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htownfan32
02-18-2013, 12:22 PM
I'm going to use our position in the draft plus a third round compensatory for Mario and a 6th for Dreesen. I don't know how that's going to work out in actuality but whatever. Here's for the purpose of just throwing discussion material out there. Hit me with all the feedback and comments you got, TT.
Will post rounds 1-3 right now... if you come in and see only one or two picks, I'm working on it :)


1st Round: Keenan Allen WR 6'3 210 Cal
http://calibermag.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Jalil+Brown+Keenan+Allen+Colorado+v+California+c-0xgw9Q9dUl1.jpeg

Yes, I understand that Keenan Allen should* be gone by the time we pick. The scenario I see is that a knee injury will knock him down and post-combine, guys like Cordarelle Patterson, Terrance Williams et. al will move up the boards because of their size/speed combo. I'm going with that Allen is fast but not elite fast. However, he has excellent timing, athleticism combined with 6'3 210 - sounds like a possible heir to Andre to me.


2nd Round: Kyle Long OL 6'6 304 Oregon
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/1228/com_121228_NCF_Vblog_Miller_KyleLong_121228/com_121228_NCF_Vblog_Miller_KyleLong_121228.jpg

I'm gambling here. Kyle Long only has 4 career starts at the FCS level and that is troubling. However, I don't see this pick not panning out. Kyle Long is athletic and has all the pedigree to be a great o-lineman in the NFL with good coaching. He'll have great teammates to look up to (Duane Brown) and can develop into a quality starter given a season or two. Would also be ironic to see him line up against his brother Chris.

3rd Round: Kiko Alonso, ILB, 6'3 242 Oregon
http://binaryapi.ap.org/a414ef2c119846ebb297bdee23dc46a3/512x.jpg

Yeah, I'm drafting lots of Ducks. This guy is versatile. He could even play outside, that's how athletic he is. At the third round you're looking at guys who could develop into quality starters, and I think Alonso could be a total steal. He and Cushing would be a terror together. Alonso plays to the whistle and with an aggression that would compliment Cushing's perfectly.

3rd Round: DJ Swearinger, FS, 5'11 210 South Carolina
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/001/985/045/hi-res-155987431_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75

Swearinger is versatile and a leader on his S Car defense. He's played some CB and is proficient in coverage as well as being a hitter. He's not tall but he makes up for it in the aggression of his play. He needs to work on not holding, however, and could be a little more fluid.

infantrycak
02-18-2013, 12:28 PM
One is that we trade our Mario and Dreesen compensatories and our first rounder and move up.

You cannot trade compensatory picks.

htownfan32
02-18-2013, 12:40 PM
You cannot trade compensatory picks.

Thank you for pointing that out, forgot. Still going with second scenario where knee injury plus other wideouts' combine performances push him down.

Insideop
02-18-2013, 12:42 PM
I'm going to use our position in the draft plus a third round compensatory for Mario and a 6th for Dreesen. I don't know how that's going to work out in actuality but whatever. Here's for the purpose of just throwing discussion material out there. Hit me with all the feedback and comments you got, TT.
Will post rounds 1-3 right now... if you come in and see only one or two picks, I'm working on it :)


1st Round: Keenan Allen WR 6'3 210 Cal
http://calibermag.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Jalil+Brown+Keenan+Allen+Colorado+v+California+c-0xgw9Q9dUl1.jpeg

Yes, I understand that Keenan Allen should* be gone by the time we pick. However, I forsee two scenarios. One is that we trade our Mario and Dreesen compensatories and our first rounder and move up. The other is that a knee injury will knock him down and post-combine, guys like Cordarelle Patterson, Terrance Williams et. al will move up the boards because of their size/speed combo. I'm going with scenario two here. Allen is fast but not elite fast. However, he has excellent timing, athleticism combined with 6'3 210 - sounds like a possible heir to Andre to me.

You would have to use the their normal 3rd and 6th rounder if you want to trade up. As was stated previously by infantrycak, you can't trade compensatory picks. Personally, I hope he falls to us without having to trade up, but if they feel he's going to be gone by the time they pick, and they only have to trade up a few spots, I'd say go for it! He may be the only WR in this draft I'd do that for. Don't want to waste picks.

