15-2013, 12:51 PM
What second plate announcement? Sorry I'm out of the loop

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 12:52 PM
It is speculation just something have fun with and pass the time with. I'm going outside the box and gonna say Brian urlacher maybe

ASidd_1990
03-15-2013, 12:53 PM
Speculation for past day is the Texans will announce another suprise FA acquistion along with the Ed Reed signing.

Some dude Bulls On Parade speculated we are gonna sign Reed, Pollard AND Winston by today.

Take it with a huge grain of salt.

Texanmike02
03-15-2013, 12:55 PM
I like pollard but why bring him in? What does he offer? Insurance?

Mike

TexCanada
03-15-2013, 12:56 PM
Speculation for past day is the Texans will announce another suprise FA acquistion along with the Ed Reed signing.

Some dude Bulls On Parade speculated we are gonna sign Reed, Pollard AND Winston by today.

Take it with a huge grain of salt.

Well now the surprise is ruined. Our FO will have to scrap their plans and get other players we aren't expecting now.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 12:57 PM
Pollard could be a cheap hire (maybe) but I doubt the Texans need him; that would be over the top.

Winston is too rich (probably); so maybe Casey Hampton.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 12:58 PM
I like pollard but why bring him in? What does he offer? Insurance?

Mike
Come to think of it; that's not a bad idea if Pollard signs for about $1.5M.

Nah, we still the money for other things.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 12:59 PM
But then again; if we're all in, we can always restructure a few contracts and go for broke, LOL!

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 12:59 PM
Pollard could be a cheap hire (maybe) but I doubt the Texans need him; that would be over the top.

Winston is too rich (probably); so maybe Casey Hampton.

Agree I really don't see it being pollard. Makes no sense really

76Texan
03-15-2013, 01:00 PM
We can always cut Schaub in 2014, and go with Yates, Keenum, and a rookie QB.

Heck, I would do it!

76Texan
03-15-2013, 01:01 PM
Agree I really don't see it being pollard. Makes no sense really

That's it.
Since it doesn't make sense; that's what we're gonna do, LOL!

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 01:02 PM
I want to see a heavy dose of Keenum In training camp and preseason. I don't like the way Yates played when he came in last season didn't look the same

EllisUnit
03-15-2013, 01:03 PM
Isn't the 2nd player announcement complete speculation still?

Thank BOP for this speculation, apparently we are going to sign reed, wonston and pollard. Yeah haha i know

steelbtexan
03-15-2013, 01:03 PM
Of the three you listed: Winston. But I'm thinking Casey Hampton.

I would be dancing in the streets if Reed/Hampton were signed on the same day. Bring Hampton home, he was one of the best 2 down run stoppers in the NFL last yr.

Hampton, healthy Cushing, Reed = major upgrade at each level of the defense.

76Texan
03-15-2013, 01:05 PM
I want to see a heavy dose of Keenum In training camp and preseason. I don't like the way Yates played when he came in last season didn't look the same

Me too; I'm rather high on Keenum.
Whether or not he's going to work out, it doesn't matter.
He doesn't cost but peanuts and a few bag of chips, haha!

76Texan
03-15-2013, 01:06 PM
I would be dancing in the streets if Reed/Hampton were signed on the same day. Bring Hampton home, he was one of the best 2 down run stoppers in the NFL last yr.

Hampton, healthy Cushing, Reed = major upgrade at each level of the defense.

Get your blue suede shoes ready, bubba, LOL!

dalemurphy
03-15-2013, 01:06 PM
I would be dancing in the streets if Reed/Hampton were signed on the same day. Bring Hampton home, he was one of the best 2 down run stoppers in the NFL last yr.

Hampton, healthy Cushing, Reed = major upgrade at each level of the defense.

Here we go (crazy amounts of optimism but has some logic)... Elvis Dumervil. They've cleared space and nickel and dimed three of their guys to make room for Dumervil and Reed. However, they have to wait until he's "officially" cut before they can say anything.

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 01:09 PM
I liked Keenum in college I think he has a legit chance, he has the tools and knowledge. It doesn't help I'm officially off the schaub wagon.

GP
03-15-2013, 01:12 PM
I'd rather have Pollard, but not by much.

Winston's upside is his run blocking...which let's face it, the circus on the right side of the line and the shenanigans at LG, too, would make Winston a good choice to calm down the right side of the line and maybe try a platoon of Newton/Brooks/Jones at LG and swing guard at RG if needed.

