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HoustonFrog
03-06-2013, 11:15 AM
And NO, I don't want him on any team I cheer for


http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/256944/football-headlines?r=1

According to FOX29's Howard Eskin, the Eagles will eventually release CB Nnamdi Asomugha.

Another piece of the Eagles' "Dream Team" bites the dust. Asomugha graded out as one of the league's worst corners last season and is owed $15 million -- including $4 million guaranteed -- in 2013. Facing an ultimatum to slash his salary or move on, the two-time All-Pro has apparently chosen the latter. Asomugha will instantly become one of the biggest names available in free agency, but suitors expecting him to regain his Raider form will be disappointed. He'll be 32 in July, showed atrocious ball skills as an Eagle and appeared to lack long speed. The Eagles won't make the Asomugha cut on Wednesday, but multiple reports have it coming soon.

GP
03-06-2013, 11:31 AM
Wow. How far you can fall in such short time.

It was two years ago that this guy was the primary target for the Texans.

Flash backward to the free agency period of 2011...the Texans pay royally for the acquisition of Asomugha, they have a shut-down corner and are instantly upgraded to AFC South favorites. The Texans select JJ Watt, but the play of Asomugha fails to live up to the potential envisioned by coaches and fans.

Would the Texans finish as AFC South champs in 2011? Would they have made the playoffs? What would we finish in 2012 with Asomugha and KJ as our two corners and without Danieal Manning at Safety since we had paid J-Jo and Manning's combined salaries for only one player in Asomugha?

The ramifications of decisions like this are staggering when you think about it. Rick Smith fans will say "He has earned his money as GM by grabbing J-Jo and Manning rather than only Asomugha," and the Rick Smith opponents will say "It was only because Asomugha priced himself out of our comfort zone, it was a gift that Asomugha was too expensive, rather than Smith's GM skills."

32 is 32. I don't think he can recover what he had with the Raiders. Time and some doubts about his abilities will be too much for him to overcome. I'd like to get people's opinions on moving him to a Safety position. He has the talent and the natural skill level to succeed, but maybe it's just that he can't perform as a CB any longer? Give him the back end of the field to roam and patrol, and maybe he has another 3 to 5 years left in him???

eriadoc
03-06-2013, 11:32 AM
I read somewhere that opposing QBs had a rating of 120.6 this season when targeting him.

GP
03-06-2013, 11:38 AM
I read somewhere that opposing QBs had a rating of 120.6 this season when targeting him.

He was in a bad way in Philly.

Reports/rumors state that he would go out to his car and eat his food in his car rather than be around the team. If true, that tells us that he was miserable and his play on the field was a reflection of that unhappiness. IMO.

I don't know why, and frankly it doesn't matter, but the truth is that he was very good prior to going to Philly...and with how it fell apart for him, who knows if he's completely broken or just in a funk from a mindset perspective.

Another thing, which I know you know, is that he was not in a good defensive scheme for his purported strong-suit in terms of his favored style of coverage. I think that Philly team is really messed up, much like the Jets. There's a dysfunction there, and I don't know that Chip Kelly can turn that ship, honestly.

Vinny
03-06-2013, 11:47 AM
He just lost a step and at his size he couldn't afford to. I watch him play and he just can't run like he used to (he's 31 years old). I think the Raiders bailed on him at the right time. It's the one right thing they have done in a long time. That and kill Al Davis with a drone strike.

Dutchrudder
03-06-2013, 11:56 AM
It will be interesting to see what he gets in free agency. I can see some crappy team needing a CB might overpay him in hopes that he returns to form from a few years ago. Jags, Bucs, Browns, Lions, etc all could go after him. After the way he played last year, I think anything more than 2 years 10 million would be overpaying.

GP
03-06-2013, 12:01 PM
Could a team do a 1-year deal rather than a 2-year deal?

With a 1-year deal, you get a rental and can dump him with no 2nd year cap ramifications, right?

I don't see him nor his agent agreeing to that sort of deal, frankly, but wondering if it would even be viable as an option for a team who wants to kick the tires first. I really think Houston should have gone this route with Peyton Manning, btw.

Dutchrudder
03-06-2013, 12:07 PM
Could a team do a 1-year deal rather than a 2-year deal?
Yes, it's just not that common for a player to get one for more than minimum. You could sign someone to a 10 year deal if you wanted to, there's really no limit.

With a 1-year deal, you get a rental and can dump him with no 2nd year cap ramifications, right?

Well, I would think a team would do a 2 year deal with the first having some guaranteed money, say 3 million, and the second year having 6 million non-guaranteed. Include a 1 million signing bonus, spread over the 2 years, and the cost to cut him is minimal. It's a "prove it" type contract that's low risk for the team, but provides incentive for the player. If he works out well, great the team keeps him for the next year, if not, no big deal.

Barwin might wind up with something like this, and Jacoby had one similar before he was cut.

I don't see him nor his agent agreeing to that sort of deal, frankly, but wondering if it would even be viable as an option for a team who wants to kick the tires first. I really think Houston should have gone this route with Peyton Manning, btw.

Peyton is a good example. The Broncos took an 18 million dollar gamble last year on Peyton. He signed a 5 year deal which was voidable after the first year if he didn't pass the physical. That means they were insured against injury of the neck, or really any other part of his body. It was a smart move, but the size of the deal made it worth it for Peyton. Now he's getting 20 million this year and next, which is now guaranteed because he passed that physical.

El Tejano
03-06-2013, 12:34 PM
Wow. How far you can fall in such short time.

It was two years ago that this guy was the primary target for the Texans.