Insideop
02-18-2013, 03:21 PM
3rd Round: Kiko Alonso, ILB, 6'3 242 Oregon


Yeah, I'm drafting lots of Ducks. This guy is versatile. He could even play outside, that's how athletic he is. At the third round you're looking at guys who could develop into quality starters, and I think Alonso could be a total steal. He and Cushing would be a terror together. Alonso plays to the whistle and with an aggression that would compliment Cushing's perfectly.

I like Alonso too and think he would upgrade the ILB spot a lot. But, the big question is, would the Texans take him with his prior arrest record (2 yrs ago)? Here's something I found on the NFL.com Combine site:

Alonso made his own difficulties early in his career at the University of Oregon. He was suspended for the entire 2010 season after a DUI arrest (while also rehabbing a torn right ACL suffered in the spring), then was forced to sit out the 2011 opener after being arrested the day after the team’s spring game for breaking into someone else’s apartment and passing out due to intoxication. He came back that season to eventually become a major contributor, including earning the Rose Bowl Defensive Player of the Game award in the team’s win over Wisconsin (five tackles, 2.5 for loss, 1.5 sacks, interception).

htownfan32
02-18-2013, 06:07 PM
I like Alonso too and think he would upgrade the ILB spot a lot. But, the big question is, would the Texans take him with his prior arrest record (2 yrs ago)? Here's something I found on the NFL.com Combine site:

I think he's been clean for a while, and if the Texans FO feel like he's changed his mindset and is taking his game seriously now... Yes. He could be a huge steal and we can't keep up this policy of drafting saints lol. I think the fact that he's been trouble free for a while now indicates that he's gotten his head in the right place

Thanks for waiting up. Round 4-7 will be up tomorrow!

badboy
02-18-2013, 06:13 PM
Personally, I think Alonzo has matured and proved it. I have mocked him but think I can get comparable value in A J Klein in 4th. Issue with mock is I want a NT and those I think will contribute will be gone 2nd round and no later than 3rd. I am not a Long fan even if he translates to OG where he should play in NFL. He will be 26 December and what you are saying his family is good so he should be. If you are going for a back up OT, go with a cheap FA. If you want to use at OG, why not draft Alvin Bailey a much better player who has flipped during games to both sides? He has play a bit more also.

WR: I like your guy but would rather trade down than up and get a comparable player in second + another pick.

beerlover
02-18-2013, 07:56 PM
You cannot trade compensatory picks.

I realize he edited such but regardless with his 1-3 rd. selections he doesn't need to they are already in place.

beerlover
02-18-2013, 08:01 PM
I'm going to use our position in the draft plus a third round compensatory for Mario and a 6th for Dreesen. I don't know how that's going to work out in actuality but whatever. Here's for the purpose of just throwing discussion material out there. Hit me with all the feedback and comments you got, TT.
Will post rounds 1-3 right now... if you come in and see only one or two picks, I'm working on it :)


1st Round: Keenan Allen WR 6'3 210 Cal
http://calibermag.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Jalil+Brown+Keenan+Allen+Colorado+v+California+c-0xgw9Q9dUl1.jpeg

Yes, I understand that Keenan Allen should* be gone by the time we pick. The scenario I see is that a knee injury will knock him down and post-combine, guys like Cordarelle Patterson, Terrance Williams et. al will move up the boards because of their size/speed combo. I'm going with that Allen is fast but not elite fast. However, he has excellent timing, athleticism combined with 6'3 210 - sounds like a possible heir to Andre to me.


2nd Round: Kyle Long OL 6'6 304 Oregon
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/1228/com_121228_NCF_Vblog_Miller_KyleLong_121228/com_121228_NCF_Vblog_Miller_KyleLong_121228.jpg

I'm gambling here. Kyle Long only has 4 career starts at the FCS level and that is troubling. However, I don't see this pick not panning out. Kyle Long is athletic and has all the pedigree to be a great o-lineman in the NFL with good coaching. He'll have great teammates to look up to (Duane Brown) and can develop into a quality starter given a season or two. Would also be ironic to see him line up against his brother Chris.

3rd Round: Kiko Alonso, ILB, 6'3 242 Oregon
http://binaryapi.ap.org/a414ef2c119846ebb297bdee23dc46a3/512x.jpg

Yeah, I'm drafting lots of Ducks. This guy is versatile. He could even play outside, that's how athletic he is. At the third round you're looking at guys who could develop into quality starters, and I think Alonso could be a total steal. He and Cushing would be a terror together. Alonso plays to the whistle and with an aggression that would compliment Cushing's perfectly.