Pollard, though, he brings more of a 46 look to our defense whereby we go with heavy hitter in Pollard and let Manning and Reed play more coverage on WRs. Pollard matches up with those pesky TEs and slot receivers like Welker and Hernandez/Gronk who always abused our LBs last year. Pollard as a nickel DB would be right: He plays shallow and his job is to thump anything thrown within the first 10 yards of the LOS. He'd be nasty on a blitz, too.

My choice of Pollard is because I think Winston is into playing "poor me!" victim card, and this team is not ready to go back there with him. Pollard is just a worker. He wants to knock da piss out of people every play, and frankly that attitude needs to be there in our backfield so that Manning and Reed can ballhawk and make QBs pick a choice that doesn't really give the QB much hope. Especially since we face Andrew Luck twice a year now. Know what I mean? Gotta' think about what killed us the past two years: Inability to stop the pass in the divisional round each year.

EllisUnit
03-15-2013, 01:12 PM
I liked Keenum in college I think he has a legit chance, he has the tools and knowledge. It doesn't help I'm officially off the schaub wagon.

You and about every texan fan. So dont feel bad i was a big Schaub Supporter until last season.

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 01:13 PM
Here we go (crazy amounts of optimism but has some logic)... Elvis Dumervil. They've cleared space and nickel and dimed three of their guys to make room for Dumervil and Reed. However, they have to wait until he's "officially" cut before they can say anything.

Lamp you got crazy amount of optimism right he WS scheduled to make 12 mil next season !! But I did say dream big or not at all lol

powda
03-15-2013, 01:14 PM
Ed Reed

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Kevin Kolb

GP
03-15-2013, 01:16 PM
The chemistry between Reed and Pollard would be valuable too!

They have played and worked together on knowing how to adjust from play to play, etc. It'd be a it of a dream scenario to pull down two awesome DBs who know each other's tendencies and can trust one another right from the start.

But, the surprise player might be someone who is completely off our radar.

Hampton? I dunno.

Crabtree in a trade? I dunno, either.

Or it could be someone WAY off the radar, like Leach! Hey, it could happen. Might be why we let James Casey go.

Ooooo, what if it IS Leach? That'd be sick. But many analysts say that Leach wasn't really that much of a factor last season. That his days might be dwindling rapidly. Did he sign or is he a free agent? I don't even know if he is!

GP
03-15-2013, 01:18 PM
Ed Reed

and











Kevin Kolb

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sick/smileys-vomiting.gif

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 01:18 PM
You and about every texan fan. So dont feel bad i was a big Schaub Supporter until last season.

Yea I feel the same way! Was with him until last season. He proved to me at least he's not a big lights qb. I feel a Ryan Fitzpatrick coming on

ASidd_1990
03-15-2013, 01:23 PM
Via CSN AJ also has been recruiting Chad Johnson to come to the Texans.

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 01:27 PM
Via CSN AJ also has been recruiting Chad Johnson to come to the Texans.

Mmmm don't know if I get that one. He's the biggest diva the Texans would have signed to this point. But if he comes and and plays I think its a positive signing. They say he couldn't learn the patriots playbook. Wondering if he would have that same problem here?

dalemurphy
03-15-2013, 01:31 PM
The chemistry between Reed and Pollard would be valuable too!

They have played and worked together on knowing how to adjust from play to play, etc. It'd be a it of a dream scenario to pull down two awesome DBs who know each other's tendencies and can trust one another right from the start.

Yeah, but what about the chemistry between Pollard and Kareem Jackson. They also have worked together. I think I'd rather sit in a room with a mixture of bleach and ammonia, rather than watch those two work together in the Texans' secondary.

EllisUnit
03-15-2013, 01:32 PM
Mmmm don't know if I get that one. He's the biggest diva the Texans would have signed to this point. But if he comes and and plays I think its a positive signing. They say he couldn't learn the patriots playbook. Wondering if he would have that same problem here?

It dont matter we still dont have a QB to throw them the ball :kitten:

TexanBacker93
03-15-2013, 01:37 PM
Ok...so...I heard this from a guy who heard it from someone who does the lawn for someone who lives next to the guy who does Rick Smith's laundry.



We're signing Reed, Woodson, Harrison, and Urlacher.

It would give us the 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009, and 2012 Defensive players of the year.

It's a done deal, but they're announcing it during the concert tonight at the rodeo. They wanted to do it last night, but Pitbull didn't want to share the spotlight.

TexanBacker93
03-15-2013, 01:39 PM
Mmmm don't know if I get that one. He's the biggest diva the Texans would have signed to this point. But if he comes and and plays I think its a positive signing. They say he couldn't learn the patriots playbook. Wondering if he would have that same problem here?