It was also 2 years ago that everyone was looking at this team and thinking how well they bolstered their team for a Super Bowl run and how they managed the cap and FA etc.... The Texans opted for building through the draft and not paying too much for one player, got J-Jo and Manning,

Eagles 2011 FA
Dominque Rogers-Cromartie - still playing with team and did well

Namdi Asomugah - lost a step and didn't live up to his contract, currently being released.

Jason Babin - Don't know what happened there but now he's playing in Jville.

Kullen Jenkins - Didn't hear much out of him, believe he's still with the team

Vince Young - currently trying to get on a team after being released and not making the Buffalo Bills 3rd string QB spot.

Evan Mathis - OL so don't know how he's done but Philly QBs got sacked alot.

Ronnie Brown - Don't even know anymore.


Houston Texans 2011 FA

J-Jo - Had a good season in 2011, 2012 not so good but still better than Asomugah

Manning- One of the team leaders, had a very productive 2 years in Houston so far.

Tim Dobbins - quality depth over the last two years and played at a very good level.

Lawrence Vickers - that didn't work, but at the time we had Leach.

P Brad Maynard - eh...he's a punter.

Hardly a huge splash but got more for our money than Philly did.

76Texan
03-06-2013, 03:44 PM
Well, I ain't crazy after all.

El Tejano
03-06-2013, 03:46 PM
Well, I ain't crazy after all.

Nope and I will give you your props 76. You said you would spend the money on a younger JJo than an aging Aso any day and you were right.

greekdbag
03-06-2013, 11:32 PM
It was also 2 years ago that everyone was looking at this team and thinking how well they bolstered their team for a Super Bowl run and how they managed the cap and FA etc.... The Texans opted for building through the draft and not paying too much for one player, got J-Jo and Manning,

Eagles 2011 FA
Dominque Rogers-Cromartie - still playing with team and did well

Namdi Asomugah - lost a step and didn't live up to his contract, currently being released.

Jason Babin - Don't know what happened there but now he's playing in Jville.

Kullen Jenkins - Didn't hear much out of him, believe he's still with the team

Vince Young - currently trying to get on a team after being released and not making the Buffalo Bills 3rd string QB spot.

Evan Mathis - OL so don't know how he's done but Philly QBs got sacked alot.

Ronnie Brown - Don't even know anymore.


Houston Texans 2011 FA

J-Jo - Had a good season in 2011, 2012 not so good but still better than Asomugah

Manning- One of the team leaders, had a very productive 2 years in Houston so far.

Tim Dobbins - quality depth over the last two years and played at a very good level.

Lawrence Vickers - that didn't work, but at the time we had Leach.

P Brad Maynard - eh...he's a punter.

Hardly a huge splash but got more for our money than Philly did.

They traded for DRC and he's been a disappointment for them. Cullen Jenkins was cut not too long ago as well. That was a terrible offseason for them.

Trap_Star
03-06-2013, 11:59 PM
Eagles 2011 FA
Dominque Rogers-Cromartie - still playing with team and did well

Namdi Asomugah - lost a step and didn't live up to his contract, currently being released.

Jason Babin - Don't know what happened there but now he's playing in Jville.

Kullen Jenkins - Didn't hear much out of him, believe he's still with the team

Vince Young - currently trying to get on a team after being released and not making the Buffalo Bills 3rd string QB spot.

Evan Mathis - OL so don't know how he's done but Philly QBs got sacked alot.

Ronnie Brown - Don't even know anymore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgX4ZXYW66M

TexanBacker93
03-12-2013, 03:53 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150032/article/nnamdi-asomugha-released-by-philadelphia-eagles

How far they've fallen.

HOU-TEX
03-12-2013, 03:55 PM
There's a FA Tracker thread sticky that should be used for all FA posts

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97644

Playoffs
03-12-2013, 04:05 PM
Put him in at RCB & let him use the sideline and I bet he looks pretty good again.

ASidd_1990
03-12-2013, 04:05 PM
Texans should go after him.

LOL just kidding.....we good with Kareem and J-Joe.

Hervoyel
03-12-2013, 04:48 PM
Texans should go after him.

LOL just kidding.....we good with Kareem and J-Joe.


Why kidding? I bet he'd make a heck of a Nickel and would probably sign for the league minimum with Houston just to get a ring next year.

:kitten:

Vinny
03-12-2013, 04:51 PM
Why kidding? I bet he'd make a heck of a Nickel and would probably sign for the league minimum with Houston just to get a ring next year.

:kitten:
he is a man cover corner. He stunk when he was asked to play off and looking a the qb. All we do is man cover. Mostly at least. I'm not saying we can afford him. That's another issue alltogether.

otisbean
03-12-2013, 04:54 PM
he is a man cover corner. He stunk when he was asked to play off and looking a the qb. All we do is man cover. Mostly at least. I'm not saying we can afford him. That's another issue alltogether.

You are spot on! He was completely misused in Philly. Why would you sign a guy for all that coin then not play to his strengths. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Maybe KJax can play some FS

Hervoyel
03-12-2013, 05:01 PM
he is a man cover corner. He stunk when he was asked to play off and looking a the qb. All we do is man cover. Mostly at least. I'm not saying we can afford him. That's another issue alltogether.


I was joking. Thought I'd add some wildly delusional thinking to the mix. Of course you're right.

Wolf
04-04-2013, 04:53 PM
I heard he went to san fran

The Pencil Neck
04-04-2013, 05:15 PM
I heard he went to san fran

Yes. IIRC, $3 mill, 1 year.

He's got to prove himself and clean his tarnished image after getting debacled with the Eagles.