3rd Round: DJ Swearinger, FS, 5'11 210 South Carolina
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/001/985/045/hi-res-155987431_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75

Swearinger is versatile and a leader on his S Car defense. He's played some CB and is proficient in coverage as well as being a hitter. He's not tall but he makes up for it in the aggression of his play. He needs to work on not holding, however, and could be a little more fluid.

I personally love it, FWIW. Two Ducks. I think Chip Kelly may have something to say about that.:wesmantexanfan:

Wolf6151
02-18-2013, 09:56 PM
It's not my optimal draft, but you've got some good players there. I think Long and Alonso are each picked 1 round early. Now get back to studying your Accounting, there's plenty of time after school for football. Good Luck.

The more I think about it, Long is about 1 round early but Alonso in the late 3rd is about right.

Corrosion
02-18-2013, 10:15 PM
It's not my optimal draft,.

Same here - I like the positions just not the players so much.

Allen I was high on early in the year , not so much now. I'd take Rogers in the second instead. He has the best tools of all the WR's in this draft , pot or not. Thats not to say I dont believe Allen wont be a solid player - Just that I wouldnt take him that high.

Long - I love the guy in the long term .... but not so much in the short term. 3rd rounder (I know I had him mocked in the second earlier).

Kiko Alonso .... Im meh on. I much prefer AJ Klien of Iowa St. Dude can cover and would be perfect paired with Cushing.

steelbtexan
02-18-2013, 10:42 PM
Same here - I like the positions just not the players so much.

Allen I was high on early in the year , not so much now. I'd take Rogers in the second instead. He has the best tools of all the WR's in this draft , pot or not. Thats not to say I dont believe Allen wont be a solid player - Just that I wouldnt take him that high.

Long - I love the guy in the long term .... but not so much in the short term. 3rd rounder (I know I had him mocked in the second earlier).

Kiko Alonso .... Im meh on. I much prefer AJ Klien of Iowa St. Dude can cover and would be perfect paired with Cushing.

Rodgers may not be there low in the 2nd, would you be willing to give up a 3-4th to pick him?

Short/Rodgers/Klien gives you 3 quality starters, that's about all you can ask for out of a Rick draft.

S is deep enough that you can find an upgrade over Demps/Keo in the later rds. Or find a FA on the cheap. The only thing that would be missing would be OL depth and hopefully Newton/Jones/Brooks will show improvement in their 2nd yr on the field.

beerlover
02-18-2013, 11:52 PM
Same here - I like the positions just not the players so much.

Allen I was high on early in the year , not so much now. I'd take Rogers in the second instead. He has the best tools of all the WR's in this draft , pot or not. Thats not to say I dont believe Allen wont be a solid player - Just that I wouldnt take him that high.

Long - I love the guy in the long term .... but not so much in the short term. 3rd rounder (I know I had him mocked in the second earlier).

Kiko Alonso .... Im meh on. I much prefer AJ Klien of Iowa St. Dude can cover and would be perfect paired with Cushing.

Funny, that is exactly why Allen could still be on the board. Unfinished product with exceptionally high ceiling.

Texans could cut Wade, a pro bowler, draft Long & actually improve.

Kiko is a four down LB, rare in a 3-4.

Completely sick haul, would not complain.

SW H-TOWN
02-19-2013, 01:51 AM
I have to respectfully disagree with one thing. No NT in the first 3 rounds. Cody is a FA, just had back surgery, and needed to be upgraded before that. Another thing is that I would go with DeAndre Hopkins over Keenan Allen. I'm probably in the minority but I think that Hopkins will be a better pro. He is an exceptional route runner and is more of a deep threat than Allen. It is also said that he has the best intangibles of any WR in this draft class. WR is very hard to predict but if I had to bet on one WR who could step in and produce from day one it would be Hopkins. I like the ILB and S picks a lot. I think Swearinger AKA Jungle Boi would be a hell of a steal at the end of the 3rd.

SW H-TOWN
02-19-2013, 02:04 AM
I have to respectfully disagree with one thing. No NT in the first 3 rounds. Cody is a FA, just had back surgery, and needed to be upgraded before that. Another thing is that I would go with DeAndre Hopkins over Keenan Allen. I'm probably in the minority but I think that Hopkins will be a better pro. He is an exceptional route runner and is more of a deep threat than Allen. It is also said that he has the best intangibles of any WR in this draft class. WR is very hard to predict but if I had to bet on one WR who could step in and produce from day one it would be Hopkins. I like the ILB and S picks a lot. I think Swearinger AKA Jungle Boi would be a hell of a steal at the end of the 3rd.