Our playbook is easy. Well, for a receiver. You just have to know who to block.

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 01:40 PM
It dont matter we still dont have a QB to throw them the ball :kitten:

Agree completely what's the point of getting more playmakes at that position if we have the same noodle armed choke artist Golmer Pyle qb? It shows McNair still thinks ol schaub can somehow get it done

bckey
03-15-2013, 01:43 PM
Antoine Winfield

djohn2oo8
03-15-2013, 01:52 PM
lol @ second player announcement without the first one.

hookinreds
03-15-2013, 01:53 PM
Get your blue suede shoes ready, bubba, LOL!

Elvis...the 2nd Dr. Doom????

GP
03-15-2013, 02:24 PM
Yea I feel the same way! Was with him until last season. He proved to me at least he's not a big lights qb. I feel a Ryan Fitzpatrick coming on

I'd be fine with that. He's a better QB than what the Bills made him into, IMO.

He's known for being very cerebral, which Kubiak wants in his "Yes Sir, No Risky Moves, Sir!" QBs. Just need to identify the pre-snap look, then make the high percentage throw. That's it. And Schaub is on the ropes here.

Via CSN AJ also has been recruiting Chad Johnson to come to the Texans.

OK, well...look, that's just been AJ being AJ and has no implication on anything at all. There's zero chance of that happening, not even if CJ was available for $1.99 or $2.15 max. And I'm not talking millions. Not even thousands.

Yeah, but what about the chemistry between Pollard and Kareem Jackson. They also have worked together. I think I'd rather sit in a room with a mixture of bleach and ammonia, rather than watch those two work together in the Texans' secondary.

Whuh? Come on now, you jest...surely you jest!

That was 2010 under David Gibbs. Everybody looked like hammered dog ****, Dale. Everybody. KJ is miles beyond his 2010 self. And so is Pollard.

The only thing I dislike about Pollard is knack for getting the occasional 15-yarder for going too strong on the hits. But that's it. The guy is fine, so is Reed, and them and KJ would all three be fine together.

It'd be a hellacious secondary, maybe the best ever in Houston.

TexanCR
03-15-2013, 02:40 PM
You and about every texan fan. So dont feel bad i was a big Schaub Supporter until last season.

Dont count me in those " every texan fan" I still think Schaub can get it done if you give him somebody else to pass the ball beside AJ and OD! how do you expect a QB to succeed if the coach always tells him to throw the ball to the people that everybody knows will be thrown to? Give him a legit WR2 another good catching TE or a good slot WR and give him some freedom Kubiak please! You suck at play calling and you are dragging the whole offense with you, even worst, you are throwing Schaub under the bus so most fans will be against him.

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 02:56 PM
back on the first player announced lol i think we just got used big time. on to the next one before its to late. i really dont want to head into next season with a rookie safety or even worse keo :faildetector:

Dutchrudder
03-15-2013, 03:02 PM
HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!

@HoustonTexans
The Texans have signed restricted free agent T Andrew Gardner


lol

TexanCR
03-15-2013, 03:06 PM
HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!

@HoustonTexans
The Texans have signed restricted free agent T Andrew Gardner


lol

Championship!!!:trophy:

infantrycak
03-15-2013, 03:18 PM
i think we just got used big time.

So you think Reed never had any intention of considering playing for the Texans? I guess you think AJ was complicit as well.

Damn people, it isn't over yet and even if it never happens it doesn't mean Reed "used" the Texans. The Texans would be stupid to not have a limit on what they are willing to pay and Reed would be stupid not to check on what other teams are willing to pay.

mussop
03-15-2013, 05:04 PM
So you think Reed never had any intention of considering playing for the Texans? I guess you think AJ was complicit as well.

Damn people, it isn't over yet and even if it never happens it doesn't mean Reed "used" the Texans. The Texans would be stupid to not have a limit on what they are willing to pay and Reed would be stupid not to check on what other teams are willing to pay.

i say screw Reed lets use that money on Dumerville.

TexansCountry
03-15-2013, 05:10 PM
i say screw Reed lets use that money on Dumerville.

i like that idea. but i doubt it would happen

infantrycak
03-15-2013, 05:12 PM
i say screw Reed lets use that money on Dumerville.

I would be more than happy with that. Frankly I think it would be a better signing.

I am just tired of this crap that Reed is playing the Texans like the Texans are just too stupid to realize these players we don't sign have no intention of signing with us. I think it is foolish fan commentary and nothing more.

