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dalemurphy
03-12-2013, 10:20 PM
Question:

So, the Texans will not get rewarded compensation if a team signs Walter because he was waived, unlike Casey who played out his contract.

What about the team that signs Walter? In other words, if a team signs a free agent that was waived, does that signing count against them when the compensatory picks are awarded.

Here's an example:
Let's say the Texans lose Quin and Casey in free agency to deals that would net 5th round picks next year

However, they have one significant signing: Michael Huff to a 4 year and $20 million deal. Huff was cut so the Raiders get no compensation. However, would the Texans lose one of the two 5th rounders they would get from the loss of Quin and Casey due to their signing of Huff... or, do the Texans still receive both picks?

Lucky
03-12-2013, 10:22 PM
Q
What about the team that signs Walter? In other words, if a team signs a free agent that was waived, does that signing count against them when the compensatory picks are awarded.
No, Walter is a street free agent and doesn't count in the compensatory pick equation. Neither will Huff. Nor did Peyton.

dalemurphy
03-12-2013, 10:39 PM
No, Walter is a street free agent and doesn't count in the compensatory pick equation. Neither will Huff. Nor did Peyton.

neither side of the equation? are you sure? So, if Dumervil gets cut tomorrow and we sign him to a monster deal, he won't adversely affect our allocation of compensatory picks for 2014?

Lucky
03-12-2013, 10:45 PM
neither side of the equation? are you sure? So, if Dumervil gets cut tomorrow and we sign him to a monster deal, he won't adversely affect our allocation of compensatory picks for 2014?
Yes, I'm sure and Dumervil would not count in the 2014 equation.

badboy
03-12-2013, 11:10 PM
I agree with Lucky as comp picks are assigned only based on free agents. Just think, why would a team be compensated for voluntarily cutting a player?

dalemurphy
03-12-2013, 11:23 PM
I agree with Lucky as comp picks are assigned only based on free agents. Just think, why would a team be compensated for voluntarily cutting a player?

That's not the question. The question is: does the team who signed the cut player lose a potential compensatory pick (as if the player was a normal free agent).

Dutchrudder
03-12-2013, 11:40 PM
That's not the question. The question is: does the team who signed the cut player lose a potential compensatory pick (as if the player was a normal free agent).

I believe the answer is no, but I'm on my phone and can't find a source to back it up.

TexanBacker93
03-13-2013, 12:33 AM
I believe the answer is no, but I'm on my phone and can't find a source to back it up.

I'm almost certain you are correct. Those players don't have an effect on the equation for either team.

ArlingtonTexan
03-13-2013, 01:49 PM
1. Players that are cut or not tendered as RFAs and ERFAs are not counted.

2. Players earning low minimum salaries do not count.

3. Each player signed cancels out one player lost.

4. The round of the pick awarded is primarily determined by the annual value of the contract signed. Signed players cancel out lost players with equal contracts, then lower contracts, before canceling out higher contracts.

It should be noted that although the NFL makes public the basic rules above, even the NFL teams do not know the exact picks that they will be awarded. They have to make assumption based upon past history, just as I have done.

http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/01/27/2013-nfl-compensatory-pick-projections/