Corrosion
02-19-2013, 03:33 AM
Funny, that is exactly why Allen could still be on the board. Unfinished product with exceptionally high ceiling.

Texans could cut Wade, a pro bowler, draft Long & actually improve.

Kiko is a four down LB, rare in a 3-4.

Completely sick haul, would not complain.

This is where we differ on Allen - I think he has reached his peak , you see him as unfinished. Whoever is right on this evaluation is the big winner ... one way or another.


Long .... You know I like ... I just dont think he's ready to contribute tomorrow morning when this team needs him. 18months , two years down the road , yeah , I love his upside.


Kiko .... meh. We'll just have to agree to disagree on his evaluation. I think he's a bust in the NFL.

leebigeztx
02-19-2013, 03:54 AM
This is where we differ on Allen - I think he has reached his peak , you see him as unfinished. Whoever is right on this evaluation is the big winner ... one way or another.


Long .... You know I like ... I just dont think he's ready to contribute tomorrow morning when this team needs him. 18months , two years down the road , yeah , I love his upside.


Kiko .... meh. We'll just have to agree to disagree on his evaluation. I think he's a bust in the NFL.

Just because Long isn't ready to contribute right now shouldn't deter you from drafting him. You have to always look and think long term. If you think a guy can be a great player 2 yrs down the line, you draft him. If you don't,someone else will and your team will have to compete against that guy.

mussop
02-19-2013, 06:27 AM
Like all the players but hate that we dont get a DT. I really like kiko. High football IQ, good in coverage and can really lay the wood. Perfect fit next to Cushing IMO. I would like it a lot more if we went with Short in the first and draf a couple of WR's later rounds like Hamilton and Kaufman. However I would be very happy with this haul.

Corrosion
02-19-2013, 10:00 AM
Just because Long isn't ready to contribute right now shouldn't deter you from drafting him. You have to always look and think long term. If you think a guy can be a great player 2 yrs down the line, you draft him. If you don't,someone else will and your team will have to compete against that guy.

Under normal circumstances , I'd agree with you on this , and remember in my first mock I had Long in the second round.

Things are a bit different this offseason at least in my opinion , the team is very close to a superbowl and I think the window of opportunity is short.

The players drafted in the first half of this draft need to step in and contribute early and often while shoring up weaknesses at those positions.


I dont think Long is ready to contribute as a rookie making a position change at the highest level of play.

I only see Schaub here one or two more years .... there is no telling who replaces him. For Schaub to be successful .... He has to have real good protection.

Now ... if Schaubs eventual replacement is a top 3rd of the NFL type that window of opportunity grows wider because this team is pretty young at its core. But its hard to know who your replacement is that far out. I just think next season is an all or nothing proposition and we cant afford a project player that high .... despite having all the tools and athleticism Long is a project in the NFL.


Damn if Schaub doesnt limit us on the field , now he's limiting us in the draft .... (thats suppose to be semi sarcastic)

beerlover
02-19-2013, 10:19 AM
This is where we differ on Allen - I think he has reached his peak , you see him as unfinished. Whoever is right on this evaluation is the big winner ... one way or another.


Long .... You know I like ... I just dont think he's ready to contribute tomorrow morning when this team needs him. 18months , two years down the road , yeah , I love his upside.


Kiko .... meh. We'll just have to agree to disagree on his evaluation. I think he's a bust in the NFL.

Allen hasn't played since October because of a sprain to his posterior cruciate ligament that didn't require surgery. He will be medically checked, poked & prodded. He played only 9 games his Junior season & you think he has reached his peak, on what basis? Remember Marvin Jones? Keenan developed along side him as a freshmen & sophomore almost doubling production one year to next. Keenan was on pace to destroy those numbers his Junior season when injured. Allen has an NFL body teams covet, lean cut & athletic for position, with plus YAC which would make sense for Texans similar to how they use Andre now so he is a perfect fit for Kubiak. Andre could focus more on taking the cover off defenses & drawing defenders out of the box while Allen works underneath.

Long would add much needed depth on the offensive line. His contract could offset cutting a veteran player so he could be next man up or even start. He is an inside mauler type Texans/Schaub would really love to have. Like his family he was a DE who converted late. He dwarfs those two by the way, his natural position is LG where he started & dominated for Oregon.