PS - for the Ryan Fitzpatrick people, pull your Schaub hating heads out of your butts. Fitzpatrick's best results don't come close to Schaub's worst. Fitz is about to find a clipboard to hold.

Texn4life
03-15-2013, 05:20 PM
Casey Hampton apparently is an option. He's told a few friends he wants to end his career in Texas.

Doppelganger
03-15-2013, 06:36 PM
Pollard could be a cheap hire (maybe) but I doubt the Texans need him; that would be over the top.

Winston is too rich (probably); so maybe Casey Hampton.

Could he play ilb next to Cush?

Lucky
03-15-2013, 06:49 PM
PS - for the Ryan Fitzpatrick people, pull your Schaub hating heads out of your butts. Fitzpatrick's best results don't come close to Schaub's worst. Fitz is about to find a clipboard to hold.
They can't be serious. Chalk it up to the green beer talking.

GP
03-15-2013, 11:05 PM
I bet Gardner was bummed when he found out that Rick wasn't bringing him on stage after Ed Reed, since Ed wound up Car Washing his way back to the east coast today.

Ruined his big day.

TexanBacker93
03-16-2013, 09:32 AM
I would be more than happy with that. Frankly I think it would be a better signing.

I am just tired of this crap that Reed is playing the Texans like the Texans are just too stupid to realize these players we don't sign have no intention of signing with us. I think it is foolish fan commentary and nothing more.


I think since we've been burned a couple of times it's led people to have that jumpy feeling. Those were all guys (Pace, Bodden, Nnamdi maybe) that would have been coming to a bad team. This is a good team that has a lot of pieces in place for a SB run. Players aren't going to use us to get more money. They might sign elsewhere, but if Reed was in town it was because he is interested. He might still sign.

steelbtexan
03-16-2013, 09:38 AM
Antoine Winfield

If Reed doesn't sign I could see Winfield or Woodson playing S for the Texans next season.

76Texan
03-16-2013, 11:09 AM
If Reed doesn't sign I could see Winfield or Woodson playing S for the Texans next season.

Possible!

GP
03-16-2013, 11:38 AM
I think since we've been burned a couple of times it's led people to have that jumpy feeling. Those were all guys (Pace, Bodden, Nnamdi maybe) that would have been coming to a bad team. This is a good team that has a lot of pieces in place for a SB run. Players aren't going to use us to get more money. They might sign elsewhere, but if Reed was in town it was because he is interested. He might still sign.

There's also a chance that having Ed Reed here for this long MIGHT make other players like Winfield or Woodson capitalize upon Reed's inaction by jumping into the thick of things and basically getting a friendlier deal done ASAP with the Texans.

This stuff cuts both ways. Ed and his advisors can end up being the ones who inadvertently get us our next combo of FA's like what happened with Aso and how we got J-Jo and Manning wrapped up all at once.....leaving the "premiere" player out of the running here.

I think people have this idea that our FO are completely clueless. They might not be FO Of The Decade but look, they're being cautious and playing the odds as straight as they can:

1. Winston obviously didn't wow the Chiefs last season. Released and still unsigned.

2. Ryan. Great player, but not worth the cap hit here. Traded for picks, which seems like the first time the Texans actually received picks rather than giving them away.

3. Dreessen too expensive, nothing we could have done there. Brisiel too costly, he's been released from his new team one year after leaving here for a bigger payday. Jason Allen? Same situation as Brisiel.

4. This year, we didn't overpay Barwin and he's going to meet the same fate with the Eaglws as Brisiel did with the Raiders...in a year or two, tops. He's simply a workout warrior like Carr, Babin, Okoye, etc. Great in camp, absent in reg season.

5. Casey. Whoa! Dude got a crazy offer from the Eagles. Whether he was miscast here or under-used here, not the point. He was gone no matter what.

6. Quin. This is the riskiest move, but coupled with the exits of Barwin and Casey...with a run of player contract restructures looming (to get more cap space) we're trying to land what our FO and coaches think could be an upgrade over Quin for nearly what Quin signed for in Detroit.

I won't say this FO is flawless. But guys and gals, seriously....this is not an incompetent FO.

Wait until two years from now when these "cap rich" teams are eating all these contracts they're signing now. The FA pool and playing field, due to new CBA from 2011, will make all teams respect the cap, spend their cap, and force shrewd dealings. It's what was wanted: No more crazy contracts that screw up teams and screw over fans AND make it hard for great players to land on better teams.