Alonzo has some Clay Matthews in him, very instinctive. He could easily play OLB as well thus adding another dimension & salary cap savings. He is a three down LB with special teams value. Expect solid combine numbers from him in his drills, not sure about forty or bench, but looks to have excellent footwork.

htownfan32
02-19-2013, 01:48 PM
Thanks for all the feedback, guys. It's not over yet. As for the lively debate surrounding Keenan Allen - I looked at DeAndre Hopkins closely, but he seems to have a slight issue with hands. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who sees it, but he seems a little prone to bobble. Also, 6'1 and polished route runner equates to a great, great number 2 wide receiver... but not a potential #1 franchise wideout.

Rogers... Rogers intrigues me, but character flags will probably keep the Texans from drafting him. I don't think the FO will pick anyone who transferred out of their school after the things that happened. I don't think he's a troublemaker but our FO stays away from that stuff.

Anyway, guys, mostly done studying, just took a practice exam and killed it, so I'll be adding the last picks to the draft now :)

htownfan32
02-19-2013, 02:02 PM
Also, the reason I didn't include a DT in this draft is because I'm not a very good evaluator of DTs :P However, I think what would happen is that my second round pick - Long - would not be chosen at all, and we go with a FA lineman to shore up and allow our current OL to gel.

So I present my ALTERNATIVE 2nd ROUND PICK:
Brandon Williams, DT 6'2 341 Missouri Southern State
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/935/802/hi-res-6961464_display_image.jpg?1359334977

Brandon Williams is a big guy, and he's a run stuffer. It's not skill that pushes him down but rather an injury history, even though he doesn't play Div I football. This guy is talented, and many of y'all who watched the senior bowl saw that. He had an impressive week of practice and played at the level of the talent around him. Don't be scared by the Div II tag - he's good.

htownfan32
02-19-2013, 02:42 PM
4th Round: Jelani Jenkins, OLB, 6'0 237 Florida
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/files/2010/10/os-florida-msu-jelani-jenkins.jpg

Jelani Jenkins is going to be pushed down by a mediocre 2012 and injury concern. There are problems with him, but this is the fourth round and expecting first round talent is setting yourself up for disappointment. However, Jenkins can develop into excellent depth and a rotational pass rusher. He can also be put into coverage, which is something this linebacking corps outside of Cushing failed to impress in 2012. However, he needs to work on overpursuit and keeping the ball in sight, as well as dealing with inconsistent play. An offseason of conditioning could do him well and with some good LB coaching he'll evolve into a quality depth and rotational player.

5th Round: Kenjon Barner, RB, 5'9 188 Oregon
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/photo/2012/11/05/0ap1000000090856.jpg

I promise I'm not an Oregon fan in disguise. This team needs deadly speed, and Kenjon Barner promises exactly that. He's not the physical runner that Ben Tate is nor the fluid patient back that Arian is. He's fast, and he will add a dimension of speed to this team that we sorely lack. Setting him up on screens and halfback passes makes him a threat to take it home every time. He's not a starting back, but a situational player that can do exactly what he's supposed to - change a situation into a game-winning one for our team.

6th Round: Denard Robinson, WR, 5'11 196 Michigan
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/071/194/hi-res-6897308_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75

I have my doubts that he'll be available this late, but CBS has him mocked late and if available, steal. I'm not sold on Keyshawn Martin for anything just yet, and I think we can use someone to push him for 3rd WR/slot receiver position. So here is Denard Robinson. The nerve damage might push him down this far, but if the medical staff evaluates him as capable of the WR position (and occasional trick play) then I say pull the trigger. It never hurts to add athletic talent to the offensive side of the ball, and in an offense that seems sluggish, players like Robinson might be exactly what they need. Also, if Kubes grows a pair, we could try some interesting trick plays with Robinson taking snaps.


Before I make the next pick, I'm going to elaborate on two scenarios. One is that James Casey leaves, the other is that he stays. The first pick is w/out Casey, the second is with.



6th Round: Jake Stoneburner, TE, 6'5 245 Ohio State
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/DeVier+Posey+Jake+Stoneburner+Marshall+v+Ohio+j6Qg kXdxXiel.jpg

Look who it is! Just kidding, I'm not talking about Posey so much as I'm talking about the guy next to him. Stoneburner is a h-back style player that can fill the shoes that James Casey leaves on this team. A solid receiver with a frame and build more suited to making him a receiving tight end than a blocker.

Alternative 6th Round: Michael Williams, TE, 6'6 269 Alabama
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Michael+Williams+Michigan+v+Alabama+a47d1f1LCyBl.j pg

Now, if Casey does choose to stay, we need a blocking TE. OD is not that and Garrett Graham as flashed good things but I'm not entirely sold on him. Williams has been asked to stay home and block and has been a integral part of the Alabama O-line that's been so highly touted by scouts. We could definitely use him with our O-line to try and revitalize a running game that ended up stalling our entire offense at critical junctions of 2012.

htownfan32
02-19-2013, 02:42 PM
7th Round: Michael Mauti, ILB, 6'2 235 Penn State
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mee7ynE3C71qf2huro1_1280.jpg
Depth never ever hurts, especially when depth can end up being rotational quality steals. Especially in the 7th round. Since it's such a late pick, the FO gambles and takes Mauti, who has the talent to be more than his round but injury concerns, namely ACL tears for both right and left knees, will plunge his stock. He compares to Sean Lee, but his durability is a concern. However, with a 7th round pick you can afford to gamble and if Mauti doesn't pan out, it's not a big deal. If he does, you look like a genius for having picked him. He's a talented, aware LB that plays not on pure athletic strength but with instinct.


Okay, guys. Comments, questions? :) I'm enjoying the lively debate.

infantrycak
02-20-2013, 01:02 AM
Also, 6'1 and polished route runner equates to a great, great number 2 wide receiver... but not a potential #1 franchise wideout.

Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward and Marvin Harrison would beg to differ with you just off the top of my head. If Jerry Rice was any bigger it was only by an inch. You might also find the SB champs have a pair of 6'1" WR's.

htownfan32
02-20-2013, 10:47 AM
Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward and Marvin Harrison would beg to differ with you just off the top of my head. If Jerry Rice was any bigger it was only by an inch. You might also find the SB champs have a pair of 6'1" WR's.

I go with the assumption that all official heights are blown up at least an inch, until the combine actually makes it out to what it is.

I think Posey already fits that body mold you're talking about. I don't think there's a problem with having a 6'1 number one... but there has to be a big physical guy on the roster too. Someone who can go up there and outmuscle the defensive back for the ball. We saw that a lot with Andre fighting for balls that Schaub threw into tight windows or underthrew.

I believe that the team needs a big guy as a number one. I think that's a better statement than what I said earlier, because your examples go to show that there are smaller #1s too. I'm not saying Calvin Johnson big (because that's rare) but I'm looking for someone in the mold of Andre. I'm also not saying Andre - because, again, that's rare - but someone who can become like him. If Andre was 3 years younger I'd be going with Hopkins instead of Allen.

Now... if this team went with Hopkins this year (and I think Hopkins' stock will rise. He might be second off the board, with Cordarelle Patterson being first, and won't be available when we pick) and Tajh Boyd next year... that's a different story.

Insideop
02-20-2013, 12:13 PM
OK. So let me wrap my head around all this.

1st rd: Keenan Allen, WR

2nd rd: Kyle Long, OL, or alternate pick: Brandon Williams, DT

3rd rd: Kiko Alonso, ILB

3rd rd: DJ Swearinger, FS (comp pick)

4th rd: Jelani Jenkins, OLB

5th rd: Kenjon Barner, RB

6th rd: Denard Robinson, WR

6th rd: Jake Stoneburner, TE (Casey let go), alternative pick: Michael Williams, TE (Casey stays) (comp pick)

7th rd: Michael Mauti, ILB

I think that's everything. Now on to the evaluation!

For me, I would go with B. Williams in the 2nd because I think it is a bigger need for the Texans, and I think Williams will give you better value in the 2nd. Just hope he's there when the Texans pick. In the 6th, I hope they keep Casey and go with M. Williams at TE. I really feel he will turn out to be a better receiving TE than most think and could turn into a real "red zone" threat.

I like Allen in the 1st and believe he may be there for the Texans when they pick. I think this would be a solid pick and would help the team immediately. Some on here would rather have Hopkins or Patton and those would be good too if that's who the Texans want. Alonso in the 3rd would be a good pick at a position of need. Just don't know if the Texans will take him because of his prior off the field issues (DUI and B&E) 2 years ago. Swearinger, I've heard good things about and he could be a good addition to the safeties as well as ST.