There is a crazy amount of FA talent still left.

ObsiWan
03-16-2013, 12:09 PM
There's also a chance that having Ed Reed here for this long MIGHT make other players like Winfield or Woodson capitalize upon Reed's inaction by jumping into the thick of things and basically getting a friendlier deal done ASAP with the Texans.

This stuff cuts both ways. Ed and his advisors can end up being the ones who inadvertently get us our next combo of FA's like what happened with Aso and how we got J-Jo and Manning wrapped up all at once.....leaving the "premiere" player out of the running here.

I think people have this idea that our FO are completely clueless. They might not be FO Of The Decade but look, they're being cautious and playing the odds as straight as they can:

1. Winston obviously didn't wow the Chiefs last season. Released and still unsigned.

2. Ryan. Great player, but not worth the cap hit here. Traded for picks, which seems like the first time the Texans actually received picks rather than giving them away.

3. Dreessen too expensive, nothing we could have done there. Brisiel too costly, he's been released from his new team one year after leaving here for a bigger payday. Jason Allen? Same situation as Brisiel.

4. This year, we didn't overpay Barwin and he's going to meet the same fate with the Eaglws as Brisiel did with the Raiders...in a year or two, tops. He's simply a workout warrior like Carr, Babin, Okoye, etc. Great in camp, absent in reg season.

5. Casey. Whoa! Dude got a crazy offer from the Eagles. Whether he was miscast here or under-used here, not the point. He was gone no matter what.

6. Quin. This is the riskiest move, but coupled with the exits of Barwin and Casey...with a run of player contract restructures looming (to get more cap space) we're trying to land what our FO and coaches think could be an upgrade over Quin for nearly what Quin signed for in Detroit.

I won't say this FO is flawless. But guys and gals, seriously....this is not an incompetent FO.

Wait until two years from now when these "cap rich" teams are eating all these contracts they're signing now. The FA pool and playing field, due to new CBA from 2011, will make all teams respect the cap, spend their cap, and force shrewd dealings. It's what was wanted: No more crazy contracts that screw up teams and screw over fans AND make it hard for great players to land on better teams.

There is a crazy amount of FA talent still left.

MSR
Agree with your assessment and hope like hell that last paragraph plays out that way. The first step needs to be for GMs to back off on giving one guy - the QB - 10-20% of their overall salary cap.

greekdbag
03-18-2013, 04:32 AM
There's also a chance that having Ed Reed here for this long MIGHT make other players like Winfield or Woodson capitalize upon Reed's inaction by jumping into the thick of things and basically getting a friendlier deal done ASAP with the Texans.

This stuff cuts both ways. Ed and his advisors can end up being the ones who inadvertently get us our next combo of FA's like what happened with Aso and how we got J-Jo and Manning wrapped up all at once.....leaving the "premiere" player out of the running here.

I think people have this idea that our FO are completely clueless. They might not be FO Of The Decade but look, they're being cautious and playing the odds as straight as they can:

1. Winston obviously didn't wow the Chiefs last season. Released and still unsigned.

2. Ryan. Great player, but not worth the cap hit here. Traded for picks, which seems like the first time the Texans actually received picks rather than giving them away.

3. Dreessen too expensive, nothing we could have done there. Brisiel too costly, he's been released from his new team one year after leaving here for a bigger payday. Jason Allen? Same situation as Brisiel.

4. This year, we didn't overpay Barwin and he's going to meet the same fate with the Eaglws as Brisiel did with the Raiders...in a year or two, tops. He's simply a workout warrior like Carr, Babin, Okoye, etc. Great in camp, absent in reg season.

5. Casey. Whoa! Dude got a crazy offer from the Eagles. Whether he was miscast here or under-used here, not the point. He was gone no matter what.

6. Quin. This is the riskiest move, but coupled with the exits of Barwin and Casey...with a run of player contract restructures looming (to get more cap space) we're trying to land what our FO and coaches think could be an upgrade over Quin for nearly what Quin signed for in Detroit.

I won't say this FO is flawless. But guys and gals, seriously....this is not an incompetent FO.

Wait until two years from now when these "cap rich" teams are eating all these contracts they're signing now. The FA pool and playing field, due to new CBA from 2011, will make all teams respect the cap, spend their cap, and force shrewd dealings. It's what was wanted: No more crazy contracts that screw up teams and screw over fans AND make it hard for great players to land on better teams.

There is a crazy amount of FA talent still left.

Brisiel restructured I think but I agree with everything you wrote here.