Jenkins in the 4th and Barner in the 5th, I don't know anything about, but I'm not sure the Texans will be looking at RB. I guess it depends on what happens with Tate and if they resign Forsett cheap. Robinson in the 6th, I don't think I like. He's a converted QB with good speed and change of direction, but his hands are a ???. May be a better RB prospect with PR/KR abilities. Not sure the Texans will even look at him as a WR. Mauti in the 7th, heck yeah! He only falls because of injury history. Could be a steal if he can stay healthy. It's worth the risk with a 7th.

If the draft fell this way with B. Williams in the 2nd and M. Williams in the 6th, I'd be ecstatic!

Great job!

htownfan32
02-20-2013, 03:28 PM
OK. So let me wrap my head around all this.

1st rd: Keenan Allen, WR

2nd rd: Kyle Long, OL, or alternate pick: Brandon Williams, DT

3rd rd: Kiko Alonso, ILB

3rd rd: DJ Swearinger, FS (comp pick)

4th rd: Jelani Jenkins, OLB

5th rd: Kenjon Barner, RB

6th rd: Denard Robinson, WR

6th rd: Jake Stoneburner, TE (Casey let go), alternative pick: Michael Williams, TE (Casey stays) (comp pick)

7th rd: Michael Mauti, ILB

I think that's everything. Now on to the evaluation!

For me, I would go with B. Williams in the 2nd because I think it is a bigger need for the Texans, and I think Williams will give you better value in the 2nd. Just hope he's there when the Texans pick. In the 6th, I hope they keep Casey and go with M. Williams at TE. I really feel he will turn out to be a better receiving TE than most think and could turn into a real "red zone" threat.

I like Allen in the 1st and believe he may be there for the Texans when they pick. I think this would be a solid pick and would help the team immediately. Some on here would rather have Hopkins or Patton and those would be good too if that's who the Texans want. Alonso in the 3rd would be a good pick at a position of need. Just don't know if the Texans will take him because of his prior off the field issues (DUI and B&E) 2 years ago. Swearinger, I've heard good things about and he could be a good addition to the safeties as well as ST.

Jenkins in the 4th and Barner in the 5th, I don't know anything about, but I'm not sure the Texans will be looking at RB. I guess it depends on what happens with Tate and if they resign Forsett cheap. Robinson in the 6th, I don't think I like. He's a converted QB with good speed and change of direction, but his hands are a ???. May be a better RB prospect with PR/KR abilities. Not sure the Texans will even look at him as a WR. Mauti in the 7th, heck yeah! He only falls because of injury history. Could be a steal if he can stay healthy. It's worth the risk with a 7th.

If the draft fell this way with B. Williams in the 2nd and M. Williams in the 6th, I'd be ecstatic!

Great job!

Thanks!

I think, as for the bolded above, that's the best scenario. Michael Williams is going to be a good RZ threat and will definitely help us where we need it - scoring 6 instead of kicking the 3s. Stoneburner would be a good Casey replacement but if Casey stays and Williams comes on, we'd have threats all over the field. I'm imagining a 3 TE set with OD, Graham, and Williams with Andre as wideout and Foster in the backfield. That's a deadly red-zone package, if Schaub can deliver the goods.

As for the second bolded, yes - Mauti is going to be an absolute steal if he stays healthy. I really really hope the FO lands him.

badboy
02-21-2013, 10:49 AM
You mentioned Brandon W. injury history lowering his draft status. He missed 2009 due to injury but to my knowledge has no significant injury since.

SW H-TOWN
02-22-2013, 01:32 PM
Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward and Marvin Harrison would beg to differ with you just off the top of my head. If Jerry Rice was any bigger it was only by an inch. You might also find the SB champs have a pair of 6'1" WR's.

Hopkins weighed in at 6'1 214 and Allen at 6'2 206. Hopkins looks pretty solid.

76Texan
02-22-2013, 01:37 PM
Hopkins weighed in at 6'1 214 and Allen at 6'2 206. Hopkins looks pretty solid.

Yeah, but Hopkins had gained some weight. Let's see how fast and quick he is at that weight. I think I like him a little better than Hamilton, but I'm a little iffy drafting him in the first.

But then again, I like him better than Kendall Wright and AJ Jenkins who were both first rounders last year.

I think the run on receivers last year could help us